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ZBA Hearing - March 10, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Mar 10, 20215h 3m

We do have utility rooms situated on each of the floors,

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which would allow for trash storage

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to put it out of the way in between trash pickup.

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As I previously mentioned,

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we will have commercial trash pickup

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as part of this rental property.

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And the third floor, as I mentioned,

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is a mirror image of the bottom floor.

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It's a little bit larger bedrooms

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because of how the stairs work in.

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but these are substantially sized units and my client hopes to do a higher end renovation to

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provide some quality housing to the neighborhood that's severely been lacking in affordable rental

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options. I did mention previously there are other multi-family properties on the block

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and at exhibit 10 are just some of the references to the other properties that have multi-family.

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2138, which is three doors down, is approved for a triplex use, three-family dwelling.

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2143, North 21st Street, is approved for a two-family dwelling.

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2151, North 21st Street, again, is a triplex.

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And 2161 is currently approved for a three-family dwelling, triplex.

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so we did we are tax compliant I have included a copy of the deed as part of the package and we

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met with provided notice to all the RCOs we do a full letter of support and we would request that

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the board allow grant the variance to allow the first floor to be used for a third rental unit

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rather than the existing permitted use of a commercial doctor's office that really isn't

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viable at this location or desired by the community.

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Mr. McElhatton, listen to me.

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I'm sorry.

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Do you have your client?

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Mr. Brown, can you, he's on his phone.

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He's on a computer to view the images, but is on his phone to speak.

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You can get him on just to adopt your testimony.

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Yes.

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Can you please hit star nine to raise your hand so that you can be brought in to speak?

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Does this phone number end in 7731? That's correct. Okay.

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That's correct.

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Okay.

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Mr. Brown, you can unmute yourself and speak.

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Good morning, Mr. Brown. Please identify yourself with a wrecker and I'll swear you in.

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Yes, how you doing? My name is Deshay Brown, D-A-S-H-A-Y, last name Brown, B-R-O-W-N.

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You swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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yes thank you mr mckelhenny mr brown did you hear the statements that i put on the record this

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morning yes and to the best of your knowledge were they true and accurate yes and would you

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adopt those statements as your own statements absolutely i have no further questions

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questions from the board no no no what else would like to testify in this case if so please raise

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your hand here we have a tina marie russell miss russell you can unmute yourself and speak

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good morning can you hear me yes please identify yourself with the record and i'll swear you in

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tina marie russell north central philadelphia cdc

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firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth yes i do please proceed okay so

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we agree with this project we have the further you have the following provisos

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okay so um we would like to we would like to make sure that um the the front of the

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the uh building is consistent with the nature of our community as far as the outside appearance

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that is something that is not enforceable by the board but please proceed okay then we would also

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like to um again get a construction schedule for the residents and we would like to make sure

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there's no basement dwelling and we would like to um ensure how do we ensure if that's possible

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that there's indeed a doctor's office going to be in that location and that is not going to be

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enforceable by us we can uh do the proviso uh prohibiting any living guests quarters in the

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basement okay so and there's no way to put prohibiting um because i understand that he's

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looking to put a doctor's office there correct no it's three apartments you're right three apartments

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We're requesting three, yeah.

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It was prior you

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permitted for a doctor's office. There's no

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desire for a doctor's office at this

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location.

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Okay, so then we would like to make,

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sorry, do we have a schedule of the

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And then we'd also like to see if

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the applicant would be agreeable

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to utilizing the

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workforce from the community.

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Laura, that's going to be

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the appointment.

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Say it again, sorry.

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First floor will be an apartment.

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It'll be three units.

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No, I'm saying the workforce.

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I'm saying he could use the-

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Oh, workforce.

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Again, that is something you need to work out

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with the attorney and the developer.

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Okay.

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All right?

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else?

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There are no other hands at this time, Chair.

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Thank you.

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Planning Commission?

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Thank you, Chair DeChico.

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Ian Hegarty for the Philadelphia City Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change

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to the single family zoning on this site however the proposed uses are consistent with the prior

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approved uses for two dwelling units in a separate professional office unit and so the city planning

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commission recommends that the zoning board grant the variance. Thank you MI 2020-002745

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2132 North 21st Street my vote is yes with the proviso no residential use of the basement.

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yes with proviso

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yes with proviso

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yes with proviso

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yes with proviso

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calendar number

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1317

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3101

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Cotman Avenue

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the attorney is

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Joe Consul

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Mr. Consul you've been promoted

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to panelists you can unmute and speak he's already been sworn in carol okay thank you

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mr consul can you put your name and address on the record please yes it's joseph consul

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that's c-o-n-s-o-l-e address 1 west 3rd street suite 204 media pennsylvania one nine zero six

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three do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy

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I do, yes.

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Have you mailed the email packet with proof of ownership, tax compliance, refusal, referral, photos and or.

