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ZBA Hearing - May 14, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 14, 20254h 1m

Are there any other requests for continuances?

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for continuances?

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.

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This is Jason Hand.

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I will be your callers for the session.

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I don't see any hands raised right now.

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Thank you.

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So here's our add-on list.

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Number one, MI 2024-002-120-963 North Lawrence Street.

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This case has been rescheduled to Wednesday, May 21st at 2 p.m.

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Number two, MI 2024-006-733-4045-61 Main Street.

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This case has been continued until Wednesday, May 21st at 2 p.m.

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number three

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mi 2025 000456 3715 to 33 north 19th street i vote yes revised plans four pages

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stamp by zba on may 14th 2025. michael johnson my vote is yes

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with proviso

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with a

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revised

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proviso michael

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revised plans four pages stamped by gba

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may 14th 2025

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yes with proviso

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thank you sir

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my vote is yes with proviso

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my vote is yes with proviso

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my vote is yes with proviso

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Ishmael Shahidi my vote is yes with proviso

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number four

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MI 2025

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25, 000, 457, 1434 to 36 Federal Street. This case has been continued to Wednesday, May 21st, at 2 p.m.

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next next case number five mi 2024 839 mi 2024 005 357 839 airedale road the of this case

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I vote yes with Proviso.

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Revised plans, one page, stamped by CBA on May 14, 2025.

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Two accessory off-street parking spaces approved.

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Updated earth moving plan must be provided to L&I prior to permit.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Taya Nguyen, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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And number six, MI 2024, 004-320-6560 North Bouvier Street.

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The vote in this matter has been rescheduled to Wednesday, May 21st at 2 p.m.

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I'm going to start with case number 14.

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number 14 mi 2025 001 343 249 south warnock street

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um samuel trombley is the listed owner and the applicant

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Do we see Mr. Trombley?

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I see him now.

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I will promote him to panelists at once, Mr. Chair.

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Mr. Trombley, please accept the invitation to become a panelist.

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All right, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Trombley?

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You should be coming back in now, sir.

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Sure.

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yes i'm here sorry about that what's up could you please state your name and spell for the

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stenographer samuel trombley s-a-m-u-e-l-t-r-o-m-e-l-e-y you swear or firm to tell

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the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes okay for this is for the erection of an

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addition at the rear of an existing attached structure and roof deck access from the third

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floor for no change of use from the single family household living. Where a rear wall does not meet

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a rear yard minimum depth requirement, a vertical extension of that wall is an increase of the

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specific nonconformity and is not permitted. The required rear yard depth in the RSA 5 zoning

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district is 7 feet, whereas this is 6 feet 4 inches, whereas the horizontal extension

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of a sidewall into a rear yard is permitted, provided an extension complies with an applicable

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provided an extension complies with an applicable rear setback and open space requirement the rear

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rear setback and open space.

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yard's depth is seven foot and six foot four inches existing our our vice chair has a few

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questions for you sir good afternoon um sir have you emailed in all the required documents and

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exhibits as needed and to perceive this case five days in advance of this hearing yes i have

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Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen and start the presentation.

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Can you say that again? Sorry.

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You can proceed and share your screen and you can start your presentation.

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Yes. Sorry, I'm at work, so joining from my phone, but my fiance is also online and should be able to share the materials.

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Do we have her name so we can promote her to a panelist?

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Anthony Palmer.

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Ms. Palmer, can you please raise your hand so we can promote you?

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Okay, they should be coming in as a panel. Thank you, Mr. Han.

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Hi, everyone. Hi. So, Anthony, my understanding is Samuel will do the presentation and you'll

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just share the screen, okay? Correct. So, could you start sharing the screen? Sure.

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Okay, Mr. Trombley, could you start your presentation?

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Yeah, so go to the next slide.

