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ZBA Hearing - February 24, 2026

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 24, 20262h 41m

Thank you.

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hello hello hello hello we hear you mike okay all right okay good we ready good morning everyone my

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name is bill bergman and i will be chairing this meeting of the philadelphia zoning board of

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adjustment with me is our board vice chair tenetta graham president's chairman our board secretary

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charlotte l gaston present mr chairman board member michael johns present mr chairman board

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member ty win she's here i see her she should be here very shortly and our board member ryan mcadams

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present mr chairman also here is our board attorney hillary emerson our zoning board

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director in haggerty and our board administrator lakeisha dandy recording of the hearing will be

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posted on the zba website by participating you consent to be recorded this is an in-person

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meeting with remote capabilities whether remote or in person if you're called to speak you must

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state and spell your name and then wait to be sworn in once you've been sworn in please state

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your name each time before beginning your testimony any person may enter their appearance

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to become an interested party you can identify the case property address on your zoom webinar

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you can see a staff member or you can call the zba appearance line by the close of business tomorrow

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call 267-270-5548 leave a message that includes your email address and the address

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the property of the appeal case the following guidance sources are remote attendees when

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directed you must raise your virtual hand in order to be recognized to speak if you're called

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to testify you'll be prompted to join as a panelist please accept the request and turn on your camera

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third the webinar q a is for questions about the hearing do not comment on cases in the q a

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and fourth if you are participating by phone press star nine to raise your hand

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and star six to unmute for our in-person attendees please refrain from talking eating or drinking

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during the hearings verbal and physical aggression will not be tolerated restrooms are across from

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the elevators a water fountain is just outside the room to the right when speaking on the record you

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must speak directly into the microphone in order to be heard by all attendees and the court reporter

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in the event of an emergency please follow the directions given over the public address system

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or by the staff the main exit is through the double doors at the rear of the room

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the nearest stairwell is to the left outside the doors in case of an evacuation the rally point is

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love park directly across archery please remain here so we can account for you um

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so just a little uh uh point of interest um we have several cases today and some of them are

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going to be cases that are just a little bit longer um what we're going to do is we're going

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to try to hold cases about 20 minutes or so and then we're going to have resumptive hearings uh

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We're going to do everything we can to move through as quick as we can.

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So let's start out by looking at our schedule.

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And let's first look at number five.

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And the Spanish interpreter is here.

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Thank you.

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Yep.

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Number five, Spanish interpreter first, please.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair. This is Jason Hand. I will be your calls for this session. Mr. Aubain is coming back in as a panelist.

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Good morning. My name is Stephen Aubain. My interpret ID is YM288. My last name is spelled A-U-B-A-I-N.

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Good morning, Stephen. Do you swear or affirm that you will interpret accurately, completely and partially from English to Spanish and from Spanish to English to the best of your ability?

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to you yes idea okay could you please call let's see here number

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number five was am i oh so it's 4707 to 11 edmund street angelica perez garcia is the owner

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Así que la 4707-11-M Street, si Angélica Pérez García pudiera entrar a la llamada o levantar la mano.

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So, the 4707-11-M-S-Tree, if you have a 4707-11-M-S-Tree,

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do we see anyone

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mr chair i do not see anyone answering to that name in the virtual audience this morning

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Okay, call one more interpreter, please call one more time for Angélica Pérez García,

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por favor, se puede levantar la mano o entrar en la llamada, por favor.

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Okay, so.

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Okay, so interpreter, could you please state MI 2025?

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Así que el MI 2025 000438 4707211 Edmond Street

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El caso es continuado para mayo 19 a las 9 y media de la mañana y se tiene que escuchar ese caso.

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Muchas gracias. Interpreter, por favor, permanece.

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Sí, voy a estar en el camino.

