Thank you, Councilman DiCicco. I appreciate it. Good morning, Mr. Lonie. How are you?
Thank you for your testimony. Just a couple items. First, let me again say thank you to you for your ongoing efforts to serve the City and work with us on issues like the retaining wall problem throughout the City and the pilot program that we now have going, the work that's being done and specifically a longstanding problem in my own district that I know you're aware of and, I don't know, I guess they're about 50, 60 percent maybe more complete. 67 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714
Hopefully, we'll be finished that project by the end of next week.
And I mention that to you, I guess, in the context that -- I mean I worked on, and many other Members of Council certainly before me, but I started on that particular project and the need to have a program in place to deal with that issue about a month after I got here in 1992. Eleven years or so later, we're actually finally doing something on it, because it is a massive problem, it is a very costly problem, but we overcame a whole host of challenges and now the citizens of the City are starting to see some of the benefit, not in the 4th District, but presently in the 8th and the 9th Council Districts. I think the Streets Department is planning to do even more in the next fiscal year. So that's first. Second, I think literally just yesterday a different department of the government where this Council is very interested in and other significant cost the taxpayers have been required to bear which is 68 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 dealing with the whole sewer lateral situation throughout the City. And the Water Department is working closely with us and the sponsor of that particular bill to make sure that citizens have some relief in that regard. Some of this, as you mentioned, the 2300 miles of street and the 4500 or so acres of sidewalk and million square blocks of 10 concrete are certainly massive if not 11 mind-boggling numbers, the $50 per square 12 block to repair the sidewalk and on and on. 13 Again, I think from your own experience, you 14 would recognize that is there were significant 15 financial numbers presented again when we 16 talked about the retaining wall problem. But 17 through your efforts and research and 18 technology changes, I think you've even 19 demonstrated the ability to significantly cut 20 the cost in that have particular area. 21 Lastly, I think your testimony, 22 which I just received a copy of, talks about if 5 percent of the City sidewalks need to replace, it would cost some astronomical number. I think we don't know at the moment 69 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 how many of the sidewalks would need to be replaced or how many people would make the request. What we do know is that there is a significant problem out in our City. I don't think you would deny that. And if some of our citizens bear that that financial expense, they probably would; some others cannot; some others will not. But just as we take care of the 2300 miles of streets in the City because we repave them on a fairly regular basis throughout the City without regard to whether it's in front of a lower income person's house or higher income person's house, we provide a certain level of service. So I'm not saying that we should go out and massively start taking over all the sidewalks in the City. We obviously have to do a fair amount of evaluation. But again, as I learned from you from the past, when we did the retaining wall project, the first effort was to put forward a bill that talked about how much people would pay. And that's all we did. And subsequently through other pieces of legislation and the identification of funding sources and the 70 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 like, we actually came up with a program. We're going through the same process. Presently, as you know, from the Philadelphia Code, taxpayers are required a hundred percent. And in most instances they don't and sidewalks continue to be a danger to everyone on the block, not just the individual homeowners in front of whose house the danger exists. Certainly, trees are another big issue. The Fairmount Park Commission sometime ago tried to shift its responsibility from taking care of the street trees of the City back onto the homeowners. Again, we in this Council and a previous administration changed that. And now maintenance of street trees is actually a significant component of the NTI program under Mayor Street. So these issues come to us from time to time and we seek to address the problems.
I guess I lastly would that say even if the bill were to pass, the questions that you raise -- and there are others -- are very important questions that need to be resolved. 71 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 And so even with the passage of the bill, it does not mean at the moment that the City is going to come out and make those repairs. There are issues of how do you address the 70 percent? How do you make sure you collect the 30 percent? What can we learn from other cities across the country? You and I have talked on number of occasions about a program in Chicago where they have a specific program called the 50/50 Sidewalk Program where the citizens pay a certain amount, the City picks up a certain amount, low income seniors pay a lesser amount, recognizing their social economic challenge. So I think that if we can put some of our swords back where they belong, this is a long process. It is a start. And it's a first step in trying to have a longer arranging program. So I appreciate the issues that have been raised and certainly we'll use the testimony in a positive way to make sure that we answer all if those questions, but this is a first step in the process. 72 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 I appreciate your testimony, your interest in the issues that are raised and I'm deeply appreciative that you would come and give the testimony and make sure that we're proceeding along the right path. Thank you.
