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ZBA Hearing - December 15, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 15, 20206h 9m

Four stories were moderately taller than the property next door, but we don't exceed the 38-foot height limit.

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There are balconies in the rear of the properties for exterior space for the units.

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in addition to the rear yard space and the roof deck so someone can go out there have a cup of

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coffee or just feel the breeze that's really all i have at this point members of the board my client

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was not able to make it today so i'm happy to answer any questions you have so as an officer

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to court will stipulate that your client would if you he or she were available would adopt your

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testimony any questions from the board no no no one else like to testify in this case if so

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please raise your hand I see no chair excuse me I see no hands chair thank you planning commission

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thank you planning commission

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good afternoon board peter bernard for the planning commission

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this property is indicated for single-family residential the comprehensive plan

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we do not feel the proposal will have a negative impact on the surrounding community

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accordingly we have no objection to the granting of the variance thank you

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thank you mi 2020 that's zero zero two two zero nine six four nine union street my vote is yes

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my vote is yes my vote is yes my vote is yes great thank you members of the board have a

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good evening i'll see you tomorrow thank you likewise calendar number

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13 okay calendar number 2411 74 hold on carol hold on i think we go to number 14 that wasn't 13

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already was that in the morning 13 was continued in the morning this is sharon 13

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13 was continued 13 was continued um you're in for and that's 74 30 state road sharon

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yes that was continued okay thanks calendar number 2347 832 north 63rd street

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Chair, Alan, excuse me, Mr. Nockamson has been promoted as a panelist.

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Sorry.

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You're still under oath.

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Please identify yourself.

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He's been under oath for around a month now.

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Do you, yeah, identify yourself.

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Unmute yourself.

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alan knockamson a-l-a-n last name knockamson n-o-c-h-u-m-s-o-n

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should i give my address your address why not all right one two three south broad street suite

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1600 philadelphia pa 19109 do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do do you also waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy i do

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And have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership, proof of tax compliance, refusal, referral, photos, and or plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing?

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Have you met with the RCO and do you have a letter?

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Yes, in all respects.

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Thank you. You may proceed.

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All right. So I'm sharing my screen. Let me just make this a little bit bigger.

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And a little bit bigger.

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All right. So here you'll see my typical packet of materials, which include exhibits. The first

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exhibit is the deed to the property, showing the held properties and land development LP as the

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owner of this property. The second exhibit is the tax clearance certificate, showing that we are

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paid in full. We're still waiting to pay the 21st, which is 2021, which is not due yet. But in all

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respects we're paid in full for our real estate taxes. Exhibit 3 is the notice of refusal.

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We're here because this is an RSA 3 property and we're proposing to put four dwelling units into

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this property. In addition, for RSA 3, we're required to put four parking spots. We're

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proposing one. I will indicate that we do have off-street parking, one of the few properties on

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this block that does and we have a long driveway so i would say that we can probably fit more than

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one parking spot and you'll see from the pictures this is not the first time that i've been in front

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of this board on this block and i haven't done all these but i've done i did one of these

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and this board has seen over the years the 800 block of north 63rd street to have requests for

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multifamily units on this RSA 3 block. And as you can see, on average, the request has been

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four and a quarter units. We're asking for four. On average, the lot size is 6,150. Oh, excuse me,

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the average lot size is 5,635. We're at 6,150. So in essence, we're asking for less than what

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this board has allowed under similar circumstances. And most of these lots don't have off-street

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parking, which we do. And the board is granted under those circumstances, multifamily use without

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officer report. Here's our application for appeal.

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here's our application for appeal

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and then here's a map and you'll see from the map we also laid it out for the board so they can see

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you know the block the 800 block of north 63rd street and here's indications

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of all the variances granted over the years with regard to this block each address and

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the corresponding number and here's a photograph as you can see as i stated we have off street

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parking we have a garage right now this is a boarded up property that we recently purchased

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beautiful like it you know obviously needs renovation and that's what we intend to do

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And by the way, we're on the trolley line as well as near public transportation to the right of the property on North 63rd, to the left of the property, North 63rd.

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And here's our garage.

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As you can see, we have the ability to park more than one car there.

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And then here's our orange notice poster.

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And here are our plans.