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number two and my 2024 0 0 5 6 2 4 just do the address for me 2068 east and street

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elliot perez barrios is is the complainant as the appellant así que 2068 east and street

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este y ellie perez si puede levantar la mano

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they'll come back in as a panelist now

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good morning good morning um could we have the name of the inter of the appellant please

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si que si nos pueden proveer el nombre del apelante por favor si habla con elliot perez

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so it's elliot perez all right and could you please say to him do you swear or affirm to

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tell the truth usted juri afirma decir la verdad the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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toda la verdad y nada más que la verdad si yes so this is a result of hearing así que esto es

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una audiencia de resoluciones and this is what we're going to do today the applicant will present

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plans and supplemental documents then they'll be questions from the board and testimony from the

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public and a recommendation from planning so would the applicant please start his presentation and and

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show us updated plans and supplemental documents so that's what we are going to do today is that

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the applicant will present his plans and he will present his supplemental documents and

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there will be questions from the board, there will be testimonials from the public and other

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recommendations from the planning department. If the applicant can please start your presentation

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y enseñarnos sus planos actualizados y documentos suplementales sí pues mira aquí te voy a enseñar

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el plano del primer piso este hubo un error la primera vez pero ya lo corregimos permítame

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so i'm gonna show you the plans for the first floor there was an error the first time and now

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it's corrected okay why don't you say what the air why don't you tell us that

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y empieza con cuál fue el error el error fue que donde está la cocina con el comedor hay una puerta

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ahí y ya se sacó la puerta se eliminó y aquí estaba enseñando donde el dining room que era

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a living room so the error was that there used to be a door where it was the kitchen connecting to

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the dining area and that door was eliminated and then the um and dining uh or the living

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room area was changed into the dining room um how about the second floor is there any changes there

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um how about the second floor is there any changes there y el segundo piso ha habido un cambio ahí

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no todo igual nada no no everything's the same and the basement please y el sótano por favor

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so the basement is just space for storage okay um questions from the board

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so this is an existing condition correct así que esto es son condiciones existentes

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y hay este otros duplex en la cuadra sí creo que creo que la esquina de la calle

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entry and frankfurt yes i think in the corner of the street entry and amford there are thank you

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other than other than that one based on what i see on google earth it looks like there are no

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other duplexes on the block así que basado en lo que yo estoy viendo en google earth no veo que

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este hayan otro duplexes en el en la cuadra de más de los que mencionó aportar entre yo solamente

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mencioné la esquina por como te digo no sé pero también que fue lo que sucedió en la reunión del

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rseo de la comunidad de la comunidad fíjate por la gente fueron y participaron y votaron

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al favor mío gracias a dios so the people came and participated in my favorite thing

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car and there is also a letter from the council members escuela y este también hay una carta de

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este uno de los miembros de la junta de la escuela si hay otras preguntas de la junta

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y preguntas y preguntas o comentarios de la abogada de el gobierno que es

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time, Mr. Chair. Questions or comments from the virtual audience or the present audience?

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Pregunta o comentario de la audiencia virtual o la audiencia presente?

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I do not see any answer, Mr. Chair. Planing Commission. Comité de Planeo.

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Madison Matera, M-A-D-I-S-O-N, M-A-T-E-R-A, Planing Commission Staff.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes. Please proceed.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the RSA 5 residential single-family zoning at this location.

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Así que el plan comprensivo recomienda que no haya cambio al RSA 5 de residencial unifamiliar para la zona en esta ubicación.

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The city rezoned this neighborhood in 2017 in a community supported map change.

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Y la ciudad rezonificó esta urbanización en 2017 con un cambio de mapa apoyado por la comunidad.

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Y esta propiedad se ve que se ha estado utilizando como un lugar o hospedaje de dos familias desde por lo menos el 2014.

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Sorry, the zoning board grant the proposed request to legalize a second drawing unit.

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Así que el Comité de Planeo de la Ciudad recomienda que la Junta de Zonificación le dé las variancias propuestas y legalizar la segunda unidad de vivienda.

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mi2024-005-624-2068 east and street i vote yes

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can we can we can we include the proviso for a co and no basement living yeah we we can i think

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they all get them but yeah so proviso um certificate of occupancy to be obtained

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and ck and i'm sorry can you please repeat that last statement

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is the interpreter requesting clarification yes please i couldn't hear the last statement

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oh i'm sorry so so i'll start from the beginning am i 20

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So I'll start from the beginning. MI 2024-005624, 2068 East Ann Street, I vote yes with proviso, certificate of occupancy to be obtained.

