civus
Hearing video

ZBA Hearing - February 12, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 12, 20255h 35m

prior approval for three units. I also include in this packet prior to that zoning variance,

Similar wording

there was also a permit for two units at this property. We have most of this work already done

Similar wording

that was done with contractors and permits and all permitted by the city. We have G-Space is a

Similar wording

company I work with a lot, and they are fantastic, and they will get this project done. They're not

Similar wording

going to ghost her again. We'll have a completed project with people living in this property

Similar wording

pretty quickly after this would be approved. We have community support, and we also have that

Similar wording

this is not in um really out of character for what how this block is currently being used

Similar wording

um when you bring your client or aurora if you can um please raise your hand

Similar wording

so that they can um they can promote you to panelists

Similar wording

not like it's like okay they should be coming in as a panelist shortly thank you jason walk

Similar wording

All right, Jacob.

Similar wording

Do we share?

Similar wording

If she's not there, there's G Space,

Similar wording

either Angela or Michael Bucci could verify my testimony.

Similar wording

Jason, who do we see?

Similar wording

Jason, who do we see?

Similar wording

Aurora Jacobs, Howard.

Similar wording

Aurora Jacobs has already been promoted to panelist.

Similar wording

Okay, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

Similar wording

Aurora Jacobs, please unmute.

Similar wording

Aurora?

Similar wording

Aurora?

Similar wording

Counsel, you're an officer of the court.

Similar wording

We will accept your testimony.

Similar wording

I did just want to clarify something.

Similar wording

There's only one bathroom per floor.

Similar wording

I was confused.

Similar wording

I apologize.

Similar wording

I was confusing my project.

Similar wording

So it's two bedrooms, one bathroom.

Similar wording

Okay, I did.

Similar wording

I think you have Aurora now.

Similar wording

Aurora, are you there?

Similar wording

Hi, Aurora.

Similar wording

Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

Similar wording

I'm here.

Similar wording

Yes, I'm here.

Similar wording

Could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

Similar wording

Aurora Jacob.

Similar wording

A-U-R-O-R-A.

Similar wording

First name, Jacob, J-A-C-O-D.

Similar wording

Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

Please proceed, counsel.

Similar wording

Aurora, did you hear my testimony here today and believe it to be truthful and accurate?

Similar wording

Say it again, please.

Similar wording

Did you hear my testimony here?

Similar wording

Yes, I did.

Similar wording

And do you believe it to be accurate?

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

And would you adopt it as your own?

Similar wording

Yes, it's mine.

Similar wording

Okay, thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

questions from the board questions or comments more attorney hillary emerson

Similar wording

not at this time mr questions or comments from the virtual audience

Similar wording

chair i do not see any further hands raised

Similar wording

thank you chairman good morning david vector with the city planning commission

Similar wording

Chairman and board members, the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the RSA-5 residential single-family zoning at this location.

Similar wording

This property was previously granted a permit for three dwelling units.

Similar wording

The proposal matches the previously approved use.

Similar wording

The City Planning Commission recommends that the board grant a proposed use variance for three dwelling units.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

MI 2024-005-778-523 Tasker Street, I vote yes.

Similar wording

with proviso maximum three units johns my vote is yes with proviso

Similar wording

cheryl gaston my vote is yes with proviso tenetta graham my vote is yes with proviso

Similar wording

i am one my vote is yes with proviso thank you so much thank you counsel thank you

Similar wording

number nine mi 2024 005 996 2506 north 16th street raymond de rizzo is the attorney

Similar wording

They should be coming back in as a panel, Mr. Chair.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Good morning, Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

Similar wording

You've already been sworn.

Similar wording

Just state your name for the record.

Similar wording

Yes, Raymond Dorizio, last name D-O-R-I-Z-I-O, and I'm here on 2506.

Similar wording

Okay, and for a point of information, we do have a letter of non-agreement from the Allegheny West Civic Association, and as we spoke earlier, there was also a request for a continuance, but we're going to go on with the case. Could you identify your client, their relationship to this property?

Similar wording

Yes, my client is Terrell Parlin. He's the owner of the property.

Similar wording

All right, and Tanetta Graham has a few questions for you, our board member.

Similar wording

Good morning. Did you submit your documents five days in advance of this hearing?

