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ZBA Hearing - August 4, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 4, 20215h 51m

and we're live

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you and Tanya and

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Tina we'll give you a few minutes you'll let us

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know when you're ready

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yes chair

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, Chair, we have about 49 attendees with us today, and we're ready to begin as you

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wish.

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One second, please.

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Okay.

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Sorry about that.

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Good morning, everyone.

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My name is Frank DiCicco.

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I'm the chair of the Zoning Board of Adjustment.

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I apologize for background noise.

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I'll be participating in today's hearing along with our board secretary, Mr.

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Professor Plaza and Board Member Mr. Thomas Holloman. Board Administrator Fatina L and Board

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Attorney Ms. Sharon Saleta along with our Zoning Board Administrator Ms. Tanya Sunkit are also in

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attendance. For those of you who haven't yet participated in one of our hearings I'll go

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through some of the basics of what you can expect. First we will be administering oaths to individual

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participants prior to their testimony. Second we'd like to advise everyone that this proceeding is

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being recorded and that by participating you acknowledge your agreement to to be recorded

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and that the recording will be made available to the public on the web or otherwise. For anyone

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participating by phone if you wish to testify you must raise your hand by hitting star nine

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and then star six to unmute yourself. I'll repeat. For anyone participating by phone if you wish to

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testify, you must raise your hand by hitting star nine and then star six to unmute yourself.

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Finally, to enter an appearance statement, call Google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address

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and the address of the property at issue. I will repeat. To enter an appearance statement,

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call google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address and the address of the property at issue

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and i'd like to remind everyone please do not attempt to testify in the chat any comments or

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questions you have please direct them to fatina l or board administrator with that i will read off

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If there is a case that was scheduled for 3.30 today, MI 2021-001-476-731 North Uber Street, that case will be held for one week.

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There's an add-on case, MI 2020-002-483-1431 North 20th Street.

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Excuse me, Chair.

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This is Sharon.

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If we could move that to the end of the session, I'd like to contact someone at Planning.

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Yeah, okay.

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All right.

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We'll move that back.

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Thank you.

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On the 930 list, case number five, MI2021-001479, 1433 West Fisher Avenue is being continued.

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Number 10 on our list, 930 list is MI2020-000282, 4625 Wayne Avenue.

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And number 14 on our list, MI2020-003172599 Adams Avenue is requested to be withdrawn.

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is requested to be withdrawn anyone has any comments or concerns or disagrees with the

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Anyone has any comments or concerns?

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three cases i read off as being continued or withdrawn please raise your hand at this time

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only if you have concern about the cases i just read into the record

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i see no handshare thank you i will now ask if anyone would like to request

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a continuance or withdrawal to please raise their hand I see no hands at this time chair

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you just want to make sure Sharon am I doing the north 20th street now

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chair if you could announce ask if anyone is here for number three on the list this is the case that

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has related cases scheduled for the 330 list and we'll move them all thank you mi 2021 that's

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zero zero one four eight three one three four nine south linwood street is there anyone here

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for this case. This is a related case to several cases that will be heard on a 330 list. I would

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like to advise everyone that this case I just mentioned 1349 South Linwood Street will be

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moved to the 330 list. Chair, we have one hand up. We have two hands up. The first hand is

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He's been unmuted. Please wait for the chair.

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Thank you, sir. Please identify yourself. Spell your full name and I'll swear you in.

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Morning, chair and board adjustments. I am Minister Enoch Amarayal.

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That is spelled E-N-O-C-H-A-M-E-N-R-A-hyphen-E-L.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I affirm.

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Thank you. Please.

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Excuse me, Chair. Before you start, could we also check whether the attorney, Isaac Slepner, is in attendance?

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Is Mr. Slepner available? Hold on, sir. I'll go right back to you.

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Yeah, he's there. I see him.

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Yeah, I'm here.

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Yeah, Mr. Slepner, please identify yourself. I'll swear you in and have some questions for you.

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Sure thing. Isaac Slepner with Mattione Limited. I am counsel to the owner of 1349 South Lindenwood. Mattione Limited is 100 North Independence Mall West, Suite 5A Northwest, Philadelphia PA, 19106.

