COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - - - Room 400, City Hall Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:15 a.m. - - - PRESENT: COUNCIL PRESIDENT ANNA C. VERNA COUNCILWOMAN JANNIE BLACKWELL COUNCILMAN DARRELL L. CLARKE COUNCILMAN FRANK DiCICCO COUNCILMAN W. WILSON GOODE, JR. COUNCILMAN BILL GREEN COUNCILMAN WILLIAM GREENLEE COUNCILMAN CURTIS JONES, JR. COUNCILMAN JACK KELLY COUNCILMAN JAMES F. KENNEY COUNCILWOMAN MARIA QUINONES-SANCHEZ COUNCILWOMAN DONNA REED MILLER COUNCILWOMAN BLONDELL REYNOLDS BROWN COUNCILWOMAN MARIAN B. TASCO BILLS 100115, 100116, 100117, 100118, 100131 and 100141 - - - 2
Good morning, everyone. This is the continued public hearing of the Committee of the Whole. I would ask Mr. McPherson to please read the resolution and/or bills that we will be considering. MR. McPHERSON: Resolution 10 100141, providing for the approval by the Council of the City of Philadelphia of a Revised Five Year Financial Plan. Bill No. 100115, to adopt a Capital Program for the six Fiscal Years 2011 to 2016 inclusive. Bill No. 100116, to adopt the Fiscal 2011 Capital Budget. Bill No. 100117, adopting the Operating Budget for Fiscal Year 2011. And Bill No. 100118, amending The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Finance, Taxes and Collections," by adding a new Chapter 19-3600, entitled "Sugar-Sweetened Beverage Tax." And Bill No. 100131, amending 3 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Chapter 10-700 of The Philadelphia Code, entitled "Refuse and Littering," by providing for a sanitation fee. And today we're taking testimony on Bill No. 100117.
Thank you. And our first witness? MR. McPHERSON: Is the Managing Director's Office. (Witnesses approached witness table.)
Yes. Please identify yourself for the record and proceed with your testimony.
Good morning. My name is Camille Barnett. I'm Managing Director for the City of Philadelphia and it's a pleasure to be here this morning with you, Council. Despite a number of fiscal 4 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. challenges, this Administration, working with the City Council, has accomplished much. While I know that Deputy Mayors and Commissioners and department heads will outline these achievements in their own testimony, I want to take this opportunity to thank them and you for your dedication to the City and to our residents. You'll recall that last year my office reorganized its budget to better reflect the Administration's structure of government. Rather than using eight divisions that applied to various aspects of government, we reduced the number of divisions to five to better reflect operational realities. One division is assigned to each of our Deputy Mayors and to the First Deputy Managing Director. In the last year, some of our accomplishments in our office are maintaining some very important programs for public safety, particularly the Youth Violence Reduction Partnership and also 5 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the Community Life Improvement Program, or CLIP. Despite the Great Recession, we have also expanded PhillyStat, which continuously improves our operations through performance management, and we've improved the services of our 3-1-1 Contact Center and initiated several other reforms with the help of the Private Sector Outreach Board. I'll talk a little bit more about these later in my testimony. 9 million and it maintains the same organizational approach that I've just described. Fiscal Year 2011's budget represents a net increase of 240,000, which is directly related to the expansion of the Clean Philly Program through expansion of activities for CLIP. This budget also contains several reductions, most notably the continuation of the reduction of 3-1-1's overnight shift. As part of the City's technology consolidation efforts, 6 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we've transferred 202,733 to the Department of Technology for personnel, contracts and materials, and these transfers are primarily in the Office of Emergency Management. The Office of the Deputy Mayor for Health and Opportunity composes a small portion of our budget. The proposed allocation for this division is 540,000, all of which is derived from the General Fund. This money supports the salaries of five staff members. Three of those positions are in the Department of Health or with the Department of Health and two are assigned to the Department of Parks and Recreation. These in Parks and Recreation operate independently of the Health Department, but we have put them in the Office of Health and Opportunity for simplicity's sake. 6 million. Five point six of this amount is derived from the General Fund, while 7 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. over seven million derives from various grant funds. The operating sections of this office that are funded through the Managing Director's Office budget include the Criminal Justice Coordinating Office, the Office of Emergency Management, the Police Advisory Commission and the Youth Violence Reduction Partnership. All of these programs, of course, have the primary focus of making the City a safer place. In support of economic recovery, the budget also contains funding to continue programs for the Office of Reintegration Services for Ex-Offenders, where ex-offenders are offered the opportunity to learn new job skills. The Youth Violence Reduction Partnership will continue their successful investment in Philadelphia's youth. The Office of Transportation and Utilities proposes a total allocation 8 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. 7 million. The grant funds here represents 440,000 of this total budget. The allocation also represents over a 500,000 increase, which again relates to the expansion of the CLIP program through the Clean Philly fee.
The Community Life Improvement Program continues to improve the appearance and image of the City of Philadelphia by educating residents about exterior property maintenance codes, enforcement of such codes and, when warranted, nuisance abatements. Compliance rates of property owners that receive exterior property maintenance violations, we're pleased to report, have continued to rise, and as more people are complying with our codes, this allows us to expand our operations geographically with limited resources. Although graffiti and vacant lot abatements have declined this year, we're finding new effective ways of addressing this neighborhood nuisance. One of the things 9 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we're particularly pleased with is our Blight Detection Camera Surveillance Initiative, which uses solar-powered, motion-sensitive mobile cameras that capture clear, crisp pictures of illegal activity, such as graffiti, vandalism and illegal dumping. These high-resolution cameras are able to clearly show a vehicle's license plate even in total darkness. Thus far, we've issued $300 12 tickets to illegal dumpers. 13 Another new venture for CLIP is 14 the partnership between the Philadelphia 15 Prison System and our Community Services 16 Program to use non-violent offenders to 17 assist with the cleaning of vacant lots through the City of Philadelphia. This partnership creates additional resources to assist with the removal of trash, debris and overgrowth of weeds on vacant lots. The Office of Sustainability composes the majority of the Economic Development Division of the Managing 10 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Director's Office budget. 5 million. Only 604,000 of these funds are within the General Fund, while a million nine are generated from grant revenues. Some of these grant funds are provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Specific projects for my budget include efforts to improve energy efficiency in municipal buildings, development of the energy management capacity, employee education and training aimed at reducing energy consumption, and the monitoring and reporting of the City's Greenworks Plan. Additional projects can also be found in other departments' budgets. The remainder of the Managing Director's budget is within the Administration Division. This division provides policy direction, efficiencies and ensures accountability for the delivery of services. Services in this portion of the budget include support for 11 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. mini city halls, the Office of Labor Standards, our administrative functions and, most notably, PhillyStat and 3-1-1. We also support various advisory boards in this portion of our budget. 9 million and includes 935,000 in grants revenue. The Council knows that on December 31st in 2008 we launched Philly311 in an effort to streamline and consolidate service requests into one contact center. While ultimately successful, as the Pew Foundation documented in their recent report, the system had some challenges and has made progress in its first year. By better training our agents and replacing those employees that did not meet expectations, we have reduced our wait time. By instituting an Interactive Voice Response system, callers may receive directory assistance or general information without having to 12 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. speak to an agent. Improvements in technology have allowed 3-1-1 and service departments to communicate more effectively and have improved service delivery to City residents as a whole. Now, though 3-1-1 has significantly improved, we still need additional improvements. This budget anticipates investing $500,000 in an implementation plan to determine what additional technology and telephone improvements are necessary to enhance our department's interface with work order systems and our callers' experience.
We are also actively working with the service departments to ensure communications and systems are working appropriately. PhillyStat was designed to provide accountability for performance. It accomplishes this by quantifying what good performance is for a department and regularly checking in to see if improvement projects are progressing. 13 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Data provides the evidence of how well the departments are doing. Accountability for performance through PhillyStat is not measured solely on a department-by-department basis. Larger strategic goals of the Administration that cross departmental jurisdictions are also covered, such as progress on the Greenworks sustainability plan, our work on minority, disabled and women-owned business contracts, risk management, summer programs for youth and other such topics. The Private Sector Outreach Board is a volunteer group consisting of corporate executives that have dedicated their time to the City and to our departments to help solve some of our most difficult problems. Chaired by Judee von Seldeneck, the Board has helped implement many of the projects defined by the reform teams that I mentioned in last year's hearings. These projects range from the implementation of a business 14 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. portal in the Department of Licenses and Inspections, to customer service training for 3-1-1 operators, to the implementation of a shared services model for human resources functions. The Private Sector Outreach Board has been a valuable resource, and I thank them for their time and experience. I specifically also want to thank Councilmen Kenney and Green for their leadership and guidance on the Private Sector Outreach Board. In a similar vein, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act Steering Committee, on which Councilman Jones participates, has been instrumental in guiding our investment choices. I'd like to take this opportunity to also briefly describe our minority, women and disabled business participation. The Managing Director's Office is committed to supporting this Administration's goal of percent 25 minority, woman and disabled-owned 15 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. businesses in participation in City contracting. The goal for Fiscal Year '11 for the Managing Director's Office is percent. 6 Before I conclude, I'd like to 7 touch on some of the potential service 8 reductions should the proposed revenue 9 enhancements fail. 3 million of reductions. 12 What this would mean for our office is 13 that not only would CLIP services not be 14 expanded, CLIP would actually be reduced. 15 The Anti-Graffiti Paint and Supply 16 Voucher Program would be eliminated, and 17 there would be a drastic reduction in the 18 purchase of supplies and equipment and 19 the distribution of free bags and gloves 20 for community clean-ups. Professional services contracts for the Youth Violence Reduction Partnership and our Town Watch program would also be reduced or eliminated. Third, the reduction in Police 16 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. overtime for the Youth Violence Reduction Program would also be eliminated. Roughly, 250,000 would be eliminated from our contracting services, and this 250,000 is a portion that we expect to dedicate to the reform efforts that I mentioned earlier. In addition, three staff positions would be eliminated in our Economic Development and our Health and Opportunity Divisions. 3 million. On a personal note, I would like to thank you for your support and dedication and ideas. It has been a pleasure working with you and an honor serving the people of Philadelphia. I'll be happy to answer any of your questions.
Thank you very much. You're requesting $295,000 in professional services for economic 17 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. development. Can you tell us how these funds will be used?
Yes. In the economic development professional services, we have several projects. The utility database management is $64,000. Greenworks coordination with PIDC is $70,000. Energy audits and consulting are $50,000, and consultants for Greenworks implementation, $111,000. All of our economic development professional services contracts are in support of our Greenworks Plan.
Thank you. You're requesting $2,527,000 for economic development in Fiscal 2011. Can someone explain how these funds will be used and the economic benefit the City will receive and how has that been reflected into the Proposed Five Year Plan?
I have with me John Farrell, who is our Assistant 18 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Managing Director, and he's the one who put the budget together, so he'll give you the preliminary answer and then I've asked Alan Greenberger to also come up and explain the impact on economic development.
Good morning, Madam President, members of Council. My name is John Farrell. The primary funding for the Office of Sustainability, which comprises the vast majority of the Economic Development Division of our budget, there are two staff positions in there for the Office of Sustainability. One runs the Solar Philadelphia Program and the other one is administrative support for the office, and the rest of the money is almost entirely composed of that Class 250, professional services, that the Managing Director just described. The other Class 200 money that's not 19 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. dedicated for that is for small administrative purposes. The biggest use, I believe, is Zipcar and for copier leases.
One of the things that we've done with the Office of Sustainability is to combine it with what was formerly known as the Municipal Energy Office, which was in the Managing Director's Office. So a lot of our energy conservation programs are funded now as a sustainability program, which falls under the broad category of economic development.
On of your testimony, you mention a $240,000 increase for the Clean Philly program. On your budget schedule for increases and decreases, you show an increase of $500,000 for this program. Which is it?
The 240,000 is a net figure. So the 500,000 is the amount that's increased in CLIP, but we have 20 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. decreased the budget by the amount that we've transferred for the IT consolidation, and so the net of those two basic actions is the 240,000 increase.
You indicate that you're transferring $202,000 to the Division of Technology. Can you tell us the number of people and their titles that are being transferred?
All of these are Assistant Managing Directors and they're all from the Office of Emergency Management. Do you want their names or do you just need their titles?
They're the folks who are doing technology in the Office of Emergency Management now and they would be transferred to the Division of Technology.
I'm sorry. How many did you say there were? 21 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
There's three people, Assistant Managing Directors, and there are several other small amounts for licenses and other kinds of technology-related contracts.
What are the Class 200 items that are being transferred?
There's a list of several that range from $500 to $13,000, and John can give you the detail of those, if you'd like.
Certainly. From Class 209, we're contributing from four different divisions. From Division 21, it's $13,000. From Division 40, it's $500. From Division 42, it's $4,500, and from Division 43, it's $5,000. In Class 216, Division is 21 contributing $2,000. Class 266 of Division 21 is $3,000. In Class 282 of Division 42 is $3,000.
Can you tell us what are the materials and 22 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. supplies that are being transferred?
Certainly. These are all from Class 427, which I believe is the Computer Equipment line. From Division 21, we have $2,115. Division 42 is $5,000, and Division 43 is --
When you talk about "divisions," I'm not too clear on that.
I apologize, Council President. Division is the 13 Administrative Division of the Managing 14 Director's Office. Division 40 is the 15 Economic Development Division. Division 16 42 is the Public Safety Division, and 17 Division 43 is the Transportation and 18 Utilities Division. 19
Thank 20 you. 21 At this time, the Chair recognizes Councilman Jones.
Thank you, Madam President. Good morning, Dr. Barnett. 23 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
First -- and we don't give out compliments real easy around here, but I want to thank you for your dedication and service over the last two years and to specifically note for the record that in the area of transparency and efficiencies and clear direction, you provided a guiding light from your office. When we look at PhillyStat, and a lot of members don't admit that we do, but we learn from those sessions that you do, and I can clearly tell you that the first budget testimonies by your department heads and Commissioners, there was a stark improvement in the second year. They were ready for us, and that was good. Also, the increase in proficiency and technology in 3-1-1 was -- and it's growing pains, and we all know it, but it is growing, and so that is important. And, finally, when it came to a 24 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. chaotic and hectic stimulus situation, you and Mr. Agostini provided clear direction as captains of that ship, and the City is better for it. So we thank you for that.
I'll ask you some real questions. One, to the degree that the CLIP program has been a valuable asset to at least my office and probably many other members, to what degree can the stimulus money Jobs Program that we are anxiously trying to get an application in be used to complement what we're already doing with the non-violent offenders from the Prison System? Is there a way to keep those alleys and driveways, which are private property, which cannot be utilized by City municipal workers, can 25 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we kind of get our heads around how we can better utilize them in that regard? It will help Councilpeople around the City. (Witness approached witness table.)
I'm going to ask Tom Conway, who manages that program, to respond.
Madam President, members of Council, my name is Thomas Conway, Deputy Managing Director for the City of Philadelphia. With regards to the stimulus money, we did meet with the Mayor's Office with regards to acquiring roughly about individuals to work in the 19 Community Services Program. Also met 20 with the Prison officials with regards to acquiring non-violent prison participants with regards to cleaning vacant lots, removing graffiti and also cleaning alleyways.
So is that 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. like we're going to use the stimulus money?
Because I only have five minutes, so short answers are better.
The good news is we're going to use the non-violent offenders from the Prisons three times a week at two separate locations.
But are we going to get regular people from the neighborhoods also connected to that?
That's our hope, is we want to engage the community to create large-scale clean-ups throughout the City of Philadelphia, working with Councilmembers and also community organizations and business associations throughout the City.
Because as we look at revenue enhancements, which are never popular, if we can 27 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. correspondingly increase services that we have not been able to address in the past, it gives us at least a rational argument about that. So I appreciate that. Can we also create or are we working towards the warrant nuisance piece, which my colleague Councilman DiCicco started the broken window theory? Are we incorporating that -- a lot of the CDCs and community folk out there want to get these nuisance properties either turned over to the City so they can be put back in reuse. Are we kind of working with that to complement what we're doing on our clean-ups?
If we're seeing a property that is vacant and is a blight in the community on an otherwise great block, can we start to use those ticketing processes to kind of either pry the owner into maintaining the property 28 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. or get it in City inventory so that we can put it back out there and get someone to develop it?
What happens when we do visit a private either piece of land or property in the City of Philadelphia, we start the violation process, which the Inspector goes out, documents the violation with pictures. We send the owner a violation notice. We give them either ten to 30 days to comply the violation. If they don't comply the violation, then they send City crews to abate the nuisance, and they do receive a bill. Everything that we go out to and send City crews on, they do receive a bill. If they do not pay the bill, then we do place a lien on the property, and once there's enough liens placed on a property, then the City could actually acquire the property.
I guess what I want you to do is suggest to this body 29 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. how we can improve the regulations laws so that we can expedite that process without violating the property owners' rights. But it has come to a point where we have to do something in a quick manner, because it is a cancer on otherwise good blocks, and block captains that I come in contact with become increasingly more frustrated with the inability to move an owner to do the right thing.
I think a large part of that problem is that some of the property owners are deceased. There's just vacant lots and vacant properties that we do not know who the owner is. We need to look into a solution to either create some type of larger tax or abatement fee to acquire these properties, so when they are ready to be developed, the liens are already in place and we can actually just move on it.
You're a front-line guy. Tell us what we need to 30 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. do to help you. I have for you, Dr. Barnett, I want you to on the record tell the next person to occupy that seat what lessons learned that you, as Blondell Reynolds Brown would say, do you take from this -- and this is a teaching moment for them -- and what we need to be aware of as a Council as to obstacles or things that can make the next job done by the next Managing Director a little better.
Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Greenlee.
Thank you, Madam President. Let me echo, thank you for your services to the City, Dr. Barnett.
On 3-1-1 I know in the beginning I think it was 24 hours; is that right? 31 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Tom, you don't have to go anywhere. I'll have a question.
It was 24 hours, 11 and we reduced that in the last budget 12 reduction cycle and we're continuing that 13 into Fiscal Year '11. So it will not -- 14 at the current budget level, 3-1-1 will 15 have its current hours, not 24 hours a 16 day. 17
Well, let's see. 20 It's 8:00 until 6:00 -- 8:00 to 8:00 and 21 then on Saturdays, it's 9:00 to 5:00. 22
Is there voice mail? I mean, if they have a problem, can they leave --
No. We were advised that voice mail is really a very difficult way to follow up on 3-1-1. If you'd like more information about that, I can bring Rosetta up, but at this point, they would have to call back.
And then to sort of piggyback that, does that cause more people to call 9-1-1, the fact that they can't get through 3-1-1?
We haven't noticed that that has happened. The reason that we chose the hours that we did is, we looked at the number of calls that we get by hour and by day of the week, and we reduced the hours where we get the fewest calls. And so far, our experience is is that it's not increasing things during those hours to 9-1-1 and people are just calling back when the 3-1-1 center is open. 33 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
And what message do you get when they're off? Is there something that comes on?
It says something about the hours -- it says what the hours are and encourages the callers to call back.
This is good, Tom. We're not putting you on the spot here. Again, thank you for all you do. I know we all talk to you many times, Mr. Conway, so we appreciate it. Just this Blight Camera Surveillance Initiative, is that the same thing that Councilman Clarke had talked about? Is that the same cameras that he has with the -- that I think were put in the high-crime areas?
This is different? Okay. Can you explain that a little bit for us?
These are solar-powered, motion-sensitive, blight-deterrent cameras. They can be easily moved and located to different locations throughout the City. We worked with the Streets Department and we created what's called the Dirty Dozen of short dump hot spots, which is dumping of debris and trash, and what we do is, we place about two or three cameras at that location. What happens is, the motion -- the vehicle sets off the motion-sensitive camera. It takes a picture. We can zoom in to the license plate, catch the perpetrator actually in the act with regards to the picture of it. It does work in darkness, which is very effective and efficient, because a lot of these locations that they do short dump are out of the way, and they erode streets. And I believe it was 17 35 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. tickets, 17 $300 tickets were issued. We do send the picture out with the ticket, so it's --
Sort of like the Parking Authority does with the red light?
Yeah. Not that they want it, but hard for them to disagree with the case that we have.
Okay. Great. Thank you. One last thing. On your new venture, as you call it, for CLIP with the partnerships, now that hasn't happened yet; that is something you're putting together?
And am I right if the budget is -- somehow you don't get your full allocation, that would be one of the things that probably you would have trouble continuing or moving towards? 36 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
All right. Thank you. Thanks again. Thank you, Madam President.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Brown.
Thank you, Madam President. Good morning. Let me start off by echoing the sentiments of my colleagues. We really have watched and paid attention to your laser-beam focus on the Managing Director's Office, particularly 3-1-1, and for moving the needle on that new initiative. So we thank you for that.
And let me say that the mark of a true professional is consistency, and Tim Conway over the years I've been here has been a real professional around the CLIP program. 37 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Tom Conway. Forgive me.
So there's a universal view that you're very responsive, and we appreciate that.
Are there plans to increase the vacant lot abatements next fiscal year?
That's what part of the additional funding is going to be used for, to increase the vacant lot clean-up program as well as graffiti removal with about 20 to 25 temporary seasonal employees.
That's part of the improvements with the Clean Philly fee. So there's an additional 500,000 that is going to CLIP for expanded 38 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. services out of that fee.
And how do those lucky lots become lucky to be part of the expansion? What criteria or factors do you consider?
Well, what happens with a lot of the vacant lots that are called into either 3-1-1 or your offices, we do have to follow the process with regards to the inspection process and having a violation written, so on and so forth. But what we're looking to do is actually with the new initiative and the partnership with the Prison officials is to be more proactive, to work with the community organizations and go out and sweep and clean several hundred vacant lots at one time.
Okay. I have questions regarding the OEO, but I know my Councilman colleague here also has questions on that. So let me segue back to Councilman Jones' last question. Managing Director, if you had 39 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. to pick one, two or three top priority considerations, challenges or recommendations that you would offer to your successor, what would they be?
Well, I think that continued improvements in 3-1-1 will really serve the City well. We've started it and miraculously with a very limited investment and we have made great strides, but to make this the kind of customer-focused government that you want, additional improvements will be needed in 3-1-1, including investments in technology. I'd like for us to go back to the hours. I'd like for us to 17 think regionally. I'd like for us to be 18 more connected with hand-held technology 19 that City workers have. All of these 20 kinds of things are possible with 3-1-1, 21 and I encourage you to continue the 22 improvements in 3-1-1. 23 I would also encourage you to 24 continue the focus on performance management through PhillyStat, really 40 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. paying attention to the results that you're getting for the dollars the taxpayers are giving us. And, thirdly, I think substantial reform in the way people do business in the City of Philadelphia, the way the government works is going to require substantial investment in technology. The biggest impediment that we have now to improving the way we work is that we don't have adequate technology. So I'm very encouraged with the Capital Budget proposals to improve our investment in technology, and I would urge the City Council to pay attention to making sure that those investments really do happen, because I think it will pay off for us and for our citizens.
Cite an example on where added needed technology improves the outcome.
Right now in the City of Philadelphia all of the workforce fills out paper time sheets. So we fill 41 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. out and sign paper time sheets for all the people who work in the City of Philadelphia. There's no reason that can't be an automated system. There's no 6 reason that that can't be tied in to our financial system, to our payroll system, to our pension system as well. And it's one of the top priorities recommended by the Private Sector Outreach Board, and it will be one of the things that we work on with the investments in technology that are anticipated in the Capital Budget this next year. That will save not only a lot of time, but it will also free up a lot of people who are now spending most of their time in a manual process of filling out paper time sheets. That's just one of thousands of things like that that we can improve.
In those -- agreed 2,000 percent. The only footnote I would add is, putting my former teacher hat on, is consideration for those citizens who come to apply for 42 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. work and simply don't have the skill-set for managing or manipulating technology. So that would be a great movement of the needle as long as we create a circumstance where we accommodate those citizens who simply come ill-equipped to manage technology.
That's a good point. Additional training and capacity building is an important part.
Okay. The clock hasn't struck yet, so let's go to the last page of your testimony where you say, and I state, The Managing Director's Office is committed to supporting the Administration's goal of percent 18 minority, women and disable-owned 19 businesses. 20 I live in a world where you 21 listen to what people say, then you watch 22 what they do. So cite for me what that 23 means, what "commitment" means. What 24 strategies or tactics or new practices 25 are in place to ensure that that goal is 43 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. met?
Well, first of all, I'll tell you about the action that supports it. In Fiscal Year '9, our percentage was 16.6 percent, and this year so far our percentage is 27 percent. So we feel that it's a very doable goal to reach another percent. 10 We work with the Office of 11 Economic Opportunity with every 12 professional service contract or other 13 contract that we submit to encourage 14 participation. We've also gone through a 15 process with the Office of Economic 16 Opportunity to identify vendors that we 17 have not used that we know about so that 18 we're not -- we're building the list that 19 we choose from, as well as the kinds of 20 things that we've been doing in the past in choosing from the existing list.
44 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Miller.
Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, Ms. Barnett and staff. I have a couple questions. Can you tell me the difference between the Clean Philly Program and the Keep Philly Clean? What's the difference?
The Clean Philly Program are those packages of services that we have associated with the Clean Philly fee. So it would include trash collection, rubbish collection, leaf collection, as well as expansion of the Community Life Improvement Program.
Or is it 45 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the same?
Well, they're very similar. The Clean Philly Program is a work with volunteers and other organizations to try to encourage people to keep the place clean, either with construction or with neighborhood clean-ups or others.
Like through the Philadelphia More Beautiful Campaign?
Okay. Last year in your testimony there were four priorities on the first page - economic recovery and jobs, enhancing public safety, investing in youth and protecting the most vulnerable Philadelphians, and reforming government. So this year -- and of all those four priorities, two of them to me are very important, and public safety has always been a number one priority for me, and as 46 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Chair of the Public Safety Committee, I'm even more interested in public safety. It seems to be that many good programs centered around youth violence prevention have either been cut or are some of the first programs to be cut, and I guess it disturbs me that you mention that the YVRP program would be cut. I would think that that program should be a priority. Of those four priorities, we're continuing to talk about economic recovery and jobs and reforming government and putting lots of money in IT and then cutting in youth. Is there some reason for that? Isn't youth and protecting our citizens a priority?
Let me first say I'm so glad that you read those goals, because those goals continue to be our goals, and I want to be clear about what 47 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we're doing with the Youth Violence Reduction Partnership. Our proposal is not to cut it. If we -- we were asked to talk about what our seven and a half percent cuts would be, and in the seven and a half percent cuts, which we are not recommending, we would have to cut the Youth Violence Reduction Partnership. We also have some additional people here to talk to you about that, if you're interested in hearing some more.
