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ZBA Hearing - April 2, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Apr 2, 20257h 53m

last name barnes b as in boy a-r-n-e-s you sure affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and

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nothing but the truth yes sir please proceed cynthia yes i am the um co-director of the

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nice town tiger improvement team and this um ish zona issue was brought to us in may

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with only a turnout of five people and at the time the the folks in attendance i was in attendance

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were not sure about what was actually going on and when one of the neighbors brought out that

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she never got a flyer and she lives on the block down the street from where this all was happening

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on hilton street so we said that since the community that was the near

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on hilton street so we said that since the community that was the near neighbors weren't

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Nate

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there we would host another meeting to get the input and that's when the 25 people came

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but the other thing is it was a lot of um negative uh um texas back and forth and um from the lawyer

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that was very

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unpleased that the community

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didn't want this

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in the neighborhood, saying that

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this is why we don't have

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anything, because everybody

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always votes no against it.

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I'm sorry, I'm going to object.

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It's not accurate.

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Can she object to me?

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Why don't we do that?

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That's slander.

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I didn't say nothing to her.

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Listen to me.

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Let her finish her testimony.

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I'll give you a chance at the end to respond to orders.

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i have copies of her texts and her emails so the problem is when they just kept saying

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um sober gym which put up alarms is like why like planet fitness do you go in there and say i'm going

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to a sober gym you know and then offering all these other things to the community just for us

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to approve it this is a very high drug area and this always has been i live two blocks down the

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street so i already know that not only two blocks away is bethune elementary school that it has

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children and also be a jump crossing which is a new apartment with like 42 residents in it and

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that's where the meeting was actually held there is i haven't had one person in our community that

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that was for this gym.

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And it is close to Kensington

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because of the way they're moving Kensington,

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that people are moving up to like Lehigh

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and we're not that far from Lehigh Avenue.

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Okay, all right.

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Thank you, Cynthia.

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We appreciate your comments.

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Next hand, please.

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I have a hand up from Casey Cahoe.

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I've allowed them to speak.

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Could you please state your name

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and spell for the stenographer. Yes. Hi. Can you hear me? I can. Yes. My name is, sorry about the

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picture there. My name is Casey Kehoe, C-A-S-E-Y, latest name Kehoe, K-E-H-O-E. Do you swear or

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affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? Yes. Please proceed. Are you a

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neighbor? I am not a neighbor. No, I am a Phoenix member now volunteer for the Phoenix. I just

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wanted to come on and just say that um you know this program uh is is very near and dear to my

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heart um you know i originally started as a member and then through the phoenix i was able to be

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sponsored to obtain my athletic training certification and i'm now able to um volunteer

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and train classes so um i definitely support this community this building and um yeah that's pretty

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much all i wanted thank you very much for your comments how many more hands do you have

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not sure i've got uh six left six okay um first is brian rothbart i've got them to speak

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all right i could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer yes hi my name

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is brian rothbart b-r-i-a-n-r-o-t-h-b-a-r-t you should i refer him to tell the truth told

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truth nothing but the truth yes i do are you a neighbor i'm not a neighbor uh i run a business

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catering to the sober community okay and i have work hold on a moment are you in favor of this

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project or against i'm in favor yes all right thank you very much for taking the time to calls

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next hand please next hand is suzy payne i've allowed them to speak hi suzy could you please

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state your name and spell for the stenographer hi there we uh we have a group here so i it's

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actually meek is gonna state his name we're just all on a all together on the zoom here

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okay could you state your name and spell it humble meek re that's h-u-m-b-l-e middle name is m-e-e-k

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last name is r-e-i-d right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the

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truth? I do. Are you in favor of this project or against? In favor. Are you a neighbor? I am.

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All right, next person, please.

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Susie, do you have more people there? Yes, my name is Joseph DeMilto.

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I can spell your name, please, for the stenographer. Yes, it's J-O-S-E-P-H-B-E-M-I-L-T-O.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes. Are you a neighbor? No, I work in the community. Okay. Could you, uh, are you in

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yes are you a neighbor no i work in the community okay

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favor of this project or against? In favor. Thank you very much. Next person, please.

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Good morning. How are you doing? Good afternoon. Thank you. Hi, could you please state your name

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and spell for the stenographer? This is Najee Faison. It's spelled N-I-Z-J-A, last name F-A-I-S-O-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, told the truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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A neighbor, yes, sir.

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Are you in favor of this proctor or against?

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In favor.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to call.

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Next person, please.

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Hi, my name is Jennifer Carroll, J-E-N-N-I-F-E-R-C-A-R-R-O-L-L.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, told the truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Do you?

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Are you a neighbor?

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No, I work in the neighborhood.