Yes. I just would like to say one thing. There are slight differences between the programs. The way Pennsylvania law is that all people are responsible for a driveway together. A sidewalk, the laws -- Pennsylvania laws, not Philadelphia ones that are specifically that you're only responsible for the sidewalk in front of your property. If there's a damaged sidewalk down the street, that is not your responsibility. Only the one in front of your property is your responsibility. Again, this is State of Pennsylvania law. The difference in Illinois is that Illinois law it was a municipality's responsibility to take care of sidewalks. They actually got the citizens to 73 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 kick in more money in that.
Well, let me also mention to you, though, that even here in the great City of Philadelphia, the City supports a program called the Model Blocks Program. It is supported by grant funds from a foundation as well CDBG funds. It is limited because of the dollars that they have. They happen to be working in one part of my district and I think in another part of the City. But it is a program funded partially by the City where they work with the neighbors on the block, because the reality here is that in many of our neighborhoods, to some extent, the neighbors are fairly equally situated from a financial standpoint. And often they're also fairly equally situated in some neighborhoods by age and the age of the homes. So in the Model Blocks Program, the split actually is 70/30. They figure out the total cost of the work. It is for the entire block. All the neighbors have to sign up or some high proportion of the neighbors, again, similar to the program in Chicago. And when they figure 74 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 out what the cost is, the neighbors split that 30 percent share in accordance with how much frontage they have. There are a lot of ways to develop this. So I would only ask that we keep our minds open. We've gone in many instances from the answer being no on certain things to the answer being yes and life going on. So I don't think at the moment at least -- and I know this is not you -- we don't need to dig our heels in right at the beginning. We have plenty of time for that. But I think if we're creative and we keep out minds open, take different things from different places, this idea from that program and another idea from other program, we can come up with something. Because the reality here is it is something that people do care very deeply about in different parts of the City. And I don't think that we can get away from that. Now, we can't do everything for people and I recognize that, but different neighborhoods have different needs and we should try to be as flexible as possible, reasonable about how we 75 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 expend our resources, but also trying to deliver service because I think that's the business that we're all in.
I agree, Councilman. Again, no where in there did we say that we were totally opposed to any form of this. We said -- and I said and the Department, that we feel that this is somewhat premature. We'd really like to work a little closer with Council and the Administration, develop a really good program that could work. And that's all we're asking for really is that time to take a look at some of these things in a little closer area.
Well, you know as they say, a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. We took the first step. Just keep walking. Thank you, Mr. Lonie
I walked with him through Center City. He's tough to keep up with. His steps are much, much larger than mine.
Because I'm usually running late, Councilman. 76 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714
I have a couple questions. When the Water Department does a reconstruction of a street, generally the curbs and a portion of the sidewalk are replaced -- my colleagues and I were just talking this because we all have the same problem -- we then get a call from the property owner saying that the sidewalk is going to look like a checker board, I just had my sidewalk done a year ago, now the discoloration, and the whole variety of reasons why they're concerned. And then what we tell them is, well, if you want rest of the sidewalk done you're going to have to pay for it. And we generally work out a fairly reasonable cost because the contractor is on site and it's not like bringing somebody in. But in any event, the homeowners generally feel that it's something that they should not have to pay for. Does it come out of the Streets Department budget for pay for that sidewalk, or is that part of the --
There's two different 77 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 methods. One, and it really comes down to who's got the money in this contract. There is combined contracts with Water money and Streets money. But most of the time if it's the lateral, since the Water Department tends to sometimes have more money than the Streets Department does, it generally comes out of their budget.
Just this past summer, 2400 block South 12th Street had one of those circumstances, as you know. And I wind up expending about $80,000 of my capital dollars that I'm allocated for my district just to make everybody happy because it was just out of control down there. But that's not the first time that I've had to do that. So in effect, we are spending taxpayers dollars to do someone else's sidewalk. My next question is, when the Water Department does a reconstruction on a street, a block that there's no one living on, I notice that there are new sidewalks and curbs, entire sidewalks are put in place, not one block, it's two blocks or three depending on 78 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 whatever the width was. Who makes that decision? And that is not an unusual situation. I see it happen in many instances. No one even lives there and we're putting sidewalks in where no one even lives.