We eliminated the AVRP program and we just can't keep eliminating these youth programs. DEPUTY
Good morning, Councilwoman. Everett Gillison, Deputy Mayor for Public Safety. Good morning, Council President and all other members of Council. We agree totally with you, 48 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Councilwoman. We are not proposing to cut it at all. As a matter of fact, as you know both in my briefings with you and also with my stated position, we should try to expand whenever necessary. That program in particular is one that is very near and dear to my heart. I know it works. It has the track record and the performance that works. I've actually invited some people here who are youth partners to talk about the effect of that program, so if you'd like to have them come up.
Yes. That would be very good. Because I know it works too and it just disturbed me that I see that there's a potential for cuts, additional cuts, in youth violence. DEPUTY
Particularly when we have -- what are we calling those, the children that are meeting like on South Street? 49 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Flash mobs.
Yeah. We have all that going on and we're talking about youth violence. DEPUTY
Yes. Is Mr. Thompson here? As Mr. Thompson comes forward, I'll just give you some of the background on him. Mr. Thompson is years old. 13 He is currently living in Upper Darby, 14 but he has been living in the 19th 15 District for quite a long time. YVRP 16 still visits him at his new address, and 17 he lives with his mother and is the 18 youngest of eight siblings. He does have 19 an adult arrest history for gunpoint 20 robbery. He served 20 months in jail, and he was active at one time with a gang that was at 56th and Master. He's been shot, but the person that he actually has been dealing with is a street worker. His street worker, who is Matue Swann 50 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. (ph), who is also present. But I could just have him talk to you about not only the efficacy of this program, but also its use and how we are using this investment to change lives. (Witness approached witness table.) DEPUTY
So if, Mr. Thompson, if you'd like to, Councilwoman Miller. Just speak into the -- just say your name.
How you doing, everybody? My name is Alan Thompson. I'm here to basically tell everybody that ever since I've been in this program, like everything been going on the street bad for me. Being as though when I wasn't in the program, I was getting in a lot of things, getting shot, getting shot at, not going to school, not listening to my mom. And basically ever since I met my street worker, Mr. Swanns, and -- at first I was having a little trouble, then I just started getting on the right page, 51 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. and ever since then, I took my GED test, because I had never finished school, and I'm waiting for my results now. I'm taking a trade for construction, and basically I'm trying to do the best I can. DEPUTY
And you're interested in a construction job as you get out?
And you became involved with YVRP, what, 15, 16? 52 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. How old were you then?
Good. That's great. We want to continue to hear good things about you.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, Dr. Barnett. How 53 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. are you?
Thank you for the kind words in your testimony. I want to say it's been a pleasure to work on the Private Sector Outreach Board with you and to get to know you over the past couple of years. It's been a delight working with you and all of the different initiatives going on in your office. You are our first professional Managing Director, I think, in the City's history, and we will certainly miss the benefit of that experience, but I hope I'll be able to call you once in a while if I have questions about various things.
That's great. Anyway, I'm sad that this is your last budget, but now I don't feel bad about cutting the Managing Director's 54 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Office to the bone.
I just have specific questions that I've been asking everybody, and it's really about currently vacant positions or positions that have been unfilled for a while, et cetera. So I ask people detail, how long positions have been vacant, what specific job duties will be fulfilled by the position and how those job duties have been handled while positions have been vacant. The budget detail indicates several new or vacant positions that are budgeted to be filled. Starting with the new positions, the detail indicates an Assistant Managing Director position in the Administration Division. The detail shows that the position was vacant as of January. Has the position been filled?
Yes, it has been filled. It's in 3-1-1. 55 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
And how were those duties performed prior to that person being hired?
We had additional people who left the employment in the Contact Center and so those duties were transferred to our new hire.
So you have a net reduction or are you planning to fill those positions?
No. We just filled the position. It was vacated and we filled it.
It was vacated and you filled it, okay. While it was vacated, were those functions being performed? 56 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Okay. What would be the consequences of eliminating that position?
I think that it would damage the ability of the 3-1-1 Contact Center to perform.
Okay. There are three new Assistant Managing Director positions in the 3-1-1 Customer Contact Center. What are the salaries for these positions?
Two of them are at 40,000 and one of them is at 29,000. The one at 29,000 has been filled.
Hold on. Let me get the Contact Center Director up here. 57 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. (Witness approached witness table.)
You'll see that many of our vacant positions are in the Contact Center, so I'd like for you to hear directly from our Contact Center Manager, Rosetta Lue.
Good morning, Madam President and City Council. The positions that we have in the Contact Center are support positions. The three positions you're speaking of, one was filled already and we have two more that are vacant.
And what are the duties of these people in those positions?
For the Assistant Managing position, one of them is to oversee the Quality Assurance Program, which is critical in a contact center.
Who is doing that now? 58 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
It's sporadic, so it's between the supervisors and also another person when they have the opportunity to, but there's no 6 consistency right now.
Okay. And can you make it consistent among the supervisors?
We've tried to make it consistent among the supervisors. The issue we have is, as a start-up organization, there are a number of things on the supervisors' plate that sometimes they can't consistently monitor for quality assurance as we would like to.
They do go on the phone to handle calls when we have peak 59 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. call volumes.
There's a new 40K Administrative Assistant position in the Health and Opportunity Division. What are the job duties of that position?
That's a position that was established last year as assistance for Michael DiBerardinis, who is the Commissioner of Parks and Recreation.
He currently has an administrative -- I don't know what he's called, whether it's a Chief of Staff or Administrative Aide who is helping with those positions now, with those duties now.
What would be the consequences of not hiring that person?
Well, that would be less administrative support for the Commissioner. 60 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Okay. It appears there were four 3-1-1 Contact Center agent positions in January. Have those been filled?
Good morning again. Those positions have just recently been filled.
I would say as we compare this year, January and February of this year to last year, we've had a 50 percent increase in call volume. Without those additional positions, we will have customers remaining in queue or on hold for longer periods of time and we would 61 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. be unable to perform the basic service of the Contact Center.
I have additional questions, Madam President, but I'll come back.
Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke.
Tom, the issue with respect to vacant lots -- and I want to thank you for your quick response when we call and ask for some assistance on various issues. 62 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Vacant lots and graffiti removal, ideally if you were in a position to get a significant number of employees traditionally during the season, which is the summer months, how many could you use, if someone said right now you can have a whole bunch of --
Sky's the limit? When we first initiated the program back in, I think, 2001, 2002, we had roughly a hundred employees just solely for the vacant lot program, and that year we did clean roughly 31,000 vacant lots.
Were you able to get to all of the lots during the course of the year?
But unfortunately given -- if you can get 63 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. 200, 300 employees this summer, would you be able to accommodate the supervision?
No? What would it take for you to accommodate the supervision?
We would need to create more supervisor positions. We actually need more equipment and vehicles to transport them.
All right. The reason I ask this, because the potential availability of the stimulus workers as a result of the Philadelphia Workforce Development Corporation, I believe they're going to be asking for 5,000 slots to provide opportunities to for-profit, non-profit, CDCs and I understand the City. What's the maximum we can get? Because our concern is that -- and I know Councilman Jones has been working on this as a team member of the City stimulus 64 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. program -- that it could conceivably, assuming that every organization took four employees, that we'd be looking for 1,200 employers. So we really need to be in the position to get a few employers that will take a lot of people, and I just thought about the ability of the City to have these people going to work, cleaning graffiti, which, as you know, is closely approaching out-of-control proportions, and vacant lots. What's your interaction with, I guess, Jenny -- what's her name?
Yes, we did meet with Jenny, and at this time, with the current funding level that I do have, we were able to come up with a number of about 25.
But also keep in mind we are going to be working with the Prison System.
The Prison System with regards to non-violent offenders. Three days a week we're going to have prison folks coming out to assist with cleaning the vacant lots, and that's at two separate locations. So that will be six additional teams this year.
Okay. I guess my point is is that I want to -- my preference, if we can get people jobs -- and I forget how much they pay, up to $13 an hour?
I really would like to maximize that opportunity, 66 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. because the worst thing we can do is not take advantage of stimulus dollars. And I think apparently the match, the City's match, is percent, but the 20 percent 6 can be supervisory. 7
Right. The 8 in-kind contribution of the supervisor 9 counts as the in-kind match. 10
So I guess 11 I'm saying, is there a way that we can go 12 way beyond the 25? 13
I mean, at this 14 time, we would need to hire additional 15 supervisors for sure. With regards to 16 equipment, we don't have that on hand 17 right now. We actually have to get 18 vehicles to transport the individuals, 19 which is a large portion of the 20 operation. Logistically --
-- it would be very hard to set up in a short period of time, because I do believe the funding is 67 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. set to expire at the end of September unless it was approved for additional funding.
The Chair recognizes Councilman Green for a point of information.
No, I don't mean it that way. Couldn't current employees serve as supervisors even though we're not making them supervisors, and instead of having half your crews or send out three of your regular people or two of your regular people or one of your regular people and ten other kids, as one example? And another -- there are school buses that are empty during the summer. I mean, we have to get creative in order to make sure we are able to take 68 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. advantage of the stimulus dollars, and I keep hearing the same bureaucratic response, which is, Here is the problem, and what I'd like to hear you say is --
No. I was actually in the process of getting to that point before the Councilman assisted me, to ask about some creative ideas. I just wanted to make sure that I knew what the problem was before we talked about potential solutions, although I concur with the Councilman, but I was going to 69 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. get there eventually. If we're talking about a short term, because I understand right now it conceivably will expire in September, but there is likelihood that they may continue, because Congresswoman Schwartz is apparently a key member of that committee that funds that particular program. There's a likelihood that it will be extended. As Councilman Green said in my stead, could we come up with a significant strategy, a creative strategy, on expanding those opportunities? Because I would hate to think that we lose opportunities to put a lot of people to work and do good things and getting the City clean and sending the message to these knucklehead graffiti artists, is what they call themselves, that we're not going to allow them to continue to deface our city. And as long as we continue not to respond, they're going to basically take the position that 70 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. they run this city, they own this city and continue to aggressively mar the looks of our city. So can we kind of sit down and talk about that? Because I just hate to have to send the money back.
Because at the rate we're going, we're not going to get the 5,000 slots.
No, and I think, again, the logistics of it, it's not as simple as just putting the individuals in the bus. There's safety issues, liability issues and, of course, supervision issues. Roughly, you need about six employees to one supervisor with regards to doing vacant lots in the City of Philadelphia.
So you're talking about a substantial number of folks that we need to hire to supervise them in a 71 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. very short period of time. I mean, it's not saying it cannot happen, but --
Well, my understanding that there are a number of other organizations that do that work, like Self, Incorporated --
-- beyond the City workforce -- Ready, Willing and Able -- that we can count on them, that we can funnel that workforce through us and have them subcontract, not for money purposes but subcontract that activity in terms of supervisory, in terms -- I mean, Ready, Willing and Able, they have buses. Self has buses, transportation. I mean, we got to get creative. I mean, there are ways of doing this, and I hate to think that just because we can't transport people to the vacant lots or the graffiti removal site that we lose this opportunity.
Well, I'd definitely love to sit down and explore 72 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. it with you.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilman Kelly.
I just want to go over a few things that you mentioned in your testimony. I was surprised that -- you may have to have a 7.5 reduction in your budget, but I was surprised that you're going to pick on one of the programs that I think has been doing a tremendous job in the City of Philadelphia. And at this time, I'd like to commend your Deputy, 73 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Mr. Conway, for doing an excellent job running it. It's a good department. We always -- any time we call there, we had I think an immediate and timely response to our service needs. I would like to know -- you mention that the reduction would cause you to reduce the Graffiti Paint and Supply Voucher Program. Would this reduce any personnel? Would there be a reduction in personnel?
It would be 150,348 for the reduction in the purchase of equipment and supplies and a reduction of an additional 290,681 for the free bags and the gloves for community 74 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. clean-up.
So it's around 450,000, somewhere around there, the savings. Could you specify the list of contracts that would be eliminated?
No. I'm talking about the roughly, you say, 250,000 would be eliminated.
Yes. That reduction is in the professional services that support the implementation of reform team implementation, probably in the time and attendance system, but there are several other reform initiatives that need to be implemented and would require an investment.
Okay. I would just like to get on to your 3-1-1 75 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. system. You mention here you're investing approximately 500,000 in capital dollars. Are you spending that now? Is that budgeted?
It is more than a study. It is an implementation plan. We have to do an assessment of what we need, and we need to look at both our telephone technology as well as our information systems technology. We'll do that, and the 500,000 ought to also enable us to begin the implementation based on that analysis.
How are your personnel trained for 3-1-1? We have some problems. For instance, I want to 76 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. give you one. One of my staff members called the information -- one of our constituents called, for instance, and it was about a stray animal. Your operator searches the knowledge center, I believe?
And they in turn, the operator would notify the person to call PACA. Now, PACA hasn't been around for at least over a year, a year and a half. So I'm thinking about updating. How is your system updated as to getting the updated information to give a constituent?
That's a good question. Our staff works with the various departments and agencies within the City and outside of the City to ensure our knowledge base is updated with accurate and correct information. Whenever it is found that the information in our system is incorrect, we have a knowledge base liaison that actually contacts the agency to ensure that we get 77 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the correct information in our system. So that's how that process works.
The knowledge base is updated by contacting either the department or the agency who first provided --
We do it every day, on a regular basis. We'll contact agencies if we find out -- right now we have over 4,000 articles in our knowledge base systems, and sometimes the information that we have, the departmental information may have changed, and what we do is, we contact the department or the department may contact us to provide us updated information within our systems.
If you do that every day, why wouldn't your operator know that PACA has been out of 78 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. business and the current information would be to contact the SPCA? And I'm sure that there have been probably, oh, I don't know, in a month's time, there probably could be 100, 150 calls made to your operator.
I will go back and research and find out what exactly is in our knowledge base and bring that answer back.
Thank you again, Madam President. What I want to know is with the deregulation of electric coming in '11, we pay for a lot of street lights, and Councilman Clarke and I, at his leadership, have begun to look at the process of an authority that would put the City of Philadelphia in a better 79 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. position to negotiate energy rates, but is there a plan out of your office to deal with this impending budgetary impact?
Yes, and Deputy Mayor Rina Cutler will describe our preparation. (Witness approached witness table.) DEPUTY
Good morning. For the record, Rina Cutler, Deputy Mayor, Transportation and Utilities. Councilman, we are in the process of trying to complete a business plan in anticipation of electric rates, caps, coming off at the end of the year. We have recently hired, through a grant, a new energy manager. The gentleman we hired is paid for out of our funds. His previous employment was procuring energy for Amtrak as well as several school systems in New Jersey. So we are completing a plan in 80 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. order to go on the street and do the purchasing of energy for the City sometime before the end of the year.
And have you put together some scenarios? If left unchecked -- we don't have a real big discount with PECO at this point, do we? DEPUTY
I think we're paying -- currently, it's a 15 percent discount that will obviously go away at the end of the year.
What is our energy consumption by way of electric annually now? DEPUTY
I do not have that number, Councilman. It is 81 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. actually handled out of -- it will be handled out of individual departments going forward as of, I believe, July. It is currently all within Public Property, I believe.
But not just that, we also pay for street lighting, correct? DEPUTY
We do, but it is part of the overall City -- the bill for street lighting, I believe, is just in excess of about $3 million a year, and I believe there's another -- don't hold me to it, but around a million for traffic signals as well.
So we're talking about, minimum, round-about figures, five million. I won't hold you to that, but if we're talking about $5 million and a 15 percent increase, that's 82 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. substantial. And as Councilman Clarke's visionary plan to look at these options, we're talking about the triangle complex as an example of how we can reduce our energy consumption, and it may have ramifications if we start talking about police stations, fire stations, rec centers, and I know we did the Novesco -- is that Invesco? DEPUTY
ESCO. And they are looking and auditing or looking at how we audit those buildings. I think all of that information, as we start planning our Five Year Plan, is probably equal in importance if we start accompanying gas prices and consumption of heating bills, as important second only to our staffing costs. DEPUTY
Well, I think that's correct. We are -- in fact, 83 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the numbers you just talked about for street lights and the number I talked about for street lights and traffic signals is actually a very small part of the City's overall energy consumption in all of its buildings. There are 12,000 individually metered City-owned buildings.
Can you give us a rough estimate of what that is? I would hope you would provide that figure to the President, but can you give us a rough estimate of what we're talking about? DEPUTY
I think it's around $37 million for the current fiscal year. So that is before the caps come off.
So with a 15 percent possible increase there and possibly other utility companies to follow, our planning going forward is as important as our labor negotiations, to say the least. We have the ability, if 84 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we do this right -- and I've had some preliminary conversations with Councilman Clarke, and, again, I give him kudos for his forward thinking -- to eventually reverse that and even sell energy back to the grid. DEPUTY
Well, I mean, I think there are a number of different issues here. In order to sell energy back to the grid, we need to be producing it, and I think there are a variety of ways that we are currently looking at in terms of putting a business plan together as to whether we go out into the wholesale part of the business or whether we purchase it on the retail part of the business, how we manage both the conservation side, which is through the Office of Sustainability, or the procurement side, which will run through my office. So I think there are a lot of moving parts to it, but certainly with 12,000 individual meters and rate caps 85 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. coming off, I would agree with you that the future procurement of power is going to need to be managed very tightly in order not to become another budget buster for us.
Just as a closing comment, as Transportation Chair and Public Utilities, we need to look at that holistically to see whether or not some of these utilities can work out in the reverse of us being purveyors, sellers of energy to smaller municipalities. DEPUTY
I'm happy to have a conversation about it. I think the City needs to be somewhat cautious about becoming a utility, because I think there are some severe risks financially to becoming a utility and having to manage our own version of non-payment. And so I do think there are -- there is one version which really has us become a provider of energy ourselves. There's another version that has us be able to 86 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. produce some of our own power and sell the excess back to the grid after we've used our own. There's another version where we will need to figure out what alternative energy sources are that we want to pick up and try to wean ourselves a little more off electricity. So I think there are a variety of pieces to it. It is my office's hope that within the next two months, we will have a business plan drafted, and at that point, we are planning on holding a briefing for Council before anything else.
Necessity is the mother of invention, and with deregulation, it's going to become a necessity, but I also think it is the birth place of opportunity, and if we look at this correctly, some of the low-income people in the City of Philadelphia may be the unintended or intended beneficiary of your work. So I'm going to be looking at what you do 87 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. with an eye towards it's deregulation on us, but it's also deregulation on the rest of the citizens in the City of Philadelphia. Thank you, Madam President.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Brown.
Thank you, Madam President. Is there anything else either one of you might want to say on Councilman Jones' question or concern regarding -- DEPUTY
Well, I do think it's going to become a fairly big focal point for the Administration and the City, not only because we're likely to have to pay more in terms of procurement, but the how we procure it, the who we procure it from, and all of 88 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. which utilities are regulated by the PUC. And so I think there are a lot of pieces to it. I would agree I think there also needs to be a fairly major public information program. I think it's pretty clear to me at this point that the public is not -- they may be aware that electric caps come off, but they're not necessarily aware that they can go out into the market and procure energy, or should. PECO will have a rate, as they are required to do under the PUC legislation, but it will be a rate of last resort. We do not expect that that is the best rate anybody can get. And so I think part of what needs to happen going forward is, there really also needs to be a public information campaign that starts to prepare the citizens for that pretty dramatic way of doing business is really going to change for them.
Who do you think might be best suited to undertake 89 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the massive -- that would be a massive deep reach to help citizens get ready for this? Should it be the City? Should it be the Office of Consumer Affairs? Should it be PECO? Because then you have to look at who is going to foot the bill 8 for that. So who do you think is best suited? DEPUTY
Well, I think the message is the simpler one. Obviously the cost of that public information campaign, I am hoping, is not in fact borne by the City. So I think there are a number of mechanisms by which citizens can and should be informed and whether they are the utility company itself. Much of the advertisement you're seeing now is from additional energy providers, not PECO, who want to come into the market. And so you're just starting to see advertisements going to citizens in order to get them to change their provider from PECO. So I think 90 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. there is a way to corral all of the folks who wish to provide energy to residents and businesses in Philadelphia, and that hopefully will be part of the business plan as well.
When do you anticipate completion of the plan? DEPUTY
And is there any model of some other municipality that is doing this right already? DEPUTY
There are several. We are the last, I think, of the big cities who have a rate cap still in place.
We've been meeting with folks in Boston and Baltimore and at least in the northeast corridor, Washington, DC, because their energy rate caps came off some months 91 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. ago, some years ago. So we are trying to follow their models as well.
Okay, then. Three hundred eighty-seven thousand nine hundred fifty dollars was in overtime by the Transportation and Utilities, holiday overtime. What might that have been attributed to?
There's overtime for Police in the Youth Violence Reduction Partnership, and there is additional overtime in CLIP.
Okay. Speaking of Police, with the recent -- and I know that discussions are preliminary under the leadership of Councilman Frank DiCicco, but with this new dilemma the City is facing, flash mobs and young people communicating via the social network, and there's a 92 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. decrease in the budget -- let me get this right. I believe I saw a decrease in the budget for the supervision of supportive high-risk youth. Now, that decision, I'm sure, was made prior to this new dilemma that the City is facing with young people. So has there been any discussion internally to reconcile that, that budget decrease with this new dilemma with young people?
I think the budget decrease that you're referring to is what we would have to do if we took the seven and a half percent cuts. Our proposal doesn't include those cuts. So our proposal to you is that the funding remain there. And Deputy Mayor Gillison can talk about some of our recent efforts with the Police in terms of dealing with flash mobs.
Okay. Please. (Witness approached witness table.) 93 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. DEPUTY
Yes. As you know -- again, Everett Gillison, Deputy Mayor for Public Safety. Yes. We have been meeting not only with various merchants, as Councilman DiCicco knows, have been both e-mailing and doing our own sense of social networking in order to make sure that we keep ahead of this as much as we can. But, yes, the Police Commissioner, myself, the Mayor, we've been discussing different ways of increasing the flexibility of the force that is down in that area. We want to make sure that we keep a citywide presence, because we have to be able to move and move quickly once we get the intel. What we really need to do is have parents do what they did just this other day, they told us about what was going on, because they were monitoring their children, and we had an additional way of finding out and we were able to move quickly to move the resources to 94 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. where we anticipated the problem would be. If we did not have that, it takes time to actually bring that on. I know that we have been able to bring additional undercover units into the Center City area, along the South Street area and even in Manayunk in anticipation of things that may have happened or that we were tipped off about. But we are trying to be as vigilant and as quickly to respond to these things that is brought to our attention.
So there is a connect with the School District, I know. DEPUTY
Yes. Yes. Obviously we are connected with the School District. We have a connection with the various associations around the City and we use Town Watch to be able to get some additional information. We are trying to be as flexible as possible without trying to be overly 95 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. dramatic in our response as we go forward.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Miller.
Thank you. Thank you, Madam President. I have a couple questions for Tom Conway and the CLIP program. (Witness approached witness table.)
But, Tom, remember you and I had a discussion when -- you know that my staff does a lot of vacant lot clean-ups with the 96 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. community groups, et cetera, and many times they have a problem with not having the proper equipment or enough of that. Remember we had a conversation and you talked about liability, and I'm saying, Well, they're City workers also. So have you figured out what to do when we need to borrow equipment from you so we can maybe do the job in half the time?
We're talking about creating a partnership with the prison participants and community organizations and your office. This actually came out of what you were stating and also Councilman Clarke with regards to how do we work together, because you understand there is just 40,000 vacant lots in the City of Philadelphia. There's no way that the City is going to be able to clean and maintain them by ourselves. So with your suggestion of getting equipment and having your office, our office work 97 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. together and also bring in the prison participants into it, I mean, our goal is to go out on weekends and just have massive clean-ups in Council districts and neighborhoods throughout the City of Philadelphia.
So then there has been a system set up where we can borrow needed equipment?
Well, we're going to go out there with you. We'll have somebody from our staff be out there with you during the clean-up. So you will be able to get equipment out there.
Okay. Well, I guess that works. How many people are you bringing in from the prison to help on -- you said three times a week?
We have three times a week at two separate locations. I don't have an exact number. About 20 each day. So that's 60 workers per week, additional workers. 98 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Well, this week on Friday we're doing a clean-up at a playground, and so if in fact we needed help, which I don't know that we do, we're trying to get other resources, but if we do, who do we call? Just you?
Okay. I have some other questions regarding 3-1-1. Thank you, Tom.
Rosetta, 99 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. was there anything you learned or thought you might change based on the Call Center's response in handling of the numerous calls during this largest snowstorm of our lifetime?
Yes. I mean, we've had three opportunities to get better at it. So one of the things that we learned as part of this is the critical need for us as a department and as a city to work together so we can have information for the customers when they call us up front. That has helped so much in being proactive and letting the citizens know what's going on and what the City is doing about it. Because we will get the same questions over and over again, and working with the Streets Department, the agents were more prepared to answer those questions for those constituents.
Because I got good information. I got good feedback, particularly one -- actually, I was just at a community meeting last week 100 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. and someone said that she used the e-mail system and got a very quick response to the issue of cleaning and shoveling her street. And then I've also -- and we receive all kinds of calls. I mean, I had one call where a person called my home and asked me to give her the Mayor's personal phone number because she was so outraged over her street not being cleaned and her attempts to communicate that with 3-1-1 and she couldn't get a live person on the phone. And most of the time when people call me, I will call just to see for myself. On that particular day, I never got a live person on the phone after making two calls and being on hold for quite some time, and I knew you were overwhelmed. I didn't know whether you had enough staff. I just didn't know what, but I know that that was surely a challenge and an opportunity to learn and do something different.
Correct. Correct. And you're correct in your assessment. 101 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. For example, we would normally get maybe 2,500, 3,000 calls a day. On some days we were hitting 18,000 calls coming through the Contact Center. So the agents -- and we were all hands on deck. We were in the Walk-in Center, doing e-mails, web self-service, people were calling. There was just a lot of customers calling in on particular days that we were not able to handle them within an adequate time period.
In a catastrophic situation like this, I think there is not a lot you can do very differently except communicate to the customers externally via radio, public service announcements, the web, again, the Contact Center, because they're calling us. But I think that whole communication plan really needs to be developed and looked at, even with the employees, making sure the employees understand what's going on. 102 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Those are the things that we need to concentrate on when we're dealing with catastrophic situations like those.
