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ZBA Hearing - April 6, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Apr 6, 20225h 22m

Henry Clinton for the applicant. Could you spell your name for the court reporter, Mr. Clinton?

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Sure. H-N-R-Y Clinton, C-L-I-N-T-O-N, 1313 South 33rd Street, FWPA, 19146.

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Do you swear a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do, Mr. Chairman. Could you identify your client and their relationship with the property?

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Sure. The owner of the property is 3737 South 2nd LLC, and the two principals are both on the call with me, Sean Thomas, as well as Keith Sheed, S-H-E-E-D.

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Okay. Our vice chair has a few questions.

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Hi, Mr. Clinton. Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed the exhibit packet consisting of proof of ownership,

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tax compliance, a copy of the refusal or referral, photos and replies to the property

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five days in advance of this hearing? And have you met with the RCO and do you have a letter?

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Yes to all of the above.

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That's great. You may proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you.

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Is that visible enough?

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Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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I'm here on behalf of 3737 North 2nd Street, LLC.

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And this is my table of contents, exhibits AA through A11, which I'll ask to be admitted into evidence.

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This is our appearance statement, which is typical.

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This is the refusal.

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The request is for a sit-down restaurant.

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As I walk through the presentation, you'll see that historically, this was a banquet facility.

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Banquet facility, according to the zoning records, were approximately the year 2000 to 2021.

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And prior to that, it was really an amusement entertainment site.

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And I'll show you some historical records.

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So the reason we're before you is because the property is in an I-2 zone.

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It's industrial medium.

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and we're asking for a sit-down restaurant

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and the code does not permit that.

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Even though the historical use

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has been for something similar.

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So we do have a letter of support from the RCO.

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One of the caveats to the support

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was a concern about parking.

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And in the letter, you can see

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that there is reference to the fact

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that we have permission to use an adjacent property

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for parking during certain events.

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And I've attached a copy of that letter

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for the board. This is an adjacent property at 3710, actually across the street it is 3710

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10 actually across the street it is 3710 North 2nd and we have the permission to use this

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North 2nd. And we have the

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gentleman's parking lot for certain events. We also have a petition of support from the

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surrounding neighbors and you'll see from my certification that we only had to mail out

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letters believe it or not to 15 neighbors because it is a huge industrial site as you'll see from

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the photograph so there really weren't a lot of surrounding neighbors but we got the bulk of

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their signatures in support. So you can see this is an entirely industrial area. The zoning map

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indicates it's this side of the street on Erie Avenue is industrial as is this side. And the

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property is close to the intersection of 2nd and Erie. There's a high school across the street and

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that's only non-industrial use that I could find. Again, this is the facility right here and you'll

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see from some photographs that it used to be a banquet facility. We're not going to have a

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banquet facility. We're asking for a sit-down restaurant. Just showed you some interior

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photographs. Still in good shape. This is the counter area. These are the plans. Give it a

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layout. It's really a first floor and a partial second floor. This is the counter area, the seating

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area for booths as well as tables, and an open area, perhaps for events, for birthday parties,

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christenings, showers, things of that sort. On the second floor, we're just going to have an

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office area. The rest of the building is really not used. It's a roof area.

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So the rest of the documents are pro forma documents we usually introduce at the zoning board hearing, tax certification, notification to surrounding neighbors, or an application for appeal.

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And this is the zoning map. I just want to show the board. This is our property right here, my client's property, and the whole area in purple is an I-2 zone.

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And here are some historical records just to show the board that in 1987, this was a bar restaurant that had entertainment, pinball machines, shuffle boards, pool tables.

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And this is a certificate of occupancy from 2002, again, indicating a bar restaurant with live entertainment, bands, disco, et cetera.

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So we're asking the board to look kindly upon this application because it doesn't really change the use per se.

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It's still going to be an area where you can get a sandwich and sit down and have something to eat.

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But we're not going to have the extensive use of the property that was before, which was a banquet facility.

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So we're not going to affect any adjacent neighbors later air.

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It's in harmony with the code. It's in harmony with what the RCO supports.

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uh and we are the historical use documented historical use is consistent with the use that

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we're proposing for the board today so with that i'd like to rest and entertain any questions the

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board or the virtual audience may have henry would you want to bring your client on to adopt your

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testimony sure mr thomas can you raise your hand and you'll be unmuted he's been allowed to speak

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sir but you state your name and spell for the court reporter yes my name is sean thomas s-h-a-w-n-t-h-o-m-e-s

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right do you swear a firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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yes i do proceed uh good afternoon mr thomas how are you all right good uh were you on the call

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when i presented this project on behalf of you and mr sheet yes i was and if you had the opportunity

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to testify, would you adopt my testimony as your own and as true and correct?

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Yes, I will.

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Thank you, Mr. Thomas.

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I appreciate your time.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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I'll wait, sir.

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Mr. Sloan, folks, let's put his hand up.

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I will allow him to speak at this time.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Folks, you've been sworn before.

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Just start your testimony, please.

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Good afternoon, sir.

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The applicant having met with the coordinating RCO and receiving a letter of support, our office offers no opposition.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Anyone else in the virtual audience?

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There are no other hands at this time.

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Planning Commission?

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On Bednar City Planning, while this property is currently indicated for industrial on the city

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plan or proposed zoning for the site was ICMX, which would allow a sit-down restaurant by right.

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was ICMX, which would allow a sit-down restaurant by right.

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Therefore, we recommend perseverance be granted.

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MI 2021-004974-3737 North 2nd Street, I vote yes.