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Do you swear a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you. I don't know if you heard my statement and Mr. Amman, just hold off one second. I was going to, we were considering moving your three, the case for 1349 South Linwood to the 330 list because they're all connected to each other, related.

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and rather than have people sit on the phone to hear testimony on this case and then have to come

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back at 3 30 we thought we'd do it as a bundle and hear them all at the same time is there any

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objection to that i don't have any objection no objection i think that's a brilliant idea thank

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you okay so we'll see everybody back here at 3 30 as it relates to linwood avenue and the other

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cases which i believe are wilton street cases correct correct correct all right thank you

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thank you for your cooperation all right uh with that um excuse me chair we have one more

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okay the hand just went down never mind all right i'm going to ask again any requests for

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continuances or withdrawals for the 9 30 list um hi chair this is tanya sunkett um this is typical

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um that uh i wanted to mention that the case that's being continued for

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MI 2020 000282 has been scheduled multiple times since 2020, I believe February or May

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of 2020. Can I make a request that this be a must be heard? I had suggested to the attorney

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when he reached out to me to make sure he appeared for why he needed an additional continuance.

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Which case is that? Excuse me, Chair. This is, I believe we discussed this last night.

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it is 4625 wayne avenue yes it's number 10 the rco requested the continuance and the

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applicant agreed to it but i agree it should be a must be heard okay so when i get to that

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i'll make a note when i get to it must be heard okay i think that you've already announced it

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Must be heard.

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Okay.

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I think that you've already announced it as continued.

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It has continued.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'll read it into the record again.

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MI 2020-000282-4625 Wayne Avenue is continued.

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Must be heard.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, kindly Chair.

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Thank you.

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Any other requests for continuances or withdrawals for the 930 list?

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I see no hands share. Thank you. With that, we can begin. I didn't leave anything off. Did I, Sharon?

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So far? No, nothing so far.

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1431-33 is an add-on, correct? North 20th?

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Yes, you're going to call that at the end after I've spoken.

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You want to wait. Right. Hold to the end. All right. MI 2021-001481, 1213 Crease, C-R-E-A-S-E Street.

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mr dorizio has been promoted to panelists good morning sir please identify yourself

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I'll spell your full name, and I'll swear you in.

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Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the board.

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Raymond Dorizio representing 1213 Cree Street.

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My address is 2 Penn Center, Suite 520, Philadelphia PA 19102.

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And the owner of the property is, he is on the call, Vincent Cianciotti.

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I'll spell your last name, please, for the record.

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d-o-r-i-z-i-o we're affirmed to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes i do thank you please proceed sir you will agree to waive the reading of its refusal and

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stipulate to attackers i do and have you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents

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proof of ownership proof of tax compliance copy of the refusal or referral photos and plans five

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days prior to this area? Yes. Have you met with the RCO and have a letter? Yes, we have met with

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the RCO. I sent the letter a couple days after that. I received it after I sent the packet,

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but we did meet. Thank you. So this is 1213 Cree Street. This is our application to legalize a

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duplex. We have a refusal. If I could share my screen. I'm going to pull up

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packet here. And we have a refusal to RSA five district to dwelling units in an existing

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structure. That was our refusal. We did sign a timely appeal. This property is located between

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East Thompson Street and Girard Avenue. My client and his wife have basically owned this since the

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late 90s. There was a deed between wife and husband in 2015, which is the current deed,

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which i'm going through right now um these are the plans essentially it's a two-story

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unit there it's set back off the street um he's proposing the first floor one bedroom with the

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second floor a two-bedroom property there is parking this is a picture of the property

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it's the one on the right next to this wooden fence here uh not the one with the white car

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in the driveway there. Originally, my client purchased this property and his family lived

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there. He had his mother and his sister in there. And essentially what he did was he had his mother

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living in there kind of as an in-ball suite with his sister and her family there. They lived there

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for the first few years in the property. Here's some photos of the interior.

