civus
Hearing video

ZBA Hearing - January 18, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 18, 20236h 45m

all but the tax clearance which was emailed to council yesterday

Similar wording

okay thank you please for sheet and share your screen

Similar wording

uh the

Similar wording

share screen green button at the bottom

Similar wording

nobody uh nobody has attended nobody attended the rco meeting

Similar wording

uh the letters were sent out uh my client will testify that he even went to the port to the

Similar wording

point of knocking on doors in the neighborhood in order to uh get anybody interested but people

Similar wording

were either not interested or did not answer their doors. This is for legalization of a

Similar wording

of a garage door on a vacant lot. I should note to the panel that this appears to have been a

Similar wording

vacant lot since the early 1950s. It is not a it's it's an unusually shaped property.

Similar wording

Shaped property.

Similar wording

I'm showing, are you seeing?

Similar wording

I'm showing, are you seeing now the posting here?

Similar wording

No, we need to see.

Similar wording

You're still on the first page.

Similar wording

Could you send us what the property looks like?

Similar wording

Here is the posting.

Similar wording

The issue is this is a 10-foot wide lot.

Similar wording

The door is necessary because of the situation you see here

Similar wording

because people, when there was no gate, were dumping garbage there.

Similar wording

It has been used since the 1950s.

Similar wording

It was originally a plumber had kept his trucks there.

Similar wording

I have a 1954 use permit to that effect that I'll show you in a minute.

Similar wording

But the situation was as the trash was being dumped onto the property,

Similar wording

And he just simply wanted to limit the amount of trash that he had to clean up or could be fined for.

Similar wording

It was a commercially used property prior to it becoming rezoned as an RCE 10 when it went to sheriff sale in 2015.

Similar wording

Now the block is listed as residential.

Similar wording

However, this property is very probably too small to even have a house built on it without

Similar wording

a variance.

Similar wording

As you can see, there's a small garage in back, which is used for parking.

Similar wording

I have a mechanical engineer's report saying that the door was put up properly.

Similar wording

the door is not unique for the neighborhood this is directly across the street you can see the same

Similar wording

gates on the on the food truck next door you can see from the drawing that there is 10 feet six

Similar wording

inches across the open doorway and the overhead lot view there is 110 feet of open parking space

Similar wording

but again it's only 10 foot six inches wide and then there's a garage that is 35 feet deep

Similar wording

here is the use permit from 1954 uh giving a allowing a plumber shop housing truck tools and

Similar wording

material legalization we've been able to find no other record indicating there was any construction

Similar wording

on this property since it has been a vacant lot and really all we're trying to do is improve the

Similar wording

quality of the neighborhood by reducing the amount of trash being dumped there my client wants to use

Similar wording

it to park vehicles. He will testify and he will answer any questions that you would like.

Similar wording

I'd like to call Mr. Noah Ziv. Good morning. Could you state your name, please, and spell

Similar wording

for the court reporter? Yeah, Ziv Noah, Z-I-V, last name Noah, N-O-A-H. Right. And do you

Similar wording

accept the testimony that I've just given as true and correct? Sir, sir, wait a minute,

Similar wording

wait a minute. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but

Similar wording

the truth yes i do speak up just a little bit you're a little hard i'm sorry i'm coming a little

Similar wording

closer no that's fine all right go ahead counsel do you uh do you uh accept the testimony i've

Similar wording

just given is true and correct absolutely uh does the panel have any questions for mr zip

Similar wording

questions from the board for counsel no mr no mr chairman no mr chairman questions or comments

Similar wording

from the virtual audience mr chair this is hillary i just i just want to jump in um i had

Similar wording

had some conversation i was going to ask you before i got there before i got to planning but

Similar wording

go ahead yeah no let me let me just have it i just wanted to clarify this is an application

Similar wording

and i've had this conversation via email with the applicant this is an application for a change of

Similar wording

use or establishing um the use um of the property the the gate is not part of the application um

Similar wording

It's only use. There's no construction as part of this application.

Similar wording

I've advised the applicants that they do need to apply for a permit to the gate and given them the instructions for how to do that.

Similar wording

There is an issue on the refusal where the use that is listed as what's being requested is storage.

Similar wording

That is not a use category in the zoning code.

Similar wording

I've been in touch with LMI to try to get clarity on this.

Similar wording

and what we determined this morning was that we will discuss at the hearing today exactly what

Similar wording

this use is and it sounds like vehicle storage is what it is and then I will go back to L&I

Similar wording

and find out what use category this should be and when we vote on this case if it is granted

Similar wording

we will include a proviso that clarifies the use for this property.

Similar wording

we will include a proviso that clarifies the use for this property.

