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ZBA Hearing - April 22, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Apr 22, 20267h 16m

one unit here which is i mean you're probably looking at anywhere from so you make the other

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units a little larger what's the i don't again i don't i don't understand why this is a supposed

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hardship here. I don't think making a unit more is going to actually make, you're not going to

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have a dollar to dollar thing. The numbers are tight. Developers in Philadelphia are struggling

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given market conditions here. We're trying to develop a piece of land here. And I think we're

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doing it responsibly because back then they were seeking nine units, which is more variance from

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the Philadelphia zoning code they agreed to do seven we're required we're allowed to do 6.8 we're

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not taking an RSA 5 property taking an RM1 property you're asking for 0.2 okay I think

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i think thank you i know both sides of this uh our attorney hillary emerson

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I think thank you I know both sides of this our attorney Hillary Emerson

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um i do not have any questions mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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come on

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good afternoon sir could you and porter pull as close to you as you can no problem

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Good afternoon, everybody.

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Could you please state your name as Belford's sonographer?

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Yes.

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My first name is Desmond, D-E-S-M-O-N-D.

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My last name is Shannon, S-H-A-N-N-O-N.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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I'm the owner of 2127.

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That's the property right next door.

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Please proceed.

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I just had a question because just the background on me.

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I lived in property since 2017.

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My parents owned the property and sold it to me in 2021.

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i i don't know what rco means but i was at that hearing or whatever it was community meeting

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in 2019 when they did propose the nine units with one uh i guess low income that was not low income

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rent rates um my concern there uh just living in the property is uh trash being thrown out

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over the roof uh and then the the trash being stored in the back um with that garbage stored

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there for a uh apartment building i can't enjoy my backyard uh so if i know back then i proposed

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maybe putting the trash on the far i guess the left side of the building i don't know i guess

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west side of the building and they refused to do that i thought that i didn't know that the uh

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zonings were approved in 2019 that's news to me I just thought everything was

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you know discontinued and then the lot was being mowed by one and not the other

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so I thought the plots were broken up so my question to the owner in the the

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lawyer is just one what what demographic are you targeting because we are in

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Charles Wood, which is near Temple. And then there's a lot of young people who like to party,

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stay up late, things of that nature. So with the rooftop deck entertainment, a concern is just

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objects being thrown off of the roof, or my roof, and then also ended up in my backyard. And then

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also, why not have the garbage stored maybe inside on the basement or something like that?

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yeah so um let me answer the question the my understanding through this project that this is

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not for student housing and i would ask that you know dan is is this meant for student housing

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no no not at all yeah so the way it's configured these are one all one and two bedroom apartment

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um they're not meant for student housing um in terms of the trash typically you know we do try

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to store the trash outside in closed containers i do believe that if you look at the floor plans

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there is a utility room that's rather large in sides in the basement area yeah um i we could

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agree to store the trash inside typically most people want it outside but we have the ability

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that all the residents have access to the trash a lower level which have utilities so if the board

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feel so inclined to put a proviso trash stored inside in the basement uh we would we would agree

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to that and then in terms of the deck like i said you know this is for people that live in

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the neighborhood not for students so you know from experience any lease would include rules

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and regulations regarding conduct which would include about the deck do all residents have

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access to the roof decks no only only the two upper units so again that would be less of an issue

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if you had more all of them having the roof decks um but we would agree to a provisor of trash

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stored inside and it's commercial trash pickup too so we're not just relying on the city trash removal

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thank you thank you sir no problem all right um anyone else in the virtual i'm sorry one more

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question i'm sorry just parking um is that a concern by the city or whatever because with

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the additional people um oh yeah we look at everything okay all right thank you um

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anyone else in the virtual audience

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no hands at this time chair any commission

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Amy Boyd with the Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends a change in zoning at this location from the existing

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RM1 residential multifamily to RSA 5 residential single family.

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The additional acquired lot area for the proposed 7th dwelling unit is under 10%

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The additional required lot area for the proposed 7th dwelling unit is under 10% of the required area and is therefore considered de minimis.

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However, for roof decks, the appellant has not shown that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances of the property that would prevent it from being used in conformance with the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends that the Board grant the requested variance for 7th dwelling unit and deny the requested variance for roof deck.