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there are tenants in there now sorry that was upside down these are some photos so essentially

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after they left is when he rented it out there was a previous I believe the community indicated

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this he previously went before the community on this I'm not sure if he actually pursued his

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appeal before the ZBA I don't think that he did this is my client's tax clearance

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um again he's had this property for over 20 years um he's looking to try to legalize it

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we did meet with the community i believe they sent a letter in opposition um based on you know my

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I believe they sent a letter in opposition based on, you know, my client doing this so long ago and I guess never really pursuing it.

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client

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But there are other multifamilies in the area.

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There's some CMX one and two on the corners of the streets here.

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My client is sort of in the middle of the block.

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He's about two thirds up the street towards Girard Avenue.

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um and that's essentially what he's looking to do to try to legalize the property

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um and moving forward from there and my client is on the call i believe

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you might see uh but that in this photo are there separate utilities i believe that there

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i believe that there are do you have any photos showing the uh the utilities i don't think i have

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any photos no attached showing the utilities my client could could basically give more of

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that information mr chatti do you hear us i do okay so you heard my oh hold on hold on hold on

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One moment, Mr. Cianciotti, please spell your full name and I'll swear you in.

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It is Vincent, V-I-N-C-E-N-T, last name C-I-A-N-C-I-O-T-T-I.

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You swear for him to tell the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Thank you.

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Please proceed, Mr. D'Orazio.

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Thank you.

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So, Mr. Cianciotti, you heard my testimony so far.

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Right. Based on your knowledge, is that a true and accurate representation? And would you adopt that as your own?

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Yes.

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Okay. Now, the chairman did have a question as far as the utilities were concerned. Are they separate in there? Is that correct?

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or they are yes um they are all separate and if you view the picture that is up on the screen that

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i see now to the right of the front door on the first floor level there is two electric meters

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right there yeah but i can see it better now the other one was the far shot i thought it was but

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i wasn't this is this makes it easier to see thank you yes and to the left to the left underneath the

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concrete steps there are two gas meters under there and just just for um just for purpose

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this has been this is this picture is a little older so the the fascia has been fixed up there

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that was a windstorm i didn't know i sent that picture okay to the right over the door

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yes to the left over the left i'm sorry

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all right so so correct me if i'm wrong your family you had family members living in one unit

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and you were in the other unit actually it was my mother and my sister and my mother kind of

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lived downstairs my sister was upstairs we you know had newborns and she was up there but it

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was like one unit like kind of like an in-law suite slash home and then my um my sister decided

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to move and took my mother with me with her and then um you know i had this i had this property

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that was set up like this so i decided to rent it out as a duplex and i went for i i applied for

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zoning in 2004 and you know life for me in 2004 2003 just got hectic and I believe I withdrew it

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or I didn't was not able to make the ZBA hearing I can't remember back that far but um you know

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it's been operating you know pretty good no violations anything the city does tell me to fix

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or change i do taxes are up to date um i don't bring trouble i'm not a nuisance to the block

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have you been paying your rental license well that's the one thing that um i haven't been able

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to do because i can't apply for it i tried to apply for it but i can't apply for it because

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of the zoning so this right okay do you manage the property mr chinchot are you the person that

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the tenants would call to resolve issues yes i am i am the manager and i have managed it for

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years okay all right uh any questions from the board no no anyone else would like to

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testify in this case please raise your hand i see no handshare waiting commission good morning

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Planning Commission. Good morning, David Fecteau, F-E-C-T-E-A-U with the City Planning Commission.

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David Fecto, F.

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You swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, sir, I do. Please proceed. Thank you, sir. Mr. Chairman, members of the board,

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the Comprehensive Plan recommends this property for single-family use. L&I's Zoning Archive

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shows that a refusal for two units was issued for this property in 2004 there is no evidence that

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the refusal was appealed we have to assume the work proceeded without permits we recommend that

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the board deny the requested variances 2004 huh okay um mi 2021 that's zero zero one four eight

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1213 Cree Street, my vote is no.

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Confessor Plaza, my vote is no.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is no.

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MI 2021-001494, 1318 Rittner Street.

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Lower Moinesing Civic has sent a letter of support

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