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ZBA Hearing - September 28, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 28, 20225h 31m

Yes, I am.

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Lakeisha, let me know when people are in, please.

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I will, Chair.

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Thank you.

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okay chair we have 35 attendees and we can start when you like thank you good morning my name is

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bill bergman and i will be chairing this morning zba hearings with me is carol tenere our vice

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Chair. Present, Mr. Chairman. And Ismail Shahid, our Board Secretary.

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Present, Mr. Chairman. Also here is our Board Attorney, Hillary Emerson,

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and our ZBA Hearing Supervisor, Lakeisha Dandy. Before we begin, here's our virtual format.

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Be advised, these proceedings are being recorded. By participating, your knowledge agreement to be

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recorded. A video will be available by contacting tonyasunkett at phillip.gov. For the benefit of

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our court stenographer, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone, if you wish to testify, press star 9 to raise your hand and star

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6 to unmute. To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548. Leave your email and the

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address of the property in question. And finally, the question answer box on the screen is not for

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comments or testimony. All comments should be referred to our Executive Director, Tanya Sunkit.

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Let's look at our continuances for today's hearing, for this morning's hearing.

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Number nine, MI 2021-002-827-2132 North Darien Street.

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That case is continued.

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Number 10, MI-2022-002-928-549-51 North 10th Street.

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That case is continued.

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Number 12, MI-2022-002-926-1430 South 6th Street.

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That case is continued.

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And number 14, MI 2022-002-927-1426-28, South 6th Street, that case is continued.

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Those four cases are continued.

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So anyone in the virtual audience has a comment relative to those cases?

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I see no handshare.

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Thank you.

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Are there any other requests for continuances for this morning's meetings?

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chair we have jennifer basilio okay

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hi uh this is jennifer basilio b-a-z-y-d-l-o 2401 walnut street all right do you swear for

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him to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes proceed um i'm just here to um

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I know you said continuances, but I have a withdrawal for today.

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Yeah, I was going to call the withdrawal, but let me list it.

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MI 2021-002-628-1931-33-Rawn Street.

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That case is withdrawn.

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Thank you.

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I'm sorry.

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I jumped the gun.

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No, no, no.

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That's fine.

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That's fine.

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That's fine.

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Thank you.

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Any other requests for continuances?

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Yes, Chair.

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we have John

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last name ending in R

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Esquire

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okay

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good morning Mr. Chairman

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hi could you state your name

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and the spell for the court reporter please

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it's John Raimondi it's R-A-I

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M-O-N-D-I

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I like to withdraw

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do you wait one minute

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

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the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes I do

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what case

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This is 1813 South 15th Street.

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1813, right.

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Okay, thank you.

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MI 2022, 002, 768, 1813 South 5th Street.

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That case is withdrawn.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Right.

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Are any other cases for continuance?

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Are any other cases for continuance?

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I see no handshare.

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Okay, I also have cases that are, hold on, with number five, MI 2021-002-607-1938 North 24th Street, no exhibits, fourth listing, Vern Anastasio is the attorney.

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Chair, we have Vern Anastasio.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair.

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Good morning, Mr. Anastasio.

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Could you state your name and spell it for the court reporter, please?

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Certainly. It's Vern, V-E-R-N, Anastasio, A-N-A-S-T-A-S-I-O.

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Right. Do you swear a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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1938 North 24th?

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Yeah, it's a real head-scratcher for me as well, Mr. Chair.

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I know this is the fourth listing.

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I'm just going to ask you to withdraw it.

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I just can't locate my client, and I don't know where he went.

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So if we need to pursue it, I could always reapply.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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MI2021-002-607-1838, North 24th Street.

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This case is withdrawn.

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And number 15...

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MI 2020, 001-936-5901 North 10th Street. No exhibit, second listing.

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Richard and Carol Brown. Carol Brown are the listed owners.

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What number is that Mr. Chair? Number 15. 15, okay. There are no hands at this time, Chair. Okay, so

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MI2020-001-936-5901-North 10th Street, I vote to dismiss.

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Dismiss.

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Yes, I vote to dismiss.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Any other requests for withdrawal?

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I see no hands, Chair.

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We're going to go to our add-on list. MI 2022-003-345-6995 Pichon Street. This was a resumptive hearing. Here's the update. The vote on this matter has been moved to Wednesday, October 12th at 9.30 a.m. Thank you.

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We're going to go to our regular list. Number one, 2021-005-235-3232, Henry Avenue. Lawrence

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Calley is the attorney. Still waiting for an RCO letter. Meeting was held 9-15.

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Mr. Calley is coming back in as a panelist. Thank you.

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Good morning, Mr. Chairman. Larry Calley for the record on behalf of the applicant.

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Hi, Mr. Calley, could you spell your name for the court reporter, please?

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Certainly. First name is Lawrence, L-A-W-R-E-N-C-E. Last name is Calley, C-A-L-L-I.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, sir.

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Our vice chair, Carl Tenere, has a few questions.

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Okay, very good.

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Good morning, Mr. Cowley. Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its

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accuracy? Yes, I do. Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership tax compliance,

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a copy of the refusal or referral, photos and or plans of the property five days in advance of this

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hearing, and have you met with the RCO, and do you have a letter? Yes to all of that, ma'am.

