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ZBA Hearing - September 15, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 15, 20262h 28m

good morning mr chair we have seven attendees in the virtual audience you can start as you wish

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good morning everyone my name is bill bergman and i will be chairing this morning's

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zba hearing with me is our vice chair tenetta graham president mr chairman board secretary

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cheryl l gaston president mr chairman board member tya wynn she should be here any minute

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and board member ryan mcadams vice president mr chairman also here is our board attorney

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lynn reuter uber our executive director ian haggerty and our board administrator lakeisha

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dandy who's standing right next to me here also uh this hearing is being recorded and will be

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posted on the zba website by participating you consent to be recorded this is an in-person

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meeting with remote participation whether in person or on zoom if you're called to speak

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please state and spell your name and wait to be sworn after that each time you testify start by

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stating your name to enter your appearance enter the property address on your zoom webinar

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speak with a staff member

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call the zba office by close of business tomorrow call 215-686-2429 and provide your name email

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and the case address for remote participation major raise your virtual hand when directed so

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that we can call you to speak when you call when we do call you to speak please click join us at

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panelist button use the Q&A only for procedural questions not anything to do

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with cases if you are joining by phone press star 9 to raise your hand and star

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6 to unmute in person participation if testifying get close to the

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mic so all attendees and the court reporter can hear you no talking eating

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or drinking during the hearing aggressive behavior will not be tolerated in an emergency

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follow the staff to staff instructions the main exit is the double doors at the rear

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and to the left once you're outside is the closest stairwell

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if there is an evacuation please go to love park which directly across our street

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please remain there so that we can call on you so let's let's look at our schedule for today

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number one mi20250041015944 cal hill street eric taylor is come on up please

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good morning could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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could you get close and turn that on

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push the button

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good morning my name is erica taylor e-r-i-c-a-t-a-y-l-o

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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absolutely um yes we don't believe your case is ready to go on today um this case has not

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been posted am i correct that we don't have any information that the case was posted correct

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I submitted all of the documentations and the pictures showing that I put up the notices I

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mean I have several pictures in my bag and I submitted it to um the online prompter

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um we we don't have any record of that I'm sorry about that but uh um I know this case

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has been around for a while yeah um they sent um the email stating that they received all the

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document in the pictures. So here we're going to continue the case and one more time and the next

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time it must be heard okay and we're going to continue this to 2-2-27 at 9 30 a.m. I'm sorry

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okay and then number

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seven

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so number seven mi2026

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0-0-3-0-3-3-20-50 Welsh Road. This case is continued until 2-2-27. Are there any other

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requests for continuance? Chair, pardon the interruption. I just would like to note if

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Chair, pardon the interruption. I just would like to note if the interpreter is in the audience for Welsh Road, you are dismissed. That case will be continued. Thank you.

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the interpreter is in the audience for what.

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No hands at this time, Chair.

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Okay. We're going to start with number three.

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MI 2025-006-172-413-North 41st Street.

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Eric Plummer is the owner-occupant.

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Good morning, sir.

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get that mic nice and close here could you please state your name and spell for the

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stenographer sir eric plumber eric just a little closer pull to you pull to you i don't move here

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you go eric plumber eric plu mm er do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing

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but the truth i do our vice chair has a few questions sir good morning good morning

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Have you submitted your documents? Oh, you all right? That's okay. Have you submitted your documents in exhibits 14 days in advance of this hearing?

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I have. I submitted it for the last hearing also.

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Okay, thank you. And you are here, you understand that you're here for a multifamily household, you want four units in the structure?

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Yes.

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four okay and you understand that you're being refused because that rsa five district doesn't

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allow you to have four units without coming for a variance i do understand that that that was

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changed after okay all right and you requested assistance um presenting your case so you're

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going to get your assistance so you can begin to tell us what you're trying to do i'm sorry

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can you get closer to the mic every single time i don't mean to be rude but yeah you have to talk

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thank you okay well this is a former six unit building and i i don't have the from the images

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that i i submitted one is showing that this has been a six unit building since 1967 at least

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in 2017 or about 2012 is when i i stopped renting it out and my children were living there

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And from there is, I guess, where it got the RS-5 classification, but it's always been a multifamily unit.