All right. Thank you. Thank you, Madam President. That bell sure goes off really quick.
The Chair recognizes Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Thank you, Madam President. Good morning. I'd just like to follow up on the flash mobbing issue. (Witness approached witness table.) COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: I happened to be in Center City Saturday. I went to the orchestra and then went for a late dinner at a restaurant at Broad and Locust, and I was literally in the middle of the crowds that were coming north on Broad obviously coming from South Street. I didn't know what it was. Originally I thought it was a bunch of kids that were 103 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. coming from one of the theatres, maybe there was a concert going on. And I will say that the majority, the vast majority, of the kids that I saw were well-behaved and well-mannered. As you know, we always get one or two knuckleheads that begin to start problems, and then the mob mentality takes over. I didn't see any incidents of violence, until somewhere around 11:30 when it looked like about police 13 vehicles were traveling south on Broad 14 Street trying to meander through the 15 traffic, because at that time of night 16 with all the theatres being let out and 17 the restaurants, Center City was packed. 18 And when I first got there, I really felt 19 good. I felt good about being in the 20 City. It was alive. The weather has changed. People were coming out enjoying themselves. And then it just turned into a situation that certainly did not make it very comfortable. I have received dozens and 104 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. dozens of e-mails since that incident, and what concerns me is not only the bad publicity that we receive, but the folks that I'm getting it from primarily are Philadelphians who live in the vicinity of Center City, South Street, who have seen lots of times different problems. We have Mardi Gras and other incidents. But I've never seen or heard the concern of the magnitude that I've seen over this weekend. People are fearful. I mean, really fearful for their livelihoods. Mostly everyone has suggested to me or told me that they are done going into Center City on a weekend and they will never go back to South Street to shop or dine. And these are people who live within a block or two of South Street. So I'm only saying that so that my colleagues understand the seriousness of this situation. A flash tells you it's in, it's gone and it goes away. This is the third, maybe fourth such 105 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. incident that we've had in the last couple of months. DEPUTY
Four months. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: I talked to the Mayor yesterday a couple of times about it, and what I'm asking my colleagues is to think about what I'm about to say. I did talk to a couple of my colleagues earlier this morning. I think what we need to do is to put a human face on this issue, maybe by way of the clergy, maybe by way of going out to the schools -- and not necessarily for people who are in public office like ourselves or the police -- to go out and try to talk to these kids about the negative impact that this is having on our city, which ultimately will cost all of us revenues and possibly loss of jobs. Most of the people who work in the service industry, about 85 percent of the people who work in the service industry in our city, come from our 106 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. neighborhoods. So when an incident happens at Macy's and people decide that I'm no longer going to shop at Macy's, that means that sales are down, which translates into less business, which means that Macy's will then begin to cut staff. That staff are people who are cousins and aunts, uncles, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers who live in these neighborhoods. I had a conversation with the regional manager for Macy's on the East Coast a couple weeks ago, came into a meet-and-greet type thing, and it wasn't specific about the flash mob, but obviously we got into that conversation. I talked to the Mayor about this yesterday, and I'm just offering it, and I'd ask my colleagues to think about this a little bit further. If there is a way in which we can encourage the hotel industry, the entertainment industry and obviously the retail folks to talk to some of their employees and ask if they 107 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. would act as ambassadors, if you will, to go out into the schools and talk to these kids about this fun thing that you think is neat is going to have a devastating effect on the livelihoods of most Philadelphians who -- all Philadelphians, for that matter, but primarily for the Philadelphians who work in our service industry, especially in the core of Center City. I think that's the message that we need to get out. I've gotten calls from reporters from New York and other places. I've refused to discuss the issue with them, because it just makes this situation worse. But I can show you e-mails. A lady who lives on Fitzwater Street, who -- I can't remember the name of her company. She works in Center City. She has a mini convention coming in in June, 800 people. She has already put a blast e-mail out telling all her folks who are coming here not to go to South Street, stay out of Center City, 108 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. find other venues to go and enjoy yourself, because Center City is dangerous. And this is a Philadelphia person, who is that afraid by bringing this convention, that she will be held somewhat responsible for not alerting the folks who are -- the conventioneers who are coming in for this convention. Again, I really didn't want to kind of get into this in a public way, but I think it's the only way really to get this message out. This is a very, in my opinion, a very serious situation, worse than Mardi Gras, because Mardi Gras happens once a year, and we've weaned ourselves away from that. We've gotten past it. But this occurrence could happen literally on a weekly basis, and if we don't do something -- and I'm not suggesting we're not. There's no 22 criticism here -- we're going to lose Center City. I am that concerned. And I really believe that we will lose our Center City. It's that bad. 109 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Thank you. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Kelly.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I couldn't agree with Councilman DiCicco more so. I think he has made some very, very good points, and I think it's something that I think the City and all of us have to look at to see how we can resolve that problem. I really do. Doctor, I know that you'll be leaving us soon and I want to thank you for your last two years of service.
I really do. I appreciate all the things that you've done for us. This is something that I brought up last year and I just want to 110 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. know if you had any additional thoughts about it. It's about removing the animal care and control out of the Health Department, because my good doctor, frankly, they don't give a damn. Now, I don't say that maliciously. I really don't. I think if Dr. Schwarz were here, he would give me a hundred reasons of higher priorities, and I would agree with him. This shouldn't be a high priority for them. They have the health of this whole city that they have to take care of, and I understand that. But I mentioned this last year, if you had any thoughts about removing it and putting it somewhere else that would make more sense than putting it in the Health Department.
We have Susan Kretsge here from Health and Opportunity, and I'd like to ask her to talk about some of the things that they're doing with animal care and control to improve the situation. I will say that we did look at 111 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. this. It is a fairly typical organizational arrangement in cities to have animal control involved with general public health. So I'm not sure that changing its organizational location would, by any magic way, make a difference in how we're doing it, but I do take your concerns and ideas about how we can better manage it and where it is to heart, and I'd like to ask one of the representatives here to let you know some of those things that we're doing to try to address your concerns. (Witness approached witness table.)
I'm Susan Kretsge. I'm here representing Dr. Schwarz, who had to be in Washington, DC today. The Health Department has spent, over the last year, a lot of time and energy looking at how animal control operations are handled and looking to improve them, and I know, Councilman 112 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Kelly, you're familiar with much of this. We have a contract in place with the SPCA. We continue efforts to become a no-kill city. There has been an informal group advising the Health Department on ways to better manage animal control, and that is becoming the formal Animal Advisory Committee, and I know that you will be serving on that as appointed by the Council President as an ex-officio member. We have done a lot of work reaching out to animal advocacy groups, people who maybe in the past had a somewhat hostile relationship with the Department. We have reached out to embrace them, because we are very committed to doing the best that we can around animal control activities and around the public safety issues related to that. I would mirror what the Managing Director said about where this 113 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. activity generally is housed within city governments. Often it is in the public health department or in a public safety area. The Department is very committed to working with all those interested to improve our efforts around this area.
Have you contacted any other cities to see how they handle animal control?
I can speak for the Health Department and say that they have spoken to other cities. I'm unable to give you any detail on that. I know when the Health Department is here to give their budget --
That's where most of my questions will be anyway. So I don't want to belabor the --
114 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilman Clarke.
Thank you, Madam President. I might need Mr. Frank up here. Real quick question. City Council, a number of members in Council, have been talking about enhancing the technology with Council internally. We've expanded our website, and I know a number of Councilpeople, actually Councilwoman Tasco and Councilwoman Quinones-Sanchez, are looking at some of the models in New York, CouncilStat. And you know, as we said, we are an independent branch of government, so we always look at ways of improving our internal situation. How difficult would it be if Council wanted to set up a system comparable to 3-1-1, but it would be a 4-1-1 number for Council, so you wouldn't have to figure out what Councilperson number to call or the tech staff or 115 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. whatever? You just call a particular number, 4-1-1. I kind of like that 4-1-1, because that's information.
Yeah, information. How difficult would it be? Well, one of the things that we've done, particularly with 3-1-1, is to work with Councilwoman Sanchez to look at CouncilStat in New York, and our Director, Rosetta Lue, has gone with the Council staff on a number of occasions to New York to see what their model is, and I'd like for her to talk a little bit about how CouncilStat works there. My sense is is that the best way to do this is to make sure that any of the information in CouncilStat is also coordinated with 3-1-1 stats and vice versa. As we do now --
Well, right now what we do is, we give each Councilmember regular reports on what kinds of issues 116 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. are in your district or citywide that we're getting through 3-1-1.
Doctor, I only have like five minutes. I don't want to use up my time talking about 3-1-1. Can I get --
The trip to New York, we actually saw their CouncilStat application, and what they're doing, they have not centralized it so the constituent calls one number. They're still keeping those individual Council offices within New York.
That's by choice. That's by choice. But what they have done, though, is actually purchased an application, a computer customer service 117 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. type of application, where it's centralized. So within those Council districts, they can actually pull the stats together of all the calls that are coming into the individual offices and begin to see a trend as to why customers or constituents are calling each individual Council office. So individually you may not -- you may have a small view of what's going on within your area, but what they have done is been able to aggregate that information across, I think it's, 52 boroughs or 52 districts within New York. They've been able to aggregate that data to say, Hey, there is a problem not just in my area but also in these other areas as well. So that's how they're using that CouncilStat information. It's really for Council.
Okay. I guess as I travel -- and I try to stay within my district, but every now and then, they allow me to go over the border 118 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. to other Council districts, and people sometimes ask about something in Council, and I said, Well, it's not really in my district, and off the top of my head, I can't think of a Councilperson's number and I don't know what to tell them. I usually tell them, Call my office. But if I say, Well, call 5-1-1, because I know you can't do 4-1-1, for obvious reasons. Call 5-1-1 and that will direct you to whatever Councilperson or whatever area of the City that you need to deal with your Councilperson on or at-large. That's basically kind of what I'm talking about.
Yeah. You can create a new model which not only is your information centralized in a database, you can also create a model where you have one phone number. If a constituent wants to call City Council, they're calling one number, and that call can either be dispatched or they can answer generally -- you can create the model. 119 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Well, I want to call that one number, but ultimately be --
-- sent to your Councilperson or an at-large Councilperson. From a technology standpoint, I guess the question I'm asking is, how difficult would that be to do?
From a technology standpoint, I'll let the CTO answer that, but from my experience, you can create the number and it wouldn't be that difficult, but I'll let him answer that question. (Witness approached witness table.)
And understand that after this hearing, Councilmembers might say, Are you crazy? We don't want to do that.
I'm Allan Frank, 120 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the Chief Technology Officer. To answer the question, yeah, it would be possible for Council to set up a phone number or whatever it is, 5-1-1, 6-1-1, and then when the citizen actually got something on the other side, the choice you could create is, even through voice response, the name of the particular Councilperson and then forward that call directly to that office. So there's any number of options that you would have, and it's really well within our capability to do that sort of thing. It's really not very difficult at all. I think the big issue is, is there somebody on the other side of the phone in the Councilperson's office that when there is a call, is someone actually live going to pick it up. I think that would be the bigger concern.
It's a no-brainer technically, if that's what you want. 121 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
If there's one number, somebody said, Well, I need to call City Council. Who is your Councilperson? I don't have no clue, which happens more frequently than you would think. Well, call this number and you get diverted to your Councilperson or an at-large Councilperson.
I'd like to call the young lady back for 3-1-1. I'm sorry. We should ask all these individual --
This is Rosetta Lue. She's our Director of the 3-1-1 122 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Contact Center.
The reports that you send out about the kind of calls you get and you categorize them by district, I notice that in my district, the 9th, but also other districts, we have a large -- the calls for abandoned cars sort of outstrips other than when you have episodic stuff like the snow. Other than that, you get abandoned cars. What's happening? For a moment we thought the abandoned car program was pretty much operating and the cars were leaving, but I see there's an increase in a number of those calls, and particularly in my district.
Right. Well, that's one of the good things about 3-1-1, is that we actually -- what the perception is, that something may have been taken care of or that has been fixed, what we're able to do is to capture the citizen's request for resolution of a 123 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. problem. And so with those reports, we're able to ascertain that there are issues within certain districts on different types of complaints. So with the abandoned car program, let me refer to Deputy Mayor Gillison to talk a little bit about exactly what's happening with that program.
We are seeing an increase in these, and these are handled by the Police Department, which is why Deputy Mayor Gillison is going to respond to your question. (Witness approached witness table.) DEPUTY
Good morning, Councilwoman. Yes, the abandoned car policy is still in effect. It's still going on. The program is still going on. What we have done is be able to put more transparency. People thought that when they called 3-1-1 initially and when it 124 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. was deemed to be completed, that the car had been removed. There are laws that have to be followed with notice and also to be placing the placard up. And so within the Department, we have now streamlined our response. 3-1-1 is called, they then call -- notify the Police. The Police go out, they put the notice on the car. It is actually noted at that time to see where the car is. At that point, there is a timeframe that has to be followed. I think it's about three days that have to go by. If the car is still there, sometimes 3-1-1 would then get another call that says that the car is still there, because people think that you can just take the car immediately, and you can't. But after that time period is over and after the three-day period is over to five-day, then we end up towing the vehicle after the statutory time has been done. At that point, we now circle back to 3-1-1 to make sure that they know that the job has been 125 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. done. Whether it has been that the car is not going to be towed or it will be towed, we now have to close the loop to 3-1-1 so the citizen can be notified. So those things are still happening. We have seen an increase in the abandonment of cars again in the City. We have been looking at proposing legislation to Harrisburg to help with the transfer of title so that people just can't use the pinks anymore solely, that they would have to get it registered in order to make sure that we would know who the last owner is, because all that usually happens is that the pinks are used maybe three or four different transfers ago, then when the Police go back to the original -- or the owner that's on the title, they say that they got rid of that car a long time ago. So we're trying to propose to Harrisburg different ways of handling that, but the program itself in towing, we are still doing and we are now working 126 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. very closely with 3-1-1 to make sure that we close the loop that was opened at the beginning of this process.
And one of the things that we do in 3-1-1 is, when we get a call like this, we're careful to let the citizen know that there is this time delay because of the legal process, so that we're helping to get the information out about exactly how long it takes. That's helped as well.
The pink is the transfer of title issue. Usually when you end up transferring the title, you could actually write on the back of the title. When you go, usually you would have a pink form. That form could be filled out and just given, and people would keep those in the vehicle to show that they have transferred title, but then on the pink, you can actually transfer title again, and what happens, 127 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. what we're seeing, is these cars are being transferred again and again and again. We're also getting issues where people say they donated their car to various organizations that you might be aware of and all the sudden, those cars are appearing back out on the street and the owner is saying, I gave the car to XYZ Foundation, I don't know why it's back on the street, and they're disavowing any knowledge, and the only thing they show us is the fact that they said that they transferred the vehicle. So we needed to tighten that up. We've been looking at how to do that with legislation and we're trying to work with our state representatives, because it is a state issue.
Thank you, Madam Chair. 128 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Mr. Gillison, I just want to know, do you have any working relationship with the Parking Authority? DEPUTY
I mean "working" as far as eliminating this problem? DEPUTY
Oh, yes. We talk -- of the Parking Authority, I will actually say Deputy Mayor Cutler has a lot more of a working relationship, but I've been at a lot of meetings with the Parking Authority and we work very well together addressing not only this issue but whatever. You have to remember, Councilman, though, the Police have their own tow squad. So that's the one I'm really speaking to, what we're doing internally with the Police.
They don't seem to have as many, though, as the Parking Authority. 129 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. DEPUTY
And the Parking Authority is notoriously efficient when it comes to removing cars. DEPUTY
Would the Police Department be the only agency to tow these automobiles? Going back to Councilman Kelly's thought, that maybe the Parking Authority could be the agency that tows the cars. DEPUTY
Well, I know that the Police have jurisdiction over certain areas and the Parking Authority has jurisdiction on others, and I don't want to overstep, so I will get back -- I'll actually put together an outline for you and submit that to the Chair so the entire Council knows when one authority has the other and when the other one, because I don't want to speak out of turn at this time. 130 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I think it's state law. I believe it's state law, but I'll make sure in my response to the Chair.
While you're sitting there, because you were next -- DEPUTY
The Office of Reintegration, do you head up that department or do you have an Executive Director for that? DEPUTY
There is no Executive Director, although we are putting together a call at this time for an Executive Director. I hope to have 131 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. one in by the next fiscal year, but right now, the Chief of Staff of that has been running that department for the past year.
The Mayor's Office of Reintegration Services for Ex-offenders is now known as RISE. We provide direct services still in a couple of different areas; that is, in socialization skills. I guess that's the best way to say that. But for the most part, we've gone to a model of capacity building in other agencies, community agencies or non-profits or even for-profit companies. We have a relationship at the new center, just opened yesterday, at 11th and Market. We have a center for literacy collaboration. We have America Works, which is being paid through ARRA dollars, which is a rapid attachment to work, job developing area. We also have mentoring that we now 132 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. have contracted and provided services on site with our Mayor's Office on Faith Initiatives, working through four or five faith groups that are providing mentors to the ex-offenders. All of that is now housed at 34 South 11th Street on the sixth floor.
So at the end of the day, do you have any idea or statistics on the number of people who come through the program thus far -- DEPUTY
-- who have reentered but also who are working? DEPUTY
Yes. I can tell you that we went to this model beginning in July of 2008. We were looking for obviously dollars, because our dollars were beginning to slip away, and we had to cut a lot of things. Our primary way of dealing with it was through the Prison budget and trying to reallocate funds from the Prison budget 133 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. to make sure that we were able to give people the opportunity to get jobs. As you know, the Mayor's focus is get jobs for people and they will be able to correct themselves, or at least keep themselves in a corrective state. The idea has been that over the last year -- so if you go the last fiscal year, 2008 to 2009 -- I have at least 1,500 people that came through the doors. Those that actually stayed with the program were approximately 700, and of the 700, we were able to get them through the programs that were offered by our partners to get ready for jobs, and I think we placed over 375 in full-time and full-paying jobs. Those persons have a recidivism rate, which is obviously what I'm worried about, of less than four percent. We report on these things not only through the CJAB, which, when asked, this is one of the programs that I try and make sure people understand we are dealing with, but also to make sure that 134 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we put out this notice, and every time I go out or when the Mayor goes out, we talk about the successes we've had and trying to get more employers to actually hire the people once we get them ready and eligible to work in our program.
Thank you. Just a quick question for you while we have you. On these flash riots that are precipitated through electronic communication, sometimes Facebook, sometimes -- DEPUTY
I understand. "Riot" is a little strong. 135 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
You say tomato, I say tomato, but we'll go with your definition. Do we have someone within law enforcement that is monitoring Facebook, monitoring Twitter and, more importantly, is hip enough, if you know what I'm saying, to understand the secret language that these young people have? Because they've got abbreviations for everything and sometimes it goes over our head, but if we had someone that was adept to that jargon, we can anticipate where it's going to be and head it off the path. Because if 3,000 people know and we're sitting in here in City Hall clueless, we need to find someone with a greater understanding of that culture. DEPUTY
Well, thank you very much, Councilman, and believe me, I understand not only your question, but also I will agree with you that whenever 3,000 people show up at any one place, it's a problem, no matter how 136 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. you look at it, especially if they may or may not have ill will on their mind. Yes, we do have people that are monitoring, both in the Department and outside of the Department, monitoring these particular areas, but I have to emphasize that it's the nature of the electronic age that you almost have to be part of this inner circle to get that kind of communication directed to you. You're on Facebook. We have a number of Councilpeople here on Facebook. We monitor -- if you want to say just by looking at what you post, we monitor what you're posting.
We know you're looking at us, if you think we don't know it. DEPUTY
We also know that there are a number of people that once you are their friends, you could actually get into what they're also saying. And, yes, we do. We have that not only for all elements that make up 137 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. our rich society, young, hip, old, unhip, whatever you want to say. If you're out there, we're trying to monitor. The difficulty is is that you have to be able to be aware of what the individuals who are planning the event, which is usually, on a Twitter, account to account, and then it just passes virally through the numbers of friends that they have. What we've been trying to do through Anthony Murphy and Town Watch, through just our other partners that we use in the community, PAAN, for example, with our YVRPers, we want them to be part of our eyes and ears, and they are part of that process of alerting us as quickly as possible. People don't recognize that, but that's that kind of collaboration that we maintain as we go forward in this particular area. So the answer is, yes, we're doing it. It's just difficult to handle it because it's just the nature of the medium. 138 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Just as a friendly suggestion, you might want to reach out to the Youth Commission -- DEPUTY
-- to see if they might have a greater insight and understanding as to this difficult problem, because it is going to make it bad for all young people who want to have a wholesome good time, whatever that is, but as we start to have fear of young people because of their great numbers, we can probably head some of this off if we had greater intel into how that works. And I think that they're far more adept and equipped to understand the lingo than we are, and if you reach out to them, it might be a part of the solution. DEPUTY
I will take that, and I think that's an excellent idea. I think it's also important for them to be part of the solution.
Correct. 139 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. DEPUTY
To have them stand with and not only say, This is what's going on, but this is how we feel, and to be able to have them say to their peers, You are really damaging what we're trying to accomplish. I think that the Youth Commission could play an excellent role in that, and I will take that suggestion. Thank you very much.
Just finally, I don't know what percentage comes from outside of Philadelphia, but I would guess that there might be a surprise in there that you'll find a lot of people that aren't even from Philadelphia, they're from surrounding counties that view Philadelphia as a great place to let their hair down as opposed to the counties in which they reside, and we might want to just put a Post-it note on to finding out where they come from, and that might give us greater insight as well. DEPUTY
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to continue to go through some positions, but I'd like to sort of make an overarching point and respectfully ask the Managing Director and the Administration and the other departments to not fill positions while we're in the middle of this budget process. People are getting hired throughout the City. A couple people got hired by the IG's Office right before this process began. People are getting hired in the 3-1-1 Call Center. There are a couple other departments where they had just filled some vacant positions. And I know that we authorized those positions last year in the budget 141 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. process, but we also are facing a $500 to $700 million issue over the next five years and we're filling positions, and at least for myself, I'm not going to view any position filled in the last couple of months as filled. I'm going to view it as vacant in terms of trying to find savings, and I'd hate to have people start a job, be all excited and then be disappointed. If people haven't been doing or in a position for six, nine months -- the public has just told us that they think the level of service we're providing is as good as it's been in the recent Pew poll or a small percentage even said they think service has improved in the face of all these cuts. I just think as we go through this process, I find it frustrating to hear, yes, we have to raise taxes $180 million; oh, yes, we just filled those three positions. So my request is that we stop filling positions until we agree on a budget. 142 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. (Witness approached witness table.)
Madam Chair, Steve Agostini, Budget Director for the City. Councilmember, as I tried to point out when you asked for the information, the increment run that's in the budget was as of November or December, and we have been both holding and filling positions throughout that time period. I mean, the increment run is now almost five months old, and for many of the positions that have been held, there were instances when there were some critical functions that needed to be performed. I would just -- in today's situation, at any given time we probably had somewhere between six to 15 vacancies in 3-1-1 given the level of attrition, and while I have been holding positions in an effort to generate savings in the current year to address our budget, you can only do that for so 143 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. long in order to ensure yourselves you're getting the services done. So I just wanted to point out that we are -- there is no mass filling of positions in the days or so since 7 we began these hearings. It really is 8 the case that we've been doing that since 9 the increment run, which is, as I 10 mentioned to you in Council earlier, it's 11 an older number and it's a number that's 12 constantly in flux. 13
I completely 14 understand that. Somehow they're getting by, and I think we need to just continue to get by until we get through the process. So the past is the past. Whoever is hired is hired. From this point on, I'd like to try to keep our vacancies vacancies. Like a perfect example of that is the hiring in 3-1-1. I don't really understand, because there is a report that was prepared on 3-1-1 by The Pew Charitable Trusts. It said that in 144 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. December, the time waited -- the time waiting for a 3-1-1 call had shrunk from a minute 45 seconds to seconds. Now, 5 I think it's all right if people have to 6 wait 45 seconds instead of 18 seconds to 7 get on the phone. 8 Seventy percent of the calls 9 that come in to 3-1-1 are for general 10 information. If you simply have 11 something that says, This is a call for 12 general information, press 1, this is a 13 call for a service request, press 2, then 14 we can make sure we prioritize service 15 request calls and the general information 16 calls are going to have a longer wait 17 cycle. And in this kind of budgetary 18 environment, that seems like a reasonable thing to do. And I don't mean to pick on 3-1-1. It's just the latest example of people who are hiring in the face of asking City Council to raise taxes by $180 million a year.
Within the 3-1-1 145 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. operations, we are open five days a week, hours a day. We're also open on 4 Saturdays eight hours. 5
Right. What I was 8 saying, with the staff that we have -- 9 and also we have a Walk-in Center. 10 When we look at the actual 11 numbers that we need, of personnel that 12 we need, we need a higher number in accordance to looking at the actual workforce, but we are operating with a smaller amount of staff, but we're spreading that staff not only to answer calls, they're also handling walk-ins, they're also handling --
I'm just saying when it comes to staffing, it is looked at very critically as to whether or not we need that person on board.
Well, I 146 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. mean, let's face it, we've got people in 3-1-1 entering data, and then it goes to the department and they enter it into their separate department systems. So we're still entering -- 3-1-1 has created two data entries instead of one data entry the first time someone calls in to the City. So we are -- 3-1-1 has created an inefficiency in duplication of task that Dr. Barnett's original vision and Jim Kenney's original vision and my support for this didn't anticipate that. We haven't gotten there.
For example, with the Streets Department, when the information is sent over to that department for a pothole request, there is no manual entry that's required for that type of operation. There are a couple of organizations that they do when they get a request have to enter things manually, but we are moving towards automation. Like I said, the --
But even if 147 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. they put it in their separate system electronically, my understanding is it hasn't -- it doesn't -- you don't take the metadata from 3-1-1 and automatically put it in Hansen or put it in --
The 3-1-1 data and its interface with work order systems in the Department is different department to department, because some departments don't have a work order system and others have different ones.
So part of what we need to do and part of what will make us more efficient in 3-1-1 is to use the technology to really make that happen, and I think that will improve services without increasing the number of people.
So how much would we save if we just went back to the departmental numbers where people who sat in the department and took the complaint and the work order number entry system in 148 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the department, how much would we save if we just went back to that system until we built a truly automated system where there's one number that's the same number in 3-1-1, the same number in Streets, the same number in L&I, et cetera? So essentially if we close down the 3-1-1 Call Center and went back to people calling department by department, how much would we save in the interim while we're building the platform that we all originally envisioned?
