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ZBA Hearing - July 16, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 16, 20255h 36m

certainly want to hit the highlights. The property was properly posted. We do have a letter of

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support, as you know. We have another letter of support from Len Polachek, who's next door. This

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is a refusal for, let me go down here, this is the front access and the rear area that we're

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talking about. This is a request for a subdivision of the rear property. The rear property is a gap

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to, so to speak, between two large single-family homes on light gout. So this property from

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843 North Lawrence Street is through to LifeGal and what I'm showing

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the board is LifeGal Street. This here

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is the gap that we're talking about and the client has provided

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a survey to subdivide this lot off

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approximately 760 square feet.

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Let me show you that.

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Survey of postings front and back. This is the front of the

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property. And let me expand this a little bit. Okay. So here is the survey. Oops. That's

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what happened.

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Here's the survey.

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This is the property

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843 North Lawrence Street

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through a light gout. What I showed you

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in the photographs just

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a second ago was

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these two houses which sort

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of border

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the property. We're seeking

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to subdivide this

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lot off, have no changes to

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843 North Lawrence, which is an

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old period house and it's going to remain the single family house with a backyard and we wish to

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period house and it's going to remain the single family house with a backyard and we wish to

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border this off and sell this or make it available to sale or development because it'll be consistent

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i tell you the truth i'm really having a hard time hearing you i'm sorry okay i go to my audio

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yeah okay can you hear me better i hear you a little better but i mean just just try to tell

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us what you're doing there yeah what we want to do is subdivide the uh property uh at 843 north

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lawrence here right is to create this lot here which is now uh surrounded by two large single

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family homes um on light gout street so that would make this parcel b uh available for development

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it. And just to go back, just to make sure you see this, that's the lot that we want to subdivide,

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and this is Leifgau Street. So Leifgau Street already has all these single-family homes,

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and this is the lot we're seeking to subdivide off. The refusal is that this is an undersized

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lot is just under 800 square feet but we're asking the board to approve the subdivision

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because it is consistent with what's been done on lifegall street here

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so so parcel a is the one that you've already built

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right parcel a is not going to be changed right

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it's this property here right 43 right right here it's part right yep yep

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You're going to take a portion of that and put it with the other parcel.

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That's correct.

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This particular lot goes all the way through to LifeGal, and the properties on LifeGal have been previously subdivided over the years to put in those single-family homes.

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So this is what we're seeking is to do the lot that would allow consistent development as exists on LifeGal Street.

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and uh as you know we have a uh letter of support from uh northern liberty's neighbors association

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yep i see it and i don't know if you see this one but we have a letter of support from

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len polachek who's the immediate neighbor on light gow street who supports

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this particular subdivision right okay you want to bring your client on yeah sure uh

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Well, I think Peter Torelli may be here. Are you there, Peter?

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Michelle or Peter Torelli?

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Peter Torelli should be coming back in as a panelist.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Hello, hello. This is Peter Torelli.

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Hi, Mr. Torelli. Could you turn your video on, please?

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Say it one more time.

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Could you turn your video on?

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Yes, give me one second.

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Sure, sure.

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Are you able to see me?

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I do, sir.

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So could you please state your name and spell it for the stenographer?

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Peter Torelli, P-E-T-E-R-T-O-R-E-L-L-I.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Counsel, could you please proceed?

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Thank you. Peter, have you heard my presentation about the subdivision of this lot on Lythgall Street?

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Yes.

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And would you testify similarly and adopt my testimony as true and correct at this time?

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Yes, sir.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board.

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yes um so how big are the majority of the lots on leithgow street that you all are using as

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reference uh they're between 650 and 750 square feet generally

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and you have do you have a survey drawing that shows that

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And the survey that I have here shows the adjacent.

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Okay.

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Here you go.

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This is, these are at least the two of them, 848 and 854.

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And these are the properties that exist on North Lawrence Street.

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And these both have approximately backyards in this area here.

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So these these properties are on. I don't have the deeds in the file, but these properties are about 650 square feet.

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you're saying the adjacent properties because i just know most of the houses on life scale street

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You're saying the adjacent properties, because I just know most of the house.

