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ZBA Hearing - January 8, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 8, 20256h 57m

The interior. So he has done the work, you know, again, did not know any better.

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You know, he has a restaurant down the block from here.

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He just, you know, wanted a quiet.

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He has, you know, he works from home when he's not working in the restaurant.

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And he just wanted a quiet space that's separate and apart from where he lives.

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And he created this home office.

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Here's a bathroom down there.

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He has like a little kitchenette down here.

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And then this was the biggest issue.

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They're like, oh, what's going on with the other half of the first floor?

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We're like, it's a utility room.

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It's a common utility room for units one and two.

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And he's unit one.

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And they have their laundry in there.

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And here's the laundry facility.

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But they were like, oh, you converted that too.

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And we didn't have a picture at the time.

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We're like, we'll get you a picture.

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But they still were against our project.

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And then there are plans and drawings.

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You know, this is what it previously looked like.

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This is the walkway to the left, which is the common entryway, which was before the garages.

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there was no entryway. And then we made some simple floor plans here, but you can see

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that walkway to the left. You come in, you go down like a half a flight of steps. Everything's

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above grade, like even the living area because of how it's sloped. But it's a bathroom, kitchenette,

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living room. Again, not to scale. We're not architects, but I just want to give you a general

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sense of what's there. This is that utility room there. So you make a right, go down a flight of

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steps or half a flight of steps and you go into this home office which was a former garage which

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is around 500 four or 500 square feet and then this is the utility room as well and they thought

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that we were trying to make blow this out and make this into a whole other unit which is not the case

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and then here's existing conditions as well this is where lasha lives with his wife it's two bedrooms

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open floor plan bathroom and then this is his renter up here kind of the same thing

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Meeting notice, we met on December 10th at 7pm. We emailed that notice a few weeks beforehand to the coordinating RCO and relevant parties, showing that we mailed it to a hundred

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uh to the coordinating rco and relevant parties showing that we mailed it to 105 addresses these

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are the list of the addresses proof of mailing to these addresses the application for appeal

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it's actually i apologize it's actually owned to my client's llc argo llc belasha is the member of

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the llc project information form the deed to the property showing that argo is the owner

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And then finally, the tax clearance money's owed, but it's not yet. Not until March 31st. With that being said, I would ask that Lasha virtually raise his hand.

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did you say rasha lasha l-a-s-h-a last name k-i-k-v-i-d-z-e okay thank you i have her

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she will be allowed to speak could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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can you please unmute yourself

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could you please state your name hi could you please state your name and spell for the

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stenographer. Yes, my name is

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Lasha, L-A-S-H-A

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and Kikvize,

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K-I-K-V-I-D-Z-E.

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Where

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we're affirmed to tell the truth, the whole truth,

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nothing but the truth. Yes, sir.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Yes, Lasha, you heard everything

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I had to state today about your zoning

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matter. Yes,

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I did. And is it true and correct?

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Yes. And do you

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adopt it as your own testimony? Yes.

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questions for the board

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uh yeah i so so the the requested uh zoning is a is for the for an office in the basement as part

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of the one unit correct yes the the refusal has to do with the surface parking in the front

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we can't be the refusal the certain it says the surface parking spaces are not permitted within

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eight feet required in the front yard so that's the technical refusal and the reason why we have

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the parking in the front yard is because we eliminated the garage that we previously had

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which is the same thing that 11 other property owners have done on that block so it's just a

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home office in the sense of he just works there it's not like we're creating like from a zoning

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perspective a home office he just works down there like this is Dan for him basically

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okay well i hear what you're saying right and it's probably true i agree that it's true

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but the way that the plans show it shows that it almost could be an independent

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efficiency because it's got a full-bedroom it's got a living room and a kitchenette

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and it's 500 square feet you said that's a efficiency so i'm so not so i don't so but

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If there's no refusal for that, I guess it doesn't matter because we're just talking about the parking.

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That's right. Yeah. And to be fair, that's what the community thought, too.

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And we're like, he lives there. He has a restaurant like a mile down the road.

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I hear you. And he knows that, you know, if he tried to put a third unit and I explained it to him,

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If he just or someone else, a future owner of the property, try to put a third unit in there, they would get a violation notice because they would have to come back here to get that third unit approved.

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But there's no there's no intent to do that.

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I mean, from my client's point of view, again, the refusal has to do with the parking, not trying to put a third unit in there.

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Other questions from the board?

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Not a question, but a comment. The conversions without first getting permits is, you know, a problem.

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No, and you're not, your client is the only one, but, you know.

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well and board member gaston as you know that this is just the first step on in this process

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and you know ellen i rightfully should make it painful for people who do these conversions

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and you know he's gonna have to get a building permit and he's gonna have to get a co which

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And he's going to have to get a CO, which means he may have to open up some walls, do some modifications, and he should.

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means he may have to open up some walls do some

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He should get all the approvals that he would need.

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He just didn't know better.

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Like, you know, he's, you know, not he's moved here, you know, from Georgia, like not Georgia, the state, but the country, like English, you know, not first language.

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He just works in the restaurant industry and he didn't know better.

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That's not an excuse, but we're here to legalize this structure first from a zoning perspective.

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Then obviously he needs to get a CO, which is another hurdle that he needs to separately overcome.

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Did you say he works in the restaurant industry or that he has a restaurant?

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He has a restaurant. He has a place called Golden Gates in the Northeast.

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So then he is aware of the myriad of permitting processes that you have to go through then to be approved to have just about anything.

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So, again, well, he purchased the restaurant.

