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ZBA Hearing - August 12, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 12, 20267h 30m

these are trash closets in the units are there what does he ask me i'm sorry

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yes units can store trash in their in their apartment and then just take it out twice a week

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there's no is the court the question is is there a dedicated closet in the units for trash that's

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the question no so and on your first floor level it looks like you have to go through a bedroom to

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access the rear yard correct okay that for me that's a that's a that's a non-starter to have

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to go through somebody's bedroom to go to the backyard because typically your trash is stored

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out there or you're having a barbecue and people are running you don't want people running through

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your bedroom to go to the rest of your unit so that that's a concern um big concern for me

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that layout and what's the what's the depth of the the basement below grade

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can you go back to your section

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so my client is fine with doing private trash as well

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say that again devon my client is fine with doing private trash if we have to do private

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trashed your phone we're doing that as well so at this go ahead i'm sorry so in this section this

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shows that your basement is almost eight feet below grade which is a non-starter for me um

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because that's you know you're you're lower than you know quite frankly a grave um and it did it

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it just creates a generally bad situation in terms of light air ventilation and quality of a space so

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that's problematic for me

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i just want to point out this this project was approved already we're only coming back in front

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of you because we're trying to add the additional unit that we also got the approval for

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I didn't hear I didn't hear most of what you said this project has already been approved for

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two units by the RCO we're coming back because we're trying to add the additional unit to that

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they already that they agreed to approve is this is not built correct no this is a big line okay

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so that's what we're reviewing we understand why you're here but this is what we're reviewing was

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what we have in front of us and those are my concerns with what you have in front of us

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is there any particular demonstrated hardship for having three units instead of the two

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yeah so because i um with the funding um the funding it would only work if you did it the

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three units without the three units the project wouldn't move forward it would just remain thinking

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Some units that have 3 units in rooming housing.

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Well, I have, I have an issue with the basement living as well. So.

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That's something that your client may want to, you know, consider.

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If 2 units would be feasible here as opposed to 3.

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So, it is possible to do this, and we just not have the basement living. So, with your approval, we can do it and just remove the basement living and just use the basement storage.

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So, any other questions?

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If you took away the basement living, would you then reverse the.

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like the bedroom units with the one bedroom end up being lower higher because obviously

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it still wouldn't be a two-bedroom unit on the first yeah it would be a it would be a one

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bedroom on the first floor and then the basement would probably just be used for storage so then

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you would have a one bedroom one bedroom and then a two bedroom would be the highest correct

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which we're fine with doing well well let's before we go on anymore what are you going

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to do with the first floor where the the entrance to the rear yard is through the

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bedroom what are you going to do about that

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i mean we could maybe bring your client why don't you bring why don't you bring your client on and

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Why don't you bring your client on and talk to your client about that? Why don't we try to get that straight?

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talk to your client about.

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Mr. Jones?

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Yes.

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So the rear exit is through a bedroom. Is there a way that we can change this so that it's not a bedroom that's right here?

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i would i would have to speak with an architect to confirm but i believe so i would have to speak

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with her uh to confirm everything but i believe there is okay so we can be in agreement we'll

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just make it so that it's not the bedroom that's that's right there at the exit

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oh we can we can do a refriguration of the plans right for sure right questions from our attorney

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not at this time come on up please i know you've been here a long time

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hi

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you would get as close as you can to that line

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okay right and could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer

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my name is bonita cummings um story mansion community concern or the court reporter could

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you spell your name is b-o-n-i-t-a is my first name and c-u-m-m-i-n-g-s you're a firm to tell

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the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do please start your testimony

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So I have permission to speak?

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Yeah, of course.

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I just first need to say that

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Strawberry Mansion Community Concerns

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supports redevelopment

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and supports additional housing opportunities.

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And the reason that this is very important is because

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the narrative is that we are opposed to

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uh development and or um affordable housing so i just want to clear that up for everyone

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um that we are not opposed to affordable housing and or new development okay um because that this

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narrative is is getting weaponized and it's trying to ruin people's reputations i don't i don't want

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things of that nature but as this relative to 24 50 right 24 50 um north 30th street has had

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at two meetings it's come before this board in 2025

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where the thought was that it was a preexisting property

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but it really was a new development

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which is why we're back here at this time.

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So the issue before the board is not

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whether housing should be built.

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The issue is whether the requested variances are necessary

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and whether they preserve the integrity

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of the Strawberry Mansion neighborhood conservative

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conservation overlay adopted by city council agreed so if the overlay is disregarded and in

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this case they want to go higher than the heights of that whole side of the block um we are not sure

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if they were actually turning the porch to meet with the conformity of the porches in the block

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And then you're asking, they're asking to also impact air circulation, light, odors, because they want to go further back out with the property, then the variances are, I mean, the refusals are saying they want to.

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so we're asking the zoning board to not create a condition in this block that the pre-existing

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residents will be harmed by so we would ask that our overlay not be stripped here um as stripping

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away that overlay strips away and overlays all across the city so this this property's height

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is too high they want to go higher than the height of uh the pre-existing uh residents on the block

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we sent photos in to the board demonstrating

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that this block is really a very intact block

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and it's a working block.

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So there are 15 orange cones in your photos

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that we sent to you showing that the neighbors

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blocked their parking spaces off with these cones

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over 15 different properties.

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So you have that showing up, showing that to you.

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So impacting this block by three more apartments creates a density that this block is already harmed by.

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And they're trying to make like, oh, this block is so barren and it's all these vacant lots.

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is all these vacant lots.

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It's not a lot of vacant lots.

