civus
Hearing video

ZBA Hearing - August 10, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 10, 20224h 29m

No, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

Similar wording

chair i see no hands at this time planning commission good morning mr chairman david

Similar wording

facto f-e-c-t-e-a-u with the city planning commission right you swear or affirm to tell

Similar wording

the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes sir i do proceed thank you sir mr

Similar wording

chairman and members of the board the comprehensive plan recommends a change at this location to

Similar wording

residential single family zoning since we have not received a request to rezone this neighborhood

Similar wording

we must judge the application according to the current zoning from 1933 so that is rm1 there is

Similar wording

no unique physical condition of this 1463 square foot lot that would prevent it from being used in

Similar wording

conformance with the zoning code that is for three dwelling units we also note that smaller dwelling

Similar wording

units are not necessarily more affordable the city planning commission recommends the board deny the

Similar wording

variance for a fourth unit. Mr. Chairman, I heard that Mr. Fecto mentioned it's 1400 square foot

Similar wording

lot. I just want to, our information has it as 1500 plus square foot. So I'm not sure if that is

Similar wording

something that is different in the city records. With regard to the area, I do want to point out

Similar wording

also that the area actually is completely multifamily zoning, but it's also relatively

Similar wording

underdeveloped at this time so i would ask the board take into consideration that situation

Similar wording

thank you thank you m i 2022 001 800 1027 west orphan street i vote yes thomas halliman my vote

Similar wording

is yes james snell my vote is yes ishmael shaheed my vote is yes thank you may i be excused yeah

Similar wording

Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Number seven, MI 2022-001-685-1838 Bainbridge Street.

Similar wording

Vern Anastasio is the attorney. Letter of support from SOSNA.

Similar wording

Chair, Mr. Anastasio is coming back in as a panelist now.

Similar wording

good morning Mr. Chair good morning you've already been sworn just state your name please for the

Similar wording

record that's Vern Anastasio A-N-A-S-T-A-S-I-O could you identify your client in relationship

Similar wording

to the property yes my client is Ms. Lisa Flaherty and she is the owner of the property

Similar wording

thank you our our board secretary has a few questions good morning counsel good morning

Similar wording

Do you agree to weigh the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

All right.

Similar wording

Did you email the exhibits of the documents required, proof of ownership, tax clearance,

Similar wording

copy of refusal or referral, pictures of drawings of the property within five days in advance

Similar wording

of this hearing, and did you meet with the RFCO, and do you have a letter?

Similar wording

Yes to all that.

Similar wording

Please proceed and share your screen.

Similar wording

Please proceed to share your screen.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

My screen is shared, and this is for the removal of an existing roof deck, partial demolition of a rear portion of the existing structure, which is basically the outdoor stairs, which are pretty dangerous and unsightly, and the construction of a roof deck with roof deck access structure, and the size and location are going to be on the plans that I show you.

Similar wording

The roof deck access structure is at the very corner of the property, and as such, what is allowed is 38 feet.

Similar wording

We're proposing 43, and the height due to the setback is 38 feet, and it's 43 as proposed.

Similar wording

And again, as you'll see in a moment, sorry about that.

Similar wording

I'm having a little technical issue.

Similar wording

I may have to stop sharing and reboot this, Mr. Chair.

Similar wording

That's fine.

Similar wording

Go ahead.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Technology is great until it doesn't work, right?

Similar wording

Just give me one moment.

Similar wording

i'm sorry for the delay mr tim kerner is the architect he is in the audience if he

Similar wording

could be recognized, I do believe he has the plans up, and he could share them with you while I work

Similar wording

on my technical issues. That's fine. You'll do the testimony, right? Yes, of course. Sure. Could we

Similar wording

please recognize him? Mr. Kerner, if you're in the virtual audience, can you please raise your hand?

Similar wording

He's coming back in as a panelist now. Thank you.

Similar wording

Good morning, sir.

Similar wording

Good morning.