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Can I just shortly respond?

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briefly respond to the just in terms uh it confirms you know what i stated about the the

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density um it is a de minimis request as far as the roof deck um they even noted that typically

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they're against you know having roof deck access structures there but given the history of the

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approval by the zba as well as having roof decks with similar properties in the surrounding area

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we would respectfully request that the board grant that variance as well thank you so what i'm going

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to do is we're going to vote this next week next uh wednesday at 2 p.m we'll vote uh and we'll take

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this to executive session on wednesday morning all right thank you very much thank you very much

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Thank you.

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Number 10. MI 2026 000 766 828 824. I'm sorry, North Second Street. Augusta O'Neill is the attorney.

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There's a letter of support from Northern Liberties and a letter of non opposition from Council Member Young.

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good afternoon good afternoon counsel uh could you please state your name and spell before the

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stenographer sure my name is augusta o'neill a-u-g-u-s-t-a last name is spelled o apostrophe

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n-e-i-l-l you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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i do could you identify your clients in their relationship to the property

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Sure. My client is Selkie Lee. She's in the audience this afternoon. She is the president of the lessee entity for the property, which is Genesis Baker's No Lib Inc.

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Okay. And you have two people sitting here in the front row.

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Selkie is going to be the witness because she's going to be the operator.

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Vice chair has a few questions.

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Sure.

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Good evening. Have you submitted your documents and exhibits five days in advance of this hearing?

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I did.

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and do you waive the reading of the referral and stipulate to its accuracy i do all right

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thank you you can share your screen and proceed with thanks so much um and apologies my voice

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sounds terrible i uh thought i was coming down with something so rather than appear in person

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i decided to be remote this afternoon um good afternoon again members of the board uh with me

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this afternoon as i stated earlier selkie lee she's the president of the lessee entity um she's

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be the operator for the proposed bakery at this location at 824 north 2nd street we are proposing

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a bakery in an approximately 3600 square foot space on the first floor of this mixed-use uh

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building the building has 78 multi-family units above and that commercial space is

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going to be below. The property is zoned CMX 2.5. Included in my exhibit package were some interior

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pictures of the space. As you can see, it's just waiting for a fit out. The proposed bakery that's

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going to be going into this location is known as Two Le Jour. It's a Korean bakery franchise that

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specializes in French-Asian-inspired baked goods. They primarily serve cakes, coffees, drinks,

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specialty pastries. They sell cold brew coffees, matcha lattes, unique items such as guava danishes.

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Another thing that you might see if you're on social media that's fairly popular are their

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cloud cakes. I did include a sample menu in my exhibit package, but I won't labor the board with

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going through everything that I provided. They do have a very extensive menu.

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Its name translates to all the days, in case you're wondering what to Le Jour meant.

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There is one other to Le Jour in University City in Philadelphia. That's the only other

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Philadelphia location. It is a very fast-growing franchise. Everything that they bake is baked

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on site, so nothing is made in an off-location warehouse and brought to the cafe. Instead,

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everything is going to be made at that 2nd Street location.

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Their hours of operation are going to be from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. They hope to be able to open

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Their hours of operation are going to be from

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in late August of this year or September. They are going to have 7 to 10 employees who

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will be working each shift. They recently entered into a 10-year lease for the space.

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They do intend to hire a local when they're hiring employees. They're only making interior

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changes to the space. They're not making any changes to the exterior. They are going to have

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signage on the building, but the signage that they're going to propose is going to be code

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compliant. Included in my exhibit package at page 17, I did provide a copy of the proposed floor

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plan for this location. Just to increase it, this is going to be 2nd Street. As you walk in,

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there's going to be a number of display cases the point of sale is going to be off to the right

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there are going to be a number of show cake showcases so they will have pre-made cakes

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they also have cakes to order and other pastries etc they have approximately 50 seats at this

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location so as you can see there's quite a few seats shown throughout the throughout the floor

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plan. They do have a trash room. There is a back of house area where they're going to have walk-in

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freezers, a walk-in cooler, and an office. They also have a commercial oven, which is going to