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uh this just shows the location of the home um it is on ornock between spruce and irving okay next

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this is an overview of the current zoning um it's rsa5 go ahead

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so want to explain this yeah so this is the um

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the explanation of what it looks like currently so the the gray areas are um kind of the existing

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structure so you can see there's a an easement the white part on the side there yeah um and that

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is essentially like a small outdoor alleyway that goes back to the kind of back courtyard

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Aaron. Okay. Uh, what we're proposing to do is expand over into that little alleyway up against

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the neighbor's house and then go up from there. So right now there's, um, basically nothing above

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the kitchen on the first floor until you get to a third, third floor roof deck. So the proposal

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would be to add a second floor on top of the kitchen and then take up that small alleyway

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there. Why don't you show us drawings for that? Yep. So this gives a better idea of the two

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variances that we'll need. So one variance to go over to the neighbor's house and then the other

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variances to go up. Um, we need two variances because, uh, I guess both are, um, too close

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to that, that back easement as you read. Okay. You can skip that. That's just, uh,

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that's your mailing. So, thank you. Uh, this is kind of, yep. So this is basically, uh,

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a view of the front and then the back of it, of the house. So the front from Warnock Street,

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there'll be no change. The back, this is kind of a, again, the gray view is what's proposed to be

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added. So right now that white box on the first floor would be the kitchen. So we would expand

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the kitchen over against the neighbor's house and then fill in the second floor, which right now is

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empty and then replace the roof deck on the third floor which is existing um but it would

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you know also fill that uh that gray hatched area

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do you have photos what the rear looks like now yep so this is what it looks like now okay um

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the picture on the left is of that uh small alleyway next to the kitchen so those

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small windows that would go into the kitchen and then you can see the roof deck is is basically on

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stilts uh above the kitchen and then there's no second floor there you're saying right that's right

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above the kitchen and then there's no second floor there you're saying right that's right yeah and

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you can see on the right hand side picture the roof of the kitchen kind of slopes up so there's

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a you know there's a gap underneath that roof deck in the kitchen so we would basically be filling in

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that that empty space um and then expanding over into the alley to go up against the neighbor's

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house the middle picture is from the third floor roof deck you can see it's

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in we don't use it currently it's in pretty bad shape so it needs to be

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replaced you know the next slide this is just another view of you know basically

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taking that back right picture and then showing you in blue where we would be

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filling in. This is showing our house compared to some of the neighbor's houses. So if you look at

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the left picture, 249, which would be our house, is the one with the green shutters. The one with

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the red shutters is 251. That's our neighbor's house. And they've done essentially the same

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renovations that we're proposing. And you can see that in kind of that middle picture.

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So they'd be, they fill in the, you know, the gap, the full footprint, and then they have the

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roof deck on the third floor. So we'd be proposing, you know, doing something similar.

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This is just showing 247. So that's the neighbor on the other side. They had to go for a similar

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variants uh to add to their third floor um so this is basically just showing where that would be

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um relative to our house um i think you can skip that

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so this is the rco right that's right yeah we don't have a copy of this do we

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no i don't yeah this is the the rco okay so do me a favor i want you to uh email this to as soon

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as you can and when we're done okay okay so it was seven non-opposed one abstained am i correct

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uh yeah and the the one who abstained is my fiance because he uh recused himself okay all right and

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let me ask you neighbors on both sides are in favor of this yep both uh both of them attended

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the rco meeting and were supportive like i said the one neighbor has done a similar renovation and

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um you know thinks it would be a good idea they used to actually own the house before me um and

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so they you know it's it's kind of logical that someone would do it they just never got around to

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doing it okay mr chair yes this is matthew webster board council we do have a copy of that okay thank

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Thank you. Anything else you have, sir?

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No. All right. That's it.

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Questions from the board?

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Yes. So what size room is this going to be on the second floor? And what's it going to be used for?