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Carol Tennerin, my vote is yes.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

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have a great day. Okay. You too. MI 2021-002-633-5929 North 5th Street.

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Mr. Justin Crick has been promoted to panelists. He will be rejoining us shortly, sir. Okay.

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Good afternoon, members of the board. Justin Crick on behalf of the applicant.

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Hey, could you spell your name, please, for the court reporter?

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Yes, last name K-R-I-K.

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Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you identify your client and their relationship with the property?

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Yes, my client is the Fifth Street Lounge, Philadelphia, LLC, tenant of the property represented by Earl Johnson.

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The application was filed by our expediter, Betty Mann.

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Okay, thank you. Our vice chair has a few questions.

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Hi, Mr. Crick. Do you agree to waive the renew the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Okay. Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership tax compliance, a copy of the refusal or referral, photos under plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing, and have you met with the RCO, and do you have a letter?

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Yes, to all.

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Okay, great. You may proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Members of the board, we're here today on the property located at 5929 North 5th Street.

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The property is currently being used as a bar and restaurant with some food in the bar.

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And it is, both stories of the property are occupied.

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But what we have a refusal for is an application for assembly and entertainment to allow music

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to be played on the first and second floors of the existing building and in the existing

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structure the proposed use of nightclub private club is expressly prohibited in the cmx2 district

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and that is what we are seeking the variance for today that's the only refusal we received

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and as you can see that there was there was previously approval for this this structure

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and the work done to it with soundproofing and so forth in a prior application

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property is located uh generally speaking along a somewhat of a commercial corridor on north fifth

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street but within a residential area surrounding it is located on a fairly large parcel of land

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that from the this photograph will show you that it has a large area that was originally used for

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parking but has been used now and converted approved converted to outdoor seating during

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the pandemic they utilized that uh which you can see here this used to be a parking area

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what excuse me council this isn't council we're not seeing the pictures oh all right i apologize

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let me try that one more time all right how is this working good thank you thank you very much

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i'm sorry about that let me go back and just show you so this is this is a commercial corridor

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on on this side of the street there's a there's quite a few uh you know pharmacy hardware store

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restaurant and this bar from an aerial view and i'll get to the closer one this is a this was the

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is a parking area for the restaurant but a portion of the back of it as you'll see has become some

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outdoor seating but notably we have made arrangements with kim's korean restaurant who

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when they are closed in the evenings do not mind and are okay with our patrons parking in that lot

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during that time again the commercial corridor and one other thing is that there was there's

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another project that was presented at the same RCO meeting for a new bar or business up the street

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that tied into the the concerns of the neighborhood that may be relevant for later discussion or

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questioning but here's an exterior photo of the property um you can see the the outdoor area

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that's been uh re repurposed but there is still some parking in front as well as parking along

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as well as parking along the street frontage and we're going to get to some interior photos

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the street frontage um and i'm going to get to some

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into.

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again an existing bar sports bar happy hours uh whatnot and what their what the the intent is is

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to have music in the form of a dj and also just allow background music on roughly three nights a

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week thursday friday and saturday both on the first floor level here as well as some photos

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i'll get to right now this is an there's some offices empty office space that are mainly used

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by the proprietor on the second floor and or as stock room for random things but may be opened up

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and want the ability to open these some of these rooms up for either private events and things of

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that nature so the music would just be throughout the premises this is somewhat of a crude drawing

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by the tenant, because again, the approved plans are already okay. We're just looking for music in

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both of these levels. So admittedly, here's an exemplar, copy of the lease, sorry, copy of the

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photos, the posting, and a tax clearance certificate. Now, admittedly, when we met with

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the um rco which is the uh upper north council or coalition of community councils um they did

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submit a letter of opposition in in drastic opposition stark opposition to this with with

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basically a 38 to nothing in opposition however a closer look now an explanation that they provided

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um really they were concerned about outdoor music which has was only carried out during the pandemic

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for purpose of necessity, but is not something that is within this application or within the

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desire. They were concerned with parking issues, which again, we have made some arrangements for

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parking to be decreased or alleviated, but the addition of music won't necessarily change the

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parking concerns that exist just from the existing bar and restaurant that is already there as of

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right um but in that same respect the the applicant has agreed to you know take more measures to inform

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his patrons of what they should and shouldn't do in terms of parking in the neighborhood

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uh and finally a concern of the neighborhood was violent activity but um that didn't seem to be the

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the primary concern because our client or the applicant maintains security private security

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on site during all business hours and um and you know can only control what is done within his

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premises uh and also made very note very good note that we do work with the local police department

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and would be willing to handle her and hire additional security um i've received how many

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what is the capacity what is the capacity yes uh occupancy we have about 75 to 100 people

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occupancy limit on one floor or both that would be including both

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okay and what are the days and hours of operation yep that would be um the days of operation are

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seven days a week from 4 p.m to 2 a.m sometimes a little earlier on sunday if there's an event

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or something in the morning in terms of sporting event or gathering that someone wants to have

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um okay and the music would be approximately thursday friday and saturday evenings

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for that. And when does the music end? The music would end, I believe, that would be,

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I don't know that we have a time ending for it other than close of business.

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I can let Mr. Johnson, who is available, answer that question if he is, you know, prepared to do

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so. But my understanding is that the music would be available to the bar during its regular hours

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of operation, whether it be just through an overhead PA system, but the DJ would only

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be required three days and three nights a week intended.

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Thank you.

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Yep.

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And so we took into account very much what the neighborhood had said, and we were willing

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to work with them and are still willing to work with them.

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And then I received an understanding, and I'll let the councilperson's office speak

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for themselves.

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