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ZBA Hearing - October 9, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 9, 20247h 34m

The Civic Design Review's committee advisory recommendations

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are not an expression of the City Planning Commission's recommendations

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or opinion regarding zoning variances, special exemptions,

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or other discretionary approvals associated with this proposal the comprehensive plan recommends

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a change in zoning at this location from the existing medium industrial i2 to residential

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industrial mixed use irmx under the proposed zoning the requested uses would be allowed by right

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we also note to the board that absent participation in a city state or federal program or city zoning

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initiative affordability mentioned in the palace testimony cannot be enforced by any city agency

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The City Planning Commission recommends that the board grant the request of variance for multifamily household living and for balconies.

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Council, we've had a lot of testimony.

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I'm going to take this to our executive session two weeks from today, and we will vote on it at 930 a.m.

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Okay?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I think we have one more case that we have to go back.

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Number seven, MI 2023-005-953-5646, Teter Avenue, Berna Adji.

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Do we see any hands?

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Yes, Chair.

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Berna Adji is coming in as a penalist.

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I also see Attorney George Gossett.

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i don't know if he's the one who's actually giving the presentation this is verna verna do you have

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This is Verna.

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Verna, do you have an attorney?

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an attorney

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Yes, he should be on the line, Attorney Gossett.

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All right, all right.

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I'll get back to Mr. Gossett.

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Can you hear me?

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I can.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer?

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Sure.

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So my name is George Gossett, G-O-S-S-E-T-T.

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Attorney ID number is 82983.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you please turn your video?

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Oh, there you go.

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There you go.

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There I am.

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And Verna Aji is your client?

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That's correct.

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There's a letter of support from the West Philadelphia Economic Development Council.

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There's a letter of support from the generationalist of Philadelphia, and Councilmember Gauthier is in non-opposition.

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Okay.

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Do you stipulate to the reading of the refusal and you agree with its accuracy?

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I do.

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Please proceed and share your screen, sir.

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Certainly. So thank you. So this is my.

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I'm sorry we're so long, but when I called her earlier, I had a hard time getting her in.

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I understand these things happen.

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My client is the Motivated Community Resource Center.

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Verna Aggie is the CEO of the community center.

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This is a variant asking to use a row home, as it currently is right now, as a community center.

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Let me share with you just some quick pictures so you can get an idea as to what we're talking about.

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I do apologize.

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In the processing, the pictures came across upside down.

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And I think you may already have copies of the picture.

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But this first one that I'm sharing right now is the community, sort of a community classroom where they do after-school work with children.

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They also have community meetings there.

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Is it sharing?

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I can't see anything.

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He didn't do it yet.

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I'm sorry, can you see it?

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George, you're not up yet.

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Oh, okay.

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I'm sorry.

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Let me see.

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You should bring your documents up, then hit the green share screen.

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All right.

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Let me see here.

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Okay.

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So you're saying bring the document up.

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Usually you bring your documents up, then you push the share screen button on the bottom.

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All right.

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This is my first time doing it.

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Okay, I see it here.

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Okay.

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Share screen.

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Got you.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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Yeah, you're coming up now, George.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thanks for your patience.

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okay so that would be the picture of the uh classroom community work yep all right but you

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gotta it's not coming up we see where it says but we need to see the photo so you gotta tap on that

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and bring it up am i right yes so you're just sharing your um document screen you would have

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to stop sharing and then reshare.

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All right.

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Instead of hitting documents,

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just hit on share screen.

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Okay.

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We're a tech person here.

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Sorry.

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Yes, I am.

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I think he's better.

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We're good.

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We're good.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So that's upside down, you're saying, right?

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that's the upside down classroom that's sort of the community room um i'm also going to share

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with you a picture of the front of the house if you need to see that with the actual zoning sticker

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is it possible to turn this photo right side up let me see you see if you see right next

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right there yeah there you go all righty okay so as i stated before it's a it's a um 1500 square

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foot, 1,600 square foot row home that has been being used as a community center. That

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is a small, that is the small community room, general purpose room, where they do after

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school work and they also have community meetings there. All right. I'm going to show you another

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picture of just the front of the building so you can see the

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So you can see the front of the building along with the zoning sticker.

