Sometimes I'll just touch it, but it's not coming off what she said. Yeah, we just need to get something off the screen. We're trying to get something off the screen.
Oh, here comes Bill. Here comes Ian. I got a whole team here now.
This one?
Yeah, we get that over here.
Oh, yeah. Look at that. Look at that.
How many people in the audience?
we ready to go
good morning everyone my name is Bill Bergman I'll be chairing this
today's meeting of the philadelphia zoning board of adjustment with me is our vice chair tenetta
graham president mr chairman our board secretary charlotte gaston president mr chairman board
member michael johns president mr chairman board member tya win she will be here any minute and
our board member ryan mcshane mcadams president mr chairman also present is our board attorney
Hillary Emerson, our ZBA director, Ian Haggerty, and our board administrator. I'm sorry, Lakeisha's
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So let's look at our schedule for this morning.
Number two, MI 2025, 000532, 1710 West Hunting Park Street.
The owner is Vivian Roney.
Chair, I see no hands at the sign.
This is the third listing.
So MI 2025-000-532-1710 West Huntington Street.
I vote to dismiss.
I vote to dismiss.
Michael Johns, I vote to dismiss.
Michael Johns, I vote to dismiss.
Cheryl Gaston, my vote is to dismiss.
Tana Graham, my vote is to dismiss.
Ryan McAdams, my vote is to dismiss.
Tanya Wayne, my vote is to dismiss.
Thank you.
Number three, MI2025-000822-3029 North Stillman Street.
um the mal philip philippin is the listed llc also the listener owner is uh tanisha
brum brumskill yeah mr jerry i just wanted to clarify for the record females flipping llc
is the listed owner um and then yeah we have an applicant by the name of tanisha brumskill doing
business as perfect touch renovations llc okay is there anyone present this is the second listing
no exhibits chair there are no hands at this so number three mi 2025 000 822 3029 north stillman
street i vote to dismiss michael johns i vote to dismiss cheryl gaston my vote is to dismiss
it's another gram i vote to dismiss ryan mcadams my vote is to dismiss i win my vote is to dismiss
number four mi 2025 004 316 2608 swain street michael feeney is the listed owner
megan shannon is the listed applicant
chair i'll see no hands at this time um for me
so mi2025-004-1316-2608 swain street this case is continued
9 2 20 26 at 9 30 a.m
and mr chair to clarify for the record on that yeah sorry on that case um we we've received an
indication from the applicant that they wish to withdraw but we haven't received the formal
withdrawal paperwork yet all right we're waiting for a formal withdrawal okay number
number five
MI 2025
189 West Duncannon Street
that case is continued until
9-2-26
at 9.30 a.m.
number
number six mi2025 zero zero four six two one thirty seven twelve north 15th street um
this we're going to continue this one am i correct hillary um so with with this one we
have the martinez property group llc as a listed owner um eb reyes is the listed applicant um we
received a request for a draw back in march we instructed on how to okay formally file but we
did not receive the required paperwork so it can be dismissed and my 2025 zero zero four
621-3712 north 15th street i vote to dismiss michael johns my vote is to dismiss
cheryl gaston my vote is to dismiss tenetta graham my vote is to dismiss ryan mcadams my
My vote is to dismiss.
I am Wayne.
My vote is to dismiss.
Number 9, MI 2025-007-285-821-25, 13th Street, North 13th Street.
This case is continued until 9-2-26 at 9.30 a.m.
Number 10, MI 2025-007-340-621 South 60th Street.
This case is continuing until 9-2-2026 at 9.30 a.m.
2026 at 9 30 a.m and number 11 mi 2025 007 351 4243 uh chippewa
And number 11, MI.
avenue this case is continued until 95 2025 at 9 30 a.m
Just for the record, Chair, I believe that continuing state is 9-2-2026 at 9.30 a.m.
Did I say 9-2?
I'm sorry.
Number 14.
MI-2025-007-382-1817, Master Street, KKG-1-LLC is the listed owner, no exhibits, this is the first listing.
i see no hands at this time chair so mi 2025 007 384 1817 new kirk street this case is continued
to 9 to 2026 at 9 30 a.m mark must be heard just sorry mr just to clarify that's mi dash
twenty twenty five zero zero seven three eight two eighteen seventeen master street thank you
and yeah continued must be heard i think i said that but okay thank you and number
sixteen mi twenty twenty five zero zero seven three eight four seventy four eleven
tarsdale avenue first listing no exhibits sang and angie marie charles are the owners
i see no hands at this time here so mi2025 007 384 7411 tarsdale avenue this case is continued to
9-2-2026 at 9 30 a.m and mark must be heard are there any other requests for continuance
i see no hands at this time chair let's go to our add-on list number one mi 2025
five zero zero two eight two one twenty two twenty six west tioga street this case has been
rescheduled to wednesday june 3rd at 9 30 a.m number two i'm sorry a hand just went up from
oliver martinez okay mr martinez's case will be called shortly okay
Number two, MI 2026-002-424-2224 West Tioga Street.
This case has been rescheduled to June 3rd, 2026 at 9.30 a.m.
number three mi 2025 006 750 6151 market street i vote yes michael johns my vote is yes
cheryl gaston my vote is yes tenetta graham my vote is yes i mcadams my vote is yes
my vote is yes number four mi2025-003-279-2519 north 7th street i vote no
michael johns my vote is no cheryl gaston my vote is no
ryan mcadams my vote is no hi i win my vote is no
vote the next one we're going to vote number five and six together number five is mi 2025
005 709 102 west duval street and number six is mi 2025 005 712 100 west duval street
I vote yes to both with proviso revised plans one page stamped by ZBA on March 20th 2026
Michael Johns my vote is yes to both with proviso and Mr. Johns can you just certify please thank
you oh yes and I certify that I read the transcripts for both a 102 West Duval and
and 100 West Duvall.