The standard if over 50 percent of the sidewalks are disturbed then they'll be completely replaced. If it's under 50 percent, then they'll just be repaired.
But I see streets where there was virtually no sidewalk before the new sewers were put in. I understand the sewer needs to get done even though there's no one living there because it may connect with a street or two further away where there are people who live on a block, so the connections have to be contiguous. But -- I mean, this has gone on for years. I go back to the late '70s, early '80s. It was happening everywhere. Streets were totally uninhabited, sidewalks and curbs were being put in. And then the streets where people were living and paying taxes, you couldn't get a sidewalk. 79 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714
Well, that goes back to that Community Development Block Grant money that was there. And believe me, I in those days laid a lot of those out and I by the life of me had no clue in the world why it was decided to be put in a certain place.
Not those types of programs. The only time we replace curbs and sidewalks now is if the Water Department has gone in and basically torn up a street. In South Philadelphia, a lot of the streets are narrow and they damage the whole thing and that has to be replaced.
But I'm talking about streets that have no people living on them, no houses on them. If the Water Department comes in and does more than 50 percent of reconstruction, you will put a sidewalk and curb in?
Point of 80 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 information, Mr. Chairman
Wasn't there some redevelopment money? I remember there was a job on Torresdale Avenue where all the curbs and sidewalks were replaced in the business district. Could you elaborate on that?
Sure. Redevelopment funds are allocated and they can be used for curb and sidewalk. Again, as Councilman we were talking to Councilman Nutter, this all comes down to a matter of funding, this comes down to a matter or prioritizing where the money should go. For every dollar we spend on a sidewalk is a dollar we can't spend on a street. If the Redevelopment Authority has been allocated so much money, when they redo a whole block of houses or apartments or whatever, they'll allocate money for the sidewalk as part of their -- they just did it in, I think it's Councilwoman Miller's district up off of Broad Street. 81 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714
If there's a commercial corridor, it falls under a different category of funding. They do that it's a project that's for the general public as opposed to a residential block and comes out of Capital dollars. It's run through the Commerce Department. So that's a little different, Councilman. That may be what you're talking about.
If it's a commercial corridor then there's a designated category of funding.
I believe that they widened the sidewalk and I think it was Torresdale Avenue near Cottman and they widened the sidewalk and it was totally reconstructed for the business district. And I believe it was Redevelopment dollars that did that.
There are a few different funding sources for that. There's Redevelopment. Some of the CDCs have money 82 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 for that. Center City District has allocated some money for that. But again, it's all streetscape improvements.
Okay. I just wanted to make sure I had the whole picture.
But what we're dealing with in this bill is more like a repair, not necessarily an upgrade.
Councilman DiCicco, can I just get my point in that I was going to ask? Councilman Nutter talked about the first step. I remember when a tree would buckle a sidewalk and it was the responsibility after the tree was removed for the homeowner to repair the damage that the tree created. I think that we've stepped forward and we're repairing -- either the Fairmount Park Commission or the Streets Department are making those repairs after the tree is removed. Am I correct on that?
We are? Is 83 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 that true?
No, I mean, it still comes down -- I just had this conversation yesterday with Fairmount Park. What they'd love to see is to be able to take the sidewalks out and put blacktop over that area so as not to kill the tree.
Well, they didn't want to kill the tree. In other words, a lot of times if you have a main root that's buckled the side walk and you cut it out of there, that's an additional $1300 expense to do that if you're going to repair the sidewalk.
Let me go back. We take a tree out. The sidewalk's buckled because the tree. Today, who is responsible for repairing the sidewalk after the tree --
It's not supposed to be. I understood that there was some -- 84 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 Fairmount Park assumed that responsibility to repair that sidewalk.
That was going to be my question too. Who's responsible? If it's Fairmount Park's tree, maybe I don't want it on my sidewalk. Maybe it was there when I moved there.
I believe if we check we'll find that something in the last year or so, two years, may have changed because of the removal of street trees were going to done by the Fairmount Park Commission that the permanent repair to the sidewalk was also done by them. So I think we need to check on that because I believe there is --
You could be very right. Again, that goes back to my original testimony saying that we really need to look at some of these issues that I don't think we've looked at closely enough. And I'd really like to do that because these things come up and it's 85 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 just difficult to --
Because the last thing we should do is take a tree out, break out the concrete to remove the root when they take out the stump and leave a block of concrete missing. I think we have some liability.