I think it would be difficult to say that we'd save anything, and this is why: The previous system didn't have data that said what calls they were getting, how many were answered, how many were dropped. It would be impossible to do a performance comparison, because one of the things that 3-1-1 has done is to give us that data.
Well, I understand that, but I'm talking about in 149 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. terms of dollars, not in terms of performance. In other words, how much is the 3-1-1 budget?
It's 2.8 million for salary. So we'd save at least $2.8 million.
No, we wouldn't, because we'd have to reproduce that in the departments. If you'd like for us to do an analysis of what the different costs are and what would be the financial impact of dismantling 3-1-1, I'll be happy to give that to you. It's better than me trying to describe it off the cuff.
That's great. But my point is, there's still somebody in Streets who follows the work order flow and who follows the Streets Department number for work order flow, and that person used to answer the phone directly when people from City Council and others call. 150 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
No. Streets is not consolidated yet, so we get 3-1-1 calls on Streets, but Streets also gets calls directly. It's one of the places that has not yet been consolidated with 3-1-1.
Right. And even those places that are, there's often two sets of data entry, even if they're both electronic.
Okay. I'm looking to pick up pennies off the street, and maybe we need to take a step back and then really implement the full vision rather than go incrementally, and save money in the process or have money --
Well, I'll be happy to talk about that with you, because I think that it would be a real mistake to do that. So I'll be happy to explain why. 151 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I appreciate that. It's just that we're hiring people and we've got this report that says the wait time is seconds. And I think 6 people would be pretty patient, a little 7 more patient than that. And it says 70 8 percent of the calls aren't for services. 9 So those are on the same priority in 10 terms of answering as service requests, 11 and there's efficiencies still in this 12 system I believe if we prioritize those 13 calls and potential savings in terms of 14 personnel if you just look at the Pew 15 report. 16 The other statistic that I 17 found interesting is -- and this is 18 information from the Managing Director's Office. Actually, from Rosetta. 3-1-1 operators enter approximately 15 new requests per day on average. That's in an eight-hour day they handle 15 requests per person. How does that compare with sort of private-sector call center statistics? 152 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Those are -- let me clarify. Those are new requests for 4 service. Now, just like you stated, the 5 majority of our calls are for information 6 from the constituents. So some 7 constituents may call for a new request, 8 some may call for a follow-up on a 9 request they placed before, but the 10 majority of them are calling for general 11 information. 12
So what's 13 that mean? What happens when someone 14 calls for general information? 15
On a daily average, we receive about 3,500 calls a day. We do have a system in place where if you're calling for directory assistance and general information, the customer does have the option to press 1, and those calls -- like you're going through right now, we do segment those calls so they go to the right skill. If the customer doesn't make a choice or wants service requests, they 153 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. can press -- they just hold on and they'll get a person with the higher level skills to handle that.
So my question is, go through a typical general service request call for me.
Not request for service. I'm sorry. General information request.
Okay. A customer will be calling for the library hours, they're calling in for that. They can press one for general information. They will get an agent that will be able to verify the information in our knowledge base, look for the information, follow through with the customer, summarize --
Let me ask you a question. For a general information request, what process does the operator follow? Do they take the person's name? 154 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
No. For just general information, typically the customer does not want or the caller does not want to leave their name. They're just calling for --
If you just get through to the other line, what happens?
Oh, they'll end up going to -- just by not hitting anything at all, they'll end up going to an agent.
If it's a service request, they'll ask for contact information. For general information, 155 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. they don't.
What's the typical length of time for a general information request call?
Okay. What's your average call time for a service request?
For a service request, it's falling within that medium. So depending upon the type of request that we're doing, less than three minutes that they'll be talking to that customer.
So how many calls on average does a 3-1-1 individual handle?
It depends on season. Right now we are averaging about 100 calls per agent. Last month we had almost 200 calls that came into the Contact Center.
A hundred calls per person? 156 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Could you please break that down for me by month and give me some detail on that --
Okay. I think I've beat the 3-1-1 horse to death for now.
I'm getting e-mails now. In addition to 3-1-1, as District Councilpeople, we still get contacts from our constituents.
Yes. Well, that's a whole other 3-1-1 issue. 157 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. I did send 3-1-1 a bunch of questions, or the Managing Director's Office, which you were kind enough to answer in advance, so I won't go through them. There was one question related to that that I wanted to follow up on, and, that is, it appears to some members of my staff who have been to the 3-1-1 Call Center and seen what is on the screen and what information is available to a 3-1-1 operator in terms of status, all the different notes from the departments and stuff, that's information that we do not get in my office.
The Council staff, what they have is a profile that shows them certain types of information. There are different security levels, that as an agent, they may see the workflow, meaning the programming behind that service request.
Right. So why can't my staffers have that information, which would free up 3-1-1 158 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. time, because when people call us back after we've called 3-1-1 on their behalf, et cetera, we can't say this is where it is in the department, which is available on the screen of every 3-1-1 agent. Now, if you don't want us to be able to change data on there, set that security level, but actually we could take pressure off you because there would be less interaction with Council offices if we had direct access to the same data that your agents have access to.
That is not correct. I've seen the screen in the 3-1-1 or my staff has seen the screen in the 3-1-1 office and they've seen the screen in our office. There's a lot more information available to the agent.
What I was going to 159 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. say is that the resolution as to where the department is, we both have that same access. What is --
Yeah. That is not the information in terms of what is really happening, what the department has actually done. That is like status.
Right. What I was going to say is that what the agent may have -- and it's not in all the cases -- they have the actual business process map that the department is going through, which is what you're talking about. We can give that information to Council staff. So all what they're seeing is the actually mapping process.
We'd like the same exact data the agent has so that we don't have to call you.
Okay. That will save up 3-1-1 time as well. That way, we don't have to call people in 160 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. 3-1-1. I mean, there's four people who are on staff or three that are Council liaison kind of?
No. We have three, the Licenses and Inspections subject matter expert.
Okay. And if we had the same data, we wouldn't really need a liaison, because we'd have the same data.
Okay. Let me make sure I didn't forget to ask something.
Does that mean we're going to get the data or we'll have access or is that an, Okay, I hear you?
No. It's, Okay, I hear you, but it's also, Okay, we need to 161 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. get together after this to make sure that we're speaking the same language. If there's data that we have that you need access to, I'll be more than happy to give that to you. Again, what I was trying to get to is that what they're seeing on the screen is actually in some cases the process map detailed out in the system. We can give you that same data. We can give you that same information.
-- give it to us electronically? Giving it to us hard copy doesn't work. Giving it to us realtime so that we don't duplicate the phone call or triplicate the phone call is what I believe is at the heart of my colleague's request, and I concur a hundred percent, that if we could see where a pothole was in the loop of pothole process, it will alleviate us from having to call you to 162 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. do that.
Two quick questions. Last year's budget had three million in the MDO budget for, I think it was, street furniture fees. It was revenue under the title Strategic Marketing Fees, which I think last year's testimony said was sort of for street furniture. Is the concept of that street furniture and getting those strategic marketing fees dead? (Witness approached witness table.)
We can talk about street furniture. I'm not sure what the marketing fees that you're talking about. Is it market-based revenue opportunities? Is that what that is?
Last year's budget it was on -- sorry. This year's budget it's on .
It's market-based 163 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. revenue opportunities?
Original estimate is three million. Current estimate is zero. DEPUTY
I think -- I'm sorry. Rina Cutler. There are two different pieces here. I can speak to street furniture, but that is separate than the marketing-based piece the Managing Director referenced.
Right. The market-based revenue opportunities, we're showing a zero there because we're not at this time advocating that we have the advertisement on various public facilities and buildings that would bring in that revenue. So that's the reason it shows as zero this year.
And what was 164 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the decision-making process that -- is it possible to get that revenue? I mean, did we make a policy decision not to go after it or did we find the market doesn't want to advertise on our buildings?
Let me get you the specifics on what happened to that initiative and I'll provide that to the Chair.
Okay. Because, I mean, if it's possible to get the revenue, I'd like to see it --
-- given the current circumstance. And while you're there, Deputy Mayor Cutler, what's going on with street furniture? DEPUTY
Glad you asked, Councilman. We expect the RFP to be on the street this week and we are expecting to be in front of Council with 165 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. a contract in the fall.
We are anticipating revenue from that. Because the way the contract is -- the RFP is written, the people who are bidding on it will be giving us numbers for revenue. We do not at this point know what the market will bring back in. So we have not -- we cannot estimate what we think the revenue from it will be until we get back the responses.
Well, we can estimate with some degree of accuracy or some -- but we can estimate. Will it be a hundred thousand dollars? DEPUTY
I believe if I can -- you can just use the numbers 166 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. from the current contract, if you wish, to estimate. But we do not know the market -- the market itself is so significantly different, that it is very difficult to project, which is why we did not do so.
I know, but there's a lot of assumptions in the budget, and we're asking people to pay us more fees and taxes and -- DEPUTY
-- I'd like to offset that with as much revenue as possible, and if we can make a reasonable assumption about revenue, I'd like to see it reflected.
If I can respond to both the MBRO that you mention as well as the street furniture, I believe -- I'll start with the latter. The street furniture, we had estimates. I think two or three years ago, the City did move forward with what was a preliminary set 167 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. of estimates. The range from the firms that came back to us was something like two and a half to, I think, $20 million in terms of what might be available to us. When we arrived in this Administration, we took a hard look at that. We took a look at the pro formas, and we concluded that those were -- they just didn't seem to be real. And having done street furniture estimates in San Francisco that ended up with Decaux being hired to provide, as part of the street furniture, public toilets, the estimates that we had inherited when we walked in just seemed totally unrealistic and not grounded in reality. But with respect to the MBRO, we did have the MBRO and have had the MBRO revenue in the budget for a number of years at the $3 million level. We did go forward with an RFP. We did get some responses back on the RFP. What we realized from that was that the likelihood of realizing anything close to 168 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the $3 million was slim, given some of the assumptions that were built there. So I think we intend to proceed with the MBRO, but at this point, having any kind of placeholder for revenue also seems unrealistic.
Well, what did the responses suggest was a realistic figure?
I think it was all entirely subject to negotiation with what you would make available for advertising or for some form of that market base.
And based on negotiation, it just didn't seem clear. Needing to go through the RFP, needing to go through the negotiations, not understanding or at least being confident that those could get concluded in a timely manner to include in the budget, we just made a decision to set that 169 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. aside. We'll proceed, but having a revenue estimate based on that just seems very unrealistic.
-- and suggest that we have to include all possible revenue measures with some reasonable estimate. Even if $500,000 you are comfortable with, it's not unfair to ask you to provide that information to us so that we don't have to increase taxes by $500,000.
As I said before, we did have it. It was in the budget. It was in the budget for a number of years. At the time, we thought it was a realistic estimate. It never materialized.
Well, it sounds like we haven't done an RFP that the industry wants. It doesn't seem to 170 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. me that it's their fault. We need to put together a list of buildings and properties we're willing to allow them to use, send out an RFP and get bids. It will take us six months. Is the Administration undertaking to do that?
But the RFP, you just said, was not specific enough in that it did not say what buildings --
Well, as the Managing Director said, we can come back and give you, through the Chair, a description of what was done, give you a copy of the RFP, give you a copy of the responses or at least a summary of that, and you can draw your conclusions from that.
All right. I mean, so essentially what we're going to have to do, Madam Chair, is cut even where we think there's revenue because the revenue assumptions are not -- are 171 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. being -- I don't know how to put this. We're getting revenue numbers that are lower than we should reasonably expect them to be through certain initiatives, like street furniture, through advertising on buildings and stuff like that, and we're going to have to rely on the Administration to move expeditiously to bring those in in order to avoid the cuts that we put in. I guess we can do conditional things, if they get that revenue, they don't have to -- they have an additional appropriation in this department or that department. I don't know how else to hold them accountable to things like this. That's all my questions for now. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you very much. The Chair recognizes the Procurement Department. Is there anybody else to testify on this? 172 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. (No response.) MR. McPHERSON: The next department is the Procurement Department. (Witnesses approached witness table.)
Good afternoon. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Good afternoon. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Good afternoon.
Could you leave quietly, please. Would you state your name for the record, please. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Yes. Hugh Ortman, Procurement Commissioner of the City of Philadelphia.
Please proceed. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Good afternoon, Council President -- or excuse me; Councilwoman Tasco and other members of City Council. I am Hugh Ortman, 173 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Commissioner of the Procurement Department. With me today is Deputy Commissioner Mary E. Stitt. I am presenting for your consideration the Procurement Department's Fiscal Year 2011 budget request. The Procurement Department is requesting a total appropriation for all funds of $445,700,802, of which 4,238,000 is in the General Fund. The General Fund budget for Fiscal Year 2011 provides $2,423,253 for Class 100, payroll expenses, supporting 50 employees; $1,766,267 for Class 200, purchase of services; and $49,054 for Class 300 and 400, supplies and equipment. This budget is the same as the Fiscal Year 2010 projected obligations of $4,275,000, except for the transfer of $36,426 for IT consolidation. The Grants Revenue Fund budget provides $150,000 for Class 200, purchase of services, and the Water Fund budget provides $69,228 for Class 100, payroll expenses, for two employees. 174 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. The Procurement Department is comprised of three divisions. The Services, Supplies and Equipment Division centrally purchases products and services required by City departments to provide their services to the public, monitors the City's Class 300 inventory of supplies, accounts for personal property, and disseminates bid information to the public. The Public Works Division processes capital projects and concession bids, administers the citywide advertising program, and coordinates the inspection and disposal of City property. The Executive Division provides the leadership, management and direction of the Procurement Department. The mission of the Procurement Department is to obtain quality goods, services and construction in a timely, cost-effective and professional manner through a competitive, fair and socially responsible process in accordance with 175 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the law. The FY11 General Fund budget request should provide the resources necessary to accomplish this mission. The Procurement Department has a unique a role in City government in that our customers are the internal departments who need goods and services so that they in turn can provide goods and services to the citizens of Philadelphia. It is our job to find out what our customers need and provide it as quickly and efficiently as possible. To that end, the Services, Supplies and Equipment Division issued 210 bids in FY09, resulting in 356 contract awards totalling $91,567,000. For the record, it should be pointed out that in that last sentence, there is a typo in the distributed copies; 210 as read is the correct number of bids. These awards, coupled with contract renewals, mean that at any given time there are approximately 800 active Procurement contracts available for use. 176 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Also in FY09, 801 small purchase orders under $30,000 were also processed, totalling $5,210,754. By virtue of the solicitation process, the majority of these awards are made to OEO-certified vendors and other small businesses. In the last year, our Capital Programs Unit processed 116 bids resulting in 99 contracts worth $214,178,451. Of those, 44 contracts are ARRA funded, with a total dollar value of $146,898,133. In FY09, the Surplus Disposal Unit contributed over $750,000 to the General Fund, including 550,000 from an online auction contract for used vehicle and equipment sales and 150,000 from the direct sales of scrap metal. An additional 335,000 was deposited into the Water and Aviation Funds. The Procurement Inspections Officer works closely with the using departments and the Water Testing Lab to ensure that all supplies and equipment 177 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. meet the specifications as required in the awarded contracts.
The Inspections Officer certifies that materials meet specifications prior to contract award. Random follow-up inspections are also conducted throughout the entire contract to verify product quality. The Procurement Inventory Unit collects inventory data from all departments, issues tags for all 400 Class purchases, including the vehicles and equipment, and provides the Finance Director with consolidated inventory reports on an annual basis. The Department is also responsible to certify local business entities that may qualify for the five percent bid preference on contract awards. This effort is an incentive meant to encourage local vendors to get preference in bidding opportunities while continuing to have a base of operations within the City. The certification process involves verification that 178 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. applicants indeed have a bona fide location within the City and that all permits and taxes are current. Procurement works closely with the Office of Economic Opportunity and is committed to supporting the Administration's goal of a percent 9 minority, women and disabled-owned 10 business participation in City 11 contracting. While it is OEO that is 12 responsible to set and track 13 participation ranges on City contracts, 14 Procurement has an active role in helping 15 prime vendors meet those ranges and 16 ensure that OEO-certified vendors have an 17 opportunity to participate. At pre-bid 18 meetings, vendors are encouraged to seek 19 participation from M, W and 20 DSBE-certified vendors, and they're 21 introduced to certified businesses. 22 Procurement continues to partner with OEO 23 in training programs designed to educate 24 certified vendors about the bidding 25 process and contract opportunities with 179 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the City. The Economic Opportunity Cabinet, of which I am a member, meets with OEO on a regular basis to discuss just how the Department and the City should proceed in these efforts. Councilwoman Tasco, this concludes my testimony. I will be glad to answer any questions that you or the other members of City Council may have regarding my testimony.
Thank you very much. We'll go to the Councilmembers, then I'll come back. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Councilwoman, before we continue, my little hearing device that worked so well the last time is not working today, so my assistant, my Deputy, may have to -- I may have to ask for additional --
And we'll ask our members. The Chair recognizes Councilman Goode.
Thank you, 180 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Madam Chair. Good afternoon, Mr. Ortman. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Good afternoon.
In your testimony, you say Procurement works closely with the Office of Economic Opportunity, OEO, and is committed to supporting the Administration's goal of a percent minority, women and 12 disabled-owned business participation in 13 City contracting. What does that mean? 14 COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: That 15 means that myself, my Deputy and other 16 Department members go to any particular 17 function, whether it may be outreach to 18 minority vendors, to certified or 19 non-certified vendors, and try to get 20 them to sign up as registered vendors 21 with OEO so they can be made aware of 22 just how the City operates, what their 23 role may be, how they can receive 24 contracts, where to find the OEO 25 regulations, where to find the 181 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. application to become registered with OEO, that sort of thing.
The Administration set that percent goal, 6 yet the last few years it's only been 18 7 percent in terms of DBE participation. 8 What has actually changed after the Mayor 9 released the Strategic Plan for the 10 Office of Economic Opportunity in terms 11 of the procurement process? How has the 12 interface with your office changed or how 13 will it change? How, in reality, after 14 the plan was released has the procurement 15 process changed? 16 COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm not 17 sure the process itself would have to 18 change. We need more vendors to 19 participate to become registered so that 20 we can get better responses for the bids 21 and the subcontracting opportunities that 22 may go out there. 23
Are you sure 24 that's true? Our disparity studies have 25 consistently shown over the last two or 182 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. three years that participation could be percent to 28 percent, while we've 4 only been reaching 18 percent. So it's 5 my position that the capacity already 6 exists and has existed for several years 7 to reach 25 to 28 percent. That's what 8 our City's consultant, Econsult, has told 9 us, but we just haven't been reaching the 10 goal because it hasn't been that focused 11 on securing those opportunities or 12 identifying those opportunities 13 throughout the procurement process. 14 So I'm not sure it's a matter 15 of not having reached out to enough 16 vendors to build that capacity. 17 Obviously something has been going wrong. 18 And it's my understanding the Strategic 19 Plan calls for those people who were 20 focused on certification to now be 21 focused on involving themselves in the 22 contracting process. In fact, what was 23 said within that plan is that they would 24 be involved in the pre-bid process, 25 they'd be involved in the awarding 183 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. process, they'd be involved in the contract monitoring process and throughout every stage of procurement. Is that happening or is that not happening? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Your last sentence, that they would be involved in every stage of procurement, I'm not quite sure what you meant by that, but --
It's their plan, and as part of the Administration, I guess it's supposed to be your plan as well. Have you read the Strategic Plan? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Yes.
The Strategic Plan calls for OEO to be involved and OEO's staff to be involved -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm sorry. I thought you were referring to individual vendors. I'm sorry. Yes. The OEO is -- as soon as we get a bid ready, before it even goes on the street and before it's even typed, 184 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. it's submitted to them to let them know what's happening. Once the bids are -- they come to all our pre-bid meetings, of which there are ranges or goals in the particular bid. They explain to any of the vendors that are there, whether they're prime or subs, the process.
Do they have any sign-offs that have to occur throughout the procurement process? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm sorry, sir?
Do they have any sign-offs that have to occur throughout the procurement process? Does OEO have to give you a signature at any point in order for the procurement process to move forward? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Well, whenever we have a pre-bid meeting, everybody that's there signs in. We have a separate sheet for City employees. I'm talking about --
The way it's 185 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. been described in previous hearings and described some within the Plan, there would be a check-off in terms of the pre-bid process. There would be a check-off in terms of the contract award process. There would be a check-off at every stage of the process as an actual signature authority that OEO would have to have to make sure that at each stage of the procurement process there was an opportunity for OEO to be involved and to identify new opportunities for disadvantaged businesses.
Point of information. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: That particular official process is not in place at this time, no. 20
Speak into the mike, please. 186 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
In 1987 in the old procurement process, there was a signature required by the Minority Business Enterprise Council for it to be a valid contract, and the counter signature was the Controller's Office. I think my colleague may want to know is there an official signature required for it to be an executed contract? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm not familiar with that process, sir.
Thank you. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm not saying it's a bad idea. It sounds like a good idea, but I'm not familiar with it.
Actually, let me return to that in a second and very quickly. Of the dollars that you were requesting, how much is being used for purchase of services? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm sorry?
Purchase of services, Class 200. 187 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: The only involvement we have with professional -- you're talking about professional service contracts?
You have 1.7 million and you have a 150,000 figure. Which involve direct contracting from the Procurement Department? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: You're asking about the Class 200 purchase of services. Virtually all of that is for advertising, for mandated advertising, not just for Procurement, ours is relatively small, but any mandated advertising, for Sheriff sales, for City Commissioners. Virtually all of that money is for that.
So is there a DBE participation goal for that money? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: For advertising?
Yes. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We just contact the newspapers and put an ad in 188 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the newspaper. I don't know where we could have -- I mean, most of our -- all our ads go in the Philadelphia Tribune, but, I mean, there's no particular set goal.
You do realize this is not making sense to me, right? Why would there not be a goal for $1.7 million in advertising? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: All right. As I say, this is only for advertising, and advertising is mandated in certain newspapers. It's actually mandated for the Procurement in one of the top three paid circulation newspapers in the City.
I also understand that you use the Tribune because it's cost effective and that that number is a substantial number. I'm just asking, why would it not be identified as such in terms of goals set? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm afraid I can't answer that question, sir. 189 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. I'm sorry.
In terms of the 150,000 -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I mean, there's a lot of money here, I understand, but as I say, it's virtual advertising.
And there should be a goal set. Particularly if you're already utilizing the Philadelphia Tribune and you're already attaining a goal within that contracting, why not set a goal there? But my second question simply is, for the $150,000, what is that for, and is there a goal set for that? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I would defer to Debbie Beatrice on that one. Oh, I'm sorry. We have a contract -- actually, Finance has a contract with a company called Chartwell, who goes out and audits contracts that we have mainly for construction projects, because in the process of construction 190 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. projects, a lot of taxes are paid and incorrectly billed to the City. Chartwell goes out and gets that money back, and they get a percentage --
So you're saying you've identified the contractor for that? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm sorry?
You're saying you've identified the contractor for Fiscal Year '11? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Yes, but that's a professional service contract through Finance.
You've already identified a contract for Fiscal '11? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'd have to check with Finance. It may be. I'm not sure. 191 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
All I can say to you is that there seems to be a complete disconnect between the Office of Economic Opportunity and the Procurement Department. That can't happen in order for the Administration to reach its goal. It's not only clear in terms of the fact that there is no signature requirement throughout the contracting process, but the fact that even within the direct contracting being done by the Procurement Department, there are no goals set, nor does there seem to be any different system than there is in general, that people have gotten the contract before, so they will continue to get the contract, and that's just wrong. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I understand, sir, and the signature -- I assume that was some sort of a process that was in a regulation of some sort, fell by the wayside somewhere along the line. I don't know. I will look into --
It's 192 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. actually supposedly the Administration's plan, and I'll finish up very quickly. What they say is that they're going to take those personnel that were assigned to certification, they will then assign them to project managers, Procurement officials, throughout every department, where they have staff assigned there, and they would be involved in every stage of contracting, from beginning to end, and have signature authority at every stage, from beginning to end. That's how we would ensure that opportunities would be identified and secured for disadvantaged businesses. It's very clear that if the Procurement Department does not know about it or says it does not exist, then it is not real. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I will look into that.
It's also equally clear that there were not goals set even for Class 200 funds allocated to the Procurement Department directly. 193 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Madam Chair. To follow that line of questioning, during those years where the then Minority Business Enterprise Council had signature authority, there were the highest levels of minority and female participation in the history of this city. There is something to the signature authority, that a contract is not a contract until it is reviewed. So whatever we have to do to make sure that that process is changed so that it includes that, if that's a part of the plan, we support that. The second thing that I will ask you is, do you still classify all contractors under SID codes? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Say again. 194 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
SID codes. They're standard commercial, industry something or other acronym. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm familiar with the code, yes.
Do you still classify all businesses under those -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We use our own codes.
What -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: They were homegrown years ago, I guess, 15 years 14 ago. 15
My question 16 becomes, under each classification of 17 work, whether it's professional service, 18 procurement or equipment -- I mean public 19 works or equipment, can you give us an 20 aggregate change over your tenure by way of number of minorities in each of those categories? To further, I guess, expound upon the point of the potential of 24 percent, if you have more structural 25 engineers, then there is a greater 195 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. probability that one of them will get a contract opportunity. So if you have categories of work that have seen an increase in minority businesses, increase in growth in female businesses, it is our expectation that the needle should move a little more in the right direction by way of inclusion and participation if discrimination does not exist. So we'd like that information to say we have 12 more architects than we had a year ago. 13 We have 30 more engineers. We have 14 people who provide various types of 15 marketing and public relations. So by 16 SID codes -- that's what we used to call 17 it -- we want to see those categories to 18 see if, under Councilman Goode's premise, 19 there is an increase in those areas. 20 Second thing that I think -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Can I comment on that first, Councilman? We try to anticipate some questions that you would have for OEO. That's one that's absolutely OEO. We don't have the answer 196 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. for that. We don't even have, to my knowledge, the ability to gather that information. OEO would have to have that. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: The commodities that the Office of Economic Opportunity vendors would be certified under would be housed by the OEO. We will be happy to contact them and get that information and see if there has been an increase from last year to this year. With the new Strategic Plan in place, I would hope that we can also make a comparison next year since their process has now been changed, and does that then affect the increase in those commodities.
All right. It is our expectation that there is a teamwork that has now begun to happen. So, therefore, if they have the information, you should have the information for utility purposes, if nothing else. 197 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Sure.
