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ZBA Hearing - March 6, 2024

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 6, 20246h 49m

but the reality is that

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people who come and stay in Chestnut Hill

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do it because

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they don't need a car

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and it's easy for them from my property

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to move everywhere

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can you tell the board how this property is managed i personally manage the property i am

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screen every guest i personally uh talk to them in either either platform where they booked

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um as specific questions to make sure that they understand our rules and they are going to behave

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according to what we're expecting from them.

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We have zero tolerance with parties.

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We don't accept pets.

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We have quiet hours.

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We have a minimum stay of three nights.

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The average will be 10 to 13 nights.

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What I do is that I open the calendar later in the year

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for the bookings to come in and as we get closer is when I allow the three nights minimum. We have

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cameras outside the property and all that is specified in each of our listings.

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Can you tell the board how trash is handled? Sure, so every unit has two bins, one for trash,

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one for recycle

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so four of those bins

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two for each unit are on one side

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of the building and

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two of them are on the other

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side of the building

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trash come on Friday

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with my cleaner is there she will pull the trash out

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sometimes we have been going there

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just to take the trash out

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one of the neighbors

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have offering when he realized

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that we were coming over

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just to take the trash out he said don't bother

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I can pull the trash out for you

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do not worry we even offer to maybe give them something but they they just do it as a good

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face helping us out if uh if they see that the trash has to be taken out and because we do have

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people that come for several nights if they happen to be there that night of the week we ask them to

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please take the trash out and then bring it back and do multiple properties next to yours including

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including yours, keep their trash in the same location?

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So I would say yes, because there is an easement between my property and the four units next

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door.

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So there has been times where through that easement you have our two trash cans or one

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trash can and one recycle.

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They want for the four unit building and they want for the back commercial building also

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gets in the same spot in Arlie Street. If you drive there Friday afternoon, sometimes you will see

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a lot of trash cans, but it's the product of the three buildings.

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Okay. Have you spoken to any of your neighbors about the use of your property before you filed

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the zoning application? And what feedback did you receive?

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uh yes yes uh all all the neighbors at least all the all the neighbors uh that surround the

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the property the the people next door they have uh short-term rental as well so we have a good

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relationship with them we talk about the business and many times they have called me to uh to ask

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for for advice uh uh the the people in the back the tenants in the back um he uh he knows that

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we do a short-term rental i he has my phone number we always say if there is any issue to call us back

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josh to the other side also he knows that he has been inside my units and um i i think at the

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beginning they were very impressed that this was a short-term rental that that we put a lot of

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quality in there. The last neighbor we met is the neighbor

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It's the neighbor across the street, Jennifer.

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across the street, Jennifer. She moved to the street

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She moves to the street later.

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Is this the property you're talking about?

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And I'm pointing to the screen at 201, Benazette.

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Yes, and you can see it in the picture below.

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Yeah, so you can see that it's a garage.

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To be honest, I don't know who owns the garage.

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I haven't had any contact with that.

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I was talking about the house next door.

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That's the last neighbor we talked to.

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um september i believe last year and did she have any issues what did she tell you

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no no um we met her on the street um and we say hey veronica mark we own this property we we do

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want to come and see and she said yes we show her two of the units we couldn't show that there

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one because the unit was occupied and um and she said i wasn't aware that this was a short-term

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rental. Can I ask a question? Is this the woman that moved the council? She moved. She said the

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woman moved away, right? She didn't move away. I think she moved in there. Correct, Veronica?

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Yes. No, she's still there. Yes. She moved there. She did submit a letter to the chair.

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Yes, she should meet a letter. To be honest, I was very surprised because

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when we had the opportunity to meet her in person that she came and see my units,

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her comments were positive like wow this is great this is beautiful she even say now I know when my

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family come and visit a place that is so close that they can they can stay and so yes I have met

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all the neighbors and they have been at least in one of my units at one point yes okay thank you

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and if you were unable to operate the property as short-term rental would you be able to maintain

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this property? I don't think we'll be able to cover the expenses of this property and the

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mortgage with long-term rentals. We gave it a try when we started. It didn't work out.