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be that type one hood, as you can see on the plan. It's going to have a commercial grade ventilation

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system so that it will extract all the grease vapors the smoke and and the heat

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from the building with respect to deliveries everything is going to be

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delivered to the front to that North 2nd Street location they do anticipate

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getting deliveries only in the morning the deliveries are mainly going to be

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just the ingredients for what they're going to be baking on site. They are going to have trash

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pickup three times a week as well. With respect to the relief that we're here this afternoon

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requesting, included my exhibit package was a copy of the referral that we received. The referral was

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for the eating and drinking establishment, the sit-down restaurant, which was the type of use

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that we have due to the number of seats and the fact that they're making everything on site and

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customers are expected to eat it on site that qualifies as a sit-down restaurant in the nca

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commercial overlay neighborhood commercial overlay district we are required to obtain

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special exception relief for this kind of an application

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with regard to the special exception criteria in philadelphia i would submit to the board that the

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proposal for a bakery at this location the two leisure bakery would not result in overcrowding

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the land or burdening of the public facilities. It wouldn't impair the use of any adjacent

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properties or present a danger to public health or safety. We did meet with the RCO for this project,

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the Northern Liberties Neighbors Association. They did, I'm sorry, they did provide us with

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letter of support which was in my app my uh my exhibit package um as you can see they wrote to

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the board to indicate that they did support the application it was as it was presented to them

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um we met with them in in march of this year so um at this time i would like to call forward my

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client silky lee she's i believe she's actually already sitting there um yeah she's sitting right

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in front of me could you turn the mic on and then pull it really close to you all right all right

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could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer selkie lee s-e-l-l-k-i last name

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is l-e-e right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth of nothing but the truth

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council good afternoon selkie did uh miss lee did you have a chance to hear the my testimony

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this afternoon yes was everything that i said true and accurate yes is there anything that

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you would like to add to the board or would you like to just adopt my testimony as your own

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uh everything you said was correct and true okay um members of the board if there are any

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questions we'd be happy to answer them sure questions from the board yeah quick question

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what's the square footage of the restaurant so the square footage of that space is about 3600

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square feet and um what was what what was the venting can you go back to the plan yeah absolutely

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it's a type one hood is what's indicated on the plan

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it's a type 1 hood

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is what's indicated on the plan

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sorry i'll scroll out a little bit yeah and then and then how is that vented how is that

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going to be vented is it vented through the building is it vented how that's it's my

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understanding it's vented through the building um but miss lee if there's is that your understanding

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as well how are you going to vent the something through out the back and it's going to have the

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scrubber so it won't have any grease so it goes through a scrubber first and it goes out the back

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okay and what's the now you said bakery so it's a bakery and restaurant i'm not familiar with

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the restaurant so i don't know what's that so it's a bakery but in the code because it's got

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But I think in the code, the maximum you can have for a takeout is four seats.

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And most of the applications I've had for a bakery, it's been qualified as a takeout restaurant.

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But because it's got approximately 50 seats and the intent is that everything is going to be baked on site, everything is going to be consumed on site, that puts us in the category of a sit-down restaurant under the code.

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Gotcha.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Other questions?

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Yep.

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So is this an expansion or like this is another site for you guys to operate?

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So, I'm sorry.

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So this is actually the old, so Selkie is going to be the franchisee for this particular location,

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but it's my understanding that Ms. Lee is not affiliated with that university city location.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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The university city location is going to be our second location, actually.

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It's not open yet. Oh, I got it. So you'll eventually, you'll eventually open that out there. Okay. All right. Thank you. I wonder, and I was like, no, I know that there's an open. Okay.

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Other questions, other questions, and then you're gonna, the idea is that there's not gonna be any, um, uh, distribution, shall we say from this bakery to the other side, or how is that gonna work?

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so because the university city location is our second location we're going to distribute this

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distribute to that location okay it's only between like if i own this location so i got

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only stores that i could distribute to okay all right um but i do think that this is

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And how are you going to, when you do this, how are you going to do this?

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You're going to use trucks, you're going to use vans.

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How are you going to transport the goods from the one location to the other location?

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We were planning to use like a small van.

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Yeah, just a small van.

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I don't think it's going to be a truckload.

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