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ZBA Hearing - July 8, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 8, 20263h 54m

I'm stating the same thing that I'm

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stating today, and they

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agreed that

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I should move forward

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to pursue the two-family dwelling.

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Okay, questions from the board.

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You've been operating as a two-family dwelling? Yes, ma'am.

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Okay, and what do you do about the trash for each unit?

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The trash is put out every Monday, and I pay for trash.

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So there's no issue with them storing trash non-trash days on the outside of the property?

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No, ma'am. I keep the police clean. Like you can see right there, I have other pictures showing that the corner is always free of debris, snow removal. I do everything to maintain my property for my tenants and for the neighborhood because I believe we are an asset in the neighborhood because my tenants also support other stores and businesses there.

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And I also have one of my tenants here attending to verify what I just stated.

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And is there a basement?

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And if so, what is it being used for?

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Storage.

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All right.

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And just for you or just for the first floor tenant?

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No, for me.

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Just for you.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Other questions?

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Questions from our attorney?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chairman.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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No hands at this time, Chair.

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Planning Commission good morning do you want to have sorry you want to come up

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good morning sir good morning good morning could you please state your name and spell

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for the stenographer my name is robert chisholm r-o-b-e-r-t-c-h-i-s-h-o-l-m do you swear or affirm

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to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes sir chisholm would would you like to tell

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us something about this property well i've been living there i've been a tenant there second floor

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for 12 13 years now and we have no problems there thank you very much and thank you for coming here

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we appreciate it okay i like i'm gonna let you know i like the neighborhood now

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she's a very good landlord and i have no problem you got her smiling

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she is a very good man but thank you very much we appreciate it planning commission

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thank you chairman and good morning david vecto f-e-c-t-e-a-u with the city planning commission

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you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes sir please proceed

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thank you sir chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the

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cmx2 commercial mixed-use zoning at this location this part of the neighborhood west of gross

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street still carries its original 1933 zoning designations at some point this ground floor

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front portion of the property was converted to a dwelling unit without the benefit of permits

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however there are no commercial corners at this intersection a commercial unit here would be

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However, there are no commercial corners at this intersection. A commercial unit here would be out of character with the block face. The city planning commission recommends that the board grant the proposed use variance for not including a commercial ground floor.

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Thank you very much. MI 2026, 000181, 400 North Grove Street. I vote yes.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes.

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Tonetta Graham, my vote is yes.

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Ryan McAdams, my vote is yes.

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Hi, Owen, my vote is yes.

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Layla Bibi, my vote is yes.

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Thank you. Thank you. Have your votes.

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And sir, again, thank you for coming down. We appreciate it. I appreciate you.

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All right, we're gonna go to number 11.

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MI 2026

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000

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340

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6311

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Horrock Street

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David Miller is the owner.

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Come on up.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Good morning, sir.

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Sorry.

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Okay.

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I got you.

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Good morning.

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Could you please state your name as Bell for the stenographer?

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David Miller, M-I-L-L-E-R.

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Excuse me.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Absolutely.

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Our Vice Chair has a few questions.

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Good morning.

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Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, I have.

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Okay. And you are here for personal services and single-family household living?

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And within single-family household living?

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Single-family household, yes.

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Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to, you were refused because that use, what you're trying to do,

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was prohibited in your RSA 5 district. You understand that?

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I understand, right? I'm not supposed to be teaching and...

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Yes. I'm just stating why you were here. So, okay, you can start your case and explain to

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us why you're here and what you're trying to do and you can show your exhibits sure i just uh

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upload them am i going to be am i staying as a stay as an attendee joins a panelist what am i

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joining panelists very good

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and there's the share okay i was wondering what happened to that okay so i'm a professional uh

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guitarist musician i've been uh playing for 52 years and uh playing professionally for over 40.

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I've been teaching my house. So the house I live in at 6311 Horrocks is the house actually I grew

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up in. My mom left me the house. And I've been teaching there since 1998. So it's been about

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28 years I've been teaching there. And I had, so I was, I got my variance in 2012. I didn't

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realize I didn't think about it and then I ended up getting a variance just to

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teach to teach guitar there I've been so I've been teaching it for 28 years I've

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never had so why don't you do this why don't you could you go on your screen

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sure right so if you're talking maybe we can start seeing what what we're talking

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about sure and from me show some pictures of the house yeah whatever you

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think you need to show. Good. So I'm going to actually see if I can just do this. I'm going

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to share a couple. So this is I'm going to share a couple older pictures of the house and then

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and then a couple newer ones because I always do the I do the front up. Try didn't try to make it

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a nice place. Now it's coming up. Okay, good. So I'm just going to show a number of pictures.

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So we have all your documents. So okay, good. So I'm just showing so this is this this was taken

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a number of years ago. This is also taken a number of years ago at the front of the house. So I just

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landscape the front. I try to make the front nice. I keep the neighborhood clean. I'm really the only

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one on the block who goes out there and cleans up the street. I do it on a regular basis. I would say

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probably three to six, seven days a week, depending on what's going on. So these are all from the past

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over the years. This is the front of the house. This is the area in front of the house. And I'll

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show you current and if I'm going too fast please let me know oh sure okay

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good and then so this so this is a current picture and I have a few of them

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This is the straight front of the house.

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this is the straight front of the house

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These were taken in the past three weeks.

