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ZBA Hearing - March 4, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 4, 20268h 6m

laundry, or everything in that kind of way. So how many people are you looking to?

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Three people. It's a three-day. All right. So start your presentation, what the house looks

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like, what your plans are. And I see you have a couple of the certificates there too. So why

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Okay, I had obtained my personal care license, personal care home administrator's license. We had needed to have 100 hours in order to be in order to operate the business.

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and in order to operate the biz um sorry guys i'm so sorry in order to operate we had to

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um sorry guys I'm so

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um do 100 hours and complete a test to pass the test for our certification for our personal care

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home okay um that's the the test stating them this is the picture of the test certificate

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it saying that i passed it for my administrator's license okay um okay so now i'm gonna be showing

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you the pictures of the house um this is the kitchen um one second i'm trying to get it um

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this is the back of the house um jesus um this is the bathroom

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where they'll be using you know showers and everything in there

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um this is the hallway how many bedrooms do you have three bedrooms i'm sorry it's a three

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bedroom house so you'll put one in each room okay um that is the middle room

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That's the middle room closet. Um, that is the back room and how many bathrooms do you have upstairs? 1? Okay. And do you have anything downstairs? Um, on the 1st floor? No, there's no bathroom. 1st floor. Okay.

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I'm sorry, trying to get to these.

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Um, that's still the back room, back room closet space. They'll have, um, that's the carbon monoxide detectors.

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That is the back room, so the back room closet space, back room storage room, I mean front

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room, I'm sorry.

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This is the downstairs.

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there's um this is the dining room um the front of the house

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oh that was the date that i had um put this on and post the boards up post the board

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um sorry

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yep i like kind of had everything yeah we have we have that all that okay you have all that okay

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let me go back to pictures have you done this before no my first time and i'm like kind of

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nervous i'm sorry but no no no not not i mean oh yes i've been a certified cna i've been a certified

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cna for over 20 years i've been caring for people and doing this all my life this is my passion um

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god yes i have a lot of experience sir oh good good yeah not this experience this don't count

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Okay. Okay. Okay. These are my certificate of mailings. You guys have all of this. And you'll have somebody there 24 hours a day. Yes. 24 hour care. Yes, sir. Right.

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This would do what I'm trying to get to the rest of the picture. Sure. So I, I, we know all the mailings. Yeah. We're good with the mailings. Okay.

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So, this is the backyard, so this is the central air unit that I have in the house, this is the yard, this is where I will store my trash, backyard, this is the, you know, the alleyway, the gates, the fence, and this is the basement, that is the front of the basement.

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now i just got storage down there um this would be where my washing machine and dryer hookup would

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be um this is the you know the hot water tank and the um heating system um that's the back of the

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basement the side once again the front that's my circuit breaker box you won't live here well i

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won't live here no but i will be there all the time but when it comes to yeah yeah i won't reside

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there um that's the front that is the that will be the living room area it won't look like this

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when i get everything in um this is the you know that's still the upstairs yeah i'm done with the

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um this is the you know that's still the upstairs yeah i'm done with the pictures as of now so um

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picture

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where will you get your clients um i have oh god so many resources um adult daycares um

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adult daycares the hospitals nursing homes as of now i have people just waiting to like come

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questions from the board any questions is where's your staff is there like office space or

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a space for the staff okay um for right now they'll be placed in the dining room i'll have

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an area for them with a desk you know a little desk little chair for them as of right now

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who are you gonna have providing services for the president um it will kind of service okay it will

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be me i'll be providing um the meals um as of right now i can't really afford to hire anybody

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so it's going to be me like mainly doing everything okay and i mean in terms of you said that this is

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going to be uh support services for the residences residents so what are we talking about are we

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talking about employment counseling are we talking about uh medications or what do we

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okay um employment counseling i have outreach programs that'll be coming in helping me out with

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that um so about it right now so when it comes to medication reminders i'll be the one reminding

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them about their medications um so will these will these folks be there 24 hours a day overnight

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it'll be their permanent residence for now um i will have the option they will have the option

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if they want to go to adult daycare during the day you know to um you know to articulate with the

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other here so that means you will be there 24 hours a day as of right now yeah yeah

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and so where were you where will you so if you're there 24 hours a day you've got to sleep sometime

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so how does that work i have a second i have a second backup person at cna as well

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how many how many people do you plan to have um how many people do you plan to have

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three okay three and what age are we 55 and up oh okay 55 and up aarp and the neighbors um were

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your immediate neighbors uh have you spoken with them about it yes they gave me they gave me the

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they don't have a problem. We don't have nothing like this in my community. I will be the first

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person that will be doing something like this. And I see it going pretty good. And it will give

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like other people that need this help and services, it'll give them a chance too. So hopefully I'll

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be doing a major impact in my community with personal care homes.

