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ZBA Hearing - March 8, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 8, 20233h 49m

it said it's an option opens reasons okay uh go on to all of that

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we did that you still see nothing no we don't see anything

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nikki any suggestions yeah i was going to say are you getting any messages asking you to give

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us permission to view anything i believe because we're on your computer you're just not sharing

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the right view. May I speak? Yes. Oh, well, I'm not sure. Well, this is, this is my wife, my other

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half. Okay. All right. So let me, let her, let her state her name and I'll swear it. Hi, my name is

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Chao An Hua. Could you spell it please for the court reporter? C-H-A-U, middle name, A-N-H, last

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name h-u-a right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the

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truth yes your chairman proceed proceed okay what i see is say uh on the upper is a new share

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is green folder and then um the next word is a stop share in the red icon

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okay so we're saying share screen does it give you different options

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no it doesn't give me any option it just say you are screen sharing and then there is the

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green button on top is say a new share so should i click on that yeah click on that let's see what

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that gives us okay and they say desktop one whiteboard iphone desktop one desktop one okay

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and this has the okay now it say allow zoom to share your screen open system preference

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yes okay okay now i did open it

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and is it what does it give you in a system preference

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When I click on System Preference, then it disappears. Let me see if I see anything on here.

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Somehow you have to allow us to view. So when you open System Preference,

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So when you open system preference, you should see a button that says allow.

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you should see a button that says allow.

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See, that's what I thought that I would see that, but I still didn't see it.

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Let me see.

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Security, privacy.

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Okay, it says security, privacy, privacy, and it doesn't.

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Okay. Maybe I check the zoom here. Okay. Hold on. Go back.

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Okay. On the security problem. Okay. Should I add zoom?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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It's a general

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by far firewall

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privacy.

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Yeah, you have to somehow

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get around your firewall. I don't know

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which one you have, but you have to allow

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us to view it.

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Okay.

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Okay, let me turn it on.

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I think that's what it is.

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I don't know how to, oh, click here to make a change.

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Okay.

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Password.

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Unlock.

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Okay.

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Now I unlock, and then how do I turn on the firewall?

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Should I go advanced?

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Okay, you turned off the firewall. Do you allow Zoom? Go back to share and see if you can share your desktop.

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Okay.

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Okay, should the firewall turn on or off?

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Turn your firewall off.

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Okay, so I think it's already off. Okay.

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And then share, and then you want to do desktop.

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Okay, and then we go ahead and share.

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Share screen.

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Okay, and then, okay, now I hit share again.

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New share.

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Desktop.

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Share.

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Allow Zoom to share your screen.

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which is we allowed it yes allows them to share your screen okay

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now i did allow it and then it's had the it's going back to general security and privacy again

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yeah you guys have some type of firewall that's preventing us from viewing your screen

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um that we're having a hard time getting past okay i clicked on the zoom already so

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this should be done

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let me try

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that again

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Mr.

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Phan

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could you unmute please

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Mr. Fahm

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you're muted

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could you unmute

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you're muted

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thank you Mr. Fahm

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you know we're tried

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we've tried here and we just can't

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seem to get through

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Um, what I'm going to recommend is that, uh, we continue this and you get yourself some help

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on figuring out how to do this, because I think it probably would be an easy solution if somebody

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could sit down with you and do it. And then is there any way that we can get them back in a

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little bit quicker? Yes. I'll have staff, staff reach out to them chair. All right. So here's

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what we're going to do. We're going to continue it. We'll be in touch with you on how to get you

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back in quicker with what a date that'll bring you back as quick as possible okay but in the

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meantime get some help with the computer and anything that we can help on the phone talking

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to you about we'll gladly do is it okay yes and we appreciate your trying and and i'm going to

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Yes, and we appreciate your trying and I'm going to thank the staff for trying it, but we'll get you back in as soon as possible.

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thank the staff for trying it but

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OK, thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Thank you.

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See here. Is there anyone in the morning?

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Listings, their case has not been called.

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I see no hands, Chair. OK, thanks, everyone.

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Excuse me. Do you see somebody?

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Yes, a phone user, phone number ending in 3552.

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Okay.

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Please unmute yourself.

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Good morning.

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Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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Yes, Adrienne Fernandez, F-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z.

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Right.

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Do you swear or firm to tell the truth, told the truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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What case, Adrienne?

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It is 2202-04, West Lehigh Avenue. And we were on the line waiting for, under the add-on section for the vote today. We were told we had to wait one week.

