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ZBA Hearing - January 19, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 19, 20226h 51m

with all of the requirements from the ZBA and all of the requirements under the RCO ordinances

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requiring notice I can't control what the RCO the coordinating RCO did or didn't do

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all i know is that i sent everything in that needed to be sent in mailed twice mailed three

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times mailed complete notice packet to all surrounding property owners in accordance with

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the list that we were provided and if the coordinating rco didn't complete the form properly

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with all due respect i ask that not be held against the applicant because we did everything

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that we should do hey everything we could do what a mission mr richards did you want to take

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position on this yes uh we're going to oppose the variance thank you thank you um questions from the

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board no mr chairman no mr chairman no mr jim questions from the virtual audience

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no further answer uh planning commission

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good afternoon chair bergman and members of the board david effecto city planning commission

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so the comprehensive plan recommends that the zoning for this property change to residential

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multi-family and the proposal for three dwelling units would comply with the proposed change

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However, that zoning change has not been adopted by the council.

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however the that zoning change has not been adopted uh by the council office or the community so um

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since there is no clear hardship presented uh in this presentation we are going to or i'm sorry

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the city planning commission is going to recommend that the board deny the use variance mi 2021 002885

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3350 north 22nd street i vote no carol tenary my vote is no thomas holliman my vote is no

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James Snell, my vote is no

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Ishmael Shahid, my vote is no

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Thank you

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MI 2021

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002418

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3301 South

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20th Street, RCO

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Packer Park, Civic Association

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Letter of Support, Ron Patterson

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Mr. Patterson, we'll be rejoining as a panelist, sir.

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Sure.

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Good afternoon.

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Mr. Patterson, you've already been sworn today, I think, several times.

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Good to have an unopposed one.

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Could you please answer a few questions from our vice chair?

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Sure.

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Hi, Ron.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Based on all of the notes I'm reading, I see that you've submitted all the required documents.

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Is that correct?

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That's correct.

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You may proceed.

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Thank you.

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Also, I have one witness, Reverend Brad Leach, L-E-A-C-H.

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um anyway ronald patterson 1835 market street footoff vpa 19103 i'm going to share my screen

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here excuse me so this regards uh a property in packard park uh at the corner of 20th street and

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gary street and this view at the top is from 20th street um for 60 years it was known as calvary

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Temple Church. It was a staple

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in our neighborhood. I say ours because I'm on the

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Packer Park Civic

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Association Board.

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And it consists

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of a church

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school here. It's a

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very large property. Here's a view of the

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school building from the side.

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This is a view from

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Geary Street

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on the side of the church.

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And here's where

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this regards an existing sign

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which is right here in this corner

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and also

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visible

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right here

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so

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Calvary Temple

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as I mentioned has been the foundation

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of the neighborhood along with several

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other churches in the neighborhood

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Holy Spirit, St. Richard's

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and about three years ago

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the church closed

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but fortunately

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Reverend Leach and his church

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City Life took over

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the church

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I have a

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photograph

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I'm going to show you

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compare and contrast but you see that the church

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is beautiful now

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it needed a lot of work

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and they've done a great job

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bringing it back to life

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have over 500 members now

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So the application basically is to replace this freestanding sign that's been there for 60 years, which probably, sorry, this is a picture with a cover over it.

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The existing sign was there since the church had begun, so existed as non-conforming at this point because it's now an RM1 residential zoning district.

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The existing sign was 8 feet wide and 4 1⁄2 feet tall, 36 square feet per side, 72 square feet total.

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So the proposed sign is to go to a smaller sign, same exact location, to a nice monument sign of dimensions of six feet wide from left to right, four and a half, four and three quarters feet to the bottom of the copy, meaning making 28 square feet per side at 57 square feet total.

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So it's the comparison between 72 square feet and 57 square feet.

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As you see, the property is quite large.

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It's a residential district, but the fact that it is so large, it needs some kind of identification.

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And everybody who knows the church is used to looking for that particular sign.

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It is across the street from some neighbors. We had an open meeting with the Packer Park Civic Association. There's no objection. As a matter of fact, it was overwhelmingly supported.

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It is across the street from some neighbors.

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We had an open meeting with the Packer Park.

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So with that said, we would ask that the relief be granted to replace the sign with the smaller and up-to-date sign.

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With that, Reverend, are you there?