So that is our expectation. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We'll get it for you. We just don't have it.
All right. The idea that you're going out under requirements contracts right around now to find out the expectation and purchasing habits of requirements contracts for next year, so if you are buying pencils under a bulk contract -- DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: It's about six to nine months ahead of time.
So we should be right now in the process of determining those levels of participation, correct? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: That is part of the process.
So the information about who is available for 198 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. work is essential in that methodology. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Each of those contracts go up to OEO. Every contract that we let or every contract that we put out for bid goes to OEO first. They review it. I believe they put a process together and an evaluation. They analyze who is available for that, and that's how they then set the range.
Point of information. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: It then comes back down to us --
I'm not trying to be funny, but you said a whole lot in terms of what the process is. Have they ever verified to you that's the process? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I'm 199 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. sorry?
Have they ever verified that to you, that that's the process, or has the same number appeared in those contracts in terms of participation goals? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I would have to look at each of the contracts.
I would venture to say that the same number has appeared in those contracts in terms of participation goals. The number is not real and that it's based upon no process whatsoever. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: And all I can say to that is that we rely on the Office of Economic Opportunity and their expertise in that area.
Or lack thereof. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: They receive every individual bid, as I mentioned before, before it goes on the 200 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. street so that they can apply the ranges to it. That is -- actually, that's a sign-off. They sign that. They also -- there is a review when the bid comes back that if it has goals, that has to be reviewed by OEO prior to any award whatsoever. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Absolutely. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Matter of fact, it will sit on the desk until they come back with their determination. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: So even though there may not be an authorized signing, the process that you were referring to in the past, it can't move without OEO's review and assessment. It will not go into the street. And if they have assessed goals, it will not be awarded until they have made a determination.
Point of 201 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. information. Councilman Goode.
If everyone knows the number is the same, if everyone knows the number is not based upon any analysis or evaluation, if everyone knows the contract is going to eventually move anyway, then it's just a matter of someone calling over and saying, Put that number in the contract. If no one is reliable for checking whether it's a real number or if no one even cares whether that number is actually met, then what you're talking about is a process that has not worked, which is why clearly disparity studies show that there's a capacity for percent to 28 percent 18 participation but there has been less -- 19 it's been around 18 percent 20 participation, and the reason why that 21 number has been flat for a few years is 22 because there's no new work being done in 23 terms of evaluating what those goals 24 should be. And the truth of the matter 25 is, luckily, we do have an annual 202 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. disparity study that's required under the Philadelphia Home Rule Charter that actually tells us that the capacity in public works contracting and the capacity in professional services contracting has risen. Therefore, the participation should rise. All I'm going to say to you is that if you go back and do an examination and you find that those numbers have been the same and flat for several years, you should report that back to this Council. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: And we'll be happy to do that, sir.
I'm sorry. I apologize. Councilman Jones had a point of information, which threw him out of sync, so he now goes on his own.
Just 203 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. quickly --
Which pushed you under Councilwoman Brown. So don't be saying point of information.
I think if you follow the general line of this back-and-forth questioning, we don't want, after two years, for the silos to still exist. Although they're a separate department, they need to be integrated into your process, because I can guarantee you when we start talking about operating -- when we come back a little later, we are not going to want to hear about how it was their job. We have an expectation that the department heads talk to the Procurement people, who talk to OEO, and at the end of the day, the needle moves to the right. You have, in my estimation, a best-case scenario. You have a former Procurement Commissioner who is now 204 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. responsible for OEO. It doesn't get much better than that. When those participation levels were at their highest is because there was a back-and-forth communication, that I didn't have to wait and figure out where the opportunities were. They were put in front of me and say, Hey, what do you think about this, and do we have enough participation to create competition in order for there to be a market for minorities and females. My point to you is, take advantage of that, because at the end of the day, it is the numbers that will resonate in our minds. And you are to us all one team, the departments, the OEO, the Procurement Department, the City, and where the businesses out there that are relying on you to make sure that there is no discrimination, they paint all of us with the same brush. So we need to get in a huddle and get the team thing going on so that 205 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. everybody is on the same page, and that is our expectation. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I think I will move to Councilwoman Krajewski's chair just for probably -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I appreciate that.
You're welcome. Thank you, Madam Chair. Is that better? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Good.
So we've looked at the potential reductions that you've put forward, and it looks like we can save $181,000 in Class 100 spending by eliminating one full-time equivalent position, backfill DROP positions with 206 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. employees receiving lesser salaries, delays in hirings and lump-sum payment reductions. What full-time equivalent position did you give the Budget Office information that you could eliminate? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I don't know if it's actually eliminating. We're actually consolidating. We're going to take one person that's already in the position and move him or her into a position as a supervisor, but continue to do the work that they're already doing. So there will not be -- it's going to be -- DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: It will be streamlining. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Streamlining is what you want to call it.
But that's not currently part of your budget proposal, is it? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: It's all -- there's a whole combination of 207 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. things in our budget proposal that could probably be better explained by --
Well, let's just go through it. For each department, I asked how long positions have been vacant, if there are vacant positions, what specific job duties will be fulfilled by that position and how those job duties have been handled while the position has been vacant. So Procurement's budget detail indicates several positions are either new or have been vacant for an extended period of time and are budgeted to be filled. Starting with the 70,000 per year Chief of Staff, which is a new position, what are the duties of this position? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Could you repeat that last question?
I said it's a new position and what are those duties? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: He supports the Deputy Commissioner and the 208 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Commissioner in various strategic initiatives.
So who has been performing these functions in the past? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We have tried to do it between the Deputy and myself and it's become overwhelming. And we did have a Purchase Manager, who has finished his four years of DROP just within the last couple of weeks, and we're anticipating this will cover -- his position will cover this position for a certain period of time anyway.
What would happen if we didn't have the Chief of Staff position, if we cut it? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: As I said, the work that's been coming with the daily operations with the PhillyStat, 209 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. with all the training and development that has to be going on, we just are becoming overwhelmed to try and do it on our own.
So if you didn't have to go to PhillyStat meetings, you wouldn't need the position? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Oh, no. 10 I'm saying that's just one of many, many things. Reporting the -- just gathering data. The person in this position is excellent at that. He's excellent at doing the reports.
So this position is filled already? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Yes.
It was not authorized in last year's budget. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I have to ask Debbie Beatrice that question. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: No, it was not. Yes. We consolidated. We had a position that was going to be filled, one particular Purchases Manager 210 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. position. That was going to be filled. At this time, that is being paid out of class. It was a supervisor who has moved up.
What does "paid out of class" mean? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: That means that they're covering the position temporarily and being paid on a level that if they were in there permanently. That supervisor position is now open, and that's how we were able to move the money so that we could add analytical capacity to our department. We needed to add analytical capacity to our department. We have been part of a very large reform agenda with the Managing Director's Office. We are trying to become much more efficient, moving to -- we're sophisticated to some extent in our purchasing. Actually, we're pretty sophisticated in our purchasing. However, we are trying to move to become more automated. We are 211 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. looking at alternative purchasing options. So those are the type of strategic initiatives that we needed support in, driving those projects so that we will be able to have results.
The second new position appears to be an Administrative Technical Trainee at 31,000 per year. What are the job duties of this position? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We currently have percent of our staff in 14 the DROP program. So we will be 15 losing -- that's not counting the two we 16 just lost two weeks ago. So we're going 17 to be losing people periodically over the 18 next couple of years. Administrative 19 Trainee comes in at a much lower salary 20 and sooner or later learns those jobs and 21 moves up the ladder, but while we're 22 trying to prepare for the future, this is what an Administrative Trainee would do. As we lose technicians that are much higher salary, we bring people in at that 212 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. level to become trainees. That's why it's an Administrative Trainee. And they will learn the job, and they'll be replacing a much higher-salary person for that time period up until four, five years from now when they reach that bracket.
The budget detail shows several vacant positions in Procurement, including a Clerk III in supply management inventory and supervisor in public works. Starting with the Clerk III, has that position been filled? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: No, it has not.
Who has been performing these duties? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: The supervisor mostly and there is another staff member that has probably taken over some of that. The impact has been a slowdown of our process, which is actually going in the total opposite way 213 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. of what our goals are. It's actually to become more efficient. However, we have been covering it because that's what we need to do at this time. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I should point out, Councilman, that in the FY08 budget, we had 62 General Fund positions and now we're down to 50. So we've been consolidating quite a lot over the last couple of years.
I understand. We're moving towards an electronic purchasing platform, right -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I understand.
-- where you won't have to do most of the back-up work that is done by the 50 people, right? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: That's correct.
So rather than replacing people who are leaving, even with lower-priced positions, why don't we just accelerate the rollout of 214 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the electronic purchasing platform? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I would love to know how to do that. We're trying the best we can.
Well, you're not responsible for that rollout. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We're working with DOT. We've been in meetings on quite a regular basis. I know they've done a lot of work. We've done a lot of work. Mary has done a lot of work. Our Chief of Staff has done a lot of work. It just takes time to get these things through. One problem we have, to be honest with you, with our procurement process, it's so far actually advanced, not technology-wise but in detail-wise, than in other cities and other locations that trying to get something off the shelf is just not going to work, because they don't do the things that we've been doing for years. And we have -- as I say, it's manual. So we're trying to get 215 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. something together where we can do it technology-wise or we're going to have to build it ourselves.
Well, I don't agree with that at all. We never have to build anything ourselves. We may have to modify something -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We're trying to do that, too. Just our commodity codes alone --
But we should not be hiring programmers to build our own programs that only the City of Philadelphia knows how to manage. We need to buy -- we need to use our Oracle Business Suite that we have a license for, use their eCommerce platform, and we can have a product out very quickly. If not, there are companies that integrate -- if we put out an RFP for a solution describing your process, we'd have three bids in three months. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: There is an -- 216 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Or nine bids in six months. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: We are in the process of looking at all that and --
So why don't we just tell the market what our problem is and ask for bids or even do an RFI rather than try to come up with internally in lots of meetings, meetings with the DOT --
Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. I wanted to continue with the line of questioning raised by Councilman Goode just to make sure I understand all that I 217 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. heard.
Councilwoman, would you please speak into the microphone. It would be very helpful.
Okay. I do want to continue with the line of questioning raised by Councilman Goode. Did I understand you to say that you do not have an adequate vendor list or enough vendors on your list? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Our vendor list is quite extensive. It's the OEO-registered vendors that we need to really expand on. That's what we're trying to do. We're working with OEO just to do that, and that's why they changed their certification process, in order to help that along as well.
And what ways have you discussed with OEO how they can expand their registered vendor list? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Well, changing the certification process was 218 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. one of them we discussed with them, and as I mentioned in the testimony, we will attend any functions, whatever they ask us to come to. We actually send our Procurement Commission Supervisor from public works to -- he goes out to our Spanish-speaking groups to meet with them.
Then what's the interface with the chambers, like the African American Chamber, the Hispanic Chamber, the Asian American Chamber, where you have a captured audience of members who are hungry for opportunities with the City? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We'll attend any function that we hear about. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Recent --
What I'm asking, what is the in-house strategy, plan of action that you take the initiative to execute with regards to local chambers? Is there any strategy or 219 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. thinking given to the value of connecting with the local chambers to help Procurement and OEO raise the numbers of registered vendors? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We do connect with them, but it is all coordinated through OEO.
Okay. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We absolutely connect with them. As I said, OEO attends the Spanish-speaking chamber functions himself and he brings information from both public works and he brings it from SS&E so that he can pass this around and get the information to the people.
Did you want to add something? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Yeah. Just recently we attended a function at the Enterprise Center. Councilman Jones was there. The Managing Director was there. I believe that the Mayor also attended. 220 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Councilwoman Blackwell was there. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Councilwoman Blackwell. And if I have forgotten anyone, I do apologize. There were several departments, if not almost all departments represented. A one-hour workshop was done by myself and the Professional Services Department showing how do you do business with the City in Philadelphia. We went through step by step how our website works. We went through what's a competitive bid, what's a non-competitive bid. It was well attended, to the point that I believe one is being scheduled in April. It may be at the Convention Center. I have not gotten the details on it, but the Enterprise Center may not be a chamber, but it's community outreach.
Oh, absolutely. They are a valuable link in that whole equation. So have you been able to 221 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. measure the yield of that effort? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I haven't, but I have a feeling that the department -- the Budget Department actually brought this together and it was focused on American Recovery and Reinvestment funds. So I would have to find out from them.
Okay. I just want to try to get another question in. How many Procurement officials are there, period? I think I understood you to say there is a Procurement official in each City department, correct? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: They are what we call Procurement Specialists.
Okay. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: And they're in certain departments, mostly the larger ones.
Such as? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Water, Streets. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Water, 222 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Streets, Fire, Police.
And in those departments where there is not an identified Procurement official, who handles that duty in making sure that this entire OEO issue is adequately addressed? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm afraid I can't answer that question. I don't know.
So then that underscores Councilman Goode's assessment that the disconnects still exist. Would that be fair to say? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Again, I would ask -- I think we'll have to go back and call OEO and talk to them to see what they know about those particular functions as well, because I know everybody -- the OEO is strongly involved right now with departmental involvement in all the bids, much more so than they have been in the past, and this is before the new Director took over. They've 223 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. actually brought in every department, talked with each department on various one-on-one about what their goals were, how they were going to get them reached and so on. It's an ongoing process and it absolutely has increased greatly over the last year.
What has increased? The interface between those two offices? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: The interface between the departments and OEO and the function of the departments when it comes to goals and participation ranges.
Who does the contracting ultimately in those departments? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Each department has their own contract administrator. It depends again on what the contract is for. I'm sure that they would have one for supplies, one for services basically. I can't really tell 224 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. you.
So it remains, at least for me, a mystery on how OEO and the various departments are interfacing and meeting the objectives of the Strategic Plan, of the new Strategic Plan that's been released by the Mayor for OEO. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: My understanding, if I may, is that there is a contact in every department for the Office of Economic Opportunity where they review everything.
We don't doubt that there's contact, but what Councilman Goode has been attempting to underscore is, what does that -- define "contact," and that's where there's a blur. So we'll have to look forward to the testimony from the Office of Employment Opportunity. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Councilman Goode. Point of information. 225 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Just a point of information. At the end of the day, OEO doesn't do any contracting; is that correct? They don't do the contracting? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: No. 8 COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Unless they have professional services contracts.
But in general, the contracting you're referring to and the contracting process you're referring to is done by the departments themselves, so the departments are ultimately responsible for that contracting? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Yes.
So every time we ask a question about participation, it doesn't make much sense to point to OEO. Although they're supposed to have some involvement and their involvement is supposed to be 226 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. beneficial, at the end of the day those departments do the actual contracting and have to be held responsible for that accounting. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: The departments do their own professional service contracts. They do not do the supply, service, equipment or anything that has to do with that particular purchase.
OEO does next to nothing. Between the Procurement Department and the departments themselves, that's where the contracting actually occurs. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Could you repeat that one more time, sir. I'm sorry.
I said between the Procurement Department and the Procurement Specialists within the various departments, that's where the contracting actually occurs. It's not actually OEO doing the contracting. 227 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Most of our contracts are citywide contracts, so we involve all the departments. What each individual department does as far as contract management, unless there's a problem, we don't usually get involved. If there's a problem, we jump in to solve it. So I'm not sure if I'm answering or even hearing all of your question, but each department is responsible for their own contract management.
Exactly. And the point is simply that OEO does not do contracting, so OEO cannot be ultimately held responsible for contracting. That's my simple point. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm not sure what OEO does with the departments. I can't speak for them.
You're not sure what OEO does with departments in terms of contracting? 228 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I'm not sure on a day-to-day basis what they do. I mean, they're meeting with them on a regular basis, as I explained about two or three minutes ago. What type of recording they're requiring, what type of records they're -- what kind of reports they're requiring, that I'm not familiar with.
Commissioner, you're saying that each department lets professional services contracts. They do not go through the Procurement Department at all? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: They come through the Procurement just for an approval, which means we basically, Deputy Commissioner and myself, can review them to make sure it's not something that should not have been done through professional services or that there's not a current contract in place 229 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. that we're aware of through Procurement. Our part is relatively small because -- the Law Department does the same thing, the Finance does the same thing, but it does go through our approval path.
But not for minority participation or any of that? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: No. No, ma'am.
But that rests with the department. Each department is supposed to identify participation on those contracts? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: I don't want to give you a wrong answer. My understanding is, though, that they do go -- same as our contracts go to OEO before we put them on the street, my understanding is that the same thing happens with professional services.
Or should happen. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Excuse 230 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. me?
Or should happen. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Or should happen, yes.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll get back to electronic procurement. I just want to hit another position. Inventory Supervisor, has that position been filled? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: No, not as yet.
How long has it been vacant? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: That's the consolidation of we're expecting to take a current employee, put them into that position and not replace the current employee.
Does that 231 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. create a vacant position in your budget that's not reflected in your budget detail? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: No, it does not, sir.
Madam Chair, while they look for that, I have a request to make of our witness.
Okay. So I'm looking at the budget detail and I see Inventory Supervisor was not filled in '09, but was there -- or at least it's in -- maybe it wasn't there, but Fiscal '10 budgeted positions it is now expected to be filled. Who in this budget detail is filling it? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: There's a test to be given. We don't know yet. We don't know which one of the positions involved that we currently have will be 232 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the one that's selected for the job.
Okay. But -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: It's one of three people.
-- you are going to eliminate the position of the person who is selected for the job, right? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: That's our intention at this point in time.
But that's not what you're budgeting for. (Witness approached witness table.) COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: This is Debbie Beatrice from the Administrative Services Center.
What the Commissioner is talking about is, you're absolutely right, that position is not shown as a cut in Fiscal '11 budget. What the Commissioner is talking about is it was part of the plan if the department 233 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. was subject to any cut.
So basically you wouldn't fill -- as part of the $181,000 that you provided to the Budget Office, this would be one of the things that was done?
Okay. And the full-time equivalent position that you would cut as part of that $181,000, who was that?
That would have been either the Surplus Disposal Officer or the Inspections Services Officer, because they would both be vying for the supervisor position, and then that one position would have been cut.
And those cuts that you sent the Budget Office are not reflected in your position count here?
Okay. Thank you. 234 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. There's probably at least $200,000, Madam Chair. Let's get back to electronic procurement. Could you please -- and I'm not going to go through it now because it would take us forever -- put down on a piece of paper for me exactly how -- basically how you want an electronic procurement system to work, and I'll undertake to find you a commercial off-the-shelf system that does it. Could you estimate how many hours you've spent over the last year, because I know we talked about electronic procurement last year, how many hours you spent over the last year meeting with DOT or meeting with some other department or the MDO's Office or in PhillyStat or some other thing talking about getting to an electronic procurement system or meeting about it or writing memos about it? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Lots. I'll admit to that.
Would it be 235 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. six or eight people ten hours a week? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I wouldn't think it was that high, not ten hours a week, and I'm not -- I don't think that the volume of people --
Six or eight people five hours a week? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Possibly on average.
So basically one full-time equivalent position just still talking about it and we haven't gotten anywhere? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: We've gotten -- DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: We've actually gotten very far. When we started this process, we didn't even have requirements in place. We have requirements in place now. We know what we want. Before we didn't even know what we --
Well, my fear is that often when departments put 236 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. together requirements, what they do is think about their existing workflow processes and how they do things today rather than sort of look at what's available and figure out how they could change their workflow processes. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: We've actually done both of these analogies.
And do you have written material on that? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I'm sorry?
Do you have written material on that? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: We do have written material. I would have to check with DOT to see where it's at. However, we have looked at it. We had to know --
That is great. If you would forward to the Chair all written material you have on the issue of electronic procurement, we can 237 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. move on.
The "Chair" meaning President Verna. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: No 6 problem. Thank you.
Last year's budget hearings you may recall some questions I asked that I have not yet received the answers to. One question related to the cost of mailing bid announcements. My understanding, that 5,000 bid announcements are mailed each year, and I've asked for the cost of doing so, including staff time broken down by department, supplies, postage, et cetera. Do you have this information? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: The staff time I would have to work with someone to look at, but you are right when it comes to the number of bid announcements that are sent out, and they are sent out with regular postage. So we can come to that number, which is probably around the $10,000 mark for 238 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Calendar Year 2009.
It's the staff time I'm concerned with. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: The staff time, I would have to work on that.
How many people in your office basically work on that? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: One. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I would say one.
One sends out 5,000 packages? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Well, the mailroom actually mails them out down in the basement of MSB.
So you have one full-time person doing mailing, essentially preparing -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Handles the entire mailroom, incoming, outgoing, deliveries to various departments and so on. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: 239 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. That's not their only responsibility.
Now, the second question was about moving to an online system for vendor performance reports, something you noted would yield efficiency gains and also allow for easier and better review for past performance data when considering new bids. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: That would go into the eProcurement process.
And that's part of your requirements? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: That is part of our requirements, absolutely.
I'll look for that when I get that material. Still following up on a question from last year, the projected staff change if all Procurement was electronic. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I 240 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. don't know we would have that information at this moment.
Would you like us to make the investment to make -- DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Absolutely. I would.
Well, for me to support that, I want to know -- DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Sure. That would be part of our analysis. We just haven't gotten as far as that to be able to provide very solid information to make sure that our estimate is correct.
How much staff time is currently spent on data entry related to paper forms? DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: I don't have an estimate of that.
If you could prepare that and send it to the Chair. These are questions I asked last year, so -- DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: And 241 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. we did --
Councilman, if you asked these questions last year so we can go to lunch, could you just give them the list, please, and let them answer them again?
I could. The Operating Budget in Brief indicates a significant increase from 88,000 in FY10 to 298,000 in FY11 in revenue generated by the Procurement Department for master bid bonds. My guess is the increase was related to ARRA-funded projects, but I wanted to confirm. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Well, there were 44 of those. So that would account for a pretty good number. I don't have the exact number. I do know it was 44 ARRA public works bids.
Your testimony indicates the Procurement Surplus Disposal Unit contributed over 750 to the General Fund in FY09, 242 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. including 550 from an online auction contract for used vehicle and equipment sales and 150K from the direct sale of scrap metal. The Operating Budget in Brief shows 554K in other revenue from the Procurement Department. Is this the online auction contract revenue? COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Five hundred and some thousand?
Five hundred fifty-four thousand. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: It should be. This is done more -- this is for FY09 reports that I have. The online vehicle auction, $706,345 for FY09. That includes equipment and vehicles -- I'm sorry. That figure is vehicles. There's additional equipment that was sold, including tires. There was the fire boat that was sold for 25,000, aluminum poles, 6,850 and so on. So that would be -- that sounds like the right number.
If you don't 243 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. have the answer right now, if you could just get back to me as to exactly what the 554 was in the budget brief in other revenue from the Procurement Department. You don't know that that's specifically what you're referring to. It sounds like you're referring to a higher number than 554. So also -- COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: There were performance bonds, there's bid security, there is bid bonds. Well, bid bond is not a financial asset in our account, but --
If you'll just get back to us with the detail, and I will save the rest of my questions that came from last year and get them to you via e-mail. Thank you. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Thank you. 244 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Thank you. Is anyone else here to testify on this department? (No response.)
Thank you very much for your testimony. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Thank you.
I would suggest that you please next year answer these questions. DEPUTY COMMISSIONER STITT: Yes, ma'am. Thank you. COMMISSIONER ORTMAN: Thank you.
Okay. We don't need a third year without them being answered. We will break and come back at 2:45. Thank you. (Luncheon recess.)
The Committee of the Whole is now back in session. Thank you. 245 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. We will now hear from the Division of Technology. (Witness approached witness table.)
Please identify yourself for the record and proceed with your testimony.
Good afternoon. My name is Allan Frank, the Chief Technology Officer for the City. And now I'll read my testimony. Good afternoon, Council President Verna and members of City Council. I am Allan Frank, Chief Technology Officer for the City of Philadelphia. I am pleased to provide this testimony regarding the Division of Technology's Fiscal Year 2011 Operating Budget request. Fiscal Year '10 has been a challenging and exciting year for the 246 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Division of Technology. On July 6, 2009, Mayor Michael Nutter signed an Executive Order consolidating all of the City's IT functions, personnel and infrastructure in the Division of Technology. With the enactment of the Executive Order, we have spent much of the year working with departments involved in the consolidation to work out the specifics regarding IT personnel, budget transfers and learn as much as possible regarding the departments and their IT needs in order to further improve service provisions. DOT's major objectives are to provide reliable information technology infrastructure and efficient and cost-effective application solutions for City operating units, to provide innovative solutions to City agencies through strategic planning, centralized oversight and project management, and to efficiently support City agencies through of the data center, help desk and IT network. These initiatives support our 247 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. three-pronged strategy to enable high performance government, provide a secure and stable IT operating environment and reduce costs. As a result of the consolidation of the Public Property Communications Division in Fiscal Year '10 and the consolidation of 28 departmental IT budgets included in the Division of Technology's Fiscal Year '11 budget request, the Division of Technology's all-funds budget request for Fiscal Year '11 totals $124,842,042, which includes 366 employees. Of this total, $67,432,032 is in the General Fund, including 283 employees; $16,855,025 is in the Water Fund and includes 79 employees; $6,294,985 is in the Aviation Fund and includes four employees; and $34,260,000 is in the Grants Fund, mainly to support 9-1-1 related operating and capital expenditures, as well as the PGW Digital Orthoimagery and UASI grants. 248 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. In addition to the 366 employees and $124,842,042 included in our Fiscal Year '11 budget, there are seven mainly grant-funded departments which will operate under Memorandums of Understanding to govern approximately 102 additional IT employees and an estimated $17,279,591, for a grand total of $142,121,633 and overall 468 employees. Fifty-seven IT employees working for independently elected officials and their IT budgets, which total 5,547,000 will not be part of the consolidation. The consolidation of information technology will help us to better coordinate operations through the consolidation of common IT support functions and rationalization of staffing, reduction in equipment such as servers and printers and their associated operating costs, rationalization of purchasing and efficiencies in professional services, automation and simplification of processes and 249 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. improvement in cross departmental communications, collaboration and information sharing. All of these initiatives will allow us to better and more efficiently serve our customers, the citizens of Philadelphia, and departments that they do business with. Two examples of the Division's accomplishments for Fiscal Year '10 include working in conjunction with the Commerce Department and other City agencies, we've completed the first phase of the Business Services Portal Project and initiated the second phase in order to simplify and automate processes for business owners to open or expand businesses, ultimately making it easier for customers to do business with the City.