Similar wording

am i yes can you hear me now so so here i don't have to swear you in because you're not going to

Similar wording

testify could you just put the plans up uh yes i didn't have them up on my screen i'm just i just

Similar wording

need to get them just a moment thank you tim sure i think i'm having some technical issue today

Similar wording

can you see that now mr chair yeah we're good all right this these are mine i just rebooted

Similar wording

and try to get tim stay with us okay because you're gonna you're gonna be walking everybody

Similar wording

through the uh the new structure so this is the property in question as indicated by the round

Similar wording

circle this is the pictures of the deck as it currently exists and you can see the lower right

Similar wording

hand side the dangerous uh outdoor staircase that's being demolished this is the subject

Similar wording

property here where my cursor is. As you can see, this is where the structure would be and there's

Similar wording

going to be also a shade element attached to that structure so that folks can access the

Similar wording

roof deck from the interior of the property instead of the way it was. It is set back

Similar wording

so that you cannot see it from the north elevation, from the sidewalk.

Similar wording

But from the rear, as you can see, it looks like part of the actual house itself when in fact it is not.

Similar wording

it looks like part of the actual house itself when in fact it is not and that's the only reason why

Similar wording

And that's the only reason.

Similar wording

we have this refusal if this access structure was put in the center or towards the front of the

Similar wording

house it would be able to be done as a matter of right but the fact of the matter is the property

Similar wording

is not very deep putting the access structure anywhere but in this corner would render the roof

Similar wording

deck um just useless so and tim do you want to talk about uh some of this while i scroll through

Similar wording

uh sure let me swear him in please okay state your name and spell for the court reporter

Similar wording

timothy kerner t-i-m-o-t-h-y kerner k-e-r-n-e-r do you swear for him to tell the truth the whole

Similar wording

truth nothing but the truth yes i do proceed please okay i guess vern if you just maybe back

Similar wording

up to the photographs and we could just point out the stair i guess i just wanted to point out on

Similar wording

the right right the top right hand side you can see if you're looking to the left of the structure

Similar wording

in the alleyway you see that's the stair that we'd be taking off it's deteriorating it's and

Similar wording

you can see just below it the the state of that stair to the left of that you can the left two

Similar wording

pictures, you can see the state of the roof deck currently, which is also deteriorating. And then

Similar wording

to the far left, the corner, what you're looking at is the back of the structure, which was built

Similar wording

next to it. The dark structure is a new building, multifamily building. And then the gray and tan

Similar wording

structure is the existing house. So the lower two floors are in stucco. Above that is an existing

Similar wording

I guess it's a vinyl plaid structure, which is the existing master bedroom and a balcony.

Similar wording

So if you could just remember those images as we move forward to compare to the new project,

Similar wording

which we're proposing. So here on the site plan in the L configuration, the top right corner of

Similar wording

the dark rectangle, that is the stair. So we are making the pilot house as small as possible,

Similar wording

which just enclosing the stair itself.

Similar wording

The reason it works best in that location are a few different reasons.

Similar wording

One, the stairs that are in the existing stairs are directly below it.

Similar wording

And within a small house, if you're going to have a stair,

Similar wording

a new stair up to the roof inside,

Similar wording

it really has to be over the existing stairway,

Similar wording

or you're just taking space away from what are already pretty small rooms.

Similar wording

So it's in that corner, but that corner is also,

Similar wording

least obtrusive. It's set all the way back, it's far back from the street, so it's out of view from

Similar wording

the street and also away from the roof decks on the new structures, which are directly on the

Similar wording

bottom. So that rectangle, which the cursor is on now, is new structure, and the rectangle to the

Similar wording

left of that is a new structure. Those are new multifamily units that were just built within the

Similar wording

last couple of years just finished recently and they're taller than what we are proposing they're

Similar wording

basically surrounding this building um we're just trying to get a little a little bit of a light up

Similar wording

above but you can see in this picture that their roof deck is higher than the roof deck we're

Similar wording

proposing um and as verne said if our pilot house structure was in the center of our roof deck