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Yep.

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Right.

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is that showing up yeah could you turn that one too please yes sir

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okay so that's the turn and hit it again

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there we go

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and how long have they had this project this property for this use i believe this is the

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third year. They've just signed for a new lease, but I will bring my client on

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at the end of my presentation just to clarify, but I know that they have in fact signed a new lease

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to continue on this, to continue with this.

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You want to bring your client on?

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Sure.

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i'm here can you hear me yeah hi could you please state your name and spell for the course

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that is verna aggie v-e-r-n-a-a-g-g-i-e where or firm to tell the truth the whole truth and

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nothing but the truth yes all right please proceed counsel ms aggie how long have you

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been uh operating at this at this um location about three years we've been operating for about

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three years all right and you have can you describe very briefly just the services that you

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offer we provide community resources to the west philadelphia area we provide workshops um

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workshop senior cooking classes senior classes for youth and also cooking classes for children

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We have bingo classes for the senior.

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We also distribute food to the community on a Saturday.

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We feed about 150 people in the community on Saturday.

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And we also provide events during the year, such as we're getting ready for our Holiday of Hope next month.

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I'm sorry, that's in December, where we are giving out 350 coats to the children.

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And we're feeding the families food, a catered meal.

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It's going to be a really nice event.

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And next month for Thanksgiving, our goal that we're working on is to feed 500 families, turkeys, and all the trimmings.

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And that's going to be all held at the Christie Recreation Center.

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So our goal is to continue to be able to provide resources in this West Philadelphia area.

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And do you partner up with various other groups within the community?

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Yes.

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We have a partnership with University of Pennsylvania.

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We have a partnership with Philly Lift. That's part of the city of Philadelphia government agency.

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We also have partnerships with local churches, Abiding Truth Ministries.

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We have a new partnership with the Corner Grocer, who's also working to provide fresh vegetables and produce and a new way of eating in the West Philadelphia area.

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So we have quite a bit of partnerships in this area.

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Can the members of the ZBA, can you see the actual zoning snippet?

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I see. Yep, I see.

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Okay. I want to direct your attention, Ms. Aggie, to September 30th.

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Was there a community meeting held at that time?

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Yes, absolutely. It was held. We had a great meeting.

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Everyone was for what we do, loving what we do,

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and to let us all share that they are 100% on board

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and love the work that we do in this area.

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Okay.

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And I believe that the ZBA,

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you already have copies of those actual letters from RCOs.

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We do.

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We do.

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Would you have your client adopt your testimony from earlier?

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Yes.

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Will you adopt my testimony?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Is there anything that you would like to add or any further explanation you'd like to give?

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No, everything is good.

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Thank you so much.

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Okay.

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Questions from the board.

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I have a question.

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Does the community center operate on the second floor as well?

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No.

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We have storage rooms up there, and we only operate on the first main floor.

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The questions?

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the questions what's the what's the hours of operations we're here from 8 a.m to 4 o'clock

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What's the hours of operations?

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in the afternoon no after no after school stuff well we have uh students that come in from

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families who homeschool their children and they come in in the afternoons to do some work with us

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Now, right now, we're looking to provide a structure after school program from three to six, but that's also still in the works.

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Questions from the board?

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Yes. Question. Yeah. The signs, are they on this permit?

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Yes. If you look at the picture that he showed of the front of the building, you'll see our sign.

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That's hanging up above on a porch that says Motivated Community Resource Center.

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No, no.

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What I mean is, is this on this permit application?

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Did you ask the sign?

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No, I sure not.

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That's just a temporary.

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That's not a permanent attached sign.

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It's just basically just that has information on it.

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Yes, that's correct.

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Are you planning to have a sign here?

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Just the one we like, which is we don't want no permanent signs, just something that we can just put up to let the community know the location.

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So right now it's a cloth banner, like a mesh banner.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Other questions from the board?

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Questions or comments from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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