Phase 2 is scheduled for completion next month, and we will add additional functionality, including interactive components and the ability for online application processing. This 250 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. project promotes the Mayor's goal of creating jobs by making it easier for small businesses to set up shop in the City. As part of an ongoing effort over the past year, DOT has focused on eliminating redundant IT infrastructure, including servers. Thus far, we have eliminated 111 servers, saving approximately $333,000 on an annual basis. Through this continuing initiative, we anticipate identifying additional savings, especially in the areas of server virtualization, communications and Enterprise-wide platforms for certain services. The Division of Technology is committed to supporting the Administration's goal of percent 21 minority, female and disabled-owned 22 business participation in City 23 contracting. The Division of 24 Technology's Fiscal Year '11 25 participation goal, I'm happy to say, is 251 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. 35 percent, up from an anticipated 25 percent target for Fiscal Year '10 and an actual of 20 percent in Fiscal Year '09. As we move into the next fiscal year, we look forward to continuing to work with the City departments in support of all of the Mayor's priorities, particularly that of reforming government to work better and cost less. In combination with our Fiscal Year '11 $25 million Capital Budget request, the consolidation of IT in the Operating Budget will well position the Division of Technology to carry out the Administration's goal of reforming government in the coming years by allowing us to set citywide priorities and achieve savings through economies of scale. This concludes my testimony. Should any Councilmember wish to further discuss any of the matters outlined in my testimony, I would be happy to answer questions now or would be glad to meet 252 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. with you individually at your convenience to further discuss any suggestions you may have for how we may work together to improve government through the use of technology. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Greenlee.
Thank you, Madam President. Good afternoon, Mr. Frank. Just a couple of quick questions, if I could. One, are you working at all with the Board of Revision of Taxes on their issue and the whole trying to get their records together? Has there been any working relationship there?
And so this whole change they're doing, you're 253 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. working with them on that?
The other issue -- and I know the Records Department is coming up next and we still have some issues with fraudulent deeds and that kind of thing, but what is your working relationship with them as far as have you been working with them at all on that kind of issue, the fraudulent deed issue or the real estate transfer tax, that kind of thing?
I have not specifically been working with them on those two issues, though I work with the Records Department in a number of areas as it relates to their systems and, in particular, moving forward as we move to automated records and documents across the City.
Okay. 254 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. All right. Well, I'll bring up the rest with the Records Department. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Madam President.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilman Jones.
Thank you, Madam President. Good afternoon and, again, thank you for your patience with us. I want to go particularly to, since Councilman Green, who is our technological Councilman of record, I want to know, how much has been expended thus far for your visionary consolidation plan? How much have you actually expended towards equipment, towards whatever investment in that plan you have? How much money have you spent thus far?
Well, I mean, I could relate to just we've been spending 255 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. based upon our normal Fiscal Year '9 and '10 Operating Budget. As it relates to spending particularly in consolidation, what we have been doing is routinely replacing hardware and equipment that is near failure or needs to be replaced for critical operating needs. We've also, as we've been consolidating, literally turning off computers, and as I mentioned in my testimony, we talked about turning off as many as 111 servers. In effect, that's out of 157 that I actually brought into the data center. So it's a very high percentage.
So what does that represent in outlay of capital, how much --
Well, right now I don't have any particular specific capital outlay associated with the bringing in of those servers. What we have done, though, to answer your question, is relative to the network, we have begun to purchase the replacement 256 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. for network switches that would allow us to have the high-speed network that we need.
I'm looking for a dollar amount in equipment. Do you have that?
I would have to get back to you on a specific dollar amount to answer that question.
What percentage of that equipment has gone to minority and female equipment providers?
I can't answer that question in terms of equipment providers. Our procurement process in terms of the purchasing of equipment --
How much have you expended in professional services and consultants?
Well, in the prior year, the budget was roughly, give or take, around 35 million in total in professional services across the City.
How much of 257 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. that has gone to minority, female and DBEs?
The Division of Technology target for this year is 6 percent. 7
What did you 8 actually expend to minority and female 9 companies in professional services last 10 year? 11
Let me see if I can 12 find that number for you, sir. 13 In Fiscal Year -- if we use 14 Fiscal Year '09 actual, which was the 15 full year, total contract was 10,863,489, 16 which 2,192,000 went to minority or -- so 17 that's roughly 20 percent in '09. 18
So wait a 19 minute. You said you spent 20 -- what 20 was the overall figure? 21
I'm referring to 22 the total amount of professional services 23 in IT across the City, across the entire 24 City. 25
How much was 258 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. that?
That was roughly 35 million for across the City, which I 5 did not have control of. 6
So out of 7 your procurement power, what did you 8 expend? 9
What I've expended 10 very specifically, as I said, in '09 11 contracts equal to 10,863,000, of which 12 2,192,000 was minority, which was 20 13 percent, and in 2010 we anticipate on 14 contract value of 5.6 million, minority 15 dollar value of 1.4 million or 25 16 percent. And going into '11, I project a 17 35 percent total, and very, very 18 committed to that number. 19
All right. 20 I wanted to put that on the record. I mean --
-- if you're doing good work, I want to hear about it. If you're not doing work, we need room 259 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. for improvement.
How much of 6 those companies were Philadelphia based? 7
That's an 10 important figure for my interest anyway. 11 Are we -- and my last question, 12 are we going after any of the stimulus 13 dollars as a municipality? Have we 14 decided yay, nay on that? I had some 15 information from a time ago, but I don't 16 know if that is yet checked. 17
Yeah. We did 18 actually propose for broadband stimulus, 19 of which the City didn't get any based 20 upon the criteria of need. And so we did 21 submit, but didn't win anything, and 22 we -- there is submissions going on in 23 effect right now for round two. 24
Are we 25 planning to submit as a municipality? 260 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Yes, we are. We're submitting -- there is actually three areas. One is called computer labs, which we are providing effectively computers in rec centers and things like that. And so we are going to be proposing there. And then in other proposal areas, actually third parties are actually proposing, of which we're just simply supportive.
I'll leave that to my other colleagues or I'll wait until my second round. My concern is, do you think there's going to be three selections from Washington for Philly? So, in effect, we're competing against other Philly funds? 261 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Councilman, Steve Agostini, Budget Director. The broadband initiative as described by NTIA, which is an agency in Commerce, had three different categories, and given that we're not awarded any dollars in the first round for reasons that we still can't quite understand --
-- we thought it was important to have a bid in each category so that we could maximize our ability. I think they're going to award on a per-category basis as opposed to look at our three and say, You've got three, pick one. They haven't done that yet, and based on conversations I've had with Commerce, it doesn't sound like that's what they're going to do.
Councilman, if I could also add, though, because you made the point about are we in fact competing against other Philadelphia entities, and 262 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. one of the things that I'm very proud of is, I think both in the first round and in the second round, we actually did a tremendous amount of community outreach. So we're trying to coordinate. To me it's not about the municipality winning. It's about the City winning and maximizing. So we brought together around 50 different agencies, non-profits, universities, and so coming up with these three proposals was a result of the group coming together and saying, What's the best way to maximize the win as a city. So I want to make sure that's very clear, sir.
Mr. Frank, what are the projected savings and/or efficiencies of the consolidation of IT services to the Division of Technology? 263 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
The savings will come in a number of ways. First of all, one part of the consolidation, as I started to talk about, is the physical consolidation of equipment and hardware, and that's really turning off redundant pieces of equipment that no longer are needed. We're right now in the middle of that process. So as an example, we estimate -- and this is just an estimate -- that we have something close to 1,000 servers or computers in the City. I mentioned before that just recently I brought in 157 of those into my data center and were able to turn off 111. Now, I don't have a calculator with me, but that's a heck of a large percentage. We estimate that each server we turn off on a full-year basis probably saves the City close to $3,000. So over the long term as we reduce the number of servers -- and what I'm hoping -- again, it's a rough count of about a thousand. 264 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. I would expect as we look forward certainly over the three- to five-year horizon, those number of servers would probably be cut by a third, if not more. So one is physical equipment and the savings associated with the purchase, maintenance and support. The second is software purchases, and we're talking about basically purchasing application software that was primarily done by each department, and now we're coordinating that centrally. So one of the things we're also doing is making sure that we're only purchasing software that we need. We're moving towards Enterprise licenses. And over the course of the years, we expect to be able to reduce specific software purchases by several million dollars. And then what we're also doing is looking at, which is a very important piece for me, professional services in contracting. One of the things that 265 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. dismayed me when I did come into government was the number of vendors and the variability of the pricing in the rates that we're paying for the same skills. So we've been working inside government to redefine our, what I call, our IT sourcing or procurement process so that we in fact can drive the cost of our contractor fees down significantly. We also expect over the course of time energy savings, which I can't quantify because of the fact that I'm reducing by orders of magnitude the reduction in hardware and things like that.
Well, with that being said, based on the consolidation of IT services and the $28.5 million you are receiving, what are the savings you expect to achieve over the five years?
One of the difficulties that I have inside technology is that we're remedially 266 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. correcting, let's just say, many years of things that we need to fix. So what I'm doing is reinvesting, if you will, savings back into the infrastructure. So relative to the specific budget itself that we've presented, we have some savings identified, but we also effectively need to continue to spend the money next year in order to rebuild our infrastructure. So I don't think we're going to see a net savings, if you will, to the bottom line. We will see savings in one category and spending in another.
Don't you think we should see some savings over the next five years in the Five Year Plan?
Madam President, I think it is a good question, and I think that over time we should be seeing savings in either fewer positions over time, which we should be able to quantify 267 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. after we've done the investments, which is where we've had the difficulty and the challenge. I think having greater productivity in the existing workforce would also be a savings. It may mean we need fewer people to do the things that we're doing. In terms of the costs of the hardware and the software, we may generate efficiencies with that as well. So I think it is fair to say that at some point over the Five Year Plan we should start to realize some savings. Until we are a little deeper into this, it will be hard for us to really put a number down and say, Yes, we have confidence in that number, and I think that's really been the struggle that we've had in terms of trying to identify a number.
Good 268 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. afternoon.
During Deputy Mayor Gillison's testimony, he stated that the Department of Homeland Security had upgraded Philadelphia from a Level 2 city to a Level 1 city. Due to this upgrade and the recent grant award, it is my understanding that Philadelphia will receive new federal dollars for cameras to protect vital areas. My questions are three. With these funds, how many new cameras will be installed and when will the project start and when will it be completed?
We're projecting roughly another 250 cameras with the grants currently in hand, but there is also obviously a continuing expectation that we will continue to seek more grant dollars.
We currently have 269 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. roughly 200, of which I think roughly 170 or 180 are operating. So then that would add another, as I said, roughly 250 on top of that.
We have 200 installed, of which around 170, 180 are operating, and then we hope to install another 250.
You said 17 200 have been installed, 170 are 18 operating. 19
If you recall, there was an article sometime back that some of these cameras had bags on them, and that's because we don't have the 270 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. infrastructure to actually connect those cameras to the network. And so what we're doing is -- that requires fiber. That's called fiber network, and so those cameras will be operating as soon as we complete that part of the network.
So with the new dollars that might come in as a result of us being upgraded from a Level 2 to a Level 1, how much will we get? Do you know what the dollar amount is?
Good afternoon, Councilwoman. My name is Joseph James. I'm Deputy Chief Information Officer for the Division of Technology. The recent grant we received was approximately $4 million. We received that last year, and that will be able to fund the 200, 250 cameras that we recently are planning to do in the next 271 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. round. The money that --
So is that in addition to the 200 that you've already installed?
Yes. The 200 that we have already installed was done by the City funds.
I think the intent is to get close to around 500 cameras in total.
Now, if you're having a problem with the installation and you don't have the fiber, are you going to use any of that money to deal with -- I have no idea about this stuff, but in terms of the fiber, how do you plan to -- you're going 272 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. to install the cameras, but they too will have bags on them and won't be working?
No. The plan for the additional funding that we recently received for the 200 to 250 cameras I mentioned, the way they're being laid out is to integrate into our existing fiber infrastructure that we built from the original funding. So what we've done is, we've built out a network or a spine of fiberoptic cabling so that we can expand upon the placement of additional cameras off of that spine, thereby reducing the amount of additional fiber we need and then accelerating the deployment of those new cameras and not have a situation where we have bagged cameras and then have to go back and fix them later.
So what's going to happen to the 30 that you didn't put in with the --
We're going to get them unbagged as quickly as we can and get them operational. So we have about 273 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. 30 that we need to get unbagged and online.
We're doing that internally with our own people right now. We're working that now.
Okay. And so can you use the $4 million to also address the data storage issue with the existing cameras?
That's the plan. As we expand, the additional $4 million will provide a certain amount of additional storage. It will expand our storage capability in total so that we're trying to build the storage on about 500 cameras that can support 500 cameras.
The additional funds that you have received, the $4 million, and you plan to put in 200 to 250 cameras -- 220 to 250, I guess my question is, have these locations for these cameras been identified? 274 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Some of the locations have been identified. The locations that are being identified by Police and through the Department of Homeland Security has specific critical sites that they require that we put cameras around. So there's a mandate of camera locations that the federal government has already said we have to cover. They are historic sites and critical infrastructure sites. And then there's additional sites that the Police Department will be identifying for the placement of cameras.
Well, the other one, Mr. Frank, I just want to ask you, I had an interest in the Mayor's Commission on Technology since that Commission was a result of Council hearings and the Executive Order passed 275 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. by Mayor Rendell at that time. Have you given any thought to if you're, one, going to continue the Commission and then what kind of form do you think it might take? I know we had some conversation about this, and you may have your ideas about how it should work. I'd just like to have that for the record.
In the future, we do see the need to develop some sort of governance similar to kind of the Mayor's Commission on Technology as it existed in the past. I think some of the conversations have been we need to really broaden out the constituency and really focus on going forward, what type of leadership do we need and what do we need to do in the City. The historical programs of the Mayor's Commission on Technology, with the untimely death of Carole, who we all loved, what we wanted to make sure is that some of those very important 276 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. programs continued. So we actually are talking to other non-profit groups in the City, including the Black Data Processing Association and mPower, talking about perhaps they would be ideal homes programmatically for some of the programs. And what I would see in the future, whether it's called the Mayor's Commission on Technology, whatever, is we really need to look at this as kind of a planning body, I think, that would combine both stakeholders outside of government as well as government. But, again, in the short term, with her untimely death, I was most concerned about those specific programs that she herself had actually created and that -- so what we felt was, let's try to find them a great home from a sustainability perspective.
Well, the initial concept was to deal with the future and the information superhighway, because we started this back in 1999, was 277 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the City going to be ready, and to develop the plans of how the City would cope with the new technology. So that was -- and I just think the program emanated as a result of whatever activity they were doing. But it was to be a planning committee and broad based and community based also with business, labor and community involved to talk about how Philadelphia would address the whole technology issue.
And I think that's consistent with what I believe we also need going forward. We're just having to reorganize and kind of rethink the Charter right now.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Sanchez.
Thank you. 278 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Good afternoon. First, let me start off by congratulating your ability to at least on paper consolidate your department.
We're going to use you as a model for consolidation, so there's a lot riding on this. Okay?
We want this to really work. So I do congratulate you. I know that breaking down those silos. How are you operationalizing all these different units in the different departments and what's the communication back and forth?
It's a great question, and this sort of thing is almost like, if I can use the commercial world, kind of like a merger. We actually have IT people in 33 agencies, and some are small and some are large. 279 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. So let me just first say that consolidation isn't -- the hard part isn't about the technology. It really is about human beings and culture and how do we really move forward and build something sustainable for the City. So to answer your question, first of all, there's a couple of premises that we started with, and, that is, believe it or not, do no harm. In other words, one of the dangers with something like this is rearranging the deck chairs so quickly that people come in in the morning and they don't know what their job is anymore. So let me just say that one of the things that we've done in working with the department heads is basically saying that on day one, a group working in the department continues to work in the department and that the IT Director and those people absolutely have the 100 percent responsibility of satisfying that department head and those department 280 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. needs, even though they may shift on my payroll. So, first of all, number one, make sure that we maintain a stable environment during that initial transition, because there's a lot of emotion and fear as to, oh, my gosh, what's happening to me. Second thing that we're doing is starting a process of communication at many different levels and obviously having to recreate some governance that includes bringing IT leaders together, also getting stock of what our gaps are, what type of IT leaders we need. We've lost some because of retirement and others. And then I've started a process of just even informally coming in and talking to the whole teams, because it really doesn't have to be something scary. So a lot of the front end of the consolidation is really all about calm down, let's maintain what we're doing well and let's start becoming a cohesive team. 281 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. What we're also doing is -- one of the difficulties for me is to actually understand the great talent that we do have. I mean, you can look at a piece of paper and say, you have so many people, but the real question is, how do you get to know these individuals. So that's the other part of this, is kind of the education process of sitting down with the employees. We're also pulling together surveys and things like that, creating newsletters. So, again, it might sound trite, but the fact of the matter is is that we're trying to create a home for a future.
How is the decision-making? Ultimately as folks -- as you say, people have to maintain their systems. In terms of decision-making at those levels, how is that filtering up and back down?
Well, let me divide the problem into kind of small, medium and large departments. 282 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I won't take it. Well, here's how it works: First of all, you maintain a governance structure at the department level so that the department head certainly of the larger departments run a monthly IT steering committee, which I sit at the table along with the other IT people. So, first of all, a very close connection with the department and setting priorities, and that's where it starts. And so my priorities are set by the departments' priorities.
So as it relates to areas where we had already made significant infrastructure investments, DHS Cares, Hansen, I know the Streets Department uses other technology, how are we working to interface those and are we going to be able to interface those?
The terminology in 283 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. my world is called architecture. It's kind of like what's the building look like. So effectively what I've actually been doing over the last year is trying to document what the heck our architecture is, how the leg bone connects to the shin bone, all these computers. And specifically for the purpose of when we come together, how will all these systems fit together. So a chunk of some of the investment that I talk about of certainly this year and then going forward is about putting in place some of the technology to make these systems talk together a lot better, and that really is the technical challenge for us. But it's a lot easier when you can look at it as a whole than the way we've had to do it, which is making decisions a department at a time. So, in fact, we're working with the Department of Licenses and Inspections and making sure that we can integrate Hansen. I've worked very heavily with 284 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. DHS and in fact Dr. Schwarz on how do we expand the use of Cares. So nothing is going away. It's how do we make this thing better.
So none of that interfacing has happened yet. You're still kind of assessing, figuring out what we're going to keep?
No. We're actively building. I mean, that's why -- some things are harder than others. We have a Streets interface working. We're working with L&I to interface the Hansen, because it's just more complex. Cares, we have been working with them. We are building systems.
I'll wait for my next round. Thank you. Thank you, Madam President.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilman Jones.
Thank you, 285 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Madam President. I think most of my questions were answered in the first round, so what I'd like to know is, as we start to move this technology piece forward and by way of the camera infrastructure, if I forget --
Yeah, Joe James to come back up. (Witness approached witness table.)
At what point -- I know you're corresponded with high-crime areas, and at what point will we have, based on the analysis of some of the hardest police districts, when will we have covered those critical mass areas in your projections?
Well, we started out the replanning for this year based upon the Police gave us a priority list of those districts they wanted us to focus our attention on, and we did the 286 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. top eight. There are actually elements to the project based by particular target areas. The plan the way we are moving at this point in time is that we're going to probably be around this time next year, depending on funding and everything being in place and weather conditions and so forth, to be able to finish out the top 20.
Are there 13 any corresponding drops in crime and/or 14 apprehensions based on the installation 15 of the cameras? 16
Actually, 17 Councilman, I'm really not that 18 knowledgeable from the Police side. I 19 think that's a question for the Police 20 Department. Anecdotally, they have documented many cases where the cameras have assisted in their ability to reduce the amount of crime in the area and actually in the results of certain crimes occurring been able to identify and -- 287 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
So we should wait for the Police Commissioner to see if that -- okay. And, finally, do you also handle -- you handle Council's infrastructure by way of our computer system as well?
Council is supported through an outside contractor, as you know.
So as you do these upgrades, is there a direct impact on our technology or lack thereof?
So you're going to advise us how to keep up or are you giving us input so that we're not speaking apples and oranges, if you would?
My hope is moving 288 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. forward along the line of the fact that we really are trying together to raise the level of technology across the City, is working with Council on a couple levels. First of all, I would like us to do a better job of educating and providing training and support to Council for the use of the technology as it relates to the upgrades and the investments that we're talking about. As --
I was just text and told because of my comments, my computers have been shut off.
There you go. Well, the bottom line is is that as we increase the speed of the network, as we put in place all that, you will feel a direct impact, and that would be almost immediate. As we put in these new application systems, they would be made available to you. Again, what I'm trying to say is that there's also a tremendous 289 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. opportunity working with Council and saying how do you best use these tools and what do we need to do as a division to help Council in making them most productive in using the technology.
Similar to what we talked about with the 3-1-1 system and understanding how that works, there are many departments that we rely on for information in order to do our jobs, particularly with constituent service requests. So it is important to us to keep up with you guys. And, finally, do you manage our website as well or does that happen through our consultant?
I don't think we do much creatively. I think we run it on our computer.
That's an 290 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. understatement. My 12-year-old grandson could probably be more interactive on Facebook than we are in our website. We need to be able to engage constituent service requests from that, and it just fails to meet standards. So we'll talk.
All right. They said my computer is back on. Thank you, Madam Chair.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilman Goode.
Over the course of the budget process, my colleagues and I will be talking about the Mayor's goal of reaching percent 25 DBE participation in Fiscal Year '11. 291 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Also in the course of budget hearings, I actually will be pulling out live RFPs that are still open. The Division of Technology has two contracting opportunities that are still open; is that correct?
There is one for third-party IT assessment in addressing, advancing and optimizing the City's cashiering and payment processing infrastructure. Does that sound familiar?
And there's another seeking a qualified contractor to supplement support of its recruitment efforts for both permanent hires and staff augmentation.
For the first contract, there is a goal for MBEs 292 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. of to percent participation. It says and/or 10 to 15 percent for women business enterprises. For the second, the opportunity says the City is anticipating these services will be provided by a single individual pursuant to the Mayor's Executive Order 02-05, as denoted above in No. 4 - Evaluation Services. Along with other criteria, preference will be given to minority, women and disabled businesses for project associated with this notice of opportunity. In one contract there are specific goals. In the other contract I don't know what that language is supposed to mean. My question for one is, who set the range of opportunity, and for the second, why was there not a range of opportunity set?
I can't answer here directly the second question of why there was no opportunity goals set, and I would have to go back specifically to the 293 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Deputy around that one goal of the to 15. My understanding is that that percentage was given to us, but I don't think that's a good answer.
My question 7 is, I guess how can that percentage be 8 given to you? You are the expert in your 9 contracting needs, procurement needs. 10 You know what goods and services you need. You are a longstanding professional in the field. Wouldn't you better know what the capacity is for participation?
You mean the possibility of what the maximum percentage possibly could be? Yes, sir.
In other words, is 10 to 15 percent a real number or is it a number that was just created?
I don't think that that number necessarily reflects the true opportunity. So I think that it probably is representing a lower number than is potentially true in the marketplace. 294 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
So what role did you play in creating that number and what role do you believe you should play in creating that number?
The role I believe that I should be playing is to set the standard actually to maximize the minority participation, which is why you see on a going-forward basis, particularly in line with the level of investment that we're now making going forward --
This is a contract opportunity that is live. It's still open.
Yeah. No, I understand, sir. And so what I intend to do, which is why you see the 35 percent, and also what I am doing is reaching out to the minority community proactively going forward in order to really try to maximize the potential of participation. I really have no really good answer as to, again, for those particular 295 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. percentages on those two contracts.
For the second one, which does not have a specific percentage range, are you familiar with that language that I cited?
Are you familiar with the language I cited that says the City is anticipating these services will be provided by a single individual pursuant to the Mayor's Executive Order 02-05 and as noted above in 4 - Evaluation Selection. Along with other criteria, preference will be given to minority, women and disabled businesses for the project associated with this notice of opportunity. To be honest, it sounds like someone wants to give the contract to someone. They want to say that they entertained the idea of offering diversity, but they didn't set ranges because they either want to give the contract to someone specifically and/or 296 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. they do not want to create subcontracting opportunities if they are available. (Witnesses approached witness table.)
Let me just say one thing. First of all, relative, for example, to the staff aug contract that we're speaking of, the participation after the selection was 66 percent minority. So, again, I can't -- I don't really offer any good excuse relative to the wording on those pages, but what I will absolutely stand by is my commitment to maximize it, and by action, not words, going forward.
And I hear you, and my response to that is actually that's why when we set the goals on an annual basis, there's such a differential and we never hit the goal, because the goals are not real. And we were told the goals will begin to be real. So, in other words, for these contracts or for your department, there may be a goal of 297 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. percent and you may reach 40 percent because you're trying to do the right thing, and that's a good thing, but the issue is, why is the goal-setting fake? Because to some extent, it seems to be fake, and I intend to not just look at the goal-setting on an annual basis, but to look at live contracting opportunities that are still open to see who set the goal and why and whether it's a real goal.
Are 19 there any further questions from members 20 of the Committee? (No response.)
We 298 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. will now hear from the Records Department. (Witnesses approached witness table.)
Good afternoon. Welcome. Please identify yourself for the record. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. My name is Joan Decker and I serve as the Records Commissioner in the City. I have with me today Jeanne Reedy and also Carl Zimmerman. And, Council President, I will just summarize the testimony.