We'd have to serve the property owner a notice to tell them to repair.
Could you check and get back to the Chair? I believe that the Fairmount Park Commission is restoring those sidewalks. I believe. I might be wrong.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don't want belabor the point, and I appreciate your accommodation. Mr. Lonie, let me just ask one quick question. From Section 11-505 of the Philadelphia Code, (8), and this is talking 86 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 about street resurfacing, I believe. The Code reads, "Whenever any street is to be paved, repaved or resurfaced and replacement of existing curb and/or sidewalk is a necessary element of the street improvement in the judgment of the Department of Streets, such curb and/or sidewalk replacement shall be at the expense of the City, provided however that the curb and/or sidewalk replacement be for the restoration of the existing curb and/or sidewalk and not in any way for the maintenance of the same." Are you familiar with the section of the Code?
Can you tell me how many times in the judgement of the Department of Streets over the past year, two years, five years or ten years that they've ever determined that it was a necessary element of the street resurfacing that the curb and/or sidewalk need to be replaced?
Many. Mostly dealing with state highways because the dollars there 87 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 are a little bit looser to deal with.
Again, most of the time if it was determined mainly that if you were going to reconstruct a street -- it's mainly in reconstruction. If you're just resurfacing something --
I understand that. This section is not dealing with the reconstruction.
Well, I know, but it is resurfacing. What we do now -- we used to do more of that because we would just overlay. If you only had a one-inch curb and you're going to put two inches of asphalt, you had a problem. Now, almost everything we do we mill. We mill down to the original surface and put it back in, which has cut down a lot on the reconstruction of the curbs and sidewalks.
I would think that this section of the Code was dealing with situations where the curb and/or sidewalk is 88 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 in a deteriorated condition. Now the resurfacing has taken place. So I'm assuming when this ordinance was put into place or at least amended in 1973 that the issue here was, you go out and you're going to do a resurfacing job. You take a look at the street. I know we take pictures, we do the whole thing. What is the criteria for the judgment to be used by the Department of Streets that given the condition of the street and given the condition of the curb and sidewalk adjoining that particular street, that this provision No. 8 would be utilized in places where people live, not on state highways?
If you're milling a street and the curb has seriously deteriorated and it's going to fall over, we're not going to put a street back there with no curb next to it. We always have concern dollars in our contract, small dollars in case this happens. We do not program for any maintenance of existing sidewalks.
I understand 89 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 that. Well, it's not for maintenance, it's for complete removal and restoration. What I'd like to know is on a yearly basis for that last years, I'd like to know where this particular provision of the Philadelphia Code was utilized in normal street resurfacing situations. I'd like to know what streets, I'd like to know when, and what work was done on the curb or sidewalk area. If this particular provision of the Code was utilized, I'd like to know where it was utilized.
Well, the one that comes to my mind first and foremost is Ogontz Avenue. That's basically a resurfacing project. But there are certain bump-outs and different curbs that needed to be replaced to facilitate --
Are you creating the bump-outs or were the bump-outs there?
No, we were creating the bump-outs. We're moving some of the different things like that. But again, that's -- I'll check, but as far as maintenance, I don't 90 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 think I'm going to find anything.
I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Lonie. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
One other question. Philadelphia Housing Authority developments, when there are streets that are existing streets but new housing is being put in place, who pays for the sidewalks and curbs?
No. And we really would like them to allocate more dollars for that because they'll come in and if they're redeveloping, they're putting all new sewer and water lines in, again, you're going back to the checker board. When they will not allocate dollars for that, we do not have it in our budget. And we would love the Housing Authority to do that.
Because a couple years ago, I had a private developer 91 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030714 who wanted to build some housing in South Philadelphia, but the cost of the sewer systems being put in and curbs and sidewalks basically caused him not to do the project because it just ate too much into his profits. And at that time -- I'm not saying it was you, Paul. Someone testified that PHA, Streets Department and our Water Department paid for new sidewalks and curbs.