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are you in favor of the project or against in favor miss pain how many more people do you have

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there two more we have two more folks okay please next person yeah good afternoon louis soto

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could you say your name again and spell for the stenographer uh louis l-u-i-s soto s-o-t-o

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right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth told truth nothing but the truth

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Yes, I do.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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Yes, I do. I'm in favor.

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And are you a neighbor?

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Community member.

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Thank you very much. Next hand, please.

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You're welcome.

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All right, good afternoon.

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My name is Thaddeus Parker.

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My name is Thaddeus Parker, T-H-A-D-D-E-U-S, Parker, P-A-R-K-E-R.

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All right, do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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I am in favor. I'm a neighbor and a community worker.

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All right. Thank you very much. Is that your list, Ms. Payne?

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Yes, that's our list. Thank you.

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Next hand in the virtual audience.

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I'm Mr. Ava, Ty Jones. I've allowed them to speak.

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Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Hi, my name is Tyra Jones, T-Y-R-A-J-O-N-E-S.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I'm a community partner.

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Are you a favor of this practice or against?

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I'm in favor.

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Thank you very much for calling.

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Next hand, please.

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Yes, Tito Capa, I've allowed them to speak.

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Could you please state your name as Bell for the stenographer?

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Yes, my name is Tito Capa, T-I-T-O-C-A-B-A.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I am a community partner.

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Are you in favor of this project or against?

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I am in favor.

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All right.

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How many more hands do you have there, Chase?

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I've got at least two more hands, Mr. Chair.

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I got a barrel cold with their hand raised.

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I've allowed them to speak.

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All right.

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Please state your name and spell for the stenographer.

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Oh, wait.

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I'm sorry.

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They put their hand down.

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Okay.

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Last hand is...

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oh wait i'm sorry they put their hand up again a barrel cohen okay thank you um

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army yeah i'll call him please uh wait to be sworn in okay what what's what's state your

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name and spell for the stenographer my name is beryl cohen b-e-r-y-l-c-o-h-e-n do you swear

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we're referring to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do are you a neighbor

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uh no i'm a phoenix volunteer i could do um are you in favor of this project or against

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i am in favor all right thank you very much for taking time to calls

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uh council before i go to uh planning could you have any comments yeah so i'll say this i don't

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think in 10 years of doing this i would ever say to any organization this is why you have what you

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have or whatever i don't speak like that so it's offensive to me um that anybody would say that

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about me, number one. So I have to address that. Number two, I left out a lot of what went on

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in out of respect for the organization and some of the ways that they decided to handle this.

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And there was things that went on early on before we even got to address the formal community

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where there were emails and things about what this was that was not coming from our organization.

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I left that out because we want to move on from these things and work together with people.

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So I'll leave that there. I also want to make sure that we made it clear that these are a group of people that are ADA protected. And the only opposition to this project from that organization was because we're trying to help people with substance abuse disorder.

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It had nothing to do with the size of the building, the dimensions of the building, the lighting, the color, anything. It all had to do with we don't want you servicing those people, which is completely federally illegal. And so let's just.

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you servicing those people which is completely federally illegal and so let's just make that

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plainly clear okay um last thing i just want to mention when i that i didn't get to was

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if you look at the comprehensive plan for this area and i'm sure the planning commission will

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address this it's suggested that this be rezoned icmx and if that was the case we wouldn't even be

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here so we are proposing something that makes sense for for this area and i think that over

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time people will actually really appreciate that this is thank you very much planning commission

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Excuse me, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry to interrupt you again, but there's two more hands raised. They're both named Clayton Pickens. I'm going to allow the first one to speak, if you must.

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Please state your name as Bell for the stenographer.

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Hello? My name is Clayton Pickens. I am living in the neighborhood.

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Do me a favor, Clayton, spell your name for the stenographer.

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And I'm speaking because they voted no for that project.

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Clayton, Clayton, please spell your name for the stenographer.

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My name is spelled C-L-A-Y-T-O-N.

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Last name is Pickens, P-I-C-K-E-N-S.

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Thank you.

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Do you swear or affirm the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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And Clayton, you're a neighbor.

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Yes, I am.

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Please proceed.

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Are you in favor or against?

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Against.

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All right.

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Thank you very much.

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we appreciate you taking the time the calls next last hand please

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okay that's all mr chair planning commission

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thank you chairman and good afternoon dave defecto f-e-c-t-e-a-u with the city planning commission

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do you swear or firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes sir i do please

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proceed thank you sir uh chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends a

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change in zoning at this location from rm1 residential multifamily to icmx industrial

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and commercial mixed use the proposed use would be allowed in the recommended zoning district

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so the city planning commission recommends of the board grant a proposed use variance for a gymnasium

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thank you um council we've had a lot of testimony on this we'll go to this next wednesday at 2 p.m

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you very much for your testimony.

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Number 12, MI 2024-007-375-2024 R Street.

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Robert Careless is the attorney.

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My counsel, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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