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ZBA Hearing - January 22, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 22, 20257h 43m

remain one of the other lots uh we i can work that out obviously as an easement for the for

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the other lot so everyone would have access to it to park um if that is more palatable then that's

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something that that we would we would consider to the extent the board might want to look at that

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anyway okay so we'll we'll talk about all that we're going to hold this vote to next wednesday

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at 9 30 a.m okay thank you thank you mr council number 18 right yeah mi 2024

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zero zero six four eight eight 59 54 19 cester avenue renee felder

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renee felder will be rejoining us as a panelist

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Hi, Ms. Felder

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Ms. Felder

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Does she have her hand up?

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Yes, Chair. She has been promoted to penalize.

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Okay, thank you.

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No problem.

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Renee Felder, please unmute yourself and turn your camera on.

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Hello.

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Hi, Ms. Felder. It's my fault that we got back to you so long.

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you've already been sworn in

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I hope your computer's

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working and could you start your presentation

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I'm sorry

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that I wasn't prepared I thought once I submitted

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everything that you guys will have

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so I'm going to just go forward something short

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and brief this is my first time

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so I'm going to share my screen

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and

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we want this one

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you're coming up now

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okay could everyone see that we see your refusal so why don't you move on to the next one

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whatever you have there um this is my zone and notice i posted up on the poster board in front

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of the property okay um this is the neighborhood rco notice that i mailed out to the neighborhood

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neighbors um this is actually my certificate of mailing which totaled out more than what was

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more than what i was supposed to get which was 102 neighbors okay um and the reason why i'm here

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I'm going to go back to this exhibit right here.

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The reason why I'm here, because back in 1983, this particular property was coded as a duplex.

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It was a multifamily unit.

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I purchased this property believing that it was already coded as a duplex.

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I bought it off We Love Ugly Houses.

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I'm just going to see if I can bring up the picture of the property.

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If it allow me.

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I don't know.

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Did everyone see this?

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Okay, so this is the property right here, 5419.

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The tree is in the way.

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It has two entries, two separate entries.

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It was already formatted that way when I purchased it.

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The only thing that I had done was the drywall.

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So after doing some history, I didn't know.

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I currently work for the city.

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And then I found out, hey, I'm not getting a refuse account.

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I found out I had an illegal duplex.

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So after I did the history, which is this exhibit right here, it was a duplex at one time.

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So I'm asking that the property be grandfather back in as a multifamily unit.

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As you see right here, the L&I inspection, when they came out, L&I had to come out and dictate exactly how the drive wall had to be.

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they also stay in here um throughout the two family dwelling i didn't have extra

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I didn't have extra money to, like, build extra doors or anything like that.

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money to like build extra doors or anything like that

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Only thing I did was update the property and the inside.

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It's always been a multifamily unit, as far as I know.

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So I'm just asking that you guys honor the fact and grandfather it back to the original coding.

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Could you show us the pictures of the inside of the place?

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Okay.

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I did have...

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Okay, let me see if you can see this one.

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this is i only have the second unit have to drag this over

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so this is coming up the steps okay all right this is coming up the stairway

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and then let me bring this one over

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so this is how it looks once you get up there it's a two-bedroom unit

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that I was working on.

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All I did was update.

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I had to update the wine rent and the sheetrock.

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I didn't have no extra money to pull out walls

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and make another door.

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The property was already formatted that way.

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And this would be the last picture I have

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where it's upstairs.

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And this is the living area.

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So as I argue my case,

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i'm basing it off the family history i already believe that this property was already a duplex

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i did not know that it was an r what is it a r r a s5 zoning but it's it's other multi-family

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dwellings around there they building up right here okay so when did you purchase the property

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2009 okay and you've been living in it no i don't live there i don't live there who lives on the

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is there somebody on the first floor yeah my sister your sister lives on the first floor

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and the second floor you redid um yes okay all right and these are all the multifamily this is

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a block away okay and this is the 5300 they're building up around there and i'm just asking for

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you guys to honor just to grandfather it back into this original coding of multifamily unit okay

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All right.

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Questions from the board.

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What's happening in the basement?

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Nothing.

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Nothing in the basement.

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Only thing I can say about the basement is that I need to, what they call,

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pave the walls because of the age of the building.

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But it's just like the two meters there and there and two hot water tanks.

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There's no living space in the basement at all.

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Other questions?

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I know you said that you mostly did drywall.

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Can you talk about when you completed that construction?

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Oh, I want to say the construction was completed 2009 to give it between 11 and 2012.

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And how has the property been used since 2012 to now?

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Well, at one time I was written it out and I had one rental license and then I just stopped

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because the illegal

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duplex. I don't want to get in trouble.

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Okay.

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What happened when you went to the

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RCO meeting the other day?

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Oh. Yeah.

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They

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agreed.

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Are there any other

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questions from the board?

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Yes. Do you have

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any other interior pictures

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the three you showed?