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so you're gonna yeah so it would be a sorry what i'm seeing is you're gonna extend the kitchen

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just a tad it looks like but then yeah over top there'll be this room and what's that going to

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be used for that would be a a bedroom and a bathroom okay so what how many square feet are

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we talking about here uh it's about 500 square feet so right now the house is a thousand square

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feet and we'd be moving it to 1500. Okay. And you're going to put a bedroom and a bathroom

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in that space? Yeah, that's right. So on the first floor, it would be just an expansion of the

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kitchen. So, you know, the same kitchen we have just a bit more space down there. And then the

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second floor would be a bedroom and a bathroom okay and then what the the deck

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that is there now what room is that attached to so the the third floor is

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all just kind of open it's just one big room and there are kind of glass doors

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off the back that open onto that deck and you're gonna redo the deck as part of

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yeah we would replace the deck yes okay all right thank you questions from our attorney who i'm

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sorry no no questions sir questions or comments from the virtual audience or this present audience

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here yeah there are no hands raised at this time planning commission amy board with the planning

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Planning Commission. Amy Wood with the Planning Commission, AYBOID. Do you swear or affirm that tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Please proceed. The comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning at this location from the existing RSA 5 residential single family. The proposed variances are diminished and will have minimal impacts on adjoining properties. The Planning Commission recommends that the board grant the requested variances for rear yard depth and open space.

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commission a y b o y d

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Thank you. MI 2025-001-343-249-South Warnock Street, I vote yes.

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What's up, Michael Johns? My vote is yes.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Tanetta Graham, my vote is yes.

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Tywin, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes.

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Thank you, Cheryl. You have your votes.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Number one, MI 2024-005-747-3513 North 23rd Street. This is a resumptive hearing. Alan

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knockamson could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer yes uh alan knockamson

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a-l-a-n last name knockamson n-o-c-h-u-m-s-o-n do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the

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whole truth and nothing but the truth i do knock us and this is a resumptive hearing

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um the way we'd like to schedule this is we'd have updates from you questions from the board

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public testimony and then the planning commission so could you um please give us an update as to

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what's happened since the last election and where you stand now yes uh let me just share my screen

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if i may yeah sure one second let me get to the right screen

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just as a reminder uh we are originally seeking uh 12 uh unit uh family household living at this

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property um we did get community support at that time um and you know just looking at the situation

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we thought it made more sense to have nine units with no basement living okay so what we did was

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we sought authorization from the zba to amend our zoning appeal to extend the building structure a

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little further out to give more room for some of the units and we have an updated refusal because

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of that um so if you look at my screen here we have the amended refusal which is dated

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uh february 18th of 2025 which shows nine house family household living we did add a refusal

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because of that um originally we did not have an occupied area refusal now we do of is de minimis

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in nature um provided more living for the the residents um everyone has access to uh the backyard

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as well um because of the garbage that remains the same but there's no living at all in the basement

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now um and you know we met with the community again and they're in support i will say this that

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we asked them many many times to please provide a letter confirming that support we have not

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received it i don't know if you have um but you know as an officer to court i will tell you that

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we had the same result at the community meeting we all need to see you know that

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hold on a second trying to get rid of that stop sharing um but like you know so that's that's

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where we are so they were in support of 12 units they're in support of nine units i think this is

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a better project because of the input of the zba where we now have no basement living which i think

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is appropriate i think nine units is more appropriate and it forced us to actually expand

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the size of the units, which makes it a more viable project for everyone involved.

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And now on those nine units are in the amended refusal.

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That is right.

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So if the board feels so inclined to grant this appeal, I would say grant it with the

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proviso with the date of the refusal.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Questions from the board?

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Questions from our attorney?

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No, sir.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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Yes, sir. I have a hand up from Charles Richardson. I will promote them, and they should be back in shortly.

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I'm in.

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Hi, Mr. Richardson. Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Thank you, sir. Charles Richardson, R-I-C-H-A-R-D-S-O-N, Office of Councilwoman Cindy Bass, room 508 City Hall.

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Thank you, sir. Charles Richardson, R-I-C-H-A-R-D-S-O-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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