Similar wording

even though it'd be more of an imposition upon the street it would be by right but

Similar wording

just because we're pushing as far away from the street as possible and making sense of both the

Similar wording

roof deck and the space below we're getting the um we need to ask for a variance uh and then here

Similar wording

you see the section it's just showing the existing roof and how we're getting up and the stairs going

Similar wording

over the existing stairs and everything pushed to the rear and if you go forward vern yep and this

Similar wording

is just showing how the the new stairs up to the deck fit over the existing stairs which are

Similar wording

well in line with the existing stairs I should say they go they go directly up into the hallway

Similar wording

and then these are the three-dimensional elements so top left you can see how the

Similar wording

from the street view the pilot house is pushed all the way back so you can't see it from the

Similar wording

front you see that on the right side as well uh and on the far right side you see the three

Similar wording

dimensional view of the pilot house enclosure and the trellis in front of that and then on the

Similar wording

bottom left you see that that's the existing balcony and then our our uh stairwell is going

Similar wording

up above that existing balcony and then that picture to the right of that the cursor is on

Similar wording

now just showing you the overall view from above uh where you see the pilot house and the trellis

Similar wording

uh where you see the pilot house and the trellis again set back these are current conditions

Similar wording

again, sit back.

Similar wording

there's the deed there's a letter of uh support um not non-opposition but full full support from

Similar wording

everybody in attendance uh at the sasna zoning committee all 12 folks in attendance

Similar wording

voted to support this it below here's proof of mailing 144 individual households were in fact

Similar wording

invited and of course we had the tax clearance because the property is not very deep because we

Similar wording

wanted to make sure that any stair access structure was a far away from the sidewalk as possible so

Similar wording

not to be seen from bypassers by and because the roof deck itself would be rendered useless if we

Similar wording

were to move it we respectfully request that this appeal be granted you want to have your

Similar wording

testimony adopted by i do if lisa flaherty could please raise her hand

Similar wording

Ms. Flaherty can you please raise your hand you can unmute yourself and wait for the chair

Similar wording

Hi could you please state your name and spell for the court reporter

Similar wording

Lisa Flaherty L-I-S-A my last name is F as in Frank

Similar wording

L-A-H-E-R-T-Y. Thank you. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but

Similar wording

the truth? Yes, I do. Proceed, counsel. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Ms. Flirty, have you heard my

Similar wording

presentation to the board this morning? I did. And is it true and accurate to the best of your

Similar wording

knowledge? Yes, it is. And do you adopt it as your own testimony? I do. Thank you. Mr. Chair,

Similar wording

i have nothing else all right questions from the board no mr chairman chair no mr chairman

Similar wording

questions or comments from the virtual audience

Similar wording

chair i see no hands at this time planning commission thank you sir david facto city

Similar wording

planning commission mr chairman and members of the board the comprehensive plan recommends no

Similar wording

change to the residential multi-family zoning at this location this is a 600 square foot lot

Similar wording

It is unusually small in the context of this block, where lot sizes range from approximately 930 to 1,400 square feet.

Similar wording

So we would argue that the applicant has met their burden of proof that there is a unique physical condition of the lot that would require relief from the zoning board.

Similar wording

So the City Planning Commission recommends the board grant the dimensional variances.

Similar wording

Thank you. MI 2022-001-685-1838 Bainbridge Street, I vote yes.

Similar wording

james snell my vote is yes yes no shaheed my vote is yes thank you thank you

Similar wording

case number nine

Similar wording

MI-2022-001-687-3725 Mt. Vernon Street.

Similar wording

Meredith Verlegger is the attorney.

Similar wording

Recommendation of support from the Mantua Civic Association.

Similar wording

chair she's coming back in as a panelist now thank you good morning mr chairman hi good

Similar wording

morning could you state your name please and spell for the court reporter sure my name is

Similar wording

meredith ferliger f-e-r-l-e-g-e-r of delworth paxton 1500 market street suite 3500 e you

Similar wording

Do you swear a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

I sure do.