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Okay. Just another question that I have for you. Are you familiar with any dogs being on this

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property? When we bought the property, we acquired the property with two tenants. One of the tenants

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had a Rottweiler and a Boxer. It was complicated for us because we now, as a new landlord, have to

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acquire a new insurance that covered that. When we learned so much about that, that we said, no,

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there is no way we can do that. Also, the kids that come to the Institute, they have high allergies,

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a lot of sensitivity. So I cannot offer a product to that family and then being concerned that there

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are dogs in the house. So we have cameras and I check them constantly. No, I have never been aware

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of a dog besides that very first tenant in that property. Okay. I have no further questions at

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this time you're at mr chair questions from the board no mr chairman no chair

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questions or comments from our attorney hillary emberson

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not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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jason

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yes chair we have a couple of hands uh christopher jacobson has been allowed to speak

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hi hi could you please state your name and spell for the court stenographer

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Yes, my name is Christopher Jacobson, K-R-I-S-T-O-F-F-E-R, Jacobson, J-A-C-O-B-S-O-N.

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Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I am in the community. I am not a near neighbor. No, I am about two blocks away.

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Sure, please.

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i'm in opposition to the variance i am here as a member of the community i'm not an immediate

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neighbor i live a few blocks away but i pass the property every day i'm familiar with it it's a part

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of my neighborhood and in my 30 years here by the way i've never considered it a blighted property

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my opposition stems from the fact that this short-term visitor accommodation is non-owner

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occupied. In my experience, this kind of business destabilizes a neighborhood. Some years ago,

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the house next to mine became for a year and a half a non-owner occupied short-term visitor

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accommodation. It disrupted my life. The main disruption was that I no longer knew who was

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allowed on the property. That meant I no longer knew how to respond to what happened on the

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property. For example, twice I was woken up in the middle of the night by someone trying to get in

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by someone trying to get in through a window next door. Both times, it turned out a visitor

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through a window next door. Both times, it turned out a visitor had lost his

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had lost his key and couldn't get one from the absent owner. But in that moment, I had no idea

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if I was witnessing a burglary. This, to me, is the core problem with a non-owner-occupied short-term

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visitor accommodation in a residential area. No matter how nice the property is, or how well

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maintained, or how good the guests are, or how convenient the business might be for visitors,

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all things we've heard about, the problem of not knowing who belongs does not go away.

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The mere existence non-owner-occupied short-term visitor accommodation in a residential neighborhood

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like mine is therefore destabilizing, because it is a source of constant uncertainty,

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not just for the immediate neighbors, but for the neighbors at large. This uncertainty is typical

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in a business district, not a residential one. One should note, other forms of visitor

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accommodation like hotels at least have staff on the premises, as does, I believe, the rental

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property that was discussed next door to 7918. My property is surrounded by rental units. I've

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lived here for 30 years. I have no issue with rentals, but if this variance is granted, the

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owners of other properties, like the one surrounding me, may seek similar permission. If that were to

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occur, my neighborhood would be changed for the worse. I believe 7918, if it is to be rented,

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should be rented in a rental consistent with RSA 3 zoning, as it was in the past. Such rentals are

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desperately needed. I am surprised, quite, to hear for the first time that they tried to rent this

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because rentals here are scarce and desired.

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I do not believe that the applicants have shown a compelling reason

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why renting in this matter is not possible,

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nor do I think that they have shown that this particular business

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on this particular property is a benefit to anyone other than themselves.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for taking the time to call.

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Is there anyone else in the audience?

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Yes, Chair.

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We have a Jennifer Eusen.