Similar wording

yes okay and do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and do you stipulate to his accuracy

Similar wording

yes thank you you may proceed thank you so if i can share my screen i'm just looking at where i

Similar wording

can do that i'll pull up the packet but essentially this is a three-story property

Similar wording

oh i see it i'm sorry it's at the bottom um

Similar wording

okay so 2506 North 16th Street uh this is a three-story property my client was I believe

Similar wording

before the board I wasn't representing him then in 2013 and I believe it was approved for three

Similar wording

units at that time this project he is looking to extend the third floor in the same footprint as

Similar wording

the rest of the building, which brought a refusal of the minimum rear yard depth, he's at about

Similar wording

five foot four inches, he needs nine feet. The other use having three dwelling units is prohibited.

Similar wording

We did meet with the Allegheny West Civic Association, I believe they did provide a

Similar wording

letter, I believe the vote was 3-3, so there was no opposition or support on that.

Similar wording

So there was no opposition or support on that.

Similar wording

My client does own other buildings.

Similar wording

He's familiar with the neighborhood.

Similar wording

I believe he grew up there.

Similar wording

Just going to scroll through if I can to get to some photos.

Similar wording

The deed, he bought the property in 2005.

Similar wording

And again, in 2014, I think he moved forward to try to get the use.

Similar wording

this is one photo of the plan showing the floor where he wants to uh extend and do the addition

Similar wording

over the um second floor as you see on the right where there is a bit of a you know

Similar wording

roof over the second floor he wants to fill that in and do a roof deck um this is a posting of the

Similar wording

notice this is the front of the property obviously it's in disrepair it needs everything it's a

Similar wording

total rehab there's a vacant lot next to it um it's on 16th street at borders west cumberland

Similar wording

and west hunter and street um there is kipps elementary kipps middle school i believe across

Similar wording

the street um so they're not much density there as far as housing this is a shot from the back

Similar wording

the alleyway um and that would be from west cumberland street showing the back of the houses

Similar wording

This is a front view, three stories. Here is the side of the house next to the lot. There is a little breezeway there. This is a window well, which is at that breezeway for the basement. Here's some inside photos of the property.

Similar wording

Again, it's an absolute total rehab.

Similar wording

This was the letter from Allegheny West Civic Association.

Similar wording

We didn't meet with them.

Similar wording

I believe it was indicated that we answered all the questions that they had for us.

Similar wording

We have the tax clearance and we also have notices.

Similar wording

So if I can just go to another screen and just.

Similar wording

Open this. So essentially the units would be three units. The basement will be included. So the basement of first floor is one unit. That would be three bedrooms and two and a half baths.

Similar wording

Then the second and third floor would each be one unit with two bathrooms, two bedrooms.

Similar wording

There is space for utilities in the units.

Similar wording

They're about a thousand square feet per unit.

Similar wording

First floor would be bigger.

Similar wording

Trash wise, we spoke with that with the community.

Similar wording

We can either do trash closets or trash can be put out the first floor yard.

Similar wording

Second floor has a little balcony and the third floor would have the roof deck access.

Similar wording

So it could be outside or inside. Again, we left it open for the community. My client was willing to do that either way. I believe he was going to have, and we made note of this, the tankless hot water heaters in the units where utilities would be.

Similar wording

And I believe in 2014, I'm not sure my client didn't get the permit to actually do the work, whether it was a financial issue or not.

Similar wording

He just didn't follow through with it at that time. The house has kind of been sitting there.

Similar wording

But again, it needs a lot of work. And essentially, you know, he's seeking he has run other multifamily units in the past.

Similar wording

um you know obviously he made himself uh known to the community gave his information then if

Similar wording

there's any problems if the project were to be variance would be granted going forward to

Similar wording

um address those issues um so with that i guess um if the board would like i could call my client

Similar wording

why don't you bring your client on okay mr parlin

Similar wording

for my other plan

Similar wording

what is the name of the individual again

Similar wording

Parlin, Terrell Parlin

Similar wording

P-A-R-L-I-N

Similar wording

okay they should be coming back in as a panel shortly

Similar wording

thank you

Similar wording

sorry can you hear me and could you please state your name and spell for this stenographer

Similar wording

terrell t-e-r-r-e-l-l last name parlin p-a-r-l-i-n do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the

Similar wording

whole truth nothing but the truth yes counsel please proceed thank you mr parlin did you hear

Similar wording

Thank you. Mr. Parlin, did you hear my presentation made to the board? Yes. Okay. And was my testimony truthful and accurate to the best of your knowledge, information and belief? Yes. And do you wish to adopt it as your own? Yes. Okay. I have nothing further, sir. Thank you. Mr. DeRizio, let me ask you a question. What's the rest of the block look like?