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The most important thing is, is that, you know, we're providing something that this board has under similar circumstances allowed.

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Let me just decrease the sizes so it's more manageable to see for the board.

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But, you know, you enter in the front.

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This is unit number one, and it has a lower level.

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And then this is unit number two.

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It has a lower level.

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You go up a flight of steps.

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And here, well, and unit number one also has a third level.

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so this is tri-level. Unit number two is a bi-level. You go up and fly the steps. Here's

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unit number three, which it goes, you know, and the top unit is unit number four. No roof

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deck where we have garbage, you know, storage in the rear. And then most importantly, we

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have a letter of support where the the community unanimously supported this project is this over

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brook farms um i don't believe it's over brook farms but i i have the owner of the property

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terrell hill who can state where but this is friends of over brook but i don't i don't believe

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it's over brook farms um and again the reasons why they um you know really uh supported this project

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is that the owner is from the area.

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Like, you know, he grew up in this part of town.

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He's done multiple projects around here

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looking to repurpose sites like this

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and really just focus on keeping the historical nature

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of the community.

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But, you know, they were fully in support of it

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and unanimously in support of it.

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So I do have Jarrell Hill who is online.

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So Jarrell, can you virtually raise your hand?

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mr hill please unmute yourself hello can you hear me yes mr hill please identify yourself

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with the record first and last name jerrell hill

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you swear and affirm to please provide us with your address

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uh 832 north 63rd street philadelphia you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes thank you mr knockinson uh yes uh mr hill you heard everything i stated

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today yes and is it true and correct correct and do you adopt as your own testimony yes i do

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um madam vice chair had a question is this part of uh overbrook farms this property

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um i don't know it's not overbrook farms overbrook farms is just a little further down

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or further up.

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Thank you.

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So I have no,

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I would be glad to take

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questions from the board.

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Questions from the board?

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No.

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No.

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Anyone else like to testify in this case?

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Please raise your hand.

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I see no handshare.

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Thank you. Planning commission?

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Good afternoon, Board. Peter Bernard for the Planning Commission.

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This property is indicated for single-family residential in the comprehensive plan.

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We feel the proposal represents an overuse of the property and recommend the number of

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units be reduced.

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Accordingly, we have no objection to the granting of the variance for multifamily, but ask that

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the number of units be reduced.

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Now, could you go back to the floor plans again?

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I got a little confused when you said the third floor, first, second, and third was a bi-level?

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I got a little confused when you said the third floor or...

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Yeah, so, and I have the architect on the line as well, but this front unit, it's a bi-level.

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So you can get in, there's an internal staircase to go down, but there's also a staircase to go up as well.

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then the there was one in the rear i believe yes so the the alternative entrance for the units is

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in the rear which is not uncommon for these units again you have parking that is also back there so

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it actually goes hand in hand with you know what these properties were in the past in terms of

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exterior rear entrance so third and fourth floor was it or the third the the second floor

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the second and third floors yeah okay all right i got it yeah i should have asked it up before i

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apologize yeah but again if you just like i really did put this chart together and we took some great

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time if you can understood yeah all right calendar number mi 2020-002347 832 north 63rd street my

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vote is yes my vote is no my vote is yes my vote is yes thank you tom had to get off for a while

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so he won't be uh i believe that completes the 3 30 list

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no chair that would be 2 p.m i'm sorry oh my gosh that was wishful thinking i'm sorry

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the two o'clock list okay it is now thank you and Tanya do you need a few minutes

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no chair we're all ready oh good thank you good afternoon or good evening everyone my name is

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Frankie Chico I'm the chair of the zoning board of adjustment I'll be participating in today's

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hearing along with our vice chair Ms. Carrollton Airy board secretary Professor Plaza and board

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members Mr. Thomas Holloman and Mr. James Snell. Board Administrator Tanya Sunken and Board Attorney

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Sharon Saleta are also in attendance. For those of you who haven't yet participated in one of our

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virtual hearings, I'll go through some of the basics of what you can expect. First, we will be

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administering oaths to individual participants prior to their testimony. Second, we'd like to

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advise everyone that this proceeding is being recorded and that by participating you acknowledge

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your agreement to be recorded. Third, for anyone participating by phone, if you wish to testify,