No, City Capital dollars were used, but they were not dollars that were in the Streets Department Capital budget. They were in the PHA housing budget, not ours.
Thank you. Any further questions for this witness? (No response.)
Thank you, Paul. Anyone else here who wishes to testify for or against this bill? (No response.)
Seeing none, the Clerk will read the title of the next 92 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030715 bill.
Bill No. 030175, an ordinance granting permission to Saint Joseph's University, a Pennsylvania non-profit corporation (educational), its successors and assigns to construct, maintain and operate, replace, and remove conduits for electrical power supply and telecommunications purposes under 53rd and 54th Streets south of City Avenue and on a pedestrian bridge over City Avenue between 54th Street and Cardinal Avenue, and electrical and telecommunications cables for private electrical and telecommunications systems in such conduits; all under certain terms and conditions.
Good morning, Chairman and Members of the Committee. My name is William Mautz and I'm a Construction Engineer with the Streets Department. I'm here to offer the following testimony for Bill No. 22 030715 on behalf of the Streets Department. This bill authorizes Saint Joseph University to construct, own and maintain underground electrical and telecommunications 93 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030720 conduit beneath 53rd and 54th Street east of City Avenue an aerial electrical telecommunications conduit attached to the pedestrian bridge crossing City Avenue between 54th and Cardinal Avenue. The Streets Department has reviewed the construction plan for this project and has no objections to the passage of the bill.
Thank you. Any questions for this witness from the Committee? (No response.)
Anyone else here who wishes to testify for or against it? (No response.)
Seeing none, the Clerk will read the title of the next bill.
Bill No. 030720, an ordinance amending Section 12-2409 of the Philadelphia Code, entitled "Towing Zone Locations and Hours," by providing for additional Towing Zone Locations, under terms conditions. 94 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030720
Mr. Chairman, Members of the Committee, my name is Greg James. I am President of the Overbrook Farms East Residents Association. It's very interesting to be back in City Council after my long hiatus. We've asked the Councilman, Councilman Nutter, to write a bill because of the problem we've had with illegal parking in our area. People park in front of driveways, sometimes as much as a week or longer. We have no recourse when this happens other than having a ticket issued which means that the homeowner is held hostage in their own property. We've tried numerous things over the last seven or eight years to relieve this problem. The only thing that we could finally come up with is a tow away zone in our area. We would appreciate you passing this bill. We think it would go a long way to solving a lot of other problems arising through illegal parking in our area. 95 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030720
My name is Juanita Daniels, and I'm a resident of the Overbrook/Wynnefield residence. I'm here to support Bill 030720. As a resident of the Overbrook area, I am experiencing ongoing problem with Saint Joe's students and their friends blocking or encroaching my driveway. I have called Saint Joe's and the police department many times. Most of time, the police do not respond. And when they do respond, they only issue one ticket. The car still remains there creating a problem. I have had my driveway blocked all day before the person finally arrived to remove it. If there was an emergency, I would have been unable to get out. I would like to see this bill passed so my neighbors and I can be relieved of this ongoing problem.
Good morning, Mr. 96 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030720 Chairman, Councilman Nutter, other members of City Council. My name is Robert Skomorucha, S-K-O-M-O-R-U-C-H-A. I'm the Assistant Vice President for Government and Community Relations at Saint Joseph's University, and I'm greatly thankful for the opportunity to come today to unconditionally support this bill. Saint Joseph's University over the last couple of years in particular with guidance and advice from Councilman Nutter has worked very closely, especially with Mr. Greg James in the Overbrook Farms East Residents Association, as well as the Wynnefield Residents Association, as well as Overbrook Farms Club headed up by Mr. Dennis Green. We have written in support of this bill to Councilman Nutter in the springtime. We think it will provide a useful and equitable to address illegal parking that occurs admittedly so primarily with some Saint Joseph's students but also on occasion with others who are not in any way affiliated with Saint Joe's. And we think this would be a fair an equitable way 97 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030720 to address this issue.
I want to maybe ask Councilman Nutter that we also should think about the situation the lady just described about the driveway being blocked. Another thing, I don't think our residents know about how close they can encroach to the driveway. Some people rally make it difficult. They're right there and then there's a car on the other side you you've got to kind of snake your way through the two parked cars. My point being, should there be something in this tow away area that discuss that fact you should park X number of feet back? I think the Motor Vehicle Code is very clear about that.