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No, because

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I didn't think I had to.

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I just grabbed what I could, and that stuff was on my phone.

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I was over here driving myself crazy.

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Probably going to get marked A ball by now.

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That's the only three that I had on my phone.

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Because, again, I don't want – what you're saying?

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You don't have pictures of the first floor space,

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and you don't have pictures of the second floor space.

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Well, the picture –

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That was the second floor.

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I was showing you how you come in separately.

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That's what I said.

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You don't have pictures of the first floor space, right?

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No, ma'am.

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Okay.

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And then the second floor, you showed an entrance, and you showed a landing, and you showed a space which you say is, I don't see a kitchen, I don't see a bathroom, I don't see any of the other parts of the space.

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a little it's hard to it's hard to um make a decision here without some idea of what was

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actually there when you um purchased well what actually was there was almost a shell

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again i bought it from we buy ugly houses so that's why i brought up the lni um investigation

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it was a shell so not a shell but i had to rebuild it for as the sheetrock and the wine and stuff and

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So not a shell, but I had to rebuild it for as the sheetrock and the wine and stuff.

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And Ellen, I had an investigator to come out.

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So, Renee, I think the issue is what the board member is saying is we need to see some more photos.

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And I think, you know, you know, you got pictures.

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What I would do is take more pictures of the second floor and then get some pictures of the first floor, too.

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Right. OK. Hillary, we can bring this back for a resumptive hearing.

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um yes we can mr chair and i just wanted to to note sorry just to note briefly for the record

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that we did receive um a letter of support from the 51st ward rco all right thank you so we do

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receive this so what i want you to do is go back and take pictures of the more pictures of the

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second floor and take more pictures of the first floor okay and then what we'll do was we'll bring

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you back, and we're going to bring you back

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on 3-18-25.

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Okay, do I have

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to submit all these documents again?

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You should, at least.

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Ma'am, what you'll need to submit

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is the photos.

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You'll receive another poster,

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so you need to submit proof of posting

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as well as an updated tax clearance.

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And I think we did not receive

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a copy of your deed the first time,

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so we would like to

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receive that as well.

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Okay. And if you have further questions,

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you can you can reach out to all right uh text clearance only they give you one yes they give

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you one for 30 days yep and then you have to get another one if you if you're continued yes

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okay yeah because i actually worked down here i hope they don't give me a hard way to go about

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this they they shouldn't they shouldn't this happens all the time okay so i need to copy

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the deed and more photos all right thank you very much all right thank you guys bye-bye is there

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anyone in the virtual audience whose case has not been called i see no hands oh chair i have a hand

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up by the name of maria last name starts with s they have been allowed to speak why could you

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please state your name and spell for the stenographer state your name maria santor juglu

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hi could you spell please m-a-r-i-a-a-m-a-r-i-a-s-a-n-t-o-u-r-t-z-o-g-l-o-u

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um do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes what case are you interested in um i live on 742 christian street

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that that'll be coming up shortly so we're we'll we'll be back in a little while okay

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okay sorry thank you that is on the two that is on the 2 p.m list we're finishing up the 9 30 list

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thank you chair this is ian hegarty uh if it pleases the board uh recommend that we start

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the two o'clock list at 2 30. okay thank you

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good afternoon everyone my name is bill bergman and i will be sharing this meeting of the zoning

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board with me is our vice chair ismail shaheed president mr chairman our board member cheryl

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L. Gaston. Present, Mr. Chairman. Our board member, Tanetta Graham.

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Present, Mr. Chairman. Our board member, Michael Johns.

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He should be on. Present, Mr. Chairman. Oh, thank you, Michael.

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And our board member, Taya Nguyen. Present, Mr. Chairman. Also, here is our

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attorney, Hillary Emerson, and Ian Haggerty, our executive

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director of the zoning board. Our supervisor, Lakeisha Dandy.

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Please be advised that this meeting is being recorded. Your participation

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in this meeting indicates your consent to be recorded.

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Video will be available, posted on the ZBA website

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approximately one week following the meeting.

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This meeting is being held in person with remote capabilities,

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meaning that individuals can participate either in person,

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at the hearing room, in one parkway building,

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or remotely over Zoom.

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When you are recognized to speak by the board,

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please state and spell your name for the court reporter.

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And then wait to be sworn in. If you are here in the hearing room, you must speak into a microphone so that everyone in attendance, including the court reporter, can hear you. If you're participating remotely, please turn on your camera and unmute yourself when you are recognized to speak.

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Once you've been sworn in, please state your name each time you testify, whether you're in person or remote, so that the court reporter knows who's speaking.

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Please mute yourself or turn off the microphone when you're not speaking.

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If you're participating by phone, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute.

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If you're participating by phone, press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute.

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If you're participating by phone, please call 267-270-5548 to register your appearance by the close of the business day after the hearing.

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You must provide an email address, the address of the property you are interested in.

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