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It's not a lot of vacant lots. It may be some unhabitated.

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It may be some unhabitated properties

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and there are some lots,

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but it's a pretty, pretty intact block.

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And the residents,

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some of the residents are blocking their spaces off

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in this block because there was a carjacking.

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And so the women who work,

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some of them have to leave to go to work

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very early in the morning.

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Like we got 5.30 AM women traveling out of their homes.

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So trying to put three stories

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into this block will first raise the height.

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So we are just asking to preserve our overlay.

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We're asking that if you felt the need

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to rent this process that it would not violate our overlay,

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it would not be more than two units,

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of course, no basement living,

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and they would need to really identify

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a solidified trash process because two days

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doesn't necessarily mean for three units of residents

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that it would be sufficient for them to um for the trash to be so we sent the whole

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yep letter and you can see what our concerns are primarily our concern is the overlay three stories

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violates our overlay because they have to go too high um and it violates the refusals that the

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overlay talks about okay evan do you have any questions

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yeah um miss monita i'm just curious you saying we you're saying we i have a copy of your

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vote summary did you did your rco support this project did the votes did the neighbors support

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this project pardon me i have a copy of the voting summary and it looks like they were all in support

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is that accurate that the neighbors supported the project the the summary is based on the process

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that you all had in place yeah the rco meeting right at the rco meeting and it was

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the it was three applicants based on just people being outside y'all did a meeting

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where people were on people's phones outside.

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They were on Zoom.

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It really was only two residents.

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One, we said, okay, because she said her mother's property was next door,

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we put that as support.

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But there was conditional support from the RCO

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based on not violating our overlay,

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which we spoke with you all about at the meeting.

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And that's what this summary is showing. It shows interested parties were two, and then there was one applicant and one attorney. So the support from the RCO is in not violating our overlay. And if you can do two units and not take your property up higher than the rest of those properties in that block is what we're trying to preserve, which we expected.

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Can I call up the neighboring property owner? Because that's not accurate based on what happened at the meeting, and it's not accurate based on the voting summary. The vote was based on three units.

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no the the vote was based on well that it may have been based on what you're what you're saying

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in terms of the residents but the conditional um the condition what we're saying we had three votes

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conditionally that also um wants to preserve our overlay and your your your development um and

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trying to continue to promote this block as some destitute block um is inaccurate is an

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inaccurate description to try and create the type of infrastructure impact um that that property

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will have and we're asking the board to consider um what we're saying as it relates to the overlay

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because the overlay impacts not only strawberry mansion but it impacts all of the overlays of the

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city if we start stripping away what the overlays are meant to preserve so that's what we're saying

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thank you mr chair can i call can i call up the neighboring property owner why don't we do this

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why don't we see if there's anyone else in the audience okay is there anyone else in the audience

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who wants to speak on this issue yes chair i have a handle from mina shabazz okay i've allowed them

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to speak good afternoon hi could you please state your name and spell them for the stenographer

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sure amina shabazz a-m-i-n-a-h last name s-h-a-b-a-z-z can you see me

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not yet not yet okay i would have to promote you to panelists ma'am okay because i'm i'm out here

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hold on hold on do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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i do are you a neighbor i am the nearest neighbor to the project yes so why don't you tell us what

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your thoughts are? My thoughts are that I am currently on the block.

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My thoughts are that I am currently on the block.

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I strongly support it being three units next door.

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I am out here with about seven to eight other individuals who have been on the Zoom since two o'clock who want to testify that they also support it being three units.

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There are 18 empty lots on the block.

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18 spaces where houses should be and families should be. There are six boarded up houses that

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are abandoned on the block. There is plenty of parking. There is plenty of space. There are

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several empty lots on this block. It does look barren. It does look empty. This project is on

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the side of the street where all the houses are three-story two houses down from me at 2456 is a

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triplex it's already a triplex it's three units not the immediate next door but one over and

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one of the residents there is out here and she wants to identify herself and speak we strongly

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support this project the block captain uh miss miss bode and her son are out here they've lived

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here 60 years six decades they strongly supported being a okay so part of your testimony is there's

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you said 18 people out there how many there are 18 empty lots but if you turn on the camera i can

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introduce you and show you everybody that's been out here waiting for four hours

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let me promote you to panelists ma'am thank you

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please pardon me mr chair okay

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hi i see you so i just just from where i'm standing so i'm literally right on the block

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okay and i'm going to turn the camera around there's an empty lot there's one two three

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in succession boarded up houses that nobody lives in down the street

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at the end there are 10 other empty lots on the block at the end of this block is more

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clip comes around here all the time and cleans up these lots to say there are no empty spaces

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on this block here is an empty space where four houses were right here

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okay all right I think and then further down the street and further but I want to introduce

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to the people that have been waiting to speak well this is the lot that we're referencing

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yep that's empty here's the house that i own and here's a triplex right here and

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i will turn the camera around and how do you do this like this you can just

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hey my name is the maya i live at 24 56 north 30th street hold on could you spell your name

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for the stenographer um it's d-a-m-y-a all right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told

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truth nothing but the truth yes are you in favor of this project yes all right thank you very much

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and this young man has been on the block for a very long time you could just your name could

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you please state your name is felon's name is coleman on the 2461 30th street right

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he said do you swear affirm to tell the truth yes okay are you in favor of this project or against

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yes all right and then all right why and then i i'm now listen to me i think we're fine we're

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fine you sure because the block captain is right here he really wants to speak i'm sorry is that

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Okay.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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Same.

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All right, Block Captain.

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How are you?

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes.

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My name is Carl Bode.

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