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ZBA Hearing - September 29, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 29, 20205h 55m

you there was a community meeting there's posters on the property and

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again you know both the client and the architect were both at that meeting and

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again a traffic impact study was and we did go back and forth and I said to

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Tanetta we would try and reconfigure the site but given the discussion with the

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water department that she was aware of because she knows this neighborhood

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extremely well, we weren't able to move that sewer line. So any redesign is not feasible

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because of the water department needs a 30-foot easement. And again, we've provided that. We've

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provided the correspondence from the water department. There's no real ability to redesign

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the site at all given that. So we're really just here to discuss, can we provide accessory

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off-street parking to help limit additional congestion caused by a by-right site? So

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that's kind of where we are. And I think it might be helpful to have Keith, the owner,

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and our architect who were actually at the meeting because again like i said i wasn't there at the

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meeting but i do know that one was thank you understood let's get your client on please

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keith you've been allowed to speak please unmute yourself and wait to be sworn in

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and uh keith would you please spell your first and last name

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Keith, you're unmuted, you can speak.

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there's must be some technical difficulties Rachel's trying to okay all right if why don't

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we go to the architect while we're at it because the architect according to your testimony Ms.

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pritz attended the meeting yes ian smith should be on the line

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i'm going to try and have um keith call in tanya so that because i guess it's not sure

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i gotta find the number ian you've been allowed to speak you can unmute yourself and wait to be

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sworn in good morning mr smith please identify yourself with the record good morning my name is

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ian smith uh my um my address is 322 east thompson well 340 west duval street um 19144

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and i'm the architect for uh this project do you swear and firm to tell the truth the whole truth

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and nothing but the truth i do thank you please proceed okay um the the meeting that uh i was

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present at back in 2019 did occur. I don't remember the exact title, but I would presume that

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based on how RCO meetings go, this would be, you know, our first RCO meeting sort of reviewing the

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project and its scope, identifying the refusals, which was the parking in the rear of the lot and

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the access from the main street, all other items being compliant with the zoning code.

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I think this project has been seen in front of the Strawberry Mansion CDC multiple times

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with different owners, me being the architect for it, and there's been some, you know, history

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of having concerns outside of what the refusals are presented.

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I think it has been a challenge with regard to coming to terms with the Strawberry Mansion

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CDC, and, you know, we've done everything within our power, I think, as far as a designer

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architect outside of actually just reducing the density but the density is

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approved you know based on what I mean what we've done prior and I believe

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there's some zoning approvals with regard to that and the the only conflict

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is the idea of providing parking which in this particular case seems unusual

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and but at the same time this has been the the main sticking point with regard

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to the strawberry mansion cdc

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thank you any board members have any questions for the architect

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no no anyone else going to testify in this

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i think keith is calling in if the board thinks it's relevant to hear his

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testimony i'd like yeah i think so because there's been some

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comments or statements made that there was no meeting and i i'm a little

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there was no meeting and i i'm a little bit confused on that yeah he said he's on tanya

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confused on that yeah he said

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he called in so um the last four of his or last three of his phone number are uh 8698

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hello

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good morning sir please spell your first and last name for the record

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sure k-e-i-t-h last name aliats a-l-l-i-o-t-t-s and you swear to firm to tell the truth the

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whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Please proceed. You know, just to add on to what

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Rachel and Ian, my architect, has said, we had a meeting with the community back in 2019. I don't

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have the date in front of me. I believe it was sometime in August, September area, roughly a year

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ago. At that time, the community seemed to be focused heavily on the density. I bought the

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project fully approved by Wright for the 17 units. As Rachel said a few times, I'm just going in for

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the parking. I'm familiar with the location, familiar with, you know, neighbors and people

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who live in the area. There seems to be a parking issue there, as there is throughout a lot of the

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City. And we had reached out to Tanetta. I had a different attorney, Michael Phillips, who

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represented me at that meeting at that time. I've since changed attorneys. We've reached out to

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Tanetta, or I've asked Rachel to reach out several times regarding the letter. We've not been able

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to receive it. I sent Tanetta three emails within the last 10 days following up on the letter,

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knowing we have this um you know meeting this morning or hearing um i didn't get a response

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um and again based on the meeting we had and the communities had a few meetings i believe i

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shouldn't say that i i'm told the communities had a few meetings prior to my meeting with the

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previous owner i purchased it from um so that the community is very familiar uh with the project

