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ZBA Hearing - January 29, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 29, 20256h 11m

Thank you, Michael. Anyone else on the

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board? Yes, a question.

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Okay, so you're just doing

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regular vehicle

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repair and maintenance,

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no body and fender

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or spray paint.

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Correct. There's no body work.

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Okay. And then you said that there won't be any kind of tire storage there.

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You will change tires, but you won't be storing tires there?

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That's correct.

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How's that work?

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So the company that my client uses to bring the new tires,

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he'll order them as customers come in, whatever tire size is needed.

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The company that brings the tire at the same time will take the waste tire away.

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It's part of the contract.

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So they take the waste tire on the spot when they deliver the new tires to be fitted.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Questions from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the audience?

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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No answer, Mr. Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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Thank you, Chairman, and good morning.

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david vecto with the city planning commission chairman and board members the comprehensive

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plan recommends no change to the rsa5 residential single-family zoning at this location this lot

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is uniquely shaped and the long-standing structure prevents the property from being used in strict

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conformity with the zoning code however vehicle repair and maintenance is not compatible with a

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primarily residential block base the city planning commission recommends the board grant sorry the

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board deny the proposed use variants for personal vehicle repair and maintenance thank you mi2023

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006 399 5044 west avenue i vote yes for a temporary variance that expires 2-1-28

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michael johns who does yes with proviso

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cheryl gaston my vote is yes with proviso tenetta graham my vote is yes with proviso

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Taya Nguyen, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Thank you, counsel.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Number 16, MI 2024-005-963, 5430 to 44 Paschal Avenue, Katina Carter-Geiger.

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There's support from this from the Southwest Consortium of RCOs.

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I come back in as a panelist.

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Come back in as a panelist.

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Southwest District Service.

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Southwest District Services.

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Councilman Gauthier agrees.

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I didn't get a chance to swear you in last time.

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Am I correct?

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You did.

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You did swear me, but I could do it again.

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All right.

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Our vice chair has a few questions for you.

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Yes.

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have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits as needed to

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proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing yes i did

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thank you you may proceed and share your screen

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Hold on. I put share. Can you sit? Oh, share.

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It's coming up now.

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Okay.

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I'm Katina Geiger. I'm from Virtual Preventive Care Services.

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We are a company that provides services to individuals with intellectual disabilities and autism.

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We are currently serviced every county in Pennsylvania, in the Philadelphia region, which what we want to open up is a day program for them, where they will come and they will learn skills for working, they will learn skills to be a part of the community.

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um growing demand for services so the service that we want to provide there is a growing demand

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for the services there's an increasing number of individuals with intellectual disabilities

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and autism in the community who need specialized training to live independently secure employment

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employment and engage meaningfully in their communities limited local resources while there

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are so many services available there are often limited to scope lack sufficient capacity and

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don't fully address the diverse needs of individuals with intellectual disabilities

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and autism in the in that particular area state support and policy the pennsylvania office of

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Developmental Disabilities has emphasized the importance of supporting individuals with

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intellectual disabilities and autism in achieving greater independence and quality of life aligning

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with the services we provide. Community Impact, our facility will fill the critical gap by offering

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tailored programs that enhance skills in daily lives, vocational training, and social participation,

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ensuring that these adults have the tools that they need to thrive.

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We will have vocational training.

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What we provide is vocational training, daily living skills, social and community engagement,

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life skills workshops, personalized support, family and caregiver support, job placement,

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and retention support.

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Vocational training.

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We provide hands-on job skills, training to help individuals with intellectual disabilities and autism gain meaningful employment, focusing on building skills to real-world job opportunities and self-sufficiency.

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Daily living skills training.

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Our program teaches essential skills such as budgeting, cooking, personal care, and time management to increase independence in daily lives.

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Social and community engagement.

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We offer social programs that help participants develop communication skills, build friendships, and engage with their community in meaningful ways.

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Personalized support.

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Each participant will receive a tailored plan that addresses their unique goals, strengths, and challenges with one-on-one support from trained staff.

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Life Skills Workshop.

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we heard we host workshop focus on self-advocacy self-making and health management to empower

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individuals to make informed choices about their lives miss geiger miss geiger miss geiger here so

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i think what would be important remember this hearing is about the property so why don't you

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show us the property and start talking about the building itself okay so the property i do have some

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photos of the property. So the property was formerly a banquet hall. This is a picture of

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the bathroom, which the sinks are lowered to ADA regulations. This is what it formerly was. We have

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ADA regulations. This is what it formerly was. We have not done any work on the building as of yet.

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not to any.

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We only have pictures of what it was hoping to get this variance so that it can pay. So these

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are the former, these are the pictures of what it looks like now. It's an open concept to the

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building. I'm going to show you the inside and then I'm going to go to the outside of the building.

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this is what it was it was a banquet hall which we're trying to change the use now

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to use it for the purpose that we have this is what it looked like

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formally well now this is what it looks like now

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uh we also have pictures and the powerpoint so miss geiger could you do could you show us what

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Do you have plans on what it's going to be?

