You know, with certified mail and chasing around people who have 140 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - BILL 970590 no interest in coming after this piece of crap they left on the street. You put a notice on it, it explains what the law is, Section whatever of the Philadelphia Code says that you can't sell cars on the street. From the time of this notice going on the car, which, hopefully, the person puts the time down that they slapped the notice on, and you have 48 hours from this moment to either get that sign out of that car or move this vehicle, or it will be immobilized.
But it could also be, the ticket that is issued for the sale is sufficient notice in itself. And if you had to put a sticker on it, okay, but the ticket would indicate the time that the ticket was issued so it's hours after the issuance of the ticket. 18
Yeah. I mean, 19 there are a lot of -- I mean, you know, you guys 20 are in this business. All we're suggesting is 21 that there could be some ways to actually make it 22 work. 23
I absolutely agree, and I 24 please don't want you to think that I'm coming here to say, No, this can't work. 141 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - BILL 970590 But what I'm suggesting, for instance, is an excellent way to provide the very kind of notification that you're talking about is to issue some of the tickets under the present regulations that we could be issuing and are not, and would very much like to do that as a way of both public education and as acting as a deterrent to the problem.
Well, I'm not sure what you're now saying. How does it help us to get rid of these cars with better enforcement? Say a ticket is issued, then what under current law?
There are two aspects. Some people will actually change their behavior based on the first citation, some will change it on the second or the third, some will not, and they will eventually become seizure-eligible by failure to respond to those citations.
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Three, and then another notice and so on. And then we're in a position where we impound that vehicle. And I just think that's a much safer way to proceed.
Well, I would like to hear -- I think the Chairman expressed the notion of our reporting the bill out but having it -- but not waiving the Council rules so that there's a period of time. I think we would all like to get a proposal from the Administration of a quick way to effectuate notice that would prepare the car for immediate immobilization and removal. That's what we're aiming at. We'd like to get rid of the cars more than the immobilization, 'cause the immobilization is further blight. You know, you now have that yellow boot. We'd like to get rid of the car. We'd like to have everybody comfortable about the notice requirements -- certainly the group that's working on this problem.
Would that be agreeable? Do you think that could be done? Will 143 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - BILL 970590 you take the message back to the Parking Authority?
That we would like to have a specific proposal so that we could amend the bill when it comes up on second reading, two weeks from, I guess, from the 4th.
Are there any other questions for Mr. Connors? (No further questions.)
Hearing none, is there anyone else to testify on this bill? (No response.)
Hearing none, that will conclude the hearing of the Rules Committee. - - - 144 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING
We will now convene the public hearing of the Rules Committee. The Chair recognizes Councilman Nutter for a motion on Bill No. 990601.
Mr. Chairman, I move that Bill 990601 be reported out of this committee with a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. (Duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? There are none opposed. Bill No. 990601 will be reported out of this committee favorably, and a request will be made for suspension of the rules to allow for first reading at our next session of Council. Let the record indicate that Councilmember Ortiz, who was assigned to the committee for purposes of a quorum, was voting yes on Bill No. 990601. The Chair recognizes Councilmember DiCicco to approve the amendment to Bill No. 145 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING 980550.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I make a motion that Bill No. 5 980550, as amended, be --
To adopt the amendment for Bill No. 980550. (Duly seconded.)
Moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? There are none opposed. The amendment is adopted. The Chair recognizes Councilman DiCicco for a motion on the amended bill.
I move that Bill 21 No. 980550, as amended, be reported out of this committee with a favorable recommendation, and a further recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of City Council. 146 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING (Duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? There are none opposed. Bill No. 7 990550, as amended, will be reported out of this committee favorably, and a request will be made for a suspension of the rules to allow for first reading at our next session. For the record, Councilmember Ortiz is voting aye. The Chair recognizes Councilman DiCicco for a motion on Bill No. 980684.
I move that Bill 15 No. 980864 be reported out of this committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of City Council. (Duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? There are none opposed. Bill No. 24 980684 will be reported out of this committee favorably, and a request will be made for a 147 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING suspension of the rules to allow for first reading at our next session of Council. And Council Councilmember Ortiz is voting aye. The Chair recognizes Councilman DiCicco again for a motion on Bill No. 990425.
Thank you. I move that Bill No. 990425 be reported out of this committee with a favorable recommendation, and that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of City Council. (Duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? There are none opposed. Bill No. 18 990425 will be reported out of this Committee favorably and a request will be made for a rules suspension to allow for first reading at our next Council session. The Chair recognizes Councilmember DiCicco to for a motion approve the amendment offered by Mr. Nardone to Bill No. 980048.
Thank you, Mr. 148 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING Chairman. I move for the adoption of the amendment to Bill No. 980048. (Duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? Are there any opposed to the amendment? There are none opposed. The amendment is approved to Bill No. 980048. The Chair recognizes Councilman DiCicco for a motion on the amended bill.
I move that Bill 14 No. 980048, as amended, be reported out of this committee with a favorable recommendation. (Duly seconded.)
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? Those opposed? Councilmember Cohen is opposed and Councilmember Ortiz has left his vote as being a opposed. Bill 980048, as amended, will be reported out of this committee favorably, and there is no request for a rules suspension. You didn't make a request, did you? 149 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING
Okay. The Chair recognizes Councilman DiCicco for a motion on Bill 5 No. 970590.
I move that Bill 7 No. 970590 be reported out of this committee with a favorable recommendation. (Duly seconded.)
In the hearing, Mr. Chairman, I know that Councilman Cohen and possibly other members raised issues with regard to the Law Department about this particular bill. I may have missed some of the colloquy back and forth. What exactly are we asking the Law Department for? What are we awaiting before --
My expectation is that the request -- that the primary sponsor of the bill will be making a request to the Law 150 10/26/99 RULES COMM. - PUBLIC MEETING Department for guidance on procedural and constitutional issues relative to the final passage of the bill.
And for that purpose, I didn't ask for the suspension.
It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, aye? There are none opposed. Bill No. 12 970590 will be reported out of this committee favorably. That concludes the business of the Rules Committee. Thank you for your attendance. By the way, I'm sorry. Just so the record's clear, Bills No. 980274 and 980275 will be held to the call of the sponsor. Thank you. (Adjourned at 3:35 p.m.) - - - 151 C E R T I F I C A T E I HEREBY CERTIFY that the foregoing proceedings of the Council of the City of Philadelphia of Tuesday, October 26, 1999, were reported fully and accurately by me, and that this is a correct transcript of same. RE: COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON RULES BILL NO.'S 970590, 980048, 980724, 980725, 980550, 980684, 990425, 990601 __________________________________, JOSEPHINE CARDILLO, Registered Professional Reporter