to that is um possibly not in use and um putting a 27 unit apartment building at 3216 would create
the precedent of large apartment buildings spreading from allegheny avenue to chairman i'd
like to object to that as speculative that's that's all speculation the board hears each case
and makes decisions on an individual basis okay there's a there's a daily permit in a daily
permit record there's a permit that's been issued for demolition of 3220 so therefore i also would
strike any testimony as we don't i don't have any information about just just assuming there
is a demolition permit that doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to whatever that gets
proposed to be put in place of that church will be approved you know that adrian you've been
around long enough please i i didn't say that i said that that space being torn being demolished
proposed to be demolished and having a 27 unit apartment building next door would create a
precedent to i just answered i just answered that we adrian i just answered that we look at each
case on an individual basis i understand that but i'm speaking to precedent which i have a right to
do okay okay okay all right all right what else who's next just add for the record mr chairman
that we did um do two rco meetings and um this organization and um uh the one that miss russell
is a part of were not at either of those meetings they did email me saying they couldn't get into
the meeting but the meeting they tried to get into was the zba meeting and they did they use
the incorrect uh link so i just want to add that all right miss russell
One second, Chair. But we have Mr. Charles Richardson on the line.
Thank you. Mr. Richardson.
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair.
Good afternoon, sir. Just identify yourself. You're still under oath from earlier today.
Charles Richardson, Office of Councilwoman Cindy Bass, room 312 City Hall.
Please proceed.
Just wanted to say that Councilwoman has no opposition to granting this variance.
Thank you very much.
All right.
Anyone else to testify in this case?
Chair, did you still need Ms. Russell?
Well, she yielded to the swamp poodle.
I suspect she still has something she wants to say.
Pardon me.
Something new and different.
Ms. Russell, you can unmute yourself.
Thank you.
are you still there
any questions from the board can i just add for the record mr chair that based on her prior
testimony her address is 1630 on west susquehanna which is over a mile away from this property
planning commission
i'm bednar city planning uh this property is indicated for residential use on a city plan
based on our recommended district plan remapping proposal we have no objection to the granting
events. Thank you very much. MI 2020-0032573216 North 16th Street. My vote is yes. Were there
revised plans? There are. There are two pages. Two pages with proviso. Two pages approved today.
My vote is yes with proviso. Yes with proviso. Yes with proviso. Yes with proviso.
so thank you uh that concludes the two o'clock list uh what time is it that's um we'll take
a 10 minute break get back around four o'clock and we'll go into the 3 30 okay okay thank
you thank you everybody appreciate your time yes we are live and you are recording
do you need any time no chair we ready when you are hey thank you good afternoon everyone my name
is frank t chico i'm the chair of the zoning board of adjustment i'll be participating in today's
hearing along with our vice chair miss carol tenere board secretary confessor plaza and board
members mr thomas holloman and mr james snell board administrator miss lakeisha dandy and our
board attorney Ms. Sharon Saleta are also in attendance. For those of you who haven't yet
participated in one of our virtual hearings, I'll go through some of the basics of what you can
expect. First, we will be administering oaths to individual participants prior to their testimony.
Second, we'd like to advise everyone that this proceeding is being recorded and that by
participating you acknowledge your agreement to be recorded and that this recording will be
available to the public on the web or otherwise. Third, for anyone participating by phone,
if you wish to testify, you must raise your hand by hitting star 9 and then star 6 to unmute
yourself. I'll repeat, for anyone participating by phone, if you wish to testify, you must raise
your hand by hitting star 9 and then star 6 to unmute yourself. Finally, to make an appearance
statement call google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address and the address of the property at
issue i will repeat to enter an appearance statement call google 267-270-5548 and leave
your email address and the address of the property and i would also like to remind everyone please
Please do not attempt to testify in the chat.
Any comments should be directed to our Board Administrator, Ms. Dandy.
With that, I will now read off a list of continuance for the 330 list, MI 2020-002603.
That's number one on our list, 100 East Allegheny Avenue, request for continuance.
also request for continuance for number five on our list MI 2020-002-605-2721 West Cabot Street
and I'll ask anyone if they object to those continuances to raise your hands at this time
no hands at this time chair
Thank you. I would now ask if anyone would like to request a continuance or withdrawal
to raise your hand please. Chair, I have Richard DeMarco. Mr. DeMarco you
can unmute yourself and speak to a continuance. Mr. DeMarco, good afternoon. Please identify
yourselves by your name and I'll swear you in. Good afternoon Mr. Chairman. Can you hear me okay?
Hi, we're here on the MI 2020-002683-3959 Lancaster Avenue.
I represent SAM Development, LLC, which is the neighboring...
I represent Sam Development, LLC, which is the neighboring property.
And you're asking for a continuance?
Asking for a continuance.
I can report that I spoke to the applicant's attorney, Sherman Toppin, yesterday.
You should probably promote him to a panelist as well.
He's the applicant's attorney.
I spoke to him yesterday.
uh to summarize the good news is he has agreed to the continuance and to a another rco meeting
my client was um unaware okay we we do have that from uh mr tober so that your okay will be
continued okay so that's that's fine i understand it is agreed to so um we wanted we do want to
state on the record, though, we do want to attend an RCO meeting, and I believe Sherman has agreed
to that. That's all, Mr. Chair. Very good. Thank you. So MI 2020-002583-3959 Lancaster Avenue is
continued. Any other requests for continuances or withdrawals? Yes, Chair. I have Mr. Allen.