Thank you. COMMISSIONER DECKER: For FY2011, the Records Department is presenting a General Fund operating budget of $4,009,212, a decrease of $1,325,603 from the Department's FY10 estimated obligations. The entire reduction is due to the IT consolidation. Class 100 is allocated at 299 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. 2,845,219, an increase of 26,000 from the estimated obligations of class -- I'm sorry; estimated obligations of $2,819,219 for FY10. This reflects an internal transfer from Class 300. The number of budgeted positions in staff remains the same at 63. Class 200, purchase of services, allocation changes from FY10 estimated obligation level of 2,389,890 to 1,083,719 in FY11, a decrease of 1,306,111. Again, this is due to the IT consolidation. Class 300, materials and supplies, decreases by 26,000 from the FY10 estimated obligations level to $60,502 for FY2011, reflecting an internal transfer to Class 100. Class 400, equipment, allocation decreases by 19,492 from the FY10 estimated obligations level to $18,266 for FY2011. Again, due to the IT consolidation. Class 500 remains at the FY10 300 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. level of $1,456 in FY2010. And our mission is reflected in the testimony, in the written testimony. And as for the initiatives that we have started and which will continue into FY11, I'm sure you know by now that we are responsible for the Document Recording area, and in this capacity, we've implemented as many enhancements as possible to automate the operations. We currently conduct electronic recording. We have over 200 companies that engage in electronic recording with us, and that's an approximate level on average 46 percent, but that fluctuates somewhat and is sometimes higher. We have also implemented a number of other types of automation, optical character recognition, to name one of them. We will continue into FY2011 our Document Notice program, and this provides notice to a homeowner any time a deed or a mortgage is recorded within the 301 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Department, we send a notice. To date, almost a little over -- approximately 850,000 letters have been sent to homeowners. And we recently received a telephone call from Mayor Bloomberg in New York's office. They believe that our program is very robust and comprehensive, and they asked us a lot of questions. They would be interested in replicating it there. So that has been very, very successful. Again, we have done as much as we can to implement convenient and easy online access to all of our data, our recorded instruments. Our public service really involves not only members of the public, but a lot of the businesses in the City and also through the country, and the initiatives that we have implemented helps them to do their business a lot more efficiently. We have implemented in August a fee increase of $30 in Document Recording area, and to date, that has yielded 302 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. approximately 2 million -- close to $2.4 million. If the current recording volume continues at its current level, we project a total recording volume of about 145,000 documents, and that would yield just an increase in revenue of $4.3 million. The Department's OEO goal of the City's goal of percent, we expect 11 in the Records Department to achieve 12 about 33 percent of our contracts will be 13 to minority businesses. 14 As for the budget impact this 15 upcoming year, I'd like to say that the 16 Department's budget has been reduced by 17 47.8 percent. The Department's FY2011 18 budget was reduced by $1,325,603, or 24.8 19 percent, from FY2010. Since FY2009, the 20 Department has been reduced a total of 21 $3,670,659, or 47.8 percent. 22
23 Commissioner, do you mind repeating that, 24 please? How much of a decrease have you 25 had? 303 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Forty-seven point eight percent decrease since FY09.
Can we have that in dollars and cents, please. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Oh, yes. Sorry. Has been reduced a total of $3,670,659, 47.8 percent. Since FY2009, the Department's budget has been reduced by class as follows: 22.23 percent in Class 100; 70.55 percent in Class 200; 69.04 percent in Class 300; and 87.31 percent in Class 400. For FY2011, the Department's budget is reduced 55 percent in Class 200 and 52 percent in Class 400. And when we were here last year, we did talk about some of the reductions that we took last year. Last year's reduction was approximately 30.5 percent, and these were reductions and changes throughout the Department in all of our units. They involve the decrease 304 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. in staffing as well as professional services, materials, supplies and equipment. We also were -- we discontinued and closed several units and we lost about staff positions, which also 8 included some layoffs. 9 And some of the projects or 10 initiatives that we were not able to do, 11 again, cut across the department, they 12 included some scheduled upgrades and 13 enhancements in Document Recording and in other areas within the Department. We had planned to do some upgrades, implement some redaction technology for sensitive information on public records and also enhancements -- other types of enhancements as well that we think would have helped the Department. And there were also significant reductions in materials and supplies and equipment that affected all the units in the Department. The effect of these budgetary cuts continues into FY2011. Existing 305 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. resources will be allocated according to our services that are mandated by state and local law, and they will be prioritized accordingly. So we will deal first with those that are state mandates, which mostly govern Document Recording, our Registry and Mapping area, as well as public records that are subject to the Pennsylvania Right to Know Act Law. And these changes affect both the external services that we provide to the public as well as some of our internal services. The challenges facing the Department in FY11 are many. Many of the routine maintenance of equipment is discontinued. Materials and supplies are severely limited, including those supplies that are required to provide types of materials, such as receipts and so on, to the public when they come into our department to access services. Should any Councilmember wish to engage in further discussion on any of these matters, we are more than happy to 306 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. meet with Councilmembers at your convenience, and I thank you for your continuing support and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
Thank you very much, Commissioner. When you talked about your decrease, I didn't realize that $1.3 million of your budget is being transferred to the Division of Technology. Is it not? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's correct.
What services are you proposing to transfer? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, the services would involve any technology that is used to support document -- it's really almost in every area of our department, and that would include Document Recording, the Registry/Mapping Unit that map the legal descriptions that come into us on deeds and which we provide the land parcel coverage for all the properties within the City, the 307 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. police accident report, the applications for a variety of other types of police incident and fire reports, the Philly history, any kind of mapping support, and also we've just suspended some support.
Commissioner, from an operational perspective, what, if any, impact does this have on your operations, the transferring of the money? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, we would -- we understand that the systems that are in place will continue to be maintained. So the amount of the transfer was equal to the support of the systems that I mentioned and also to a certain sum of money in Class 400, which would be used for any equipment, any computer equipment, that would need to be replaced or supported. We would continue on the front lines to provide services and interact with the public, but we would not have that, in a sense, control of the 308 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. technology, because it's being transferred over to IT.
Commissioner, did you make a proposal to the Finance Department to raise the county fee per recording from $2 to $15, which would generate an additional $1.8 million? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. Yes, we did make that proposal.
Was this recommendation accepted by the Administration? COMMISSIONER DECKER: It was accepted. This would require a change in state law, and at the time that we were discussing this, there was a concern that this might conflict with the interest in raising the Housing Trust Fund fee at the state level, so this was put on hold for a while until that can be successfully ironed out.
So it was accepted? 309 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
But there's nothing we can do about it at this point in time? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's right.
So it's on hold? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's correct, it's on hold. We didn't want -- the thought was not to conflict with the interest in raising the amount of fee to be collected for the Housing Trust Fund.
I thought we found $1.8 million. Okay. The Chair recognizes Councilman Greenlee.
Thank you, Madam President. Good afternoon, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Good afternoon.
First, I want to acknowledge all the years of 310 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. service you've had with the Records Department and the improvements that you've made down there. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Thank you.
Unfortunately, I still have to raise the issue that you and I have talked about a number of times of the stolen deeds, tangled titles, and I just have some questions on that. You say in your written statement that the Department will continue to send a document notice letter. Isn't it true that that is part of Bill 080424-A, which requires the Department to do that? I mean, isn't that part of the law? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's part of the law, but this program was started in, I think, approximately 2004.
And I know you started it, and I appreciate that. 311 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
But isn't it also true that actually that's just part of what the bill asks for? And really the notice letter where, certainly an improvement, really is dealing with after the horse has left the barn, if you will, because that property, you have already accepted that deed, so the person gets a notice -- and I have an example here that I can go over -- that person then has to go through the whole very complicated system of trying to get their property that was stolen from them back; is that true? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes, but we have found that for many people, they would not be aware that any perhaps fraudulent activity had occurred until years later when they were ready to sell their property. So this provides an advanced opportunity for them to take action sooner rather than later.
No, I 312 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. understand, and I certainly acknowledge that, but there's other parts of the bill 4 that mandate things, like checking if it's the actual owner that's doing it, checking if there's power of attorney, trust situations, all like that. Is your department applying those -- COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
And your employees are aware of that law, that every time a deed comes in, they have to check those things? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. We have process in place where all of those checks are really exercised and applied, and we do keep statistics on that. We're checking every time a deed comes in, we know whether there was documentation submitted by law. That includes whether there was required articles of incorporation, whether there was a power 313 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. of attorney that was required, whether it was submitted by a title company, whether it came by certified U.S. postal mail, yes.
And you say you have statistics. Can you forward that to the Chair so we can take a look at it? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
I appreciate that. Are you familiar with the name -- and I just want to use this as an example, and, again, it's one example. We think there are others too, but are you familiar with the name of Anthony Mitchell? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Anthony Mitchell, yes.
Doesn't actually exist, correct? That is a fraudulent person? COMMISSIONER DECKER: I don't know if it's fraudulent. I do, however, 314 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. know that it is under investigation, and we have been asked to keep that quiet since it is under investigation by the inspectors.
Okay. Well, let me just say, one of the properties that he supposedly was transferred to, a gentleman has been in touch with our office and has been dealing with us since last September, and in all due respect, at least in his case, those procedures that we just talked about were not followed. If they had been checked, the owner that supposedly gave this property to Anthony Mitchell was not the owner on record. The notary was not correct, and there was a lot of other information that was not in there. Now, again, I don't know if this was just an aberration, but we have heard from other people that sometimes those regulations aren't followed. So I guess I would just, as much as I could, urge people to -- urge you to make sure 315 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. your department knows that, because, again, there's still, I'll grant you, not as many people as it used to be, but there's people that still come up to our office who have had their properties stolen, and I just want to emphasize that once that happens, they are really in a long, drawn-out procedure. This fellow who had his property stolen that I just referred to, Mr. Groslick, again, he's still in touch with our office and as recently as today brought some examples of still the things he has to go through, because he can't afford the lawyer, he can't get it pro bono, and he's trying to do this himself. And where he's not an unintelligent person, he's not verse in this kind of law, and it just makes it very difficult when somebody has that situation. It's the most expensive thing, the most valuable thing the man has ever owned, and he's just frustrated by the whole situation. 316 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Now, not just in this case, but any time that you see situations like this, do you get in touch with the DA, the Police? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes, we do.
Okay. And one of the things that Mr. Groslick has run into is that he needs documentation that these -- like the picture, the photograph that was taken, that kind of thing, that is mandated down there. Isn't that public record? Couldn't he get that from your department? He's saying your department is not giving that information. COMMISSIONER DECKER: We don't consider that public record, no. It has been furnished to the -- I mentioned there is an ongoing investigation, and it has been furnished to appropriate authorities.
Again, I don't want to just get into this 317 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. individual guy's case, but that's all well and good, but while that's going on, he can't get his property. And, again, he can't afford a lawyer. It would seem like when it's clear cut that this property was stolen, I guess I don't understand why there isn't more cooperation from your department to what is clearly an innocent victim. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, we work very aggressively and actively with the Fraudulent Conveyance Committee in the Philadelphia Bar Association and we have been partnering with Judge Annette Rizzo to try to help -- to expedite these cases and to provide as much support from non-profits as is possible. We certainly empathize with anyone who had their property stolen. We recognize it is a very difficult situation. However, some of the cases are extremely complicated and they're not very easy to so easily return the 318 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. property within a day or two. But we do empathize and we have taken as many steps as we can to try to partner with, again, law enforcement, we partner with the courts and we also partner with a committee, Fraudulent Conveyance Committee, from the Philadelphia Bar Association. We're all aggressively working on these issues.
Just a general question. Would you consider this still a problem in the City? COMMISSIONER DECKER: I think it is still a problem, definitely.
Okay. Because I was going to say, we got a letter. Council President got it back in February of this year from Judge Dembe, who seems to acknowledge it is still going on. And I'm not just putting it on your department. I'm not saying that. COMMISSIONER DECKER: We have met with Judge Dembe's office and submitted a list of recommendations and 319 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. suggestions that really address a composite of different issues that surround this, and that includes not only legislative changes, but the need for a great deal of community education. We do know that the incidents of fraud really are targeted -- the targeted communities are immigrant populations, the elderly and actually relatives who perpetrate fraud against their own family members.
Yeah, there's certainly a lot of that. COMMISSIONER DECKER: And there is a great deal of need, mostly for community education, where particularly in immigrant populations the community is not -- the customs are very different from their country of origin and they're very different from the land records and recording system that we have in the United States. And so really the many innocent victims unknowingly enter into transactions without the benefit of either land title insurance, perhaps on 320 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the street for cash transactions without having secured receipts or any kind of evidence about the party from whom they've supposedly purchased the property. So we have submitted a number of recommendations to both Judge Dembe and to Judge Annette Rizzo, our observations and our recommendations on our experience and understanding what happens to the victims of fraud.
And last question, and I'm not saying this to embarrass the department, because I know the vast majority, like all City employees, are honest, hard-working people, but there obviously was a problem at the end of last year with one of the employees down there being involved in one of these property thefts. Has there been anything else you've been able to do to try to guard against that? Are there checks? I know everybody talks about each department's integrity officer. Do 321 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. you have such a thing? COMMISSIONER DECKER: We have a number of detection tools that we use in the background, and so we are monitoring that carefully. Unfortunately, that particular person really perpetrated a lot of what he did outside of the department, and that was the issue. It wasn't something that he did within the department, but he did it outside in his home on the street. That's a little bit more difficult to detect, but nonetheless, we have implemented some other preventive measures, which I would rather not mention publicly.
I understand. Okay. All right. I'm sure we'll be talking some more. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Madam President.
Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Tasco. 322 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I just want to add to your woes, but I just want to bring a situation to you that came to me as I was ringing doorbells to get petitions signed. A woman, whose husband was beginning to experience, I guess, dementia or Alzheimer's or whatever, I don't know, but anyway, they were having a problem back and forth and so he gave her power of attorney. So she came down and had the house turned over and the deed turned over in her name. Then the family came and got him, and he gave them the power of attorney, and they came back to your department and had the property put in someone else's name. So I don't know what you can do about that or how that happened and I don't know all the details of the story, but I'm just sharing with you that she 323 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. said this -- because when I ran the doorbell, I'm sick of this City. After a long story, I said, Well, what's your problem with the City, and then she told me that. But I'm sure there are a lot of other -- it's a more complicated issue than I know, and there are always two sides to a story also, but she was able to get the deed in her name and then maybe a week later or less they were able to transfer it into somebody else's name. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. Well, we certainly will take a look at that. We'll look in particular at the powers of attorney. We do require copies of that at the time that a deed is recorded. Some of these cases are extremely challenging, because on the face of it, if a document comes in and meets the Document Recording requirements that are set forth in state law and as we are checking for the other items that were passed by City Council, it still is 324 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. possible for someone to perpetrate the fraud and to circumvent all the protections that are in place. So it's a very challenging type of crime for us to control, but we certainly will look in particular at the power of attorney issue and see if there's anything further that we can implement as a protection.
You're welcome. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Sanchez.
Thank you. Good afternoon. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Good afternoon.
In continuing some of the questioning of Councilman Greenlee, you say you have a document verification system. Is this 325 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. checked off for every single transaction like to ensure -- what he was going through is apparently there have been several transactions where gaps have been. Do you have a way of ensuring that every employee is following the protocol? COMMISSIONER DECKER: We do. There is a process in place. We have formal procedures. We have done training. We retrain. The supervisors monitor. They spot check and sample the documents that the staff is reviewing. There is a procedure whereby any document that is reviewed that doesn't fall within the required categories is flagged. We do notify the District Attorney's Office. So we do have that in place. There is always a part of a system that has a manual process to it where a staff person is responsible for it. So what we try to do is to retrain periodically. So we are constantly taking a look at this, and we certainly will refresh the training again. 326 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I'm just -- and I hate to add a document to this. Bill Green will shoot me over here. Is there a way that we can institutionalize some sort of check-off that says all of these things were met, signed by someone so that we can hold someone accountable for the fact that those documents were verified? COMMISSIONER DECKER: We will look into that, but I do want to add that when Council passed the legislation requiring that particular documentation be submitted when a deed is recorded in certain cases, and we mentioned some of them, articles of incorporation, power of attorney, trust, letters of administration, testamentary letters and also whether a document came in through the mail, what our staff does is, we actually copy and incorporate that and make it a part of the document. So if a document came in and references a will, it will be attached as part of the 327 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. document that is recorded.
Okay. So what would be educational for us, if you can come up with a crib sheet that says this is state law, this is city law. And you said you made recommendations to President Dembe and to Judge Rizzo, who both have expressed an interest and willing to work with us on this. What is missing? What is the gap? What type of state-enabling legislation, what types of recommendations could you give to us so that we can ensure -- I know there is a work group working on some state legislation, and I just want to make sure that if there's something that we need that's missing, we should be part of that discussion. Are you part of that work group that's putting together state legislation? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. We have met with Representative Manderino on several occasions, and most recently she 328 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. did submit to us drafts of a set of legislation, recommended revised legislation, based on our prior meetings with her office. And the enabling legislation, actually there are several of them, and one of -- they are as follows: To require both a buyer and seller of a property to sign the deed at the time that the transaction is committed and enacted. Right now it's only the seller of the property that must sign. This will give an audit trail, traceability, to make sure that when subsequent mortgages come in and subsequent sales occur, we can match up or law enforcement can match up the names appropriately. That would be one idea. Another idea is to revise the notary public law, which would require several things. First of all, any one of us can claim that -- can come in and go to a store and purchase notary equipment, stamp and seal, without being a duly authorized notary. So the thought is is 329 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. to kind of strengthen the notary public laws by requiring or by making it a criminal offense -- the penalties are, I think, only in one case, they're very light civil penalties -- to do a couple of things. Number one, to impersonate a duly commissioned notary, and the second thing is for anyone who purchases equipment without being a duly notarized notary. Both of those would carry both a criminal penalty as well as a civil penalty, because we do notice that in many cases, the notary is a fraudulator, so to speak. They're the ones that have colluded in the crime and they actually are responsible for verifying the identity of the person who is signing over as the granting party to either the rights or the property rights, and that is a problem. That is not necessarily the Records Department responsibility or County Recorder's responsibility. It's the responsibility of the notary, but in many of these fraudulent cases, the 330 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. notary is actually a criminal and is participating in this as well. So to the extent that you can strength the notary public laws, that would do a great degree in getting the message out that these will not be treated lightly. We also suggested in part of the working group that the bonding requirements for a notary would be increased. Right now I think it's only about $3,000. What this would mean, that when a notary is in collusion with the crime, that the innocent victim could go to the notary to get the money to proceed with the return of property through a quiet title action through the court of law. This would help to recover some of the expenses that are involved in doing that. I believe that there might have been one or two other issues, but they're really the driving areas of the legal changes that would be required, and I can get you a list. 331 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
It would be important for you to submit it. I know Councilman Greenlee has taken the lead on this issue, but you mention that this is impacting immigrant communities, and obviously my district being -- again, one of the areas where we're first is on this fraudulent deed situation. What are we doing around language access? Because it is happening to a lot of folks who English is their second language in some cases. Do we take deeds that are in Spanish, any of our documentation in -- COMMISSIONER DECKER: We haven't received any deeds that are in Spanish, but we have received some other documents like attesting to the identity of a person for a consulate in another country. But we haven't seen any deeds in Spanish. The deeds that have been submitted are in English. We did -- to your point, I did mention earlier community education is 332 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. extremely important. That has been the most difficult challenge for us, to connect with the right linkages to get to the community groups. We have spoken about this with Judge Rizzo, and she suggested that we invite Ms. Santos, who was invited to the Fraudulent Conveyance Committee. We just had a meeting on Friday at the Bar Association. But if we can -- to the extent that we can -- we do have tips for homeowners and buyers, and they are --
Are those in English and Spanish? COMMISSIONER DECKER: We have them in Spanish. We have some of our brochures about document recording, document recording requirements, also the fraud that is perpetrated, the document notice program. We have those in Spanish language as well. And we also have much of this posted on our website. I don't know right now if the Spanish language is posted on the website, but we do have the 333 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. brochures. The brochures are distributed and available in our public service rooms. Whenever anyone wants to come to research land records, we make sure that they have a copy of that. But the tips to homeowners and home buyers, all that material is very helpful to get out to the community groups.
It would be important and, again, we have to work with the DA, and I know in the past the DA's Office did not have the resources or did not want to dedicate the resources that we needed to go after what we knew were kind of the perpetrators. This has been a market, and they target hospitals. We've kind of known the pattern. We've just been unwilling. Do you see more prosecutions happening now or more willingness on the DA's Office to really kind of pursue? Because the onus is on the victim. You're the victim and then the onus is on you to prove that someone stole your 334 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. property. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
Do you find there's a little bit more cooperation there? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Oh, yes. Very definitely. I just testified in a hearing and listened to the closing arguments, was asked to be present at those. And I will also be participating in the sentencing for a rather large fraud ring. I will be present there, and I will be providing a victim impact statement on behalf of the City at that sentencing hearing. And there's some other cases that are in the works as well.
Okay. We're going to obviously continue to work on this issue. I'm very concerned, because some of the numbers that I get are several hundred a month in my district, and they only come to my desk when it's a problem, you know, when 335 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. obviously people are trying to recuperate it. And we've worked with CLS and we try to go through that whole circle of helping folks. One of the issues that I have a great concern is that even once it's proven that the person has stolen the property, the person, the victim, still has to get an attorney to file a civil case, and I'm wondering if there's anything in the middle there other than this person now absorbing a legal expense to go back and claim their property that we could be doing. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, there are two other areas. There are a number of non-profits. So we generally provide an information sheet if it's reported to us, if suspected fraud is reported to us, and we do work, again, through the Fraudulent Conveyance Committee in the Philadelphia Bar Association. We work with a number of the non-profits, including Regional Legal 336 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Housing Services, Senior Law Center and Philadelphia Volunteers for the Indigent, as well as Community Legal Services. So they partner with us, and we usually refer these cases first to any of those four non-profits. Beyond that, prior to -- Judge Dembe has continued and her predecessors actually implemented a pro se expedited hearing. So there is an opportunity every Thursday to go to the Court of Common Pleas and make your case. So that particular area -- that particular setup has been -- those sessions have been utilized. We do find that victims who want to argue their case on their own behalf do attend those hearings. A lot of the problems with that, though, is that these cases are very complicated. It's not a simple question of a transfer from one person to another. The criminals continue to become very smart. They figure out work-arounds for -- every time a 337 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. protection is put into place, they figure out a work-around. What they generally have learned to do is to transfer the property into a fictitious name and then sell it out to an innocent victim, making it almost impossible to trace them, and that's part of the problem. So what happens is, that innocent victim, many cases, will invest in the property and do renovations and then perhaps it's sold out again. Sometimes the perpetrator of the crime will do two sales, two unknowing victims. So when these cases appear in a court and the judge is trying to make a determination, it's really not a quite so simple solution, where you have multiple victims who are harmed, where some people have invested in upgrades to the property and another person has paid another, whatever, several thousand dollars to purchase the property as well. So although there are measures in place to accommodate people who do not 338 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. have the resources to argue for themselves, the cases can become very complicated. There are a lot of notice requirements, advertisement requirements that are set by law that need to be implemented. And many times these cases require very complex legal title searches, and that is what adds to the expense of the return of the property. So, yes, there are some other mechanisms that are in place for these innocent victims to utilize, but, again, these cases can be extremely complicated and it's always not so easy. The legal community is very interested in this, and they do work as much as they can. I mentioned these non-profits, who really do a wonderful job, and we assist them with that as well. We conduct a lot of the research on their behalf. We waive the recording fee. We notarize at no cost and sign the deed over to the rightful owner, but it is a very vexing and complicated issue. 339 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I'm just concerned that ultimately our inability to flag some of these cases leads to all this legal unraveling, and I just feel Bill's frustration, that we need to be more preventive. So maybe we want to look at particular areas where there is a pattern and you have these transfers that are coming in way below market, because many of the cases we've seen, the family relationship, they're not really related, but obviously to skirt real estate transfer tax, you see that. And I don't know who is keeping the data where this is happening, and so if we can identify certain communities, because we know. Who is tracking how many of these cases are out there? Do we have like one central? COMMISSIONER DECKER: We do have an internal tracking system where the reports of fraud, of suspected fraud, that do come to the Records Department we do keep track of. However, at the time 340 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. that they are reported to us, we do not know whether it is founded. So although we do have that material available, until it is prosecuted and examined and confirmed that it is fraud, we don't know that all of those cases are in fact fraudulent cases.
Can you at least share that data for us? Again, I'm the leader in the City as it relates to this, and I'm very concerned. So I'd like to look at the patterns, because maybe the conversation -- again, notwithstanding people's civil liberties, I'm very concerned about what other steps we need to put in play to limit, especially when we have family transfers or way-below-market transfers, which is what you see, because many of these properties also end up being tax delinquent, they end up with other stuff in the pot. Do we require -- you don't have a way of ensuring that taxes are paid, no 341 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. cross filing with any other departments? COMMISSIONER DECKER: No, we don't. No, we don't. With these -- and, again, with many of these cases, one of the big issues -- and we were talking about how this happens and the need for community education -- most of these incidents of fraudulent transfers occur without title insurance. If title insurance had been purchased, many of the searching for outstanding liens, whether it be outstanding real estate taxes, outstanding utility bills like gas, electric, other kinds of liens and judgments that may be filed in the Prothonotary's Office, when title insurance is purchased at the time of a property transfer, all of that examination, as well as any restrictions that occur on the property, all of that is examined. The problem with many of these is that title insurance is not procured.
I know, 342 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. but in lieu of -- title insurance is expensive, and so when someone thinks they're getting a good deal -- and I always tell them if it sounds too good, it is too good, and they don't listen. In lieu of that, we need to figure out how we develop the infrastructure to at least be able to check for delinquent taxes and delinquent water, and that becomes a flag, because we found -- and, again, that's why it's important for you to share this data -- that many of these transfers, particularly the ones that are family related, have many delinquencies. So maybe that's another step, Councilman, that we could pursue around, no different than we're doing now with zoning as it relates to folks getting permits. We may want to say unless there's a signed agreement and they can prove there's a signed agreement for real estate and water, we're not going to let these transfers happen. So that's up for discussion. 343 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Again, we're trying to find a solution with you, but I just think as government, it is not acceptable that our only recourse is to say we can't do anything. And when we're talking about hundreds a month, Lord knows what the pipeline is of some of these properties. I'm sitting on a couple hundred of them in my office now, extremely frustrated because we don't have options, and then we're walking through the legal process with people when I think there could be more that we can do up in the front. So I'd be happy to co-sponsor that with you, Councilman. Thank you.
I'm going to seed to Councilman Green, who never seeds to anybody else.
I actually 344 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. do have questions for Ms. Decker, but I am going to hold them while we bring Mr. Frank up so we can let him go. He's still waiting in the audience.
Well, I don't think it's fair to Commissioner Decker either.
Well, my questions for Commissioner Decker will take minutes and Mr. Frank has already 12 been waiting about that amount of time. 13
18 Commissioner, do you mind? 19 COMMISSIONER DECKER: No. 20 That's fine. 21
Just 22 a moment, please. 23 I know that Councilman Greenlee 24 had his light on, so -- 25
I never 345 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. ask questions that last 25 minutes. I just had one follow-up, one comment on what -- a number of comments, but just one for the record what Councilwoman Sanchez was saying. I certainly agree with everything, but the DA, I'd like to verify. This District Attorney, in all fairness, seems to be much more proactive. I think the former District Attorney kind of wanted to see that there were a lot of cases before she proceeded. This DA seems to want to take it like right from the beginning and fight every one, and I think that's good certainly. I just had one follow-up question, Commissioner. The issue of not providing or not considering some of that documentation public record, like I gave this particular case, is it a difference whether it's a criminal matter or a civil matter? Because in a civil matter, why would that be considered not public record? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, the 346 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. documentation that we look at from the City Council legislation, that's all incorporated and made part of public record.
