They didn't feel that there was sufficient space to prepare that.
One of the RCO members went in and did see the space.
And as you saw from the pictures, it is a tight space.
So having grocery and hot food seemed like it would be too much for the space.
So those were the things that came up for the community.
temporary hours of operation limiting the commercial use and no preparation of hot foods
uh mr francisco yes um you heard miss uh emerson uh any comments
yes um regarding the space uh industry standard states that a restaurant or a place selling hot
food that serves up to 30 people at a time uh requires at least 150 square footage of space
i currently in the area that i'm particularly um restricting for like the hot food preparation
has 195 square feet um and i and at this time i won't be serving up to you know more than 30 people
at a time so i definitely disagree with um um lady but um i think i have enough space um
i think i have enough space for the sinks the deep freezers the countertop space the dosal plate
the deep fryer. We're not going to be serving like to the mass, you know, we're not like a
McDonald's. I'm not comparing myself to them. I'm okay with the 9 p.m. closure. That's perfectly
I'm okay with the 9 p.m. closure. That's perfectly understood. And the trash pickup, I have that situated. Also, I'll be working with a company called Eden Green Energy, which is a waste management company based from Chester, whose primary focus is to properly dispose of used cooking oil for renewable energy.
understood.
there's considerable amount of provisos I'm trying to read through them now
all right any other questions from the board no
anyone else would like to testify in this case please raise your hand
chair this is Sharon Slutt if I can just for a minute note that
if you do approve this with provisos I have some concern that the floor plan that you would be
approving doesn't include it doesn't dimension the designated commercial space so if we could
request that a fully dimensioned copy of that be submitted please
let's all right anyone else like to testify in this case
no more hands at this time chair
planning commission good morning chair to chico ian hegarty for the philadelphia city planning
commission h-e-g-a-r-t-y we're in the firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth
yes sir i do please proceed thank you good morning chair members of the board um the
comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing rsa5 zoning at this site however given
the previous use of the building and this section of the building for commercial uses planning
commission recommends that the board grant the variance sorry um i'd like to have some a little
bit more time well you know what let's see i'm looking at the provisos that just been sent over
to me there's a considerable amount of them uh for the time being uh i would suggest that
the record be closed and the board will discuss this at next wednesday's executive session
this is sharon sletic could you close the record aside from the submission of a dimensioned copy
of the already submitted floor plan i'm sorry um miss pulis is that possible for you by next week
Yes, the record closed aside from resubmission of the floor plan with the required dimensions.
Okay. Thank you. So MI 2020-002561-100-02 West Ashdale. The record is closed. The board will
discuss and have a decision that next Wednesday's executive session.
okay good luck mi 2020-001209 1519 west denango street
could i state one thing on the record
sorry about that uh no you have a question i i wanted to state um uh a statement on the
provisos we have them there's a multitude of them and I want to be able to go through them
so we can evaluate what the provisos are and then vote on it that's why we're going to hold
this for executive session okay I just want to state that I'm perfectly okay with all the
provisos with the exception of we're going to review them sir and we'll get we'll make a decision
based on what we decide. Thank you.
Thank you.
Next case, Venango, MI 2020-001209, 1519 West Venango.
Hi, yes. Good morning, Chair and members of the board.
please identify yourself spell your first and last name hi yes my name is lijan lu l-i-j-i-o-n
last name is lu l-i-u we're in a firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth
yes thank you excuse me this is sharon saletta ms pulis is also the architect on this case i
believe i don't know whether she'll be presenting the exhibits but in case she needs to be promoted
again. He has been promoted. Sir, have you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents, proof of ownership?
Sir, have you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents, proof of ownership,
proof of tax compliance, copy of the refusal or referral, photos and plans five days prior
to this hearing?
Also, have you met with the RCO and have a letter?
Please proceed.
I would like to share my screen, please.
You can share.
Okay, share screen.
So we hear background talking or noise, is that you?
Yes, I believe. Sorry about that.
Alrighty, you can continue.
Okay, I have a vacant lot on Venango Street and we were proposing a multi-family three units
that's prohibited in a RSA 5 residential zoning.
With the three-unit multifamily, we are proposing three units.
The first unit will occupy the basement and the first floor and have three bedrooms.
uh the first unit one would have a square footage of um a 1774 square feet for the second unit it
would occupy the second floor and have two two bedrooms the square footage for that unit it's
about 805 square feet and excuse me sir excuse me excuse me sir do you have drawings can you show
some drawings? Yeah, my architect, Ms. Puglos, will have the drawings. Do you want to see them now?
Yes. Okay, Cheryl, can you? Yeah, I'll share my screen. Thank you. I think you have to
unshare your screen you can continue talking and i'll
yeah i can't really see my screen but uh okay so with the plans
oh sure can you um talk about um the the three units and how i guess how's how's that laid out
before the floor plan sure um so as john already started to describe there's three units
the first unit will occupy the basement and the first floor and there's three bedrooms
the second unit will just occupy the second floor with two units and the last unit will occupy the
third and fourth floor and we'll have three units with a small area roof deck and third and fourth
floor yes there's four floors what will be the overall height of this property let's see
the overall height is 37.4 so we're just under the max allowed and I have
elevations and a rendering I'll share though as John also said this is a
corner corner line so you get the first second third fourths and here is a rendering
Excuse me, could you tell me what percentage of the first floor, the basement is out of
the ground?
The basement is entirely below the ground but there's an egress access in the back for the bedroom.