Alan you can unmute yourself. All right thank you very much. Good afternoon. Please identify
yourself for the record first and last name. Yes good afternoon Mr. Chair and members of the board.
Alan Nockamson of Nockamson PC 123 South Broad Street Suite 1600 Philadelphia PA 19109.
We're in the firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth. I do Mr. Chair.
Thank you. Please proceed.
Yes, we are asking for continuance of 1713 Cybert Street.
Okay, that's number two on our list. MI 2020-002-607-1713. Cybert Street is continued.
Mr. Chair, we would ask that it must be heard. We've been trying to get in front of this
uh community group for some time and i just want to make sure that if we cannot
if we cannot get a community meeting by the next hearing it must be heard
so noted that case will must is continued must be heard thank you mr chair thank you
anyone else
oh man i lost everybody
no more names at this time chair okay uh carol i believe we go to number
three on our list calendar number 0085 1800 west ontario street
the owner is janet mcdaniel
she's coming in now as a panelist um miss janet you can unmute yourself
can you hear me
Miss McDaniel can you hear me? Yes I can hear you. Can you put your name and address on the record
and spell your last name please? Janet McDaniel M.C. D as in David A.N.I.E.L.
and your address 1100 Whitby Avenue Yadin Pennsylvania 19050 do you swear or affirm
to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes and have you emailed an exhibit packet with
the required documents they consist of proof of ownership tax compliance of refusal or referral
photos and or plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing and have you met with the
RCO and do you have a letter no I don't have a letter um is it yes is it yes to everything else
yes you've met with the RCO I met with the RCO twice um and I didn't meet with him a third time
they were not able to another hearing pardon me they wanted to postpone it because some people
were not able to make it to the uh last rco meeting we have to continue this
um excuse me chair she's had two meetings she has met with them twice
you're right she did say that yeah
you're right she did say that yeah apologize ma'am you said you met with them twice
Thank you.
yes and they were they were still asking for a third meeting yes why don't you tell us what
your uh talk to us about your application tell us where you are um you and by the way excuse me
you own this property right are you not are you an llc or a uh non-profit no neither one
okay so please proceed um i own the property at 1800 west ontario street i also own the property
at 1802 west ontario street um at the first rco meeting there was concern um the proposal
at the first rco meeting there was a proposal to um for six apartments and um i could leave
the space on the bottom for a commercial space i went back and we redid the application
um because if that was a concern for the rco i didn't want to have any objection the next time
so ma'am pardon the interruption do you have any exhibits you can share with us um let me see
which one what well some floor plans what the prop you know layout of what you're proposing
to do with the property uh yeah uh someone else is doing that he has that is that someone else on
It should be.
Excuse me, this is Sharon.
Patrick Jones is assisting her if he could present the exhibits.
Will he be able to raise his hand?
Well, he was on.
I'm not sure.
He was on.
He's coming in now as a panelist.
good afternoon chair members of the board my name is patrick jones p-a-t-r-i-c-k jones j-o-n-e-s
my address is 944 east rittenhouse street i am the uh expediter for the for the um the owner of the
building well the owner has to testify mr jones but do you have any exhibits you can put up while
she's speaking yes sir please do that thank you and do you swear well they swear and affirm to
tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.
Yes, sir.
Again, the owner, Ms. McDaniel,
she's the one who has to testify.
I understand.
So if you can get your exhibits up,
Ms. McDaniel, you can follow the exhibits
and briefly explain what it is
you're proposing.
Ms. McDaniel,
you can unmute yourself.
currently the property at 1800 West Ontario street is a single is zoned as a single family
um it had been vacant for a long time now I'm proposing to put a put four apartments two on
the second floor I mean I'm sorry on the third floor and one on the first two a two-bedroom
on the second floor and the two-bedroom on the first floor. Again, it would be helpful,
Mr. Jones, if someone could put up some exhibits. I shared my screen. I'm not sure
why you're not seeing it. Not coming up. We have nothing. I've shared my screen.
Mr. Jones, did you hear it go? Coming up now. Okay. Excuse me. This is Sharon. Can I say that
I did find a letter from Tioga
United, the coordinating RCO.
They said they did not reach an agreement
on the application and
are not taking any position.
Thank you.
Mr. Jones, we got
some of the floor plan, but we got
a lot of the other stuff, like
an index. So if you can
clean that up, that would be helpful.
Yes, sir.
how's that
slightly larger would be helpful
I can slide it around if you if you need me to so as she talks about each floor
I can slide it around to you that would be helpful thank you there were exhibits actually
submitted I'm not sure if you guys have it in front of you or not
The board does not, but our council does.
So, Ms. McDaniel, if you can continue. Thank you.
Okay. On the third floor, I'm proposing to put two one-bedroom apartments. On the second floor,
um two um no i'm sorry it's one uh bedroom i'm sorry two bedrooms on the second floor
and two bedrooms on the first floor so it will be a total of four apartments um
what's what's all like you said two on the first floor two no a two bedroom on the second floor
a two-bedroom on the first floor, two one-bedrooms on the third floor.
Oh, so it's six units altogether.
No, no, four units.
A two-bedroom on the second floor, two-bedroom on the first floor,
and two units on the third floor.
Oh, okay, the bedrooms as opposed to units.
Okay. So it's four units. That totals whatever it is, bedrooms, four bedrooms, six bedrooms, whatever.
All right. Do you have any photographs of the property?
Mr. Jones had the photographs.
Is there a rear yard?
Was it accessible for all tenants?