Similar wording

So, Hillary, do we want planning to take a position,

Similar wording

or do we want to wait to see what they'll be voting on?

Similar wording

Yeah, I think planning can take a position based on the testimony today,

Similar wording

unless they would like to defer.

Similar wording

But I do want to just clarify with either counsel or the applicant,

Similar wording

what is being stored here is solely vehicles, right?

Similar wording

Is there anything else being stored at the property?

Similar wording

Is there anything else?

Similar wording

So it is a garage door, like a little space garage, as you saw in the pictures.

Similar wording

I assume I'm going to rent it out.

Similar wording

It's not going to be solely mine.

Similar wording

I just own the property.

Similar wording

I just cleaned it up and made sure that it's safe and secure, like you saw the engineer report.

Similar wording

I assume because of the size, it's only 10 by 35.

Similar wording

It's going to be used when I rent it to either a van storage for safekeeping so nobody can break in and steal whatever tools they got inside the van.

Similar wording

And then since you have another 100 foot, I would say you can maybe store another van outside or maybe two until you get to the end of the garage door.

Similar wording

But my idea was safety.

Similar wording

That's why I closed it in.

Similar wording

And same thing with the garage door in the back.

Similar wording

Same thing.

Similar wording

It's closed in and it's safe.

Similar wording

So it's going to be for storage of a vehicle.

Similar wording

And I assume if they have tools or ladders and stuff on top of the van, it will be secure inside of that building as opposed to just outside on the street.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

All right.

Similar wording

So I will discuss that with L&I and find out from them what category or categories under the zoning code that should be listed so that the use is clear.

Similar wording

Thank you for that clarification.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Is anyone in the virtual audience who has a comment?

Similar wording

I see no hands, Chair.

Similar wording

Ian, do you want to take a position on this?

Similar wording

Yeah, absolutely.

Similar wording

Thank you, Chair.

Similar wording

Ian Hegarty for the Philadelphia City Planning Commission.

Similar wording

Board members, the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing RSA 5 single-family zoning on this block.

Similar wording

However, as the appellant has demonstrated, this is a very narrow lot at about 10 feet wide.

Similar wording

So we agree that residential use is not feasible on this site.

Similar wording

And the proposed uses as described by the appellant are consistent with the physical configuration of the existing structure on the lot and the lot itself and its prior legal use as a plumber's shop.

Similar wording

so therefore the city planning commission recommends that the board grant this variance

Similar wording

thank you uh hillary we'll wait to hear and we'll come back with this yeah mr chair we did not sorry

Similar wording

we did not open um up to public testimony so we just need to do that quickly um sorry i jumped i

Similar wording

jumped in we did chair and i did i did do it hillary oh okay okay all right okay so we're

Similar wording

going to be back in touch with you okay yeah we should be able to have this um voted on next week

Similar wording

okay thank you very much thank you number five mi 2022 004-564-412 bainbridge street

Similar wording

alexander barth is the attorney a letter of support for free village neighbors

Similar wording

There's a letter of non-opposition from Councilman Squilla.

Similar wording

There's a letter of support.

Similar wording

We also believe there's a letter of opposition.

Similar wording

Mr. Barth.

Similar wording

Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

Similar wording

Hi, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

Similar wording

Yes, Alexander Barth, B as in boy, A, R, T as in Tom, H as in Harry, of Cohen-Seglius, on behalf of the applicants Carlos and Adrienne Rogers, the owners of 412 Bainbridge Street Unit I.

Similar wording

Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

Our vice chair has a few questions.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

Good morning, Counselor. Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

Have you emailed all the required exhibits to our office within five days in advance of this hearing?

Similar wording

I have.

Similar wording

You have? Thank you. Please proceed to share your screen.

Similar wording

Again, good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. Can you see my screen?

Similar wording

We can.

Similar wording

All right. So we are here this morning on behalf of the owner's applicants of 412 Bainbridge Street.

Similar wording

It should say Unit I, not Unit 1. I apologize for that. It's Unit I on the refusal.

Similar wording

This is a single-family home located on Bainbridge Street, obviously the 400 block of Bainbridge Street.

Similar wording

On Bainbridge Street, obviously the 400 block of Bainbridge Street, and we are here today in the Queen Village neighborhood.

Similar wording

and we are here

Similar wording

We're here today seeking a variance for the grant of a visitor accommodations permit for this property so it may be allowed to be used for short-term rentals.

Similar wording

Just as the preliminaries to go through of the exhibits that were previously submitted, we have, there was no application because it was an Eclipse application for the license itself or the permit itself, but Exhibit B is the refusal for this, for the application for a visitor accommodations permit.