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So question for, I guess, Hillary, if she's going to have three persons, then does it need to be zoned?

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You understand?

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Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying.

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No, technically, yeah, you can have up to three unrelated people living in a property and it's still considered single family.

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um so if if the special exception was granted and assuming you met state and city requirements in

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terms of occupancy technically you could have more than three with with a special exception

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but without the special exception you you could have three by right

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okay um questions or comments for our attorney

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okay not at this time um questions or comments from the virtual audience

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no hands um

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um planning commission amy boy with the planning commission the comprehensive plan recommends no

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change in zoning at this location from the existing rsa 5 residential single family

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The appellant has demonstrated that the proposed use will not cause detrimental impacts beyond what would reasonably be expected.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the Board grant their requested special exception for personal care home.

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MI 2025-005-405-3936 North Darien Street.

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I vote yes for a temporary variance that expires 3-5.

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i vote yes for a temporary variance that expires 3529. um my vote is yes with i'll tell you when

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they're done my michael johns my vote is yes with proviso cheryl gaston my vote is yes with proviso

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tennetta graham my vote is yes with proviso ryan mcadams my vote is yes with proviso

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well you want to explain to yeah so they so they've approved the use but it's for a specific

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period of time so if you're still you want to use the property beyond that time for the use

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you just need to come back here and get additional approval okay so it's three years three years okay

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so on 29 okay yeah okay good luck thank you

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number two MI 2025 001-543-5260 Caster Avenue D'Angelo McElhatton is the attorney

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there's a letter of support from Northwood Civic Association a letter of non-opposition

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from Council Member Lozano

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good afternoon mr chair daniel michael hadn't here sure could you for just for the record

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could you state your name is bill for this denarii certainly sir daniel d-a-n-i-e-l-p

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McElhatton, M-C, capital E-L-H-A-T-T-O-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do, sir.

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Do you identify your client, a relationship to the property?

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Yes, my client is Yannick Nobrun, N-O-B-R-U-N, and she is the managing member of the K-Stancia

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Investments, LLC.

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see the name is an amalgam of her two children stanley and uh dylancia and she is a participant

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today all right okay and our our vice chair has just a few questions good evening have you have

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you um some of your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing yes with one

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exception and that was when we attempted to submit the tax clearance certificate it was rejected at

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end of last week we communicated with um the board and some supplied the receipts that were given

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when the taxes were paid well before last week and uh also um we were advised that that would be

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sufficient okay and do you wave the read another refusal and stipulate to his accuracy i do all

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All right, thank you. Can you see your screen and proceed with the case? Okay.

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It's coming up, sir. I hope the right stuff is coming up.

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Let me see.

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Give me a moment, Ms. Deb.

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Sure.

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I will start if while I'm trying to secure the documents where we just don't see.

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Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, as I say, maybe you should stop sharing and then go back in and then share again and just indicate the screen that you want to share instead of your home. Okay.

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it like froze up for me

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yeah i'm not seeing him he's he's out now he's got to come back in

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I'll get back with this, I want to get back.

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here, so I want to give them back.

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Mr. McElhatton?

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Why don't we do this? We'll come back to him, okay? Let's move on to Zen Jin, and then we'll check back after that, okay?

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So, number four, MI 2025-005-494-2719 Federal Street. Zen Jin is the attorney.

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good evening okay council could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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yes my name is zen jen z-h-e-n last name j-i-n here on behalf of the applicant all right do you

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do could you identify your client a relationship to the property

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yes uh my client is the owner of the property uh miss ding d-i-n-g

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mm-hmm and there's a letter of support from residents organized for advocacy and direction

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um the rco is signed listed as grace ferry coalition of neighbors

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and our our vice chair has a few questions good evening have you submitted your documents and

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exhibits five days in advance of this hearing yes and do you waive the read know the refusal

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and stipulate to its accuracy i do i proceed with your case thank you i'm going to put on the screen

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the previously submitted exhibit it should be coming up can the board see my exhibit on this

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thank you so this is an application for the use of a property at 2719 federal street as a single