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with proof of ownership tax compliance refusal referral photos and or plans of the property

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five days in advance of this hearing and have you met with the rco and do you have a letter

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uh the everything but for the rco bit we had spoken earlier regarding the rco situation where

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my client had met with them twice uh and um they uh had asked me to come back once i got involved

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uh the client wanted to um put this part of the hearing on the record and earlier we agreed that

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we could do that and hold a decision pending my meeting with the rco which will be next week

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okay you may proceed uh i'm trying to figure out how to share my screen um

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they want to do that on a windows computer i apologize i'm working on a colleague's computer

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right now if you have yes i can help you thank you if you look at the bottom of your screen on

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the zoom you'll see the share screen button the green one oh it's different than how it normally

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is okay but but you should right you're working it now all right uh i'm all right thank you

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okay uh this is 3103 cotman avenue uh philadelphia pa um the owner is mr chen

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um he purchased this this property uh and at the time it was purchased uh it still uh on the

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outside appeared to be a spine center what's sort of like confusing about this property is and if

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you look through the zoning archives 3101 and 3103 the first what what here appears to be the

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ground floor, but there's actually another ground floor around the side of 3101. But the floor that

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you see here is one doctor's office that spans both of these two units, that 3101 and 3103.

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And in the zoning archives, it's been approved. And in the past, in 2008, when this was applied

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for and approved they they squeezed both uh applications onto one or both both addresses

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onto one application and it got approved as such um see if i can bring that up

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uh so going through the archive here there's just several examples uh here's one um where they

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discuss both 3101 and 3103. So the setup of the properties is actually on the ground floor,

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3101 and 3103 have a doctor's office. On the second floor, there is one unit at the top of

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3101 and one unit at the top of 3103. And then around the side on the ground floor, there is

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another unit on 3101. So when my clients applied this time to change the professional use from a

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doctor's office to a real estate office, they got a refusal for both the commercial use on the first

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floor, but also for both of the residential units. These units and the office have been

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occupied since 2008. There's tenants in both of the units in 3101. It's just confusing. And

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admittedly, I've been wrapping my head around how to present it because the doctor's office

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occupies both properties um and it had been approved as as such prior to that and the more

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that i say it out loud the more i realize it's probably where some of the rco confusion came in

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as well uh and um yeah so that that's sort of the situation so um we have a doctor's office

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that they want to use as a real estate office the floor plans of which are included here

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And then 3101 has two of its own units, and that has had a continuous rental license, and is currently occupied as a two-unit building.

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So it's sort of a weird one, but what they're seeking to do is use it as two units and a doctor's office, but that office spans two properties.

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and they want to use it instead of a doctor's office

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as a real estate office.

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I'd like to call my client, Mr. Chen,

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to speak about this a little bit more.

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If you could raise your hand.

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Mr. Chen, you can unmute yourself and speak.

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Mr. Chen, please identify yourself with the record, first and last name.

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Goufeng Chen.

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Tell your full name, please.

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G-A-L-F-E-N-G, and last name, C-H-E-N.

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We're in front of the tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Please proceed.

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Good morning, Mr. Chen. Have you heard my testimony so far?

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Yes.

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Could you explain to the board the setup of 3101 and how that relates to 3103 and the current use of each of those properties?

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uh there is my doctor office there when i bought this property and then there is my um

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unit tennis living there also yeah so that's what i was saying is you have uh two units

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rented there you have two rental licenses for 3101 and one person for 3103 yeah so

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3103 that rental license is not in question that that's you've had that's been in existence since

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2008 um but because you tried to convert the the doctor's office to a real estate office

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the refusal now calls into question um both the uh the use of the commercial space and the two

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rental units is that correct yes yes okay uh i don't have much more to add except perhaps when

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to meet with the RCO I could send a more thorough letter to the board explaining everything along

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with what we're hopeful will be the RCO's approval on this or any question you want you want to ask

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your client if he adopts your testimony yes uh Mr. Chen do you adopt my testimony as if it was your

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own yes do you have anything else you'd like to add hey Joe can you show the picture around the

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buildings everything is true um yeah i can you want me to show some of the pictures that you sent

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yeah for the whole buildings oh so we have examples of other corner properties uh right

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around that that have commercial spaces that are set up similar to ours but i don't think that's

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necessarily. Thank you. Any questions from the board? No. No. No. It'll be a resumption,

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but I'll ask, does anyone else like to testify?

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There are no hands at this time, Chair. Planning Commission. Thank you, Chair DeChico. Ian

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Hegarty for the Philadelphia City Planning Commission. The comprehensive plan recommends

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no change to the existing single family at this location. However, the variance recognizes

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a documented non-conforming use, and so the City Planning Commission has no opposition.

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We recommend that the Board grant the variance.

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Thank you. Tanya, do we have a date? April 28th at 9.30.

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April 28th at 9.30. Okay. MI 2020-001-317-3101 Cotman Avenue. This hearing will be resumed on April the 28th at 9.30 a.m., at which time the board will consider any feedback related to the RCO's position.

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Thank you, board.

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Thank you.

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Have a nice day.

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Thank you.

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You too.

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Calendar number 2790-4515 East Thompson Street.

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Mr. Robert Hunter or Kyrie Hunter available.

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There are no heads at this time, Chair.

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Okay, MI 2020 does 0027904515 East Thompson Street. My understanding, Sharon, there are no

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exhibits, correct? No exhibits and it is the first listing. All right, well I'm gonna, I think we're

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gonna move things along a little bit differently. So this case will be continued, must be heard.

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okay we are on nine calendar number 1651 6130 west past yonk avenue

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steve pollock is the attorney i think

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mr pollock you've been promoted to panelist you can speak

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Mr. Pollack, you've been promoted to panelists. You can speak.

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I think I raised my hand.

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I can hear you. Mr. Pollack, put your name and address on the record, and then I'll swear you in.

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