Similar wording

Going on, Exhibit C is the application for appeal to this board.

Similar wording

Exhibit D is the project information form that was submitted with the application time-stamped.

Similar wording

I apologize, this goes on.

Similar wording

Exhibit E would be the deed

Similar wording

to the applicants

Similar wording

as you can state while the

Similar wording

refusal states that this is

Similar wording

412 Bainbridge Street Unit I

Similar wording

as a unit

Similar wording

this is an off-street courtyard-based

Similar wording

development

Similar wording

412 Bainbridge Street Unit I

Similar wording

let's see

Similar wording

We have Exhibit G, which is the Certificate of Tax Clearance.

Similar wording

Exhibit J is the photo posting or poster photos showing posting for more than 21 days

Similar wording

continuously prior to this meeting.

Similar wording

And Exhibit L is the RCO notice together with the proofs of mailing.

Similar wording

I can see if I can just skip ahead to those quickly.

Similar wording

to get away from the, there is Exhibit G.

Similar wording

So we have proofs of posting.

Similar wording

This is a courtyard-based development, so the street frontage is obviously on Bainbridge Street.

Similar wording

That is where posting occurred for both the notice of refusal and the poster itself.

Similar wording

Various dates leading up to the hearing.

Similar wording

There it is.

Similar wording

Tax clearance certification.

Similar wording

And then further down is Exhibit L.

Similar wording

So we are here today requesting approval to secure a visitor accommodation license.

Similar wording

This is not an owner-occupied property.

Similar wording

It is a single-family home owned by the applicants who operate a business in Philadelphia.

Similar wording

They are Mr. Rogers.

Similar wording

I believe Ms. Rogers is here, are here today and are capable of testifying.

Similar wording

They purchased this property before the institution of the current laws or ordinances regarding Airbnb or short-term rentals.

Similar wording

And they wish to use this property as a short-term rental.

Similar wording

It is a single-family home.

Similar wording

It will be used. The proposal is to use it as such. And they have previously rented this property as well as others.

Similar wording

They have a four star rating for their rentals in the past. This will only be used as a single family home.

Similar wording

There's no decision, no plans to expand the property, expand the number of bedrooms, bathrooms.

Similar wording

It is a smaller unit, so it is not some kind of expansive rental property.

Similar wording

And they have met with the RCO previously in meeting with the RCO.

Similar wording

The RCO provided a letter of support with certain provisos, those provisos being the addition of a security camera.

Similar wording

The applicant was willing to and complied with that request.

Similar wording

And just so you guys can have an understanding of kind of the nature of this courtyard-based dwelling,

Similar wording

these are the external photos of the home.

Similar wording

They all face onto a courtyard coming off of Bainbridge Street.

Similar wording

These are kind of looking up and down the courtyard at the premises.

Similar wording

The premises here, premises I, is on the right with the bushes.

Similar wording

The applicant, this is the front door to the unit.

Similar wording

As you can see, it's very well maintained.

Similar wording

Windows have been replaced since they've taken ownership of it.

Similar wording

They maintain the property in peak condition.

Similar wording

These are the interior photographs showing you or depicting the relative size of the property.

Similar wording

Again, this is essentially a trinity, I think, as most would be seen, or just a smaller single-family unit.

Similar wording

a trinity i think as most would be seen or just a smaller single family unit this is not some kind of

Similar wording

large rental property it's meant for a small number of renters and has been used that way

Similar wording

and that's the intended continued use the rco requested or supported the application for a

Similar wording

visitor accommodation license provided that there was the installation of a security camera this is

Similar wording

a rooftop deck that it has. A ring doorbell has been installed at the premises to provide

Similar wording

security camera footage. The applicant has provided the near neighbors and the condominium

Similar wording

association with contact information so that he can be reached or anybody can be reached if there

Similar wording

are any issues. Council, why don't we have your testimony adopted by the owner? Mr. Rogers, are you

Similar wording

here? Carlos? Yep. Hello. Can you hear me? Hi. Could you state your name, please, and spell for the

Similar wording

court reporter? Yes, sir. Carlos Rogers. C-A-R-L-O-S. R-O-G-E-R-S. Right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the

Similar wording

truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Proceed, counsel. Mr. Rogers, have you heard

Similar wording

my testimony here today and do you find it to be truthful? I do. Do you adopt that testimony as

Similar wording

your own before this board? I do. Questions from the board? No, Mr. Chairman. No, Mr. Chairman.

Similar wording

Questions or comments from the virtual audience? I see no hands, Chair. Planning Commission.

Similar wording

Thank you, Chair Bergman. Ian Hegarty for the Philadelphia City Planning Commission.

Similar wording