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So my wife and I put together the front.

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She helped me.

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I want to give credit where credit's due.

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Yeah.

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I think that's a good point.

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That's a very good point.

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All the women in the audience are shaking their head yes.

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I just want you to know that.

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Happy wife, happy life.

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that's right men got to do right by the woman so um it's your post and we have that okay good so

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um do you want to see some should i put up some pictures of the inside of the house or what

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whatever if you want to show us where you teach that's fine okay sure so

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so this is my teaching studio this used to be my mother's bedroom so i lived in this house um

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From the time I was 14, I went up to Boston and did my bachelor's degree at Berklee College

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of Music. I did my master's degree at New England Conservatory. I taught at Berklee

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for a number of years. I taught middle school band and orchestra at St. Stephen St. Agnes

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School in Virginia. I was a musical director for a theater company in D.C., a division

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of the Arena Stage. I performed in Japan. I played in Germany. I played in many, many

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bands over the years in the Philadelphia area

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and in D.C. and in Boston.

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How many people do you see a week?

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I guess it depends

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on the week. 25 maybe.

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So four or five a day?

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Yeah, something like that. 25

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to 30. And

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I've never had a complaint. There's never been

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one complaint in 28 years of teaching there.

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No complaints to L&I.

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Never had the police at my place.

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So I just

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really try to

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take care of the place. I'm probably the

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the oldest living, the oldest resident, you know, in terms of, like, you know, my precedence there.

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So it's, I've seen the place go through a lot of changes, and I'm just trying to be very upright

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and say, well, you know, I should be zoned, so I'm here, you know, I'd just like to get that in.

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I was zoned in 12, and then it fell out, and I hadn't thought about it. I'd just forgotten about

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that life goes on and i just looked at it and said you know all right all right questions from the

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board so does your um what do we call your students yeah they come through the rest of

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the house to get to this bedroom is that yes it's the front bedroom yes okay um and

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do they walk do they drive how well they just so they there's always room out front i end up

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parking in the garage so i don't even take up room on the street so they park out front they

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come up to the step they text me when they come and then this way it keeps a nice smooth flow in

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the house and i let the other student out i let the student in they come up they leave their case

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downstairs so it doesn't scrape the walls they walk up the steps and they come in the studio

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and i've had some students for um there's one student i've had he's in his 17th year

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and um i had a number of students who who uh who are one guy who's in his eighth year um one of my

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students um is the head of the streets department mr gaddy the back of the room he's been with me

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for three years three and a half years i hope that's okay a little plug a little plug any other

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questions. So wait, so do you teach drums there? No. Oh, okay. Just guitar. I've taught all sorts

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of instruments. I did my master's in jazz comp and also in my undergrad in jazz comp and music ed.

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So I've taught K through 12. I've played all sorts of instruments. And your neighbors on either side

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of you, no complaints about noise or anything like that? Never once. I mean, if they said

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something i sure i take it up with them i mean you want to be polite with your neighbors for sure but

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i've never you know i just try to have to like soundproof this room any or anything like that

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i've never never soundproofed the room it's just um that's your mom's color that's my it's my color

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it's been painted like that a few times it's okay no no it's okay it's okay um she left me the house

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uh some years ago and um i i just uh with my fiancee we my wife we've just painted the house

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over the past year I've painted the entire house so I try to take care of it I mean it's

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it's home sweet home yeah any else anyone else how many how many um students do you have on a typical

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day um I'd say six five on a typical day it could be anywhere from four to six something like that

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something like that and then how late is the latest um is the latest lesson nine o'clock

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and then how late is the latest um

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are you we go till mine 9 p.m yeah and are you using the room for any kind of amplified music

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after 9 p.m no no okay you've got it and then is there a bathroom on that floor that they have

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access to sure i'm actually glad to show you um let me get out of this and i'll show you some of

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the other pictures let's see and so this is the living room and let's see what we got here this

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This is the dining room, and this is the kitchen, and this is the hallway, the stairwell to

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the upstairs.

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let's make this a little bit bigger this is the small bedroom this is my wife's personal room

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do you live at the house too you're living there now yeah good this is yeah this is it

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and right what else do i have here this is the hallway it's the upstairs hallway

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so where do you how do you get your students i mean like are they referred somehow or

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working with the school district or sometimes i referred i've advertised um i have a website

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so okay i used to advertise in the yellow pages when that was the thing you know that was a while

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ago that was a while ago a little stand-up comic too you got everybody in the audience laughing

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behind you that's right that's right i would give robin williams a run for his money

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all right i do i did see the picture of the bathroom did you see that

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diet i don't think i uh i took a direct picture no but i saw the the doorway in the hallway

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yeah yep all right other questions from the board and that's the front door at the bottom

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or like right at the bottom of the stairs um no let me see no okay so i have the front

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you know i don't know if i took a picture of the front door from the back i don't think i did

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um well you know what let me see

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this no you know i don't think i did

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no the front door would be back in in this area okay so i apologize if i uh if i missed that i

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missed that opportunity this is the back of the house keep this place pretty pretty clean and

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pretty straight he didn't click on it he didn't click on it yet oh is it not sharing yeah there

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we go okay sorry i'm just looking at my screen i'm not looking up to see what's okay all the

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questions sure sure um did you submit those photographs yeah okay yeah i didn't see them

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