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Yes, this is a future plan.

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Thank you.

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No problem.

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Here, this is what we hope for the open concept would be to set up different tables for them, to set up different areas for them.

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and on

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on the outside

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it has its own parking lot

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so here we will have it well lit

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here we will have

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handicapped parking

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along with other parking

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And so it won't take up parking on the street.

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That's what it formally looked like until it got fixed up.

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Those are all the photos that I have.

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How many people do you think you'll have a day?

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So the program only allows you to have 25 individuals.

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That would be the full capacity of the program.

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You can only have 25 individuals at a time and about 10 to 15 employees working.

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Is there anything else you have to show us?

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No, just the presentation that I put together.

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Okay. Questions from the board?

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Yes. When you say adults, what are we talking about in terms of the age range?

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18 and over.

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Okay. And how, you have a parking lot, so they're going to drive there or someone's going to drive them there?

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Or do you have other ways of transporting people to the facility?

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Yes, we have veins, we have handicap accessible buses, paratransit buses, and some of the individuals, if their family choose to drop them off, they can, and if they choose for us to pick them up and drop them off, we can.

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Okay, and they're referred by an agency or something?

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Yes, the Office of, ODP, the Office of Developmental Programs, yes.

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ah okay and so they do some kind of screening process and tell you what kind of services

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absolutely okay all right and then uh you said you're going to have like 10 to 15 employees

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this is this is like adult daycare if you will right it's not we can't call it daycare but yes

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I don't mean it in that sense, I mean, it's not like a living facility.

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No, it's not.

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They come there, correct.

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So what are we talking about in terms of hours of operation?

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They'll come in at 8 and be going by 5.

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Okay, all right.

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And will there be services on, like, the weekends or just?

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No, Monday through Friday.

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Okay.

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All right, thank you.

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Other questions from the board?

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Yeah, so what code regulations will you be utilizing from the state?

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Is this under the Regulation 6400?

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Yes, Regulations.

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No, not 6400.

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Some of the policies have to come from 6400, but it would be listed as a day program facility.

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And you'll be dealing with CPS clients, consumers, correct?

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That is correct, yes.

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all right thank you all the questions from the board is this the only facility that you will

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have or do you have a current facility as a day program this will be the first one

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okay and your experience um we've been around since 2016 we currently serve

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We've been around since 2016. We currently serve. We do CPS, but we do it out in the community. We presently don't have a facility. That's why we're hoping to get this one.

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We provide nursing services for them. We provide in-home and community support. We provide a lot of services for them. Behavior, health, I have a very big staff.

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Thank you.

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Questions or comments from our attorney? Hillary Emerson.

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the audience?

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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Yes, Chair. I have a hand up from Craig Melodostein. I've allowed him to speak.

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Good morning, Craig. Please state your name and spell for the stenographer.

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Good morning. Craig C-R-A-I-G.

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Last name.

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I'm sorry. I dropped out. They switched me over.

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I see. Craig, C-R-A-I-G, last name Melodosian, M-E-L-I-D-O-S-I-A-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do, Chair Bergman.

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Please proceed, sir.

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I wanted to indicate right off the bat that the RCOs that gathered on the meeting at 12-5 unanimously support this.

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our one concern was at the meeting we did not have the benefit of the illustrations here today

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as well as the lease so we wanted to clarify that in fact because of the number of people

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participating in the program both as staffs and clients that there would be ample off-street

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parking. The area is already congested. On the west face or west elevation of the property

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is Linmore, the 5500 block of Linmore, which has single family row homes on both sides of the

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street and only one lane for parking. People are currently parking on 55th Street, perpendicular

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to the street. So it's important that we be able to get the cars onto the lot. The second issue

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that was raised by Mr. Horn with HORN, with the Southwest District Services, was hours of

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operation. I've personally been involved with this project since 2010, and there have been a series

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of i'll simply say speakeasies and unlicensed halls in there uh attracting cease and desist

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and the most recent one which you've seen pictures of uh failed an after hours investigation

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on 326 24 i think with 19 violations associated with operation uh structural issues etc

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So what we're indicating is we think this is the best presentation we've seen for this location, though it's I2, in the last 15 years.

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So we'd simply ask that we codify hours of operation and off-street parking if they're provisible.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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so just to comment if there isn't parking already available on site we can't require

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some sort of off-site parking um but we can put in an hours of operation proviso and i thought

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the hours of operation were 8a to 5p am i correct yes okay and what days what days a week

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Monday, Monday, Friday, right. Okay. Um, and, and, um, Ms. Geiger, are you agreeable to a proviso with those that would limit the hours of operation? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Um, anyone else in the virtual audience?

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No further hands, Mr. Chair. Any commission?

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thank you chair bergman and good morning david ekta with the city planning commission

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chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the i2 medium industrial

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zoning at this location the city changed the zoning maps in this neighborhood in 2012

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in a community supported map change this building is located on a primarily residential block face

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