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ZBA Hearing - August 6, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 6, 20255h 46m

that's okay and that's for one more thing if i can say sure the um the council person mr phillips

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the first meeting that we spoke about the very first one that you had there

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He put it

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He put it on record

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As saying that he was opposed

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To the group house

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And that's very important

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I mean try to follow all of your procedures

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The rules and regulations

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That you have in place

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So that you know

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Nothing gets personal

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This is business

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And our lives

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Is our business

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So it's not like

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like change we're talking about we're talking about our lives that we how we live in our

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neighborhood okay it's a very small space and just and what's spoken about was the um the backyard

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from what i understand it's supposed to be a picture from your regulations it's supposed

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from your regulations it's supposed to be a picture of the yard of the front and the back

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to be a picture of the yard of the front and the back

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in that record that it was presented and if it wasn't presented i can imagine why

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because i live next door to the property you know we keep our property up the property

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is not next door is not kept now i'm speaking about not what i heard you know this is what i do

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and we clean our block

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I was sweeping

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the neighbor's porch

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on 29

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and she scolded me for sweeping her porch

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so I haven't been back

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over there since

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and she was right

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I was invading her

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personal property

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but the property

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had been swept

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because the wind blows the trash

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was on her porch over to mine.

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So

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if you can visualize

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this, the situation that we

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are in,

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we want to be considered.

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That's all. We understand what you said, and we

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appreciate you spending time here, and we

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appreciate your testimony. Is there anyone

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else in the group there want to testify?

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Thank you, sir.

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Ma'am?

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good afternoon good afternoon hi could you get close to the mic for us pull the mic right

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towards you it'll come right to you yes right could you state your name and spell for the

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stenographer michelle right eel right m-i-c-h-e-l-e last name e-l right do you swear or affirm to tell

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the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth no you should thank you very much um and

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obviously you're a neighbor i am the twin a butter right next door right at 53 31 right

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so their house is the mirror image of our house right and um i've listened to what has been said

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and I'm going to try to be brief

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because I have a bunch of pictures

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and everything.

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Plus, we have a long statement you made.

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Yes.

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And all the board members here

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have the copy of what you sent.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So I just wanted to say that

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the property front, back, and all of that,

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we took pictures of that.

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We sent them in

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and we did the side-by-side

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and we looked at your instructions

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where you asked for these photos to be given

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and we took a picture of the whole block.

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We wanted you to know that nobody on the block

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knew we were taking those pictures.

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Everything was in order.

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The pavement swept.

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The weeds pulled.

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All of those things.

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And we didn't take a...

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side against

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53-29.

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that had a personal effect on how you have to know how to handle emergencies and emergency plan

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was the picture all the way from 1999, where between 2 a.m. and 5 a.m., there was a house fire

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at 5329. And to this day, no one from 5329 came to our house right next door

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to tell us that the house was on fire.

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I had four children.

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One of them, he was 17, he saw something going on

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and he heard the footsteps.

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Because, see, when you're that close, you don't have privacy.

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All you have is a firewall.

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The firewall did its job with the fire.

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However, we had extensive smoke damage.

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Which, in this day and age, people tell you that's worse than the flame.

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right so you have to have emergency plans and when somebody asks you right on off the cuff like that

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you should be able to say something about first aid fire prevention and now people are learning

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about AED and when people have airwaves block compressions all of those things none of that

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came out, she just said, I'll go over myself.

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So I thought that in the business world,

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she wasn't ready. She wasn't ready.

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And other things have occurred since then,

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even, and I do want to mention, where we had

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a sign posted

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supposedly from the zoning board with a

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date. Right. And nobody at the zoning board knew about it. And no one at the council office knew

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it. So we say that that's not business at all. Okay. And how can you take care of human beings

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without a business sense? And again, as we've been here, this is our fourth time. Right. And time

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Time is very important.

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We don't want to get into all the things that you lose when you misuse time.

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But I appreciate your patience.

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Thank you very much for your time, and we appreciate it.

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Is there anyone else in that group there who wants to testify?

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How many people online do we have?

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Do we know how many hands we have up there?