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while they are squatter in lot there many of them have been subdivided from smaller lots

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and are wider so a lot of them are closer to 28 to 30 feet wide um which makes most of them

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slightly larger than the parcel b that you all are dividing it into i think my concern

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is that on the Lawrence Street side, you have a lot of three-story homes and putting a three-story

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home, if somebody were to come back and try to use Parcel A in the future, it would now be an

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under 750 square foot lot with a three-story home. That's very dense and very tight to match

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the context that's already existing on that block face. Well, the properties on Lawrence Street

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are these properties generally two stories.

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The properties on Leifgau Street

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and there's into the backyard

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are generally three stories.

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This is the existing view of Leifgau Street.

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This is our lot right here.

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And you can see these are all three stories

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with backyards.

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And we're presuming they're going to be backyards.

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The backyard at 843

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three is approximately 14 square feet and i'm sorry in the backyards on these properties usually

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are nine feet yeah but you're going off to backyard dimensional variant like dimensions

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for example 841 north lawrence street is 965 square feet which is almost 200 square feet more

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than the proposed lot that you are subdividing from so while your 1400 is closer to the typical

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Philadelphia lot at 1460, that the subdivision into 750 and 744 actually makes it really undersized

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compared to the neighbors on that block. Well, I could send you that. I don't believe 848 and 854.

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854 is essentially a double because they have a garage. And this is the one supported by Len

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Palachuk that I showed you. That's a double lot. It's 854, 856. However, 848 is a smaller lot,

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actually, than what we're proposing. And all I can tell you is almost all of these,

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I think all of these that I'm showing, yeah, have been subdivided off of North Lawrence Street.

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So what we're doing is we have the space that's like a tube gap here and so forth. And these have

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all been sold and developed, and the lots from Lawrence Street through the Light Gower

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were all substantially similar.

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I think he put a double lot at 854, but the other lots were generally 16, 16 plus by 90

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feet, but they were subdivided.

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854, for example, is 1,263 square feet.

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It's a double lot.

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it is but it is still one house on 1200 square feet we can only do what 848 has done here

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and 848 is actually i believe a smaller lot i don't if you have a dimension you can tell me

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what 848 is but 854 um 856 is supported by mr polachek and and but he has a uh a double lot

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Len Palachuk is 854, 856.

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He's supporting the development, you know, of this particular lot.

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The problem is all you have now is a lot on Lighthouse Street that's bounded by, you know, blank walls on both sides.

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And all they're trying to do is, you know, draw a line back here, which would be consistent with their rear yards

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and still allow for a 14-foot rear yard for 843, which is here.

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These properties are fairly consistent here, 843, 840, I think that's 841,

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are fairly consistent on here.

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It's 841.

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841 and 843 are pretty consistent

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older homes with an

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alleyway through to the backyard

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here they are

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here

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so I think the one

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that you're citing at 854

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856 purchased

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essentially two rocks

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so Mr. Perry

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is there any other questions from the board

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any questions from our attorney Hillary Emerson

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not at this time

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any questions from the virtual audience do not see any hands mr chair here's here's what i'm

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going to do mr perry um we're going to i'm going to have the planning department give their position

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We're going to I'm going to have the planning department give their position and then I'm going to hold the vote until next Wednesday at 2 p.m.

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OK, I'm going to take this to executive session and we're going to try to figure this out ourselves exactly where we stand.

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OK, OK. So by square footage, I just needed.

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OK, planning commission.

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Good afternoon, Nina Solomonic with the planning commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning from the existing RSA 5 residential single family.

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The minimum lot area required in the RSA 5 residential zoning district is 960 square feet, whereas the proposed lot areas of 744.46 square feet, parcel A, and 750 square feet, parcel B, are prohibited.

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The applicant has not shown that the existing parcel could be used in conformance with the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the Zoning Board deny the variance.

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So, Mr. Perry, we've had your presentation.

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We have all the documents.

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I'm going to take that to executive session next Wednesday morning at about 845, and we

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will vote on this at 2 p.m., okay?

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Thank you very much.

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Yeah, thank you, sir.

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I appreciate it.

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Is there anyone in the virtual audience whose case has not been called?

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I do not see any hands, Mr. Chair.

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have a good night all

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