Councilman, I think you're right. I think believe, though, that there may actually be a provision in Title 12 of the Philadelphia Code, our Title 12, relating to how close you can park to a 98 11/19/03 - STREETS - BILL 030720 driveway, I believe. I'm fairly certain. And I think it may be five feet, but don't hold me to the number. Let me go take a look at that, because I want to make sure at the same time that we're not doing anything that is in conflict with the Pennsylvania Motor Vehicle Code. But I am explore that issue between now and final passage. Thank you. It is a great idea.
Thank you. Any other questions for this witness? (No response.)
Anyone else here who wishes to testify? (No response.)
Seeing none, this concludes the public hearing on the Committee on Streets and Services. - - - - 99 COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA PUBLIC MEETING COMMITTEE ON STREETS AND SERVICES - - - - Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - - - - Public meeting conducted by the Committee on Streets and Services, held in Room 696, City Hall, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on the above date, to consider action on the following: BILLS 030671, 030672, 030681, 030683, 030685, 030687, 030688, 030691, 030693, 030694, 030696, 030697, 030712, 030714, 030715, 030720. PRESENT: COUNCILMAN FRANK DICICCO, Chair COUNCILMAN DARRELL CLARKE COUNCILMAN WILSON GOODE COUNCILWOMAN DONNA REED MILLER COUNCILMAN FRANK RIZZO 100 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING
We will now go into the public meeting. The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I make a motion that the amendment, as read into the record, for Bill No. 030671 be approved. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that the amendment to Bill No. 030671 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I make a motion that Bill No. 25 030671, as amended, be reported out of 101 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING Committee with favorable recommendation and a suspension of the rules.
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 6 030671, as amended, be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Thank you Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that Bill No. 030762 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 102 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING 030672 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I make a motion 030681 be reported out the this Committee favorably and a request for suspension of the rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 20 030681 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. 103 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING (Aye.)
Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that Bill No. 030683, as amended be approved and reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 16 030683, as amended, be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
The bill is 104 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING approved. Councilman Clarke.
I move that Bill 5 No. 030685 be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 11 030685 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I make a motion that Bill No. 030687 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation, and a 105 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 6 030687 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I move that Bill 18 No. 030688 be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation, and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 24 030688 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules 106 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I move that Bill 12 No. 030691 be reported out of Committee favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 18 030691 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Those opposed? (No response.) 107 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING
I move that Bill 6 No. 030692 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 12 030692 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I move that Bill 24 No. 030693 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for 108 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 6 030693 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I move that Bill 18 No. 030694 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 24 030694 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules 109 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I move that Bill 12 No. 030696 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 18 030696 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Those opposed? (No response.) 110 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING
I move that Bill 6 No. 030697 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 12 030697 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I move that Bill 24 NO. 030712 be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation and request for a 111 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 6 030712 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A request by the sponsor of the bill to move Bill No. 030714 out of Committee with a favorable recommendation and a suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 25 030714 be reported out of this Committee with 112 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
I'm voting nay until there's further discussion with the Streets Department because I don't want people to think they're going can to get -- the City right now is going pay for curbs and sidewalk.
The bill passes 3 to 2. The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I make a motion that Bill No. 21 030715 be reported out of Committee with favorable recommendation and a request for suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been 113 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 3 030715 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. (Aye.)
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move that Bill No. 030720 be reported out of Committee with a favorable recommendation and a request for suspension of the Rules. (Duly seconded.)
It's been properly moved and seconded that Bill No. 22 030720 be reported out of this Committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the Rules of Council be suspended. All those in favor, signify by 114 11/19/03 - STREETS - PUBLIC MEETING saying aye. (Aye.)
The bill is approved. This concludes the public meeting of the Committee on Streets and Services. I want to thank all Committee Members for attending and for your participation. (Council adjourned at 11:55 a.m.) 115 C E R T I F I C A T I O N I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing proceedings of the Council of the City of Philadelphia of November 19, 2003, were reported fully and accurately by me, and that this is a correct transcript of the same. RE: COMMITTEE ON STREETS AND SERVICES _________________________ Lisa C. Bradley, RPR