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I just stopped doing it commercial.

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I just stopped renting.

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I'm just looking for the variance.

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I would like to remain living there, but I would like to rent it out legally is what I'm attempting to accomplish.

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um i'm not exactly certain of i would like to remain in the rear presently i'm using a third

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we would like to keep that as one apartment and i believe the rear is the one they want to make

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another full apartment and the who are they who are they my children oh okay okay all right

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so why don't you show us what it looks like inside

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the the diagram i can the best one is the blueprint to the left sure

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every floor is like that where you see the indent that's what that's where the stairs would be

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uh but every floor is identical and what you're looking at now would be one apartment

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that previously it was six units it previously was front and back every floor was a first floor

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front first floor rear second floor front so what what's it going to be now I would like it to be a

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quadplex legally right so I mean is that in the drawings uh what the drawings show the we're not

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complete i'm going i'm going over this with the architect of the best way to pit in

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the necessary uh upgrades as far as mechanicals the plumbing and the electrical and the sprinklers

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so that i'm discussing with the architect but i had the general ideal of what existed

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in what we want to accomplish. That's generally just first floor. I'm sorry, third floor would

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be one apartment, either a door at the top or the bottom. There would be minimum changes

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is what I'm stating.

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is what i'm stating all right um

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questions from the board but i think it's difficult when you say what you're thinking

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about doing i mean it would be much easier if we could see what you're doing again i'm going

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yeah i know but when i'm saying it like there should be some maybe basic drawings that would

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show what you want to do understood but i'm just here today for the variance and yeah but i think

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the point is it's hard for us to give you a variance when we don't see what it's going to be

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we hear what you're saying but i mean i i think i i don't want to speak for the rest of the board but

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i think the board would want to see what you're what you're trying to do understood but historically

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it's always been I understand but so you're changed it and I understand what you're saying

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it was historically now it's changing so I guess the question would be we'd like to at least see

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it have a general idea what it's going to look like and what I'm just stating is going to

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you look it's going to look like pretty much what it looked like before so all right but my and you

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said it was six units right correct so when you convert it to four does that mean you have to

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knock down some walls or like that's what he's like you can't visualize like and it's going to

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be do they all how is everybody going to enter the apartments are they all coming through the

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same door or are they all is there an exit somewhere you know what i mean like how is

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how is movement going to take place everything remains the same the only thing that's happening

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is the third floor is really becoming one apartment okay so like looking at this drawing

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right here was this unnamed room like that was that that gray area that was a whole apartment

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where you see the indent that's where you entered the other doorway is where you would have entered

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the front apartment the brown yeah but what she's saying is how how are you going to make it one

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apartment you got to take some walls down cut holes somewhere right no for for the for the

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particular third floor this particular one yeah you're just putting a door well that's what i

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said right yeah correct you're putting your button to make a door make that part at the

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bottom of the steps see and the question is like when i when i see this on the screen i i thought

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that this was the third floor but this must be the first floor correct the one that's on the screen

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right now is that the third floor or the first floor that one would be because i see well i see

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there's a doorway in the back opening up correct is that the back or front of the house right there

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okay that is the back correct so that's i mean so without these drawings without any specifics

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it's it's kind of hard to uh yeah so throw it so so here here's what i think you need to do

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i'm going to have a resumptive hearing you're going to come back and have some basic drawings

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from the architect of what your vision is okay and that's going to be on 12 8 right at the 8th of

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December at 9 30 a.m. Okay. We want you back with some drawings and submit them and things

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of that nature like you normally would. Okay. And I'm just to get clarification because I was under

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the impression that the drawings weren't needed because I was only asking for the variance.

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Yeah. We're not going to give the variance until we see what you're going to do.

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Understood. Okay. All right. All right. And that's, we're not being negative. We just,

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for both sides, I think it'll be the right thing to do.

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Understood.

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Okay.

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Thank you for coming in.