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they have been allowed to speak. Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Yes, my name is Jennifer Houston, J-E-N-N-I-F-E-R-Y-U-S-I-N. You swear or affirm to tell

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the truth, the whole truth is nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Are you a neighbor? Yes, I live

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directly across the street at 201 Bendisit Street. My property was just mentioned. Please proceed.

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My wife, Beth Belukas, and I live directly across the street.

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We oppose the variance.

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In my email to the ZBA, I submitted a letter detailing our reasons for our opposition,

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as well as a petition signed by more than 50 near neighbors opposing the variance.

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That petition includes the signatures of every adjacent neighbor and was obtained after a

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lot of conversation and full information about what was implied by this variance.

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As residents who live directly across the street, we experience the following issues on a regular basis.

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Excessive noise, trash on our property, parking issues, loitering on our entry steps, blocking access to our home,

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taxi, Lyft, Uber drivers driving at high speeds the wrong way,

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and are blocking the regular flow of traffic on our quiet one-way residential street.

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We still do not know how to be in contact with the owners who live off-site and manage a number of other rental units in a way that helps resolve issues when help is needed and not hours or days later.

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Because the owners do not live on the premises, they cannot give immediate attention to the issues we, the neighbors, experience regularly.

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this problem is amplified by the high turnover in each of the three non-owner occupied short-term

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visitor accommodations in this property the high turnover rates leads to large numbers of people

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whom we do not know in any given week in the year because of that we do not feel safe to approach

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people whom we don't know with neighborly issues such as excessive noise and are forced to call

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and city resources like the police to help with our problems that are otherwise easily remedied

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among neighbors. When we know our neighbors, we feel safe to participate in our community

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and resolve issues that may arise among us. I want to emphasize that a serious effect of

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non-owner-occupied short-term visitor accommodations is the generalized erosion of safety and community.

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Safety and community go together. You can't have one without the other. When the feeling of safety

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is continuously degraded by the high turnover of people and non-owner occupied accommodations as

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it has been by this property. We are increasingly compelled to keep our blinds closed, not to say

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We are increasingly compelled to keep our blinds closed, not to say hi to others on the street, and avoid helping others when problems emerge.

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high to others on the street.

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In other words, because of increasing feelings of unsafety, we are increasingly compelled to live in a more isolated and isolating ways.

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We chose to buy our home in Chestnut Hill on a quiet residential street precisely because we wanted to live in a safe, quiet community in which we can actively participate.

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All of this significantly impacts our own right to the enjoyment of our residential property

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and is degrading the general sense of community in our neighborhood.

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Another serious effect is that this non-owner-occupied short-term visitor accommodation takes three

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long-term rental units off the market.

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Numerous studies have shown that by removing the supply of long-term housing, this type

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of visitor accommodation drives up rental prices, adding to the overall affordable housing

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crisis.

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The limited lodging laws were in place prior to the purchase of this property. When asked about

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the necessity of the variance during community meetings, both the applicant and applicant's

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lawyers avoided answering this question. For these reasons, we oppose the variance. Thank you very

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much. Thank you. I have a couple questions for Ms. Youson. Ms. Youson, are you saying that you

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don't have the phone numbers for Mark or Veronica? I have one phone number, but we have not been made

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aware of how to be in contact to resolve issues immediately. And we were never told that we could

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contact them with issues. They only contacted us when this variance was under issue and

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when the Chesson Hill Community Association asked them to reach out to us. And we still

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did not know how to be in contact to resolve issues. So are you saying that you hadn't spoken

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with my clients prior to the zoning application?

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I'm not sure the nature of your question.

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Can you restate your question, please?

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Did you speak with Veronica or Mark prior to the zoning application being filed?

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Yes.

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And do you know that an owner-occupied property that has a limited lodging license,

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do you know that that owner could go away for up to 30 days

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and rent out their unit or home for that entire time

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and not be available and be out of the country.

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Are you familiar with that?

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I have learned some aspects of this law, yes, but yes.

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Okay.

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And do you have a permit for the fence on your property?

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