Say it again. I'm sorry. COMMISSIONER DECKER: So all the documentation that is listed in the City Council legislation, we call it the deed match legislation, all of that is incorporated and becomes part of the public record.
It is part of the public record? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes, it is. We do not include photographs of people at the front counter who walk in the deed. Your prior question was about photographs. That is not part of the public record.
So the photograph is not, but the rest is? COMMISSIONER DECKER: But everything else, all the documentation, 347 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the articles of corporation, testamentary letters, the wills, the trust, powers of attorney, and we even -- the staff even takes a copy of the envelope, the certified U.S. postal envelope, and includes that as part of the document recording.
So some of the people who are trying to do this themselves, as was pointed out, there is some help for the lower-income people, but that the people who are above that means, they often in some ways are in tougher shape, because a lot of organizations now just can't handle it, because, as you say, some of it is very complicated. So they could get that information? Short of the photograph, they could get that information? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. We would make -- the case that you cited, we didn't release the photograph publicly because we don't consider them public record, but in that case, because it is 348 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. under investigation, we are under --
I understand. COMMISSIONER DECKER: -- a ruling not to release anything.
I understand. COMMISSIONER DECKER: However, if we knew that an individual was entering into a pro se argument in front of the Court, we certainly would release it in that case. We would want to make sure that we understood they were going to the Court on that day. It would only compound our issue, the issue of fraud, if we were to proliferate these photographs widely. So we want to be a little bit cautious about who we release them.
That makes sense. One last thing, if a person -- I won't use his name because you said it's under investigation, but somebody like that person is -- obviously 349 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. has been involved in a lot of questionable fraudulent transactions, is there a flag put on somewhere in your department where if such Joe Blow comes down here, be extra careful or don't take his stuff until we check farther, that kind of thing? Because there's obviously some people who have made this a living. This is their way of having -- COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, we have a great staff at the customer service desk, and you probably know both of them, Cindy and Ed.
Sure. COMMISSIONER DECKER: And they are very attuned to who are repeat customers that could be suspected fraudulators, and whenever we think that someone is coming in who has been there and suspected of fraud, we do contact the District Attorney's Office.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, Madam President. 350 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
You're welcome. Commissioner, if you don't mind waiting. COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's fine. Thank you.
Thank you. Mr. Frank. (Witness approached witness table.)
Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you for your patience, Mr. Frank. I'm sorry. I think I missed your testimony by two minutes running from another meeting. So I appreciate you hanging around. In every department that testified, I've -- and I let the Budget Office know I'd be doing this for each department. I have asked people to talk 351 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. about positions that have been unfilled for a significant amount of time, newly created positions, what the job duties and functions of those positions are and who has been performing those functions in the time that while -- if it's newly created, obviously nobody was, why we need an additional position. If it's been vacant for a long time, how has that work been getting done. So if we go to the schedule of positions in the budget, Schedule 100, list of positions, and this is under General Management and Support, you had a Deputy CIO position that was unfilled that has the salary of $175,000. Can you tell me what the job duties and functions of that are and -- I think I know the answer to this question, but is that position still unfilled?
No. That is the position filled by the First Deputy CIO Tommy Jones.
I'm confused 352 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. about that, because there was no 3 authorization or no position such as that in last year's budget. Is that incorrect?
So are you spending more in Class 100 than was authorized in 2010?
Okay. So how did you -- because that $175,000 wasn't in last year's budget, I'm wondering, did you lose people through attrition and that created Class 100 funds?
Do you want me to answer the question, sir? Basically, as you know, I'm transforming IT and I have to make a number of judgments in terms of bringing in specific positions. In order to make sure my budget stays balanced, first of all, what I've done is, I don't 353 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. look at any historical, what you would call, vacant positions. As far as I'm concerned, what I do is identify what are specifically the roles that I need today. Then what we've done is, we've either eliminated vacant positions that I don't need or -- I can't speak to this one specific position, but if I've created savings in the past, we might have even done a transfer ordinance between Class 200 and 100, but in no way am I going over the total budgeted Class 100 number. But there's no question we are making a number of very strategic important hires.
Well, very specifically -- you're talking about Tommy Jones or any Deputy CIO's?
I'm talking about the new Deputy CIO that has a salary of $175,000.
He's my first 354 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. deputy, so he's next in line in terms of he has overall responsibility should I not be there to run the operation. On a day-to-day basis, he's got overall responsibility for all application and data, as well as all of the departmental services.
I don't know what that means. I don't understand the question.
General on a day-to-day basis he has responsibility for, what did you say, general -- what is that --
So when you say he "runs the Applications and Data" -- I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just trying to understand what happens on a daily basis.
What happens on a 355 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. daily basis, sir?
When you say he runs the Applications, he's not in there writing code?
The direct reports would be the people that are responsible for all the applications systems in the City. And so that would be a number of people. He also would have responsibility for the services we're providing to our departments moving forward. But in terms of day-to-day work, he's a manager. He leads people. I mean, I really don't understand that question.
So he's going to be in charge of the new Departmental Services Division?
Okay. And 356 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. everybody in that division will report to him?
Ultimately, okay. And with respect to Applications, is that a separate department or is that just a group of people? How would you classify that?
The Division of Technology is organized into major units. One is call Department Services, which is where we are going to be and are consolidating all the departments. We have another group called Applications and Data, and that is the groups that maintain and run and develop all the software and databases, and he has the responsibility for all those people. There is another unit within Division of Technology called Infrastructure. There's another unit called Operations. There's another unit called Business Information Services. So, again, I'm trying to be 357 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. respectful. I don't really understand the question, other than the fact that it's a very large organization and he's got responsibility over a chunk of it.
Well, I'm trying to define his responsibilities as compared to other Deputy CIOs.
So very specifically, the unit called Applications and Data, which is the software and database side, as well as I call it Department Services, and he is my number two.
So with respect to the Executive Assistant position for $50,000, it was unfilled as of the latest increment run that I have. Who is that person supposed to serve and who was performing those functions prior to it being unfilled?
That's your Executive Assistant? 358 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
The Chief of Staff was transferred in from another department.
So reporting to you now, you have a Chief of Staff to handle things and an Executive Assistant?
Okay. With respect to under Business and Improvement Services, you had two unfilled positions at 85,000 a year, Senior Business Analysts. Are those positions still unfilled? 359 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Okay. The Senior Program Manager was a newly created position of $105,000?
-- under Facilities and Infrastructure. Enabling Technology Services, Systems Development, Senior Application Architect, $110,000 a year, two positions.
These positions are in the process of recruiting, sir. 360 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
So they're unfilled. And Senior Application Developer, two positions also unfilled?
I will point out that we have not authorized this funding yet. Systems Development, three unfilled positions. There's no salary on Page -- it's under the Information Management System. There's three newly created positions with the title Systems Development. There's no salary for that category in the Salary Range in Dollars field.
There are seven people. It looks like a total of 565. So roughly 80 grand, salaries.
So they are still unfilled? 361 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
Can you tell me what those three systems development people are going to do and how that job is getting done now?
Well, in general, we need systems development people in order to develop web-based applications, whether it be a part of phila.gov or implementing online functions for any of our departments. It's just a basic skill that you need in order to provide that application support.
And we need full-time people instead of outsourcing that?
A combination of contractors and in-house. I don't think it's a hundred percent one or the other.
I have the same question with respect to the Senior Application Architects. What will those people do?
Application 362 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Architects are actually, in the vernacular, are, in a way, much more senior developers that understand broader software design concepts. Developers tend to just focus on what they're being asked to write. So it's really a level of proficiency. And to your point about using outsiders or insiders, I think the majority of our work will be done with contractors, but you need to have a core group of people from inside the City that effectively intellectually own how all the pieces fit together, so that you can coordinate and manage the development efforts. So, in effect, these architects and this small group are really our seedbed of a small group of very senior professionals that will be augmented by contractors, and, unfortunately, we don't have that level of profession proficiency that we need, sir.
Right. There is a lot of people coming into your 363 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. department, though, and I'm just wondering has there been an assessment of whether or not all of the people who are being transferred from the various departments are actually required in your department?
We have an understanding right -- I can't say that I have a full knowledge of the skills and capabilities of every individual coming in. What we do have currently is obviously through the City's classification scheme, I have a pretty good understanding of the broad categories of skills that we have, and we've developed a competency survey so that we can understand that better. But as it relates to things like some of the application skills and data skills that I'm speaking of, interacting with our other IT Directors and so forth, we strongly believe we need these skills.
I understand. It doesn't look like you're 364 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. giving anything up through attrition or through other efficiencies with respect to, say, people who have expertise in Fortran or something that we might not need anymore.
Well, what I'm doing -- well, it's an interesting point, because what I am doing, though, is over the next several years, there is a significant number of people that are getting close to retirement or retirement age, so what I am looking at is the timing of that. And so as an example, if at some point we replace our, let's just say, our main frame system with a new system five years out, we do have a very natural attrition built into our plans.
Under Administration -- this is a low dollar, but believe me, I asked the Youth Commission about $11,000 yesterday. Under Administration, General Management and Support, there's TBD, $27,000. 365 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. (Witness approached witness table.)
I'm not sure I have the exact piece of paper you have in front of you, so I'm just trying to reconcile that question, sir.
Okay. I mean, there's a Telecommunication Services Representative going from one position to three positions. What do those people do?
Can you tell us what page you're on in the detail, Councilmember?
I don't think there is a page number in the detail, is there?
It's Communications section, General, under the Division of Technology. 366 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
I don't know. I'll show you. So the question is what those people will do and who has been performing the functions until now. (Witness approached witness table.)
Hi. I'm Tommy Jones, First Deputy Chief Information Officer. Currently -- you asked the question what do those people do. They're going to be part of the staff that maintains that telecommunication system, install phones, make moves. Currently, we have about a 30-day turnaround, because we only have three people doing the 70,000 phones, and we're trying to increase that capacity.
Well, this is a debate for another time, but I don't think we ought to be hiring people for an antiquated system that's not going to exist in a year. You may say two years, but okay. So Communications, General, professional services, paid, NAC, 980,000, NAC operating costs. What is that?
The paid NAC operating costs are currently the run rate for the operating costs of that wireless network --
I apologize for looking for -- departmental services. Obviously the run we have, which is page -- there is no description, but as 368 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. you know, in 2007 I wrote a paper requesting that we consolidate everybody into the CTO's -- create a CTO, consolidate everybody into the CTO's office. I was pleased to see the Mayor do an Executive Order on that. Part of the purpose of that was to gain efficiencies through the elimination of redundancies that exist in the various departments, and it looks to me like everybody is essentially moving from the department into your department at this point without a thorough review of where there are potential efficiencies through similar skill-sets that come from different departments.
Councilman, we made a decision to move everybody in rather than take the time to do the assessments as you're suggesting, because we thought the assessment process would simply slow up our ability to move everybody, get the consolidation done. So we decided to do the consolidation, 369 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. with the expectation that Allan will complete, because he's already done a rather extensive review of the positions, he'll complete that assessment once he gets a sense, as he said earlier in his testimony, what the skill-sets are for people, what their individual skill levels, how they can contribute to the organization, and that's going to take some time as he gets everybody into the organization.
Now, with that said, Councilman, we painstakingly went through each person, each position with the department person by person, including to identify, in conversation with the department head and others, what was the person's role, what their IT class was, what percentage of time they were doing IT work. So the number that's coming over is a result of that very direct discussion on a person-by-person basis. What I've also agreed to with 370 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. the departments, again, under the proviso of doing no harm, is that as they come in to service a department, I was not going to do anything that would disrupt that department's IT operation given the fact that on one day, they're working for one person, on the next day they're working for another. So actually this is, in my view, absolutely the right way of doing this. So that when we again get in, we have a much better idea of -- we know what they're already doing. Now what we're going to be able to see is the opportunity for people to grow into new roles, those that might want to have the significant training in new areas and so forth, including identifying redundancies and so forth.
Right. I mean, there may even be redundancies, say, between the Information Technology Division and the Departmental Services Division -- 371 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
-- for example, not just within each category, where people can fulfill roles that are applicable to both.
Absolutely, and I've done an analysis by broad job category, so I know how many people across the board we have that are doing technology work versus software versus other categories.
But we are in agreement that ultimately the purpose of this consolidation is the creation of efficiencies?
Okay. And when you say you talked to department heads, how many people were listed in the departments' IT budget in total, or how many people were they allocating towards 372 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. IT and then how many people did you ultimately assume?
Roughly, sir, when we did the initial inventory, there were, give or take, about 750. That includes independently elected offices. By the time we were done going through the detail and really identifying what the people were doing, roughly 100, 105 didn't come over in the consolidation, because they were in fact doing not a high level of IT work, and so they remained in the departments. And so that brings us down to roughly 525 in total, including independently electeds. There's 57 IT people in independently elected, so we're down to like 470 or whatever.
Actually, that's the level I want to stay at for a second. So there were 105 people who were in departmental budgets ostensibly as IT-related people, at least with respect to the way the department was 373 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. submitting things up to the Administration in past years, and those 105 people, are they still in those departments, just not as an IT function anymore?
That would be my understanding, sir, that they are doing work for the departments, they are fully employed and doing that work. They just -- let's just call it either a misclassification, that sort of thing.
Well, I mean, I can't judge that at the moment. But that would be great. So if you could provide the Chair with a list of the job duties of -- not you, but the Budget Office -- a list of the job duties of those 105 people and what they're doing in the departments, I'd be curious to take a look at that. 374 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc.
We have the classifications. We don't have all the job descriptions or job duties. As it turns out, as Mr. Frank was saying, many of the duties that would have been expected based on the title turned out to be something in some cases entirely different than the job title.
Well, it just seems to me that that may be a very fruitful area to find efficiency since they --
Based on the discussions, robust discussions, that I've had with departments, I would agree with you.
Well, let me know if I can assist you in shaking loose --
Shaking the tree. Okay. So with respect to the 375 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. consolidation, the testimony states that the seven mainly grant-funded operations will keep their 102 employees and the elected will keep their own 57 employees. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Those departments that we spoke of that will be under an MOU, physically the people will have their home in that department, but I will have full management responsibility to direct them in every way, shape or form. It just was a facilitating -- just a transition in the accounting. For all intents and purposes, they work for me through that Memo of Understanding.
I understand. And so basically they had to be grant-funded, they couldn't be in your department. Is that essentially correct?
That's exactly right. In fact, we went through an 376 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. exercise of trying to move them into the department and realized that we were conceivably putting some of the grant funds in jeopardy.
But I will be driving the same efficiencies with those departments as I would with anybody else, and that is the understanding of those departments. It's only the independent electeds that I'm really not addressing.
My final question is, during your testimony in not last year's budget season, but I think you came in in the fall, November, December, sort of gave a presentation to Council about the stuff you were working on, and in there you had a suggestion that there were basically, you thought through the effort of consolidation, the opportunity to eliminate about $40 million in Class 200 services contracts. Where does that stand?
Well, when I 377 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. presented that year, the total amount, if I can recall, in Class 200 in the budget at that time was actually a total of 44 million, and so I did say --
Maybe you could reduce it to million. I mean, I 8 have the -- 9
Yeah, but what I 10 said is, I saw a significant opportunity 11 by driving that Class 200 down. And, in 12 fact, it started that process last year, 13 and in many ways that's how I'm funding 14 some -- have been funding some 15 investment, by driving the Class 200 down 16 and then working to reallocate those 17 dollars. And that's the process I'm 18 talking about, revising our IT sourcing 19 so that we can drive the pricing down, 20 reduce both the reliance on -- we had over 97 different vendors, and I think that the rates were all over the place, so what we want to do is drive those rates down and create a consolidated vendor strategy. And then the second 378 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. piece was, which was just going into effect at that time, is, I had gating authority, which means regardless of department, no contract, no dollar could be spent in IT without my approval. So what occurred, in my view, I mean, some of it naturally went away. We had a reduction in video surveillance, but, for instance, going into 2010, if I can recall, the Class 200, my equivalent number went from what I thought was 44 was now down to like 36, and I just see continuing to push those numbers.
So what do you expect to spend through the end of this year in Class 200?
On a consolidated basis, not including the independently electeds, there's roughly a rough number of roughly close to 70 million, 69.9 million of Class 200 when you add up kind of on a pro forma basis all of the Class 200 across.
So that's 379 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. FY10 you'll spend 69 million?
This is '11, going into '11. When I'm talking about what's both coming into DOT through a consolidation, as well as the amount of Class 200 that's currently sitting in those departments that will be MOU'd, represents a total of roughly $69 million of total Class 200 dollars.
2010 -- let's see if I can do an apples to apples. It would be pretty hard for me to do an apples to apples. I wouldn't want to give you that number, but it's significantly higher. I'd really --
If you could provide it to the Chair and also the detail of where that Class 200 expenditure is going to take place for the Department. There is million in 24 capital money that we're considering 25 allocating for the next fiscal year and I 380 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. just am wondering if the Class 200 budget in the Capital Budget are synched in the sense of a lot of the Capital Budget is services, is it not, implementation costs?
Yeah. The Capital Budget relates, let's just call it, these new strategic initiatives, but let me tell you and maybe to help you a little bit. I don't know if you're familiar with the term "zero-based budgeting," but what I started last summer in preparation for the consolidation was starting with 2010, we sat down with each department, including their fiscal officer, and went through line by line every IT dollar, every IT class, what was the Class 200 number, what was the contract, what was the dollar. So I had this baseline of effectively building up what every department was spending on at that time in the IT space. So I think we have a pretty good understanding, and I can tell you 381 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. right now that I don't see the overlap, but be happy to show you between that and this.
And then also what about efficiencies within that 69 million?
What I'm hoping to do, because I'm counting on the ability with the consolidation to be able to drive the Class 200 number down from what it is. Even if we were not changing a single activity, I believe we can do this cheaper. And then when you combine the fact that I believe that in some cases -- this gets back to our manpower -- we're letting out contracts for certain technology where we have plenty of people inside but in other departments that could do that work.
So maybe some of those system architects and analysts can reduce the Class 200 expenditure.
-- I needed contractors to help me with architecture, because we didn't have any. And my hope is, exactly, to have a core team. And where we do need contractors are for these projects, kind of the peaks and valleys and the skills you need.
So in Class 200, is it -- your estimation was a huge savings number. It may have been as much as 50 percent of what you thought the contracting was because of all the disparate service providers in different departments, maybe providing services on the same pieces of software in different 383 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. departments, et cetera. It sounds like that 69 million is sort of what you've identified from all the departments as the expenditure, but it's not -- sort of like moving everybody over in the Departmental Services Division, you sort of move the expenditure over without --
I've maintained separate subsidiary books. I am a CPA, unlicensed at this point. So what we're doing is, we're maintaining effectively separate subsidiary ledgers for every single department, because ultimately what I need to really understand is what does it cost the City on a baseline basis to operate IT in a given department. I don't think we've had clarity and I don't think we have it today. So what I'm saying is, I am maintaining the visibility on a detailed basis for every contract and every cost that we will be expending either for the center or for a department. And what I want to do in 2011, now that we're 384 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. together, is to drive the Class 200 number down, which is professional services. The other I think is a big opportunity is what we call software, just the purchase of software, and that's where the big opportunity is where people are buying -- let me buy a piece of Adobe Flash here. And I think also we're buying off of reseller lists historically one-offs, instead of saying if we buy enough of them, let's have an Enterprise license. So what I'm hoping to do is drive, let's just say, all of this kind of random spend down to the point where we can leverage that and reinvest it in. What I did say last year is I hoped that over the five-year period, that we could reinvest as much as 50 million, is what I said, over the five-year period through savings, and that was my hope at the time.
Right. How 385 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. much do you think we can save through the software -- purchasing software more smarter, more -- better?
I really can't -- I don't want to give you a specific dollar figure.
I think we should be able to get 10 to 20 percent out of our software purchase.
Okay. And with respect to the 69 million, I just want to be clear, that's in your budget even though you're keeping subsidiary books or it's in the departmental budgets and you're keeping track of it?
The departments that physically transfer into DOT will be 386 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. in my budget physically and I will be maintaining, within my chart of accounts, separate departmental kind of subdivision breakouts.
Right, but the $69 million, is that Class 200 in your department?
Councilmember, if you look at Section 21, , the summary, departmental, all funds.
Purchase of services, Class 200, 60.4 million. That doesn't include the departments for which there's an MOU as well.
Great. Thank you. Thank you very much for your testimony. I appreciate it.
I'd ask the Commissioner of Records to please 387 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. approach the witness table. (Witnesses approached witness table.)
Commissioner, thank you for your patience and your courtesy. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Sure.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Good afternoon, Commissioner Decker. I guess it's -- when is the evening hour, 6:00 or 5:00? I have the same sort of questions that I have for every department. You just heard me explain what they are to Mr. Frank. I appreciate your patience. Starting with the 31,000 per year Legal Assistant in the Document Recording Division, has that position been filled? 388 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
And what does that person do? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's in the Document Recording area, so that person examines documents for recording cashiers and may be asked to do some other duties in that area as well.
Also in the Document Recording Division, it appears that one of five budgeted Title Registration Aide II positions -- COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
-- was vacant. Has that been filled? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes.
And what does that person do? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That is also in the Document Recording area, similar duties, examining documents for recording, cashiering the information and also some other related duties.
In the 389 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Records Management Division, there is a 57,000 per year position titled Records Management Analyst. COMMISSIONER DECKER: That position was really translated or moved over into a Title Registration Aide. So it's filled as a Title -- it is filled and it's filled as a Title Registration Aide.
So that line item in your budget is unnecessary, then? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's correct.
Okay. That's $57,000. That's very exciting to me. Finally, in the Registration Division -- sorry. Last year I asked about the status, cost and projected savings of the electronic repository project. The response was that the project analysis was due to be complete by the end of FY09 and that a copy would be provided to Council. 390 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. Is the project complete? COMMISSIONER DECKER: The project is one of the projects that's underway by DOT. I think it was suspended, did not get underway until recently. It will be started up again. So there is nothing yet implemented, but I believe the conceptual framework will be the next step to be taken.
But the project analysis we were told would be completed by the end of FY09 and that a copy would be provided to Council. Is the project analysis complete? COMMISSIONER DECKER: The project analysis is not complete. Again --
But you're already -- COMMISSIONER DECKER: Resources were not available during the year. There was a question as to whether that particular project would be resourced, and I was informed recently that it will 391 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. be resourced and it is moving forward.
But nothing is moving forward before the analysis is complete; is that correct? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That's correct.
When will the analysis be complete? COMMISSIONER DECKER: I would have to work with Allan Frank on that. I have identified some of the information that would be needed from a records management perspective. I believe I attached that to the information that we provided to you last year, and that includes particular kind of metadata that would be required so that the records could be appropriately managed, retained for as long as they need to be retained, searched as they need to be searched and disposed of even in the electronic age when they are no longer required.
Thank you. What are the potential savings 392 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. from implementing an electronic repository? COMMISSIONER DECKER: You would have to ask Allan Frank that question.
Would it include efficiency gains in direct costs like the 120,000 per year the City spends for couriers to retrieve documents from storage? COMMISSIONER DECKER: I believe the electronic repository will be a day-forward implementation. So that means that as new records are created in the electronic format -- it's really around electronic formats -- that there would be efficiencies that would be gained. So that for the many concepts that have been discussed here with other City agencies and in past years, we all know that to the extent that paper doesn't have to be moved from office to office and that once a record is created and stored electronically, it can be easily accessed multiple times by many 393 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. people through the City. That in itself will -- from that will be derived many efficiencies. But I don't believe that the project moving forward -- again, it's a day forward. It's not a backwards conversion, so there will still be some records that will be available in paper form. There does not seem to be a good business case to convert them. Some of the documents that are usually retained in the storage center, although they are still requested, they are more or less in a less active stage in their development life or the life cycle. So it would not make sense to convert them. You wouldn't derive as much bang for your buck, so to speak, if you were to work on those records. You really want to focus all of your attention and all of your resources going forward in making sure that newly created records are created in an electronic environment.
Great. When did the records reform team start 394 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. reviewing the review of agency records' retention schedules? COMMISSIONER DECKER: That initiative was started in the fall. We have been working with the Law Department and the various lawyers that are assigned to agency records. It is still ongoing. I meet with the person who was coordinating from the Law Department on pretty much a biweekly basis. Some of the retention schedules are quite lengthy for City agencies and they do require a lot of research. They also require, as we're reviewing them, a lot of interaction with the agencies themselves. The retentions are driven not only by legal requirements, but they also are driven by operational needs. So we have to coordinate the efforts among multiple interested parties in this whole initiative, but it has been underway since approximately the fall.
Have any findings been made? 395 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Yes. We have had recommendations and suggestions on about six of the schedules, and we're still doing a final review on those schedules.
What are the expected dollar savings, including those from efficiency gains, of the retention schedule reform project? COMMISSIONER DECKER: Well, I think the objective was to make sure, number one, that the records were being kept for the required timeframe, were there any possibilities to reduce the retention timeframe. I don't have an exact answer for you. It's a mixed bag. In some cases it was determined that some of the records could be retained for a less lengthy period of time. However, in other cases it was determined that we needed to retain the records for as long as had been stated. So it's really a mixed bag on that. One of the objectives of a 396 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. related objective to that particular initiative was not only to determine the required retention, but also to make sure that we had the current view of what the departments and agencies were actually creating and holding. So there were multiple purposes, not only to streamline but also to confirm that the schedules are up to date.
Great. Thank you very much. I have no further questions. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Thank you.
Thank you very much, Commissioner. COMMISSIONER DECKER: Thank you.
This Committee will stand in recess until tomorrow, Wednesday, March the 24th at 10:00 a.m. Thank you very much. (Committee of the Whole 397 3/23/10 - WHOLE - BILL 100117, etc. recessed at 5:20 p.m.) - - - 398 CERTIFICATE I HEREBY CERTIFY that the proceedings, evidence and objections are contained fully and accurately in the stenographic notes taken by me upon the foregoing matter on March 23, 2010, and that this is a true and correct transcript of same. ______________________________ MICHELE L. MURPHY RPR-Notary Public (The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means, unless under the direct control and/or supervision of the certifying reporter.)