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Mr. Chairman, and also by that time,

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hopefully you'll have documentation

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that you're tax compliant.

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But even today, we didn't have documentation

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that you were tax compliant.

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I'm sorry, that was submitted.

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The tax compliance certification was submitted.

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No, it was not.

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Or whatever you submitted was not sufficient.

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so you need to look into that before you have enough time before december so so what i'm asking

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is if it's the certificate that came from the city from the tax clearance is it enough

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what else is it would i be providing why don't you do me a favor why don't you call the office

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yeah i did well no call our office here and they'll make sure that you have everything you

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need the next time and could we pull it up and and i'm not just asking if that's not it we're

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we're not we're not going to do that now just call the office and before you come back you'll

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have everything you need all right thank you for you no thank you thank you um council number two

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do we want to hold that that's jennifer bazillo yeah because i believe um that she's not available

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yet um all right so i think we should go to the next one and then yeah i got it thank you

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Thank you.

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five number five

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take your time take your time

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problem uh i i i will gladly uh

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all right go to number eight right

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page here

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yeah number eight

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yes number eight here we go number eight mi 2026 000 862 3456 rose hill street

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alan knockamson is the attorney this is a resumptive hearing

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here's jennifer all right

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good morning mr knockamson

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good morning mr chair members of the board could you please state and spell your name

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for the stenographer yes alan knockamson a-l-a-n last name knockamson n-o-c-h-u-m-s-o-n

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do so this is a

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resumptive hearing um

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you will supplement the information from the last hearing that is correct mr and what we'll do is

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have questions from the board and the council and then we'll take public testimony to go to

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city planning all right um we don't have anything different from you no no mr chair and by the way

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i try to log on to my computer and it's not connecting to the internet for some reason

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so oh so okay all right so i doubt you know i try to do my hot spot too and that wasn't working i

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don't think it works here so so why don't you tell us where this case yeah so just as a reminder

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just a brief background this is a single family structure my client bought it in the middle of

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construction he had no idea that there was no permits for this property um you know he hired

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us to legalize this structure um as part of you know that process um we had the our client perform

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a structural analysis of the property with an engineer so the board can feel comfortable that

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that obviously this is a structure that is worth saving um again his hands are clean in that respect

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that he had no idea and so um you know and he understands that if the board feels so inclined

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to grant the variance he still has to go through the whole building permit process which would

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require a lot of those same inspections um and you have that structural analysis and you also

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have a letter from the community in support of this project you can unmute it oh i i didn't know

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uh so anyway um so after the hearing you know the board you know felt you know that you know there

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should be you know additional discussions between my client and their professionals regarding

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maybe potentially shaving shaving down the building to in some respect my client spoke to

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his structural engineer spoke to his architect and you know you know given the circumstances

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AND THE EXPENSE INVOLVED AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN ADEQUATE PROPERTY FROM A STRUCTURAL

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STANDPOINT, HE WISHES TO PRESENT THIS AS IS AND HOPES THAT THE BOARD FEELS SO INCLINED

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TO GRANT THE VARIANCE IN THAT RESPECT. QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

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QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM OUR ATTORNEY? NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. QUESTIONS OR

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time chair planning commission yeah

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farming you already testified and you stand on that testimony right okay mr chair if we could

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just have uh mr knockamson's client adopt his additional testimony oh sure sure i start could

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you please state your name and spell for the stenographer my name is julio gonzalez uh first

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name is j-u-l-i-o last name gonzalez g-o-n-z-a-l-e-z do you swear or firm to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth yes it's not gonna say you want to have your testimony

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adopted yes um mr gonzalez you heard everything i had to state today about your zoning matter

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correct including the fact that you purchased a property midway through construction yes and that

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you had no knowledge that there weren't active permits to complete the construction correct

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Correct.

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in that you sought advice from your real estate.

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And that you sought advice from your real estate professionals, such as your structural engineer and architect, about the stability of the property as of close to today.

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Yes.

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And how it would be financially devastating if the board would deny this variance and require ultimately a demolition of this building structure.

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Yes.

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And everything I said was true and correct.

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