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ZBA Hearing - August 9, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 9, 20235h 36m

Okay, Chair, we have 36 attendees and counting, so we can proceed as you wish.

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Thank you.

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I'm ready to go.

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Good morning, my name is Bill Bergman and I will be chairing this morning's ZBA hearings.

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With me is our Vice Chair, Ishmael Shaheed.

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Present, Mr. Chair.

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Our Board Member, Thomas Holliman.

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Present, Mr. Chair.

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And our Board Member, James Snell.

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Present, Chair.

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Also present is Hillary Emerson, our attorney, and also our executive director, Tanya Sunkett.

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Here's our virtual format.

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Be advised the proceedings are being recorded.

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Video will be available by contacting tanyasunkett at phil.gov.

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For the benefit of our court stenographer, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone and you wish to testify, press star nine to raise your hand

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and star six to unmute. To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548. Leave your email

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and the address of the property in question. And lastly, the question and answer box on the screen

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is not for comments or testimony. All comments should be directed to our executive director,

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Tanya Sunken. Let's look at today's list, this morning's list for continuances.

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Number one, MI 2023-001-026-4353 Paul Street. The case is continued. Number two, MI 2022-007-343-6020

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Lansdale Avenue. The case is continued. And number 11, MI 2023-001-044-2853 North Bailey Street.

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That case is continued. Does anyone have any comments relative to the three cases I just

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continued? Good morning, Mr. Chair. This is Jason Hand. I will be co-hosting today. I have one hand

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raised from

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Young I've allowed

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them to speak

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Hi could you state your name please

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and spell for the court reporter

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Hello

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Always Young are you present

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Excuse me, Chair. It appears that she had two devices that she's logged into. We'll try the second one if you like.

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Okay.

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You got it.

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Hello?

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Hi. Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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My name is Eloise Young, E-L-O-I-S-E, last name Young, Y-O-U-N-G.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Which of those three cases are you interested in?

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60-20 Lansdowne Avenue.

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Let's see here.

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Okay, so that case has been continued.

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we need more time for community feedback. This is the second time it's been continued.

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Okay. As soon as we get the community feedback, we will make sure we get this on, okay?

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I'm from the RCO. I'm confused about needing community feedback.

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Excuse me, Mr. Chair. This is Hillary. I'm sorry. This was handled. This is handled. It's going to be continued.

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Thank you. Are there any other requests for continuance?

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Chair, there is a hand raised from a number ending in 3552. I will allow them to speak at this time.

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Hi, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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Yes, this is Adrienne Fernandez of Swamp Pool Neighborhood Association, RCO.

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Could you spell your name for the court reporter, please?

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Yes, my last name is spelled S-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z.

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Yes, my last name is spelled S-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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What case are you calling about?

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I'm calling about 2712 North 16th Street, and I am requesting continuance because the applicant was listed as an expediter named Baditsa.

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and um the affected rcos received no email notice for the uh community meeting and also

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the rco coordinator did not comply with the code to consult with all affected rcos for the meeting

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also this property so so hold on a minute is allegheny west civic associates has a letter

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of support for that, right? I have no idea because I asked for documents and they were not sent at

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all. We have... Algeny West Civic Association has a support, has a letter of support for that

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project. So what we're going to do is we'll hear the case. We'll hear the case. And when I open it

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up to the public, you can come on. Okay. Mr. Chair, this is Hillary. Hold on. This is Mr. Chair.

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Sorry, this is Hillary. Mr. Chair. So this, this case does have an attorney. That's Darlene

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three i see her hand is raised um she will be presenting the case today okay do you want to

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bring her one right now i'm allowed to speak sir hi good morning could you state your name

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please and spell for the court reporter good morning commissioner darlene three

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r l e n e three t h r e a do you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but

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two things you turn your volume up just a little bit please yes yes okay proceed

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uh good morning commissioner i am handling this case on the expedited bedita cadelia it's my

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understanding all notices were sent i have the notice that was sent out and the proof of mailing

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there were 22 people at this meet a letter of support i know but i i think that's where i am

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And what I'm going to do is we're going to hear the case.

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Can I say one thing, though?

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Can I say one thing?

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The meeting that was held, we received no communication at all by email.

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She's speaking about what was mailed out by.

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OK, so you're going to have a chance.

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You can raise that.

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You can raise that when we call the case.

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We're going to go on with the case.

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Are there any other requests?

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Are there any other requests for continuances?

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uh mr chair i have michael bowman with the hand raised i've allowed them

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mr bowman please state your name for the court reporter

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morning mr bowman michael bowman please unmute and wait to be sworn in

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i'm ready all right mr bowman just state your name and

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please and spell for the court reporter good morning commissioner michael bowman

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m i uh the last name you spell b-o-w-m-a-n right do you swear for him to tell the truth

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth i do and you want a continuance for mi 2023

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3-0-0-0-9-9-0-8129 Germantown Avenue? That's correct. All right. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Approved. Are there any other requests for continuance?

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No further answers, Mr. Chair. Okay. Thank you. We're going to go to number six,

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MI-2022-001-992-4101 Germantown Avenue.

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There are no exhibits, third listing.

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No one appeared for the applicant at the prior listing.