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Yes, I'm here.

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Okay, could you state your name, sir, please, and the reverend, and spell it for the court reporter?

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Brad Leach, B-R-A-D-L-E-A-C-H.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Hi, Pastor Leach. You've heard my testimony. Would you agree it's true and accurate?

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Yes.

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And you would adopt it as if you were your own?

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Yes.

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And so you are the founding member of City Life Church that arrived here three years ago, is that correct?

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Yes.

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And what I mentioned about the sign, is that kind of well-known, critical to the members now to try to find your church who are now new members?

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Yes.

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Great. That's all I have for Pastor.

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Questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No.

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Mr. Chairman.

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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Questions from the virtual audience or comments?

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I see no further hands, Mr. Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Bergman, members of the board, the David Fecto City Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the residential single-family zoning at this location.

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The proposed sign is connected with the religious congregation's free exercise of religion

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because it impacts their ability to attract congregants.

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So the City Planning Commission is going to recommend that the board grant the dimensional variance.

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MI 2021-002418-3301 South 20th Street, I vote yes.

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Carol Tenere, my vote is yes.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes. Thank you so much. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I'll be stepping

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off, but I'll come back one. Thank you. Thank you. Tanya, did we ever get number one back?

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She's here. Ms. Ford, are you ready to proceed with your presentation?

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Jason, could you allow the hand that's up now to speak, please?

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I'm allowed to speak. Hello, how are you?

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so miss ford first of all i need you to mute one device and only have audio on the one you wish to

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speak on are you ready are you ready to proceed do you have your exhibits to put up yes so do you

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need to be promoted on this device you're speaking on now yes is this where you're going to show your

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exhibits on this device yes okay jason may you promote her please and cheer when she comes in

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it's all ready for you okay it's been promoted

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hello

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Ms. Ford?

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Carnegie, did we lose her?

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No, I think she's coming in.

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Let's check now.

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Ms. Ford, are you ready?

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You can turn on your video and open your mic.

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Ms. Ford has kicked off, this is Angelina Geiger, she's joining back on, we're in the

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same rooms together on different devices.

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so which one is who's going to test on the ipad we are on three devices i don't know

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we're having technical difficulties okay so um miss ford is now joining again

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if you can hear me so let's see um if we can promote her now Jason

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no I don't see her I don't see her yet

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Ms. Ford is kicked off can someone let Ms. Ford back in I can't hear what they're saying

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I can't hear anything

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so the problem is that um in order for her to be promoted she has to be a current attendee

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and i don't see her listed so we don't have to let anyone in anyone can join this public event

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if you can hear me this is angelina geiger

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yeah yes i am here with melita ford we're here together in the same room

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Ms. Ford

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Her device

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somehow out of the meeting

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Ms. Ford

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I mean Angelina can you hear me

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Yes I can

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Yeah

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We got a bunch of

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devices on there

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Tanya

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Okay

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okay okay now let me hear you speak miss ford okay i'm here okay so right other

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our angelina keep yours off miss ford you're on is your video on um video put your video on

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start we're gonna get you done today here we go here we go here we go thank you so much i'm old

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school i'm sorry okay let's try to see if you can share your screen now see if that works

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hit the share screen button

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okay you hit share screen yes ma'am all righty here it goes here it goes you can go ahead chair

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all right i think if i remember correctly melita i i already swore you in yes okay so so

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So, Thomas Holliman is going to ask you a few questions.

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Thomas?

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Okay.

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Did you mail the exhibit package with all the required documents?

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Yes.

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Please proceed and share your screen, which you're doing.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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So I'm going to talk while I'm sharing.

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We are trying to open up a salon at my sister's rent.

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It is 2,900 square feet altogether.

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We'll be using 500 square feet in the basement.

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One second.

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Okay.

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This is our refuel.

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just waiting for that to pop up

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okay this is our refusal very good um i also got my tax clearance that i was

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told to get i'm gonna wait for that to pop up

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And I'm also going to show you our community meeting summary.

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And for our meeting, we got 100% support from the RCOs and the neighbors around the neighborhood.

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and there's this and I'm going to show you a few pictures of where we're going to be working

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so um this will be the salon area so it has a private um driveway and a private entrance

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and a private bathroom also um right to the right of this picture is where they will be

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coming into the salon. And sorry, it's not operating right now, so it's a little

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