Cheryl Gaston. I hereby certify that I reviewed the transcripts from the January 13th, 2021, and the September 28th, 2022 hearings before the ZBA in this matter, and I vote yes with provisals.
So, Gaston, I...
I, Ryan McAdams, certify that I reviewed the transcripts from January 13th, 2021 and September 28th, 2022 hearings before the ZBA in this matter. And my vote is yes with proviso.
Sorry, just to clarify, Board Member Gassner is yes to both?
Yes, to both.
To myself, yes to both.
All right, thank you.
Is that it?
Okay. All right. Our first case is going to be number 15.
Hold on. Do I get the wrong?
Yep. Number 15.
there it is
mi 2025 007 383 4401 compman street joseph consul is the attorney
mr consul could you please stay your name and spell for the sonographer
Thank you. It's J-O-S-E-P-H, last name Consul, C-O-N-S-O-L-E.
Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
Could you identify your client, your relationship to this property?
Yeah, my client is Ms. Lisa Smith, and she is with me virtually.
Okay. Our vice chair has a few questions for you. Good morning. Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing? I did. And do you waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy? I do. All right. Thank you. You can share your screen and proceed. Thanks. Okay. My screen's up. We're here about 4401 Cotman Avenue. I'm Joseph Consul. My client is the ground floor commercial tenant, Lisa Smith.
uh she is seeking to get approval for a child care center within uh this existing attached
structure um we included in our packet the deed showing the ownership by um zaodang chen the
lease between my client and zaodang valid tax clearance certificate and the other mandatory
proofs of notification and posting as you can see the property is zoned rsa5 we have one use refusal
here for um the uh use of a child care center on the ground floor there's no exterior signage as
part of this application uh we believe there's a proof of mailing
here's photos of the property we believe that this is an appropriate property for approval of
of this variance because while it's zoned RSA 5, the reality of this ground floor space
is that for decades it functioned as a neighborhood bar known as McGeehan's Rock Bottom.
The space is permanently built out as a commercial storefront with separate commercial utility
meters forcing the property owner or a tenant to convert this tavern into a purely residential
single family living space would be unnecessary and i believe in qualify as a hardship uh instead
of a late night commercial tap room my client's proposing to utilize this space as a daytime only
community service which is a high quality child care and after school program as she will testify
to she has many years experience in daycare and i believe what she's trying to do will
be appropriate for this location. This is the exterior photos.
That's what the property looks like on the inside now. She's got a traffic plan. She plans to,
instead of using Cotman Avenue, which is, as everyone knows, a fairly highly trafficked
commercial corridor, drop off and pick up will be handled on Cottage Street. That's where the
The daycare entrance is that you can see there's also a second entrance in the back that leads to the back of the property in the alleyway.
So we've got hours of operation 6am to 6pm.
She anticipates it being a maximum of 20 to 25 children, though it will depend on the measurements of the space and what she's able to do under Pennsylvania code, which she'll she'll get there when when she gets there, and she anticipates employing
And she anticipates employing five, up to five staff members, likely four to five, during the opening hours of the space.
five, up to five staff members, likely four.
The lease itself limits her to operating between 9 a.m. and 9 p.m., so not that she intends to go any further than the 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. that she talked about.
I'm sorry, it's quiet hours from 9 p.m. to 9 a.m. with an approval to be a daycare from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.
My client's got a commercial activity license. However, her application with the PA Department of Human Services is actively in progress.
We met with the Holmesburg Civic Association at their community meeting on March 12, 2026.
We got an email from the president stating that he does not oppose the project.
There was some personal information in that email regarding his inability to write a letter.
i don't want to share that although i believe we did put it in our packet um and hopefully someone
saw that um but they they specifically noted they do not oppose uh this variance um so uh we believe
that this is recognized by the community as a potential positive use and uh an upgrade over
the previous uses in this space and uh with that i'll ask my client to raise your client's name
my client's name is lisa smith your client's name lisa smith lisa smith please
they're promoted to panelists thank you
yes good morning ms smith good morning all right um could you state your name and spell
for the stenographer yes lisa smith l-i-s-a last name s-m-i-t-h you swear or affirm to tell the
truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do counsel uh good morning miss smith did you
good morning did you hear my testimony just now regarding your lease at 4401 cotman yes do you
adopt it as your own yes would you just very briefly give a little bit of background on
your child care sort of history yes I'm coming out of school during high school
I took up the daycare inside the high inside my high school I went to William
Penn High and coming out of there I was working at different daycares one was
called Mary's Love Kingdom one was called J&H and one was called Little Mamas and
And from there, I kept saying to myself, oh, I'm going to have my own daycare one day.
I'm going to get my own daycare.
You know, kids love me.
And I'm going to get my own daycare.
And Chicken got married.
And during the time I got married, I had a husband.
He wasn't, like, with me on getting my business started and everything.
It was just a lot of chaos.
But, you know, that passed away.
So now here I am up and trying to do it now.
trying to make the kids you know you know bringing people that need help um you know to watch their
kids to teach them you know uh teach them and and let them learn different things that you know
other people you know may not be able to teach them so i'm trying to step in there and do these
things for them and let you know let their parents work and make sure they are safe and just give them
some activities to do and things to to learn and take them different places you know where they can