Similar wording

Could you identify your client in a relationship to the property?

Similar wording

Sure.

Similar wording

My client is 42nd Market Associates, LLC, which is the owner of the property, and that entity is represented by Brahim and Gladen.

Similar wording

Our board secretary has a few questions.

Similar wording

Good morning, counsel.

Similar wording

Good morning.

Similar wording

Okay. Do you agree to waive the reading and the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

Similar wording

I agree to waive the reading and I mostly stipulate to the accuracy. The refusal itself

Similar wording

and the description of the property are correct. However, the notes to the zoning board that are

Similar wording

included within that refusal are not specific to this property. I don't know where the examiner

Similar wording

came up with them, but you'll see in my presentation that those notes do not apply

Similar wording

came up with them but you'll see in my presentation that those notes do not apply to this property.

Similar wording

of this property.

Similar wording

Fair enough. Did you email the exhibits in all the documents that were required

Similar wording

such as the proof of ownership tax clearance copy of refusal or referral pictures or drawings of

Similar wording

the property within five days of this hearing and did you meet with the RCO and do you have a letter?

Similar wording

yes to all of the above there's a letter of support from mantua civic association in the packet

Similar wording

okay please proceed to share your screen thank you all right good morning board uh

Similar wording

the property before the board today is 3725 mount vernon street which is a large over seven 7100

Similar wording

square foot property that is just off the corner. Let me change the view here so you can see this a

Similar wording

little better. That is just off the corner of Mount Vernon Street and North 38th Street. And I will

Similar wording

bring up the map for you to see this. The exhibit packet in front of you today includes 18 exhibits

Similar wording

that I will walk you through, starting first with a basic property overview. As you can see here in

Similar wording

the aerials at Exhibit 10, this property sits along a predominantly unoccupied stretch of

Similar wording

Mount Vernon Street between 37th Street and North 38th Street. This mostly vacant block includes a

Similar wording

few existing structures as well as a public park at the corner of North 37th Street.

Similar wording

Now turning back to the zoning map here at Exhibit 9, you'll see that this property is zoned RSA 5.

Similar wording

Notably, this block is circled by RM1 multifamily zoning, as well as CMX2 zoning, just one block down Mount Vernon, as well as the special purpose park-related zoning classification for the Mantua Park.

Similar wording

Now, this block was one of the many blocks that was previously zoned RM1 prior to the 2017 Mantua rezoning, which I did include for reference in the packet at Exhibit 4.

Similar wording

Now, if we look more closely at the photographs at exhibit 18, as I scroll through, you'll note the relative condition of the existing structures on this block, such as the one in this photo across the street, whose use I was not able to determine through public records.

Similar wording

it's a bit unclear to me whether this is a residence, a multifamily residence, or a legally

Similar wording

occupied structure. The next photo is just looking across the street from the property,

Similar wording

and this is looking north towards North 38th Street. And then in this photograph, you can

Similar wording

get a little bit of a better sense of the property that's before the board today. This is looking

Similar wording

from North 38th Street. Now, historically speaking, the last remaining structure that

Similar wording

ever existed on this property was demolished back in 1937. So, at Exhibit 14, I have included

Similar wording

I'm sorry, my bookmark seemed to have disappeared.

Similar wording

So at Exhibit 14, you will see here evidence of when that last structure was demolished back in 1937.

Similar wording

Prior to that, the property was used as the Mantua Primary School from the late 1800s.

Similar wording

I did also include some historical maps, which are really kind of neat to look at, but do

Similar wording

paint a pretty interesting picture here that shows that once the building was demolished,

Similar wording

you can see here the mansion was schooled back in 1895. And then by 1942, it looks like this

Similar wording

property was used as a playground. But by the late 90s, if not earlier, the property itself had

Similar wording

become unused. And you can see here, this is an image from 1996. Presumably, the playground here

Similar wording

became unused once the Mantua playground was built down the street. Eventually, the prior owner of

Similar wording

the property, which was the church congregation just across North 38th Street, turned the lot

Similar wording