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Okay, that's great. You may proceed and begin with sharing your screen.

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Thank you very much. So I have, I don't know if our design consultant is here or trying to get

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into the room. Her name is Lindsay Deja. I was going to ask her as the design consultant to

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perhaps share her screen and walk the board through the sign proposed, but I don't know

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if she's in the room. If not, I can certainly endeavor to do this myself. I've just promoted

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Ms. Deja to a panelist. Wonderful. Thank you. And thank you for promoting me this morning. I've

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rarely been promoted in life so this morning is a treat for me um and yes i am i could you

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as well hi could you state your name is spelled please for the court reporter

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um lindsay l-i-n-d-s-a-y and last name is d as in dog y-j-a all right do you swear

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All right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes i do

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Yes, I do.

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Let's do it.

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Proceed.

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Thank you. So, Mr. Chairman, before I turn it over to Lindsay to share her screen and walk you through the plans,

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and by the way, the only thing we're going to show you this morning are things that were initially filed

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and part of the exhibit packet that was submitted.

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This is a Davina Dialysis Clinic, Mr. Chairman and members.

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They're a national provider of end-stage renal care for patients throughout the country and the world.

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In fact, they're a Fortune 300 company.

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They've been occupying space here on Henry for some time now,

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and the proposal is for a simple non-illuminated sign, brushed aluminum.

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It's under 15 square feet of area.

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It would have been a permit only had this not been technically tantamount to a roof sign, Mr. Chairman,

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which violates the regulations.

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There are already roof signs on this property.

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This one is very slight, as Lindsay will testify to shortly.

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We did have an opportunity to meet with the Neighborhood Committee on September 15th in the evening,

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Representative of my office was with them.

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It was a very brief and supportive meeting.

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And this morning, we are pleased to be in receipt of a letter executed by Rosalie Cooper, dated September 26th,

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which my partner advanced to the city this a.m. as soon as we got it,

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which supports the request for us to install this 104-inch by 17-inch,

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I'm approximating and I'm estimating overages,

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Stein over the entrance for the DeVita patient area to help better identify our medical facility

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here. So we're glad. Counsel, could you make sure that letter goes to Hillary Emerson, our counsel?

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I think it already did. I think my partner sent it over this morning to everybody on the

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distribution list, but we'll make sure of that again. Mr. Chair, this is Hillary. Yes, I just

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checked and we did receive the letter. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Proceed,

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council. Thank you. So with that, Mr. Chairman, what I'd like to do is a very simple application.

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I don't want to take up more of your time this morning than we need to. I'd like to turn over

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to Lindsay to perhaps walk you through the signage. We'll take you through the material,

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the colors, the location, and we'll answer any questions you might have, of course.

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Sorry about that. Proceed. Okay. You should have screen share capability, Lindsay.

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there we go she does all right can everybody see my screen it's coming up it's up now we're good

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okay so this is the sign that we are proposing um and as larry mentioned it is very similar to

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the signers that's actually already on the property um there is one that we actually took

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the measurements um and kind of replicated the devita kidney care sign after which is the new

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Portland pavilion apartments. So you'll see that this is going to be half inch brushed aluminum

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letters. And unfortunately, due to how the building is constructed, it's going to have to be

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a roof mount sign. So the aluminum will be mounted to the backer and then have a three inch high

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support systems, ankle support that'll be mounted directly to the roof. The second page kind of goes

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through some more detail of the actual construction of that with the aluminum angle, the holes that

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we would use, that there'll be no penetrations to the roof at all, and the different materials

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that we would be using to actually adhere that to the top of the building. And then we also

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did add in some additional information of what the top of the roof looked like and what the

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The distance of everything is a.

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Lindsay, do you have photos of the building?

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Yes.

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Okay, so this is the sign that we would actually be replicating it off of, the pavilion sign.

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And as you can see, this one's actually 260 inches long, so the one that we're proposing is actually quite a bit shorter.

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lindsey i i proffered to the chairman of the board that these signages in keeping with other

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signage on the property and in the area in your professional opinion um is this sign right sized

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for the location that we're proposing hundred percent um with it being 15 square feet this

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is a substantially smaller sign than we even do for DaVita dialysis on a normal basis where

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their national sign vendor. So with the height of it actually only

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So with the height of it actually only being a little less than 17 inches high, it definitely is smaller.

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Lindsay, could you show us the building, please?

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Is there a photo of the building?

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Yep. Are you able to see the...

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I think we're still stuck on the screen showing the construction.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Yeah, no, that's okay.

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here i am going through the pictures and it's not showing you guys that would probably help right

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you were explaining it very well all right here we go okay

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and where it says new cartland apartments that's where the sign is going to be similar to that

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correct yes all right okay so this is the sign that we actually um are replicating

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um our techs went up there and took very detailed measurements um construction photos

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construction drawings right okay to see what the roof looked like

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mr kelly you have anybody from the organization there to adopt your testimony

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uh you know my project manager is trying to log in he's having difficulties okay well you're you're

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you're an officer of the court we'll accept it but thank you questions yeah questions from the board

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all right questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i see no he is chair by planning commission good morning chair bergman ian hegarty for the

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