You can see it right here.
Thank you.
You'd be walking in right into the first floor.
right into the first floor.
Isn't it required 50% out of the ground?
ISN'T IT REQUIRED
I don't think so. Not that I've seen that requirement. I've done many of these before and
usually I've never been told that before. Okay.
just if there's a bedroom down there that you need egress access to get out
john do you want to talk about um other projects like this in the area
oh yeah sure uh we have an ongoing project on carloff street that recently got a variance for
multi-family and that's maybe uh within a two block radius uh close close to broad street
and it's a similar project uh with this a 3d rendering uh we might not we're not gonna go with
the great bricks of facade we're gonna go with something similar to what um the neighbors uh
have more of a red um something more like this something like that and that on the nangle street
um that's up the street on 1600 block and it's uh the whole street there are triplexes and that's
uh they have gotten the variance back in um 2017 um for a uh for three units and
and i you know i would uh do something similar to that by the corner on benango street and um yeah
Yeah, we could change this. This was just for just to give us an idea of the massing of the structure.
But we're open to change the colors and make it blend in with the neighborhood.
Excuse me, can I see the plant, the basement plant again?
You have living space in the basement.
There's a bedroom just used by the first floor tenant.
It could also be an office, but we put a window well down there.
So that would give you three bedrooms for the first unit, right?
First floor basement is one unit. It gives you three bedrooms.
Correct.
How do you have windows in the basement if it's 100% below grade?
We have a window well.
Yeah, but what about the remaining space?
I believe code just calls for egress from a bedroom in a basement.
But to get to that basement, you have a set of stairs that goes through it.
We could always add a window well on the side since we're a corner.
But it's not shown on the plan.
no because um i wasn't aware of that requirement i've never been told that before by the building
inspector well when you come down the stairs you're going to travel to the basement correct
so that's a living space i mean it could be used as storage
does it well you don't want to travel through the storage to get to the bedroom
Correct. I mean, we don't know how this is going to be used, but typically it's just maybe another family room.
But that would make it a living space.
I was never aware. I've done many of these that are in the middle of the block, and there's no way to put a window in the living room space.
It's never been told that we needed a window well, window access for a living room, a family
Well, according to the code, you need a window, natural light ventilation for every living
space.
Not necessarily for a bathroom or kitchen, but any other space it is.
Well, like I said, I've never been told that this project, since it's a corner, we can
add that if that's mandatory, but this is very common to have a family room or some
kind of space, living space in a basement, and a lot of projects that are in the middle
of the block, there's no way to do that.
We don't always want to put window wells on the front of properties.
We don't always want to put window wells on the front of properties.
Thank you.
Is there a rear yard?
There is a rear yard that would be accessed by the, from the first floor tenant through this door on the back.
but all of the tenants would have access to the yard for trash from the side there'll be a gate
somewhere all right uh any other questions from the board no no
anyone else would like to testify in this case please raise your hand
Yes, Chair, I have Jackie.
Good morning, ma'am.
Jackie, can you unmute yourself?
Good morning, ma'am.
Please identify yourself with a record first and last name in your address.
Jacqueline Phillips-Clark, 1527 West Venango Street, Philadelphia PA-19140.
Thank you. Swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?
Please proceed.
I'm calling, representing neighbors that we're totally opposed to having this triplex, or I guess it's a quadruplex.
I'm not quite sure what they're going to call it.
on that corner. We already have new construction coming in with three stories from 17th Street to
16th Street, and then eventually Sittenham between 16 on the south side of Benangelo.
All those homes on that block are homeowners, and we do not want to include any more apartments
on that block. My address is right across the street from Sittenham on the west side
of Sittenham. I'm 1527. Those yards are very, very small. We've been living there for
40, for I've been living there in that neighborhood. I was born there and we're totally
opposed to neighbors. I'm calling to represent the neighbors as well. So we're totally opposed
to having that quadruplex or triplex put right there on that corner next to all single family
homes on the north side of Sidney M street as well as the west side of the Nango thank you
anyone else would like to testify please raise your hand
yes chair I have a burn Clark
morning
my name is vernon clark v-e-r-n-o-n-c-l-a-r-k and i live at 49 12 pulaski avenue but i've been
a neighbor and have owned property down in that area for a long time you swear to affirm that
certainly swear from to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes absolutely please
proceed the the problem i have with this is is going to add to an already dense neighborhood
the area is close to Temple University Hospital that you know I know parking isn't supposed to
be on the table you know but there's a density problem around there to be too many people they're
adding dozens and dozens of apartments to this neighborhood I joined uh all the other neighbors
in opposing this project. Thank you anyone else something new and different please raise your hand
there i have um mr charles richardson thank you good morning mr richardson good morning mr chair
can you hear me firm mr richardson please identify yourself charles richardson from the office of
councilwoman cindy bass room 312 city hall we're confirmed to tell the truth the whole truth nothing
about the truth. I do. Thank you, sir. Please proceed. The RCO, 13-4 RCO, in coordination with
the Swampoodle RCO, held a meeting on October the 29th where the community voted to oppose the
project, citing were density issues and fears that this would change the character of the block and
and things along those lines.
As such, the Councilwoman does support the community
and is opposed to granting the variance for this project.
Thank you.
Any other individual needs to testify in this case?
Yes, I have an internet, Phillips.
Antoinette Phillips. Good morning, ma'am. Please identify yourself with a record, first and last name and address.
Good morning, ma'am.
Please identify yourself with a record for-