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No, he. So when he hit the restaurant that he purchased, he was a server in this restaurant.

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He didn't build this restaurant from scratch.

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He obviously I never really asked him the question, but I'm sure he knows about the health department and things like this. He never did any type of construction.

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And he saw everyone else had it. So I'm not here to give excuse. I'm just stating like his state of mind.

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Okay. And, you know, again, he's not the only one.

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I know.

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Great.

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Other questions from the board?

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questions or comments from our attorney

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not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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yes chair alice alice yudovic will be allowed to speak

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hi alice could you please state your name and spell for the sonographer

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Good afternoon, Chairman and members of the board. Alice Udovich, U-D-O-V-I-C-H, on behalf of Councilman Brian O'Neill.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed.

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Chairman, the councilman does not have any objection to the addition of the outdoor parking space.

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We have all of the same concerns that the board, and particularly Ms. Gaston, stress.

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you know, this could easily be used as an efficiency apartment. You know, we seem to have

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so many properties in the area that are doing these illegal conversions. So just to really

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stress that this property is to be used as a duplex and solely as a duplex.

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Other questions from the virtual audience? And before you take any questions, I have no

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problems putting a maximum of two units to read I don't know if it's necessary but to restate that

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so in case you know this someone else tries to do a variance of some sort later on it's known that

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we you know it was only granted for two units and nothing more than that and it has nothing to do

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with that but you know it has to do with the parking but just to restate that Hillary can we

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do that it's already two units right i mean

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typically like typically you know provisors are supposed to be related to

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what you know the the relief that's being requested i think it does um i mean it does

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say on the refusal that this is accessory to an existing two-family household living so it is clear

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that the use is not that use is not changing um so i think a proviso in that case would

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would be redundant and might be a little confusing because this is about parking

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um but it is it is if it wasn't stated on the refusal i would say yes let's clarify what the

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current use is but it is stated on the refusal what the current what the current use is so

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question for you hillary too now so this office space in the basement there was discussion that

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there would be a co required etc etc so how does that play into anything at this point if it's just

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about the parking i mean well if if they so if they went for the owner went for a co and there

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was a change and they said that this is a change of use you have to have a zoning permit that

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that matches what your co says in terms of um in terms of the use so the i i don't know if they

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would need exactly well the co is for fire safety so it may just be certifying that this

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need exactly well the co is for fire safety so it may just be certifying that this this habitable

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We'll see you next time.

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space meets the fire safety requirements of the code it's not necessarily changing the use um

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but i don't know exactly a co would be required but certainly a building permit would be required

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and those generally of a co built into them so is that a proviso that we would say that this

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basement convert or this garage conversion to an office you know is it requires a building you know

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is there i don't know i i would i i think you could add a proviso um you know must obtain a

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building permit um and that if there's a co if a co is needed then that would be concluded in

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the building permit they say must need a building permit for the prior use for for the for the prior

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work um right um yeah just uh must yeah obtain uh how do they call it here um must obtain a

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building permit for the removal of the interior parking garage i don't know if you would need a

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building permit for the parking spaces as well um but obviously a zoning permit for that because

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the location of the spaces is changing and generates a refusal.

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But I think for a building permit, for sure,

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for the removal of the interior parking garage.

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Any other questions from the board?

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Any questions for the virtual audience?

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Any questions?

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Excuse me, Chair, there's a Surin last name beginning in P

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will be allowed to speak.

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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hi uh my name is suren pogosov it's s-u-r-e-n last name p-o-g-o-s-o-v

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we're affirmed to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do are you a neighbor uh yes i live in the neighborhood and i don't have any questions

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Just want to comment that there's a lot of homes in the neighborhood that were converted, that garages were converted into a living space.

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And, you know, I don't see any problems with that.

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People, I attended that neighborhood hearing and people were complaining about taking the garage spaces.

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But nobody today is really parking in the garage.

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So I don't see a problem with that. And I guess I'll support the project.

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Thank you for your support. Thank you for calling in. We appreciate it. Is there anyone else?

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There are no more hands.

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Planning Commission.

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Amy Boyd with the Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change in zoning at this location from the existing residential to family attached RTA2.

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The appellant has not demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances of the property that would prevent it from being used in conformance with the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the Board deny the requested variance for surface parking within the required front yard.

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MI 2024, 006-056-465 Harlan Street, I vote yes with proviso.

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Building permit to be obtained for work on garage.

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Is that enough, Hillary?

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I would say for removal of interior parking garage, just to match the language on the refusal.

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Removal of interior parking garage.

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Michael Johns, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Earl Gassman, my vote is no.

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Tana Graham, my vote is yes with proviso.

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my vote is yes with proviso ishmael shaheed my vote is yes with proviso

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thank you number six and number seven i'm sorry

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mi 2024-006-088-9100 bluegrass room brett feldman and leonard altieri are the attorneys

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um no rco letter or summary but notice was sent to the neighbors with proof of mailing

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there is a letter of support from council member driscoll

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who states that the rco is in support of this as well

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brett feldman has been promoted to panelists

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afternoon council

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Mr. Feldman

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yeah yes uh Mr. Chair good good afternoon uh Brett Feldman on behalf of the applicant and

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um my co-counsel on this is Leonard Altieri I'd ask that he be promoted also he's going to be

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hold it hold it hold it Mr. Feldman do me a favor could you go on our video first so we can see

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Sure.

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And you want your co-counsel?

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Is he with you or is he somewhere else?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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He has his hand raised.

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Okay.

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He has been promoted.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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