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y voto que sí con improviso de certificado de ocupanza que tenga que obtener michael

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johnson my vote is yes with proviso michael johnson sí con provisos cheryl gaston my

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vote is yes with proviso cheryl gaston votos y comprovisos tenetta graham my vote is yes

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with proviso the night a grand votos y compromisos brian mcadams my vote is yes with proviso brian

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mcdams vota si con unas condiciones thank you sir you have your vote and interpreter thank you again

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right thank you do you require further interpretation that was that we had two

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and you handled both for us thank you all right thank you for using the service interpreter

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disconnecting sure so number three mi 2024 006 693 7200 summers road joseph consul is the attorney

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this is a resumptive hearing

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they will be coming back in as a panel of shortlands the chair

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good morning

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morning mr consul could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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yes it's joseph consul it's j-o-s joe you're a little low last name consul c-o-n-s-o-l-e

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right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do so this is a resumptive hearing um you're going to present amended refusal and any

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supplemental information there'll be questions from the board from the public and also the

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planning commission okay um why don't you start all right uh let me share and why don't you give

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us a little idea where you where you were with this and where we stand yeah yeah okay

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all right so joe console here for true family partnership llc uh mr hi true uh is on the call

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with me today to the extent he needs to adopt my testimony and testify so we were here in October

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we presented plans at that time that included parking spaces and a reduction in the number

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of units compared to what we had originally filed so while we had support for reducing the

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number of units from three to two and support for the parking on this lot, we needed to get

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streets approval and we needed to submit our proviso plans and get an amended refusal. So

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we left, produced what we needed to, went back and forth with the streets department, and I'll

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scan through their letter in a second, just to make sure that all the T's were dotted and I's

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are crossed. And so we're back with the two unit plan with the parking. So this is an amended

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refusal. It does include the parking. However, it still lists three dwelling units. I'll show you

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my proviso forms in a second. You'll see that we only asked for two. So we're anticipating and

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And obviously fine with the proviso to limit this to two dwelling units.

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But this amended refusal from the end of January does contain the parking space requests.

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So our streets approval letter, nothing further.

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Like I said, we went back and forth regarding turning radius studies and a couple other things.

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But ultimately, there's no conditions to the streets department approval.

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Parking in this behind this building or proposed building should be fairly straightforward.

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Here's the proviso plans that we submitted noting the parking spaces as well as the reduction in the dwelling units from three to two.

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Here are the plans that were submitted with the proviso forms.

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It's two bi-level units. This is the first unit looking at the lowest level.

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this is the first unit looking at the lowest level again I can stop and go

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back to any of these this is the surface level with the parking spaces behind the

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property that about the existing alleyway and unit 2 starts on the second

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floor both units are three bedrooms unit two goes on to the third floor

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these are the zoning plans with the turning radius analysis that we submitted

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it was approved by the streets department these plans were done in november

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some photos

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pictures showing the posters but also kind of giving you an idea of what the lot sort

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of looks like. It's a large corner lot. It's remained undeveloped, was a multifamily property

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but, you know, we're talking decades ago and it's sat vacant.

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You're looking at the alleyway that has a curb cut

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and will provide the two parking spaces.

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And then there's our tax clearance certificate.

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So we believe this is a good project.

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provides two units in a building I show one thing

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the rendering we have support from from the community they wanted the spot developed they

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didn't want three units we had two meetings with them ultimately getting their approval

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and coming before you guys now twice.

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So with that, we're taking a blighted vacant lot

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and providing the community with two units.

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So I'll call my client, Mr. True, to adopt my testimony

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and help me answer any questions the board might have.

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What's your client's name?

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H-A-I, last name T-R-I-E-U.

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They put promoted to panelists.

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I'm back in short.

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Hello.

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Hi, could you please state your name as spelled for this phonographer?

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Hi, true.

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H-A-I, last name T-R-I-E-U.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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we'll see you counsel uh good morning hi did you hear my testimony just now regarding uh your

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revised submission for 7200 summers i did do you adopt what i said as your own i do okay um that

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that's it leave them open to any questions from the board questions from the board

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is the existing structure getting torn down there's nothing there it's a just i'll take it

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it's a lot just empty lot got it okay yeah i think that the comments some of the comments

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that were made that last um hearing were about the context and the fact that it doesn't go with a

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sort of the rest of the character of the of the block face i know that was a concern um

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and then the rather the rendering that was prepared is wrong you know it doesn't show

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the actual what the what the houses look like next door to it

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so it's it's a three-story the rest are two um

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and some of them have these sort of a frames in the front and they have these sort of

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yeah it's like it's not the block right so so I don't know whether that matters to anybody at

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this point but there seems to be support that was part of where my comment came from because the

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house next to it has the a-frame right at least the a-frame the pent uh pent roof in the front

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