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i had said to rachel i'm not certain anything productive will come out of another community

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meeting um i went in there with good faith you know um tried to you know appease them and i want

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to do some some low-income units for the community so people in the community can live in the in the

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building um but they seem to not even really want to talk about parking it was all about density

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and that's when rachel explained this morning i did go back spent thousands of dollars with it

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with architects and everyone else to try to figure out if we can do a redesign there based on the

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easement that's there the sewer easement it's pretty much impossible to change the layout of

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that building and how it how it was designed um i'd spoken to rachel again multiple times regarding

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this um and based on the community's um feeling of of the density was more than what they were

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happy with um we didn't really spend much time at the meeting on parking because i tried to explain

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to them that i bought it approved it's a buy right job and i think at the time you know i again to

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show good faith i'd said to the community you know what kind of density would you guys be looking for

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here and if my memory is correct i was told about five units which obviously is not based on what

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i purchased for the property it wouldn't be economically viable the project um so that's

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kind of where we're at at that point i made the suggestion when rachel got on board let's let's

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go to the zba because um as i said i didn't think meeting with the community uh but he would be

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productive but keith didn't i say to you that we needed to try and reach out again to the community

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after we went did some research with the water department and with Ian and with another architect

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and we did reach out multiple times we submitted a traffic study and we still were not able to

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you know get anywhere yeah and I guess and again from my perspective and this has now been a year

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as Rachel had just said we've reached out to community countless times we don't even get

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responses from them so at this point you know not to sound selfish but I feel we've acted in good

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faith, I can't wait around for another six, nine, 12 months for someone to respond to an email or

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schedule an appointment or a meeting of any kind. So that's kind of where we're at and why we're

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on the call today. I just want to, again, for clarification on my end, to be clear,

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the project as a buy rate was allowed for how many units? 17. I bought it with, I purchased it

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in July of 2019 sorry to interrupt you with those approvals in place okay and

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with those approvals in place okay and the only real issue is parking is parking okay

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the only real issue

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to provide 13 parking spaces on this lot um and can i can i tell you guys you guys talking about

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meetings there was never an official rco community meeting for this project you guys

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miss graham what is it you keep saying and there was not an official meeting

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was there a meeting there was a meeting with me and my development committee there was not in the

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meeting where you have to notify the residents of the area right so why wasn't why wasn't that done

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because my understanding was that initial meeting the architect we would we did not appreciate we

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did not agree with the design of the building and the architect said okay i will go back to

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the drawing board and we asked for a traffic study because that's one of our primary concerns is that

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the uh the building is at the end of a bridge so coming over the bridge would make parking kind of

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dangerous for that intersection so that's why the community asked for a traffic study that was it

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that i mean not the community that that development committee it was then supposed to be brought back

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to us with the new design um and the schedule uh uh the zoning here so that we can go follow the

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RCO process. This does not have the full RCO process. Were you made aware of the traffic

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study? I can't say that I have been because, you know, it's COVID. We've got a lot of things

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going on. Ms. Graham, Ms. Graham, Ms. Graham, Ms. Graham, Ms. Graham, Ms. Graham, with all

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due respect, I asked a question. All right. And just give it an answer. Yes or no. That's

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i'm going to ask please do not unmute yourself to speak unless directed by the chair thank you

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you can speak now okay are you aware of the traffic study were you made aware of the traffic

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study i did not read a traffic study i'm gonna pull up the email i'm not saying you didn't send

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i said i didn't read a traffic study oh but it was sent to you you have a choice to read it or not

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read it okay that's fine but then they were supposed to send also a new design a design of

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the building all the information all right here okay here's here we go here's the deal okay uh

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we're going to hold this until next wednesday's executive session

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okay one week from tomorrow we're having an executive session correspondence between the

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applicant applicant's attorney and the strawberry mansion folks whatever you guys need to do

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between now and then get it done we will vote on this next wednesday morning mr chair i have a

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question uh miss prisker when did you send the traffic study i'm going to share my screen so

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that you can see um when i sent the traffic study which was march 11th and then i followed up on it

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with her I called Tanetta I've worked with Tanetta on a number of projects so I you know have

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luckily been able to reach her many times and we've worked together on a number of things so

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just like all those other projects I specifically understood the concerns here spent an hour on the

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phone or 30 minutes on the phone with her and made sure that she got the traffic study and even made

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sure that the traffic study was done because it's a little atypical on a site this small

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So it was sent to her on March 11th, and I followed up, and she said that she would look at it.