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you must raise your hand by hitting star nine and then star six to unmute yourself. I repeat,

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for anyone participating by phone, if you wish to testify, you must raise your hand

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by hitting star nine and then star six to unmute yourself. Finally, to enter an appearance statement,

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call google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address and the address of the property at issue

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i'll repeat to enter an appearance statement call google 267-270-5548 and leave your email address

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and the address of the property at issue before we call our first case i'd like to announce the

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following cases that have requested a continuance mi 2020-001-856-1715 north 59th street

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MI 2020-001-858-2210 Bryn Mawr Avenue MI 2020-001-859-5204 Overbrook Avenue and I believe

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that's it if anyone disagrees with the granting of those continuances I just read into the record

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please raise your hand also chair i have a couple of continuances okay yes

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so you did number two right i'm sorry tanya you probably have the same one i do go ahead

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i have number two is being continued on your list right yes they did i have number four

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as being continued yes they read that one i didn't read i didn't read that one i read two five no i

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i read two five and seven so all i have that's going forward is one

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i'm sorry number yes number one and number three everything else i have is continued

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i'm sorry number yes number one and number three everything else i have is

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okay then let me get those in because all righty thank you wait one second i agree on one can i

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ask a question about one of them um miss sunkett sure the um number four mr kerr did submit

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exhibits he is requesting a continuance

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number four it's that's 201 west johnson street i have a continuance he is raising his hand

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would you like him to speak yeah let's get him on the record please okay good afternoon mr kerr

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please identify yourself with the record and i'll swear you in good afternoon mr chair members of

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the board william kerr of 40 east airy street in norristown on behalf of the applicant on 201 west

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johnson street you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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i do could you help us out are you asking for a continuance yes i am requesting a continuance

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that i will be the moving party okay okay all right mi 2020-001579201 201 west johnson street

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attorney moving party thank you thank you tanya uh are we okay with one and three i think there's

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still one that you need to read in okay which one six yes i don't believe you've read number five in

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uh i did

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unless i missed it Bryn Mawr Avenue i read that in no he read it in

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yeah so just to alleviate confusion i thought 22nd street here's what i read in

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number two i'm sorry i don't mean to keep talking over to you i just didn't hear 22nd street

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we didn't get to that one yet that's where i was going to ask number six

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oh is that to be continued yes yes attorney moving party okay mi 2020 that's 000247

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3625 north 22nd street attorney moving party so let me be clear before i go any further

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the following cases i read in as being continued number two on our list 1715 north 59th

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uh 201 west johnson street is number four on our list 2210 brimmar avenue number five on our list

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number six on our list 3625 north 22nd and number seven on our list 5204 overbrook avenue

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that is correct we're all clear on that okay and then we're going to hear number one on our list

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1301 Hanson and then number three on our list 18 excuse me 180 Westerard Avenue and we also have

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an add-on for 209 Delmar Street is that correct yes okay sounds good to me all right but let me

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just ask the question no one's objecting to the continuances and there's anyone else asking for

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a continuance or withdrawal please raise your hand i see no hands chair okay so carol we can

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go with uh the add-on we'll do the add-on first okay calendar number 1205 209 delmar street

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excuse me i thought we were going to do the add-on last my mistake i looked at my note

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backwards i apologize we'll do that last carol sorry number one first calendar number 1578 1301

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hanson street the attorney is matthew master pasqua master pasqua no hank clinton okay

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okay oh boy mr clinton you've been promoted to panelists mr clinton can you please put your

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name and address on the record and spell your last name sure my name is henry clinton c-l-i-n-t-o-n

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queen memorial building 1313 south 33rd street foot off upa 19146 do you swear or affirm to tell

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do and do you agree to wave and step i have an

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explanation on the refusal. I think it's partly incorrect. Okay. And have you emailed the exhibit

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packet with proof of ownership, tax clearance, refusal, referral, photos, and or plans of the

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property five days in advance of this hearing? Have you met with the RCO and do you have a letter?

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Yes to everything except the letter. And I can explain that also, I believe.

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Okay. You may proceed. Thank you, Ms. Neri. Ms. Sunkit, can I share my screen?

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Thank you, Mr. Neri. Ms. Sunkit, can I share my screen?

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