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Case was continued, must be heard.

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Julio Garcia and the listed applicant is Charlie and Sookie Cho, listed owners.

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Mr. Chair I have Yvonne Haskins with her hand raised okay allow them to speak

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Ms. Haskins yes good morning good morning could you state your name please and spell for the

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court reporter. Yvonne Boone, Haskins, H-A-S-K-I-N-S. Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth?

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H-A-S-K-I-N-S.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Are you involved in 4101 Germantown Avenue?

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I'm involved in, no, sir.

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I'm calling only because I have a number of people who are in the community to make sure that our case has been continuing.

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And I can't really remember that it's a three-story.

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Ms. Haskins, you're breaking up.

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Are you involved in this case here, 4101 Germantown Avenue?

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Can you hear me now?

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Army?

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Can you hear me now?

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I hear you now, but what I'm saying, are you involved in this case?

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Yes, sir.

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I am calling to sign out of a case that's scheduled.

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Ms. Haskins, I'm in the middle of hearing this 4101 Germantown Avenue.

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Mr. Chair, this is Hillary.

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Ms. Haskins, I did get your email.

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We will be announcing the continuances on the 3.30 list at 3.30.

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Oh, actually, that's what I wanted to make sure.

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Good.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone in the audience from 4101 Germantown Avenue?

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Sir, there are no hands.

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Thank you.

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So MI 2022-001-992, 4101 Germantown Avenue.

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This is the third listing.

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No exhibits.

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No one appeared the last time.

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I vote to dismiss.

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My vote is to dismiss.

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James Selma, my vote is to dismiss.

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Ishmael Shaheen, my vote is to dismiss.

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Thank you.

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We're going to go to our regular list now.

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I'm going to start at number 7, MI 2023, 000818773 Shawman Avenue.

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Ernest Pertikin is the owner applicant.

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It's a pro se.

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There was an RCO meeting held on 3-8-23.

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We do not have the letters of yet,

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but there's a petition of support signed by 21 neighbors,

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along with five other letters of support.

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Mr. Pertikin.

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Mr. Peterkin will be rejoining as a panelist.

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Hold on a second.

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Good morning, sir.

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Mr. Peterkin, you have to unmute yourself, please.

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all right good morning good morning could you state your name and spell please for the court

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reporter my name is ernest peterkin my name is spelled e-r-n-e-s-t my last name is p-e-t-e-r-k-i-n

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do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do could you turn your video in please yes sir

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Thank you. Our vice chair has a few questions for you, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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Good morning, sir. Have you emailed in all the required documents that are needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, sir.

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Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen.

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All right.

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okay all right you start mr chair can you read the refusal into the record please

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sure i will this application is for the legalization of the fence size and location

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as shown in plan any fence located nearer to the lot line than the required building setback or

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the actual distance of the building from the lot line whichever is greater shall not be more than

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four feet in height and no more than 50% opaque, whereas the plan shows six feet in height and

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almost 100% opaque. Proceed, sir. Thank you, sir. Good morning, Commissioner. Good morning,

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members of the board. My name is Ernest Peterkin. I'm the owner of 773 Shawmont Avenue. Thank you

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for hearing my case. I'm here today seeking a variance for my property that would allow my

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front fence to be six foot tall and almost 90% opaque. My lot is oddly shaped similar to a

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triangle with the front of the home facing the point. Here I have an image from 1909. Here you

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can see the shape of the lot and I'm going to scroll down and I'll actually show some plans

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for the fence so you can see the shape of the lot here. Due to the shape of the lot and the house

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setback, a large portion of the usable outdoor space is found in the front of the

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a large portion of the usable outdoor space is found in the front of the property.

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I understand that zoning laws are made for the safety of the public.

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Traffic safety is of utmost concern for street-side fences.

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I'm prepared to demonstrate to the board that not only does my fence enhance the corner,

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but more importantly, it does not negatively affect traffic safety.

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Before I move forward, however, I have to acknowledge one of the many mistakes I've made

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along the way. This fence was constructed without first applying for a zoning permit.

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I'm well-versed in interior home remodeling, but my experience has not included extensive

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exterior work such as larger fences. For the construction of this fence, I sought help from

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a subcontractor to aid me. I was assured at the time that I didn't need a permit.

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Perhaps my subcontractor was simply mistaken, or perhaps he misunderstood the circumstances.

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Regardless, the fault does lie with me.

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My fence construction was not a deliberate act of zoning disregard.

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It was a mistake.

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At the time, I thought I was taking all of the right steps.

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I even hired the city to perform a survey of my property for the fence prior to the construction.

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uh this here is the order for the survey that went through the city of philadelphia

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for them to come out and survey the property prior to constructing the fence

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this process has been quite a learning experience especially in dealing with my neighbors the vast

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majority of which have shown a great deal of support for my fence but i'll speak more about

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that momentarily the first thing that i would like to bring your attention to i'm scrolling to it now

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Okay, first thing I would like to bring your attention to is the traffic impact analysis.

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Hold on one second.

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This impact analysis was executed by the civil engineer Timothy P. Reilly of DJS Associates.

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If you'd allow, I'd like to read a portion of the report.

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All right.

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All right.

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