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I don't know that she got a chance or didn't get a chance, but it was sent back in March.

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You've had months and months and months, and I've sent emails in May and June and July, and Keith sent several in the last 10 days.

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So, again, it's not for lack of wanting to cooperate.

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It's you can only do so much, and we're all dealing with COVID and things of that nature.

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We're just trying to do our best to move this forward.

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And we do think it would be more detrimental to have a site with 17 by right units with not one stitch of parking on this very important block.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Carol, I've lost my list of the hearings this morning.

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So would you please call, you know, read the case.

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Chair, I'm sorry, but there is other people who have their hands up, if you wish.

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or it's your call something new and different if it's not new and different we're going to move on

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i'm going to have francis you can be sworn in hi i'm here good morning sir please spell your

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first and last name for this record my name is francis f-r-a-n-c-i-s magobot m-a-n-g-u-b-a-t

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Your address?

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It's 1444 North Myrtlewood Street, Philadelphia, PA, 19121.

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uh is that in close proximity to this uh where this uh to this application yes it's about three

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Is that in close proximity to this application?

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blocks okay please proceed so uh on my block there's about 17 new construction homes all

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without parking and i'd say it's a mess there's uh you know people that are parking on the sidewalk

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people that are parking in vacant lots people bumping each other's cars and what i would say

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on 33rd street is immediately north of 1501 north 33rd there's 40 units approved by right i don't

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know if there's parking or not so what i would say i mean this neighborhood absolutely needs

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more parking as it's just becoming a mess having all these homes without parking and i would think

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that it logically makes sense to take one street spot away to provide parking for 17 other people

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okay thank you for your testimony anyone else here we have strawberry mansion you can unmute yourself

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hello morning please identify yourself with a record bonita cumming strawberry mansion

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community concern i just wanted to add that um we're in a firm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth i do please proceed it may be safer to do it by right like the type of

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traffic jam and blind spots that is a part of this present design and already right now we're

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experiencing bottlenecks and that particularly come across that bridge right in that location

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so the and then the changing back and forth of people we were dealing with ian smith was no

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longer the architect and i'm not sure when rachel became the attorney so some of the confusion may

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be and that this building has changed hands a couple of times and different people may have

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been communicating back and forth so you don't really know who you're dealing with. But I do

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think that one week is really not enough time and that that site is very dangerous for the

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community. It's not like, you know, parking is going to be made easy. That's going to make a

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major congestion in that space. That's going to cause people coming home from Center City

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um to be really held up uh depending on the times of day people pulling in and out and even with

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parking uh depending on how many people are visiting people you're still going to get on

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street you know on street parking so so i would say that it's it's a better buy right project

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than it would be to put a parking lot where people would be coming off of that property

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into the street causing accidents and maybe even so it's your testimony that the buy right

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which would provide no parking is better than providing well it's safer I would say it's safer

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well they did a traffic study so I don't I mean that that's debatable okay I got we heard you

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thank you I have um none of the affected RVCOs were uh I muted you for a reason thank you

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Sir, Chair, we have Max. Max, you're going to mute yourself and speak.

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Thank you. My name is Max Karasik.

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First name, spell your last name, please.

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K-A-R-A-S-I-C-K.

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You swear to firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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And your address, sir?

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1510 North Hollywood Street, Philadelphia, 19121.

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Good proceed.

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Thank you.

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so i live a few blocks away from this development um parking in the neighborhood is obviously a

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concern of everyone um and i think this plan adequately addresses um the needs of the

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community i mean to provide parking versus no parking it seems like a no-brainer and the traffic

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study shows that it is safe um so that addresses that concern so i would just like to voice my

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support of this thank you thank you we have one share we have one more andrew you can unmute

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yourself and wait mr herman mr herman please spell your first and last name and give us your address

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Andrew you can unmute yourself

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can you hear me yes uh a-n-d-r-e-w-h-e-r-m-a-n and I live at 1533 north 33rd

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which is on this block where and from to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes thank you please proceed um so i live probably like maybe 10 10 houses down from this lot

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um i've experienced many issues with parking on this block already

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Um, I've experienced many issues with parking on this block already.

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Uh, currently most residents of my building and the neighboring buildings park double

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wide on the sidewalk.

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So in many cases or many instances, there's not a five foot pedestrian walkway down the

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