Similar wording

my presentation.

Similar wording

The rest of the block, sorry, I'm going to just switch, are other three-story dwellings.

Similar wording

I believe I had some photos, if I can just get over to that.

Similar wording

Other three-story dwellings, there's a couple vacant lots, or at least one.

Similar wording

and then we have the school on the other side of the street yep um so this was a photo of the

Similar wording

corner to um cumberland street um those are the two story on my client's block i guess we have the

Similar wording

um photos here they're mostly from what i could see i guess the question i'm asking is are they

Similar wording

are they multifamily yes yes my client's familiar with the neighborhood mr parlin you aware of other

Similar wording

multi-family properties operating on the block yes so you got the 2500 which is a commercial

Similar wording

plus um two apartments that's on the corner right next door to me that's a section a which is a

Similar wording

duplex uh 1530 which is right down the street is also a triplex off of york street okay thank you

Similar wording

questions for the board. What's the depth of the basement below grade? Oh, I got over eight feet.

Similar wording

No, the depth of the basement below the pavement below grade. I got to get somebody to look that

Similar wording

one up. I didn't. Was there a section of the building? I saw something. Yeah, I have pictures

Similar wording

of it these are like i have that and i have the i can just pull up my other screen

Similar wording

does that does that uh elevation show what the with the with the what the height of the first

Similar wording

floor is above grade um it looks like it may in this photo zoom into grade so i'm trying to

Similar wording

yeah it's right here at the bottom

Similar wording

I can't

Similar wording

it's hard to see a actual

Similar wording

measurement there

Similar wording

but it shows

Similar wording

can you zoom in on that

Similar wording

sure if I can

Similar wording

I'm sorry so this would

Similar wording

be where grade in the

Similar wording

basement exists

Similar wording

you're

Similar wording

so

Similar wording

five feet six feet

Similar wording

it says

Similar wording

four foot eight

Similar wording

below yeah four to eight feet yeah it looks like four foot four foot eight inches below yes

Similar wording

four foot eight inches i'm sorry that's i didn't see the offer of that but i guess that's a

Similar wording

bit of concern for the night but go but go ahead or so you're planning to dig out the basement

Similar wording

because four feet and four foot eight plus three is minus a foot is like seven feet.

Similar wording

So if it's going to be eight, you're going to dig it out a foot, which puts you close to six feet below.

Similar wording

So my concern is just the depth below grade for living space.

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

That's my guess.

Similar wording

That also doesn't meet code.

Similar wording

It has to be seven foot eight for three quarters of the basement ceiling.

Similar wording

I just want to make sure I understood you

Similar wording

Because I know I did a measurement

Similar wording

Of the height from the

Similar wording

You know just a regular tape measure for myself

Similar wording

And I got over

Similar wording

Seven feet down there now

Similar wording

Without digging

Similar wording

Okay

Similar wording

Other questions from the board

Similar wording

Questions or comments

Similar wording

from our attorney hillary emerson not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual

Similar wording

audience planning i do not see any further hands mr chair thank you jason planning commission

Similar wording

thank you chairman and good morning good afternoon david vector with the city planning commission

Similar wording

chairman and board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the rsa5 residential

Similar wording

residential single-family zoning at this location the city changed the zoning maps in north central

Similar wording

single-family zoning at this location the city changed this

Similar wording

in 2014 in accord with recommendations in the comprehensive plan at that time this property

Similar wording

was zoned rm1 residential multifamily this property received a use permit in 2014 prior

Similar wording

to those zoning map changes but apparently the work was never completed the character of this

Similar wording

block phase is primarily a mix of single family dwellings and duplexes. So the city planning

Similar wording

commission recommends the board grant a proposed use variance for multifamily dwellings with a

Similar wording