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Mr. Chair, this is Hillary. I can explain that. Adrian, this case is a remand from the Court of Common Pleas. The vote is held. I don't know if you've heard the chair read the statement in last week, but the vote is held for the preparation of supplemental findings of fact and conclusions of law, which are adopted with the vote. So these cases are not voted right away.

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okay yeah i did hear that but i didn't know um i think someone said next week so do you have an

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idea about how long we'll have to wait for the vote um i do not because we have to order the

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transcript and then the findings have to be prepared okay will we be um notified before

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the vote is taken um you'll be you'll be notified of the outcome of the case um we don't have a way

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to notify people of add-ons when they're going to be voted, because sometimes we don't know

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when they're going to be voted until the last minute. Okay, but it will be voted during the

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add-on period at one of the upcoming hearings? Yes, it will. Okay. I guess I'm asking, will we

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know before that hearing where it's going to be voted on, will we be notified of which hearing

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that will be? We do not have a way to do that right now. We are only able to notify people

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once the notices of decision have been issued.

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Okay, so there'll just be a vote

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and then a notice of decision?

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Yes.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you, thank you for calling in.

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Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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I see no hands, Chair.

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Thanks, everyone.

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See everyone at 2 p.m.

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Okay.

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See you later.

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Good afternoon. My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this afternoon's ZBA hearings.

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With me is our Vice Chair, Ismail Shahid.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Thomas Holliman, our board member.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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And James Snell, our board member.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Also present is our attorney, Hillary Emerson, and our executive director, Tanya Sunkett.

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Here's our virtual format. Be advised if proceedings are being recorded. The video will

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be available by contacting tanyasunkett at phil.gov. For the benefit of our court stenographer,

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we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone, if you wish to testify, press star nine to raise your hand

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and star six to unmute. To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548, leave your email

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and the address of the property in question. And finally, the question answer box on the screen

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is not for comments or testimony. All comments should be directed to our executive director,

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Tanya Suckett. Let's take a look at our continuances from this afternoon's list.

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Number two, MI 2022-006-107, 1421 North 17th Street. That case is continued. Number three,

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Number three, MI 2022-006-127-1433 North 17th Street. That case is continued.

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Number four, MI 2022-006-167-7054 Forest Avenue. That case is continued.

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7054 Forest Avenue, that case is continued. Number 10,

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MI 2022, 006105, 1412 North 17th Street, that case is continued.

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And number 12, MI 2021-004-544-4900 Reno Street. This case is continued attorney moving party

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at the request of the attorney for the applicant. Let's look at our withdrawals that we have.

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Number eight, MI-2022-003-467-3137 Willits Road. That case has been withdrawn.

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And number 11, MI-2022-006-036-1939-43E Sargent Street. That case is withdrawn.

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Is there anyone who has comments relative to the cases that have been continued?

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Good afternoon, Chair. This is Fatina L. I'll be your co-host for this afternoon.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome. I see no hands, Chair.

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Are there any other requests for continuances?

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I see no hands, Chair.

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Okay, so let's go to, we have an add-on list.

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number one mi 2022 005 915 90 red line road i vote no

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thomas holliman my vote is no

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james snell my vote is no thank you ishmael shaheed my vote is no

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Number two, MI 2022-005-913-1645 North Marshall Street, I vote yes with proviso.

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Revised plan, one page, stamped by ZBA, March 8th, 2023.

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Thomas Holliman, my vote yes with proviso.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Sorry, Bill, I was having a little technical difficulties there.

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Yes with Proviso.

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Thank you.

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Number three, MI2023-00840-526 Mercy Street.

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The vote on this matter will now be held on Wednesday, March 15th at 2 p.m.

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Number four, MI 2022-003-932-2352 North 29th Street. I vote yes. Temporary

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temporary variance expires 3-15-25.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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James Snell, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes with Proviso.

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And number five, MI 2021-004-536-1212 South 2nd Street. I vote yes with proviso. Revised plan, one page, stamped by ZBA, March 8th, 2023.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes with proviso.

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James Snell, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Ishmael Shaheed

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my vote is yes with proviso

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thank you we're going to go to our regular list

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number seven

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we're going to take seven first

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MI

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2022

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006114

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734

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Latona Street

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Kayla Fowler

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or

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Mitchell Moody

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there's a letter of opposition

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from the Peshon Square Civic Association

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a letter of opposition

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from Council Member Squilla

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and there's also a petition

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signed by approximately 39 people

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Chair, Mr. Moody

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has been promoted to a panelist

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we still have three hands up

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I'm sorry, Chair

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