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good afternoon sir

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good afternoon hi could you please state your name and spell for the stenography sure

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my name is abraham eel a-b-r-a-h-a-m last name is eel e-l do you swear or affirm to tell the

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truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do affirm um your neighbor my parents are the neighbors

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and i'm here on represent so so we we've had a lot of testimony what the question would be is

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are you in favor or against the project against is there anything at all that you haven't heard yet

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yes go ahead um i'm a civil engineer i deal with zoning issues yeah and i just want to point out

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that um that this is a very dense neighborhood and it's got a very strong combination of high

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density residential institutional health care social services mass transit single family and

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duplex residential all within a two-block area and changing the zoning or allowing a facility at 53

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29 blurs the usages of land in the neighborhood and it alters the clearly designated zonings that

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have been set up by the planning commission by the city planning office things like that

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we just hope that the applicant can find a facility because it sounds like she wants to

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do something that's good we hope she can find the right facility for it but we think that

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accepting the appeal to the zoning board's decision would not be helpful right thank you

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very much for taking the time we appreciate your test money how many uh questions or comments from

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the virtual audience how many hands do we have mr chair this is jason hand i will be your co-host

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for the rest of the session there are no hands raised at this time for the matter all right thank

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you planning commission thank you chairman good afternoon david effecto with the city planning

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commission chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the

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rsa3 residential single family zoning at this location the city rezoned this neighborhood in

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1988 in a council supported map change the appellant has shown that the proposed personal care home

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The appellant has shown that the proposed personal care home will have no detrimental

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will have no detriment.

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impacts to the neighborhood beyond what might reasonably reasonably be expected.

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We have not heard testimony that four unrelated girls in the proposed group home would have any

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more of a physical impact than four sisters living in the same family. The City Planning

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Commission recommends that the board grant a proposed special exception for a personal care

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home so we we had a lot of testimony on this case uh from you and several people here what we want

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to do is we're going to vote on this next wednesday at 2 p.m and we're going to take this to executive

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session so that i can have all the board members talk about what we've heard

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yeah sure sure come on come on

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okay just get closer to the mic for us actually thank you i'm sorry i just want to be very brief

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um however when i came today i didn't think that i had to bring my business plan i didn't think

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that i had to bring um or go over my emergency plans and all of these things i heard a lot of

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comments from them where they're concerned i just want to have it on record i have been dealing with

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children since 2008. I have been operating a child care center since 2008. We had two locations.

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We closed our second location in COVID year, which is 2021. However, I have been operating

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and handling 110 children. So for me to deal with four children, it's not that much of a difference.

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I am a CPR instructor and first aid.

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I am very skilled on emergency planning.

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There is nothing that I take lightly with the matter.

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I just wanted that to be on file.

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I think that they said that, you know, I don't have plans in place.

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I do.

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I didn't think that all of those things were what I had to bring to the table.

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I thought this issue was just about the zoning of the home.

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I didn't know it was about, you know, specifically the business portion of it.

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Well, thank you very much.

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We heard everything you said.

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Okay.

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So we did hear.

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We're going to close the testimony right now.

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We did hear from both sides.

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We'll take time next week in our executive session, and all the board members will be involved, and then we'll vote on this at 2 o'clock Wednesday.

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Okay?

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Well, I think our testimony's over.

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We heard from everybody, and what I don't want to do is just keep going back when somebody has it.

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thank you for this one second i just wanted to make it make the point that um mr wilkinson

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was at the meeting that we that we that we attended yeah and he's the one we didn't ask

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him to do this he's the one that said that that mr phillips office city council was against okay

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what were you saying that's fine we i don't we didn't receive a letter am i correct hillary we

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didn't receive any letters or anything like that but i understand your test no no no in the in the

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zoom in the zoom you you mr mr bergman you said that you will make it a matter of a record that

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He said what he said. Come on, Mr. Wilkerson.

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I said...

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Yes, you did. Yes, sir.

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I said...

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You said that you were making...

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We had Zoomed from the library

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and Mr. Wilkerson

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was sitting in the back.

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Oh, I don't...

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I don't remember that, but...

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I understand. So, in other words, you're telling me

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that Mr. Wilkerson told you that Mr. Phillips

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is against him?

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He told this board

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that the city council

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was against this

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what's going on

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thank you very much and thank you

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and I thank everybody for their input

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so next

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Wednesday at 2 p.m. we'll vote

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you don't have to come back you can listen on the phone

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because I know you guys have spent a lot of time

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