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family dwelling for household living. This property is located in a I-2 industrial district

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and therefore the use itself is not permitted. However, this is a unique property in that

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it is located, despite being in a I-2 district, is located in a residential block within that

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i2 district and as a result of its specific location and its existing conditions which also

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clearly shows that it is a residential property with the neighboring properties being residential

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as well the neighborhood did not have any objection to our proposed use the location

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of this particular property is very near grace fair ferry avenue which has a lot of industrial

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type uses across the street from this property there are garages but as the board can see in

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the photos while these may be somewhat industrial in nature they're not really full industrial uses

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and there are other residents also near this particular property my client wants to renovate

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the existing building and put it back to use as a single family dwelling and that is essentially the

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proposal the hardship here again is the pre-existing non-conforming condition

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as well as the surrounding uses not conforming with the zoning district

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the proposed plan shows that we are keeping the facade basically refreshing the property

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the layout on the interior is very straightforward first floor second floor a

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third floor and the basement it's a half basement used for storaging utility only entry on the first

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floor living room kitchen then with bedrooms and master bedroom reading area and master bath

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taking up the entire third floor plan again with the unique history of this property being a

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residential building also the neighboring uses we would submit that there is a hardship here and that

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we would ask the board to find favorably in this particular request for use as a single family

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dwelling. My client should be here and should be able to verify my testimony. I'm happy to answer

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any questions from the board. Excuse me, what's your client's name? Ms. Ding, D-I-N-G, should be

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The last name, first name is W-A-N-H-U-I.

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uh h-a-n-h-u-i

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okay

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so did you put on a rear addition uh there is a uh i'm going to go back to the plan yeah just if

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you would why don't you show us what the addition is i think that would sure sure on the plans uh

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so it's not so much a rear addition i think it's to square off it's essentially squaring off

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the uh this is the space and this is the rear yard it's not really there's really no proposal

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for an addition here um as you can see it's basically the existing footprint of the building

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this is actually a rear yard not an addition okay yeah i mean it'll do is that wrong with hillary

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what we have when you say squaring off do you mean like there's a set the three floors will be the

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same uh uh setbacks from the back of the property yeah which one is more set back now i believe the

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third floor is okay so that's where the addition is on the third floor yeah so it would be yeah

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the squaring off up here of the upper floor all right let's see if we get your client on sure

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let's see if i can i have water here i see miss dane's name will be with you in a few minutes

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don't know how i can do this all right dan dan why don't you go back out a minute because you

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we're we got a case we're hearing we'll come back that's perfect sir thank you i'm sorry i will no

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no that's not a problem because then yeah i i do see uh miss dean's name shown as one of the

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panelists now d-i-n-g she's right there yeah i don't know if she can unmute yeah oh she is there

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she's just muted i'm sorry hi could you please state your name is spelled for the stenographer

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My name is Wang Hui Ding.

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And could you spell it, please?

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W-A-N-H-U-I-D-I-N-G.

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Thank you.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Counsel.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Ding, did you hear my testimony before the zoning board, and did you see my presentation before the zoning board?

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Sorry, my English is not good.

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您看到没看到我刚才给Zoning Board的看的东西和说的话,听到没听到说的话?

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我看到了,我听到你们讲话,但我听不懂。

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So can you verify that yes, you did hear and see everything I presented?

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Yes, I hear.

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Great. Now, would you be willing to accept what I have said as your own testimony, everything that you would have said to the Zoning Board?

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yes yes yes okay thank you all right thank you thanks um zing thank you very much questions from

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the board just real quick then how big is the backyard oh it's pretty large i think um

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let me see if there were measures so the property line is 76 foot and it takes up almost half

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um almost a little less than half of the total square footage because the building itself is

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only um 15 i think the building itself is only about 40 less than 40 foot deep okay based on

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measurements yeah thank you any other questions from the board questions from our attorney

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hillary emerson um just to clarify because i i didn't see it in your packet um you did do a

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mailing to the neighbors yes correct and and did who was the rco that organized the meetings i know

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sometimes down in grays ferry that the one gets assigned but sometimes the other another one

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actually does the meeting so the actual meeting was organized by uh miss mika outlaw from uh

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yeah from road correct okay all right thank you all right questions or comments from the virtual

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audience no planning commission amy boyd with the planning commission the comprehensive plan

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recommends a change in zoning at this location from the i2 medium industrial to rsa 5 residential

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