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ZBA Hearing - October 18, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 18, 20236h 22m

no hands chair planning commission thank you chair bergman and board members good

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afternoon david effect of city planning commission the comprehensive plan

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recommends no change to the residential single-family zoning in this location

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this property has a documented history as two dwelling units

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and so the city planning commission recommends the board grant the proposed

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use variance for two dwelling units thank you

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mi2023 is 001 770 1022 dickerson street i vote yes

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thomas holloman my vote is yes

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if you know shaheed my vote is yes thank you you have your votes thank you

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is there anyone in the virtual audience whose case has not been called

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yes chair joseph consul has a hand raised okay

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yes chair joseph council has a hand raised

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good morning mr consul excuse me that's not joseph consul that's joseph caffon he is the

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owner oh i'm sorry i yeah i pronounced that wrong joseph caffon

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hi mr caffon your case is over and you have your votes oh okay thank you thank you sure

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Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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No hands, Chair.

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Okay, Sierra, you want to two o'clock.

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Thank you.

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We can start now, right?

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Yes, we already have 51 attendees.

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Okay.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing the ZBA hearings this afternoon.

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With me is our Vice Chair, Ismail Shahid.

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I'm present, Mr. Chairman.

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Our board member, Thomas Holliman.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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And our board member, James Snell.

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Present, Chair.

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Also present is our attorney, Hillary Emerson, and our executive director, Tanya Sunkett.

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Here's our virtual format.

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Be advised if proceedings are being recorded.

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The video will be available by contacting tanyasunkett at phil.gov.

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For the benefit of our court stenographer, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone and you wish to testify, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute.

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To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548.

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Leave your email and address for the property in question.

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And finally, the question and answer box on the screen is now for comments or testimony.

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Well, comments should be directed to our executive director, Tanya Sumpkin.

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Let's look at our schedule this afternoon.

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Number four, MI 2023-003-487-90 Rochelle Avenue.

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This case is continued attorney moving party.

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Are there any other requests for continuances?

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Good afternoon, Chair.

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I see no hands.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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And then number 13.

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Number 13.

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MI 2023.

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004-266-1458 North 30th Street.

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This is the first listing.

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Listing.

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No exhibits.

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The applicant is Herman Herman.

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Kevin Bryan is the listed owner.

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no hands chair okay thank you so mi 2023 004 266 1453 north 30 street this case is continued

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mark must be tried let's look at our add-on list

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with you

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MI 2023-003-246-2990 Southampton Road. This case is continued until next Wednesday.

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We will vote on this at 2 p.m.

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MI 2023-003-182-2832-34 East Pacific Avenue.

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I vote yes.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes.

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If you know Shaheen, I'll vote as yes.

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Number three.

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Hold on one minute.

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Three is.

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Okay.

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Number three, MI 2022-004-487-6016, Bingham.

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I vote yes.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes.

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James Snell Shaheed, my vote is yes.

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We're going to go to our regular list.

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Number one.

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MI 2023-002-336-251 Granaugh Street.

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This is a resumptive hearing.

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Alan Nockamson is the attorney.

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Alan Nockamson is the attorney.

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You

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Sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. Proceed.

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Alan Nockamson has been promoted.

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Alan, could you state your name and spell, please, for the court sonographer?

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Good afternoon, Chair. Members of the Board, Alan Nockamson, A-L-A-N, last name Nockamson, N-O-C-H-U-M-S-O-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Okay, so this is a resumptive hearing. It's going to be limited to the discussion of the steep slope criteria in the zoning code.

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and for the Planning Commission to provide their recommendation on the application with

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response from the applicant. The record is otherwise closed. Thank you. Again, good

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afternoon, members of the board. Alan Nockmson of Nockmson PC. May I share my screen? You most

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certainly can, sir. Just to give a quick background because it's been a few months,

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So we're looking to put a single family structure on this RSA 5 property.

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And just as a matter of background, let me just go to the last refusal.

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We have four refusals for this matter.

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Three of them, or actually I think five.

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Yeah, we have five.

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Three of them deal with off-street parking.

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We're seeking to have a front-loading garage in its structure.

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and the reason why we're asking for front-loading parking is that there is no parking allowed on

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that side of the street and this is one of the few occasions where there's no street in front

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of our property we're actually creating a portion of the street from scratch so even if there was

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parking allowed on this side of the street which there's not there is no street where we're in

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front of. We're actually creating two parking spots across the street from where we're creating

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this street that don't exist. And we're asking for a curb cut where we're not taking an off-street

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parking spot off of to create one curb cut for that front-loading garage. The other two refusals

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have to do with the earth-moving plan and the steep slope. And because our steep slope

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is between 15 and 25 percent steep slope. We're required to do an earth moving plan. At the time

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of the original hearing, we did not have one. We have since provided an erosion control plan

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that has been also reviewed by the Philadelphia Water Department, and that's part of your package.

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And we received conceptual approval from the Philadelphia Water Department.

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And then the fifth refusal has to do with the fact that we're over 25% steep slope in certain areas, and we have earth disturbance of over 1,400 square feet.

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So in the virtual audience, I have first the architect in the project, Zamir Garcia.

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I would ask that he be allowed in and be sworn in, and I have some questions regarding the steep slope.

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Okay, thank you.

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Hi, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court sonographer?

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Hi, yes, my name is Zamir Garcia, Z-A-M-I-R.

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That's my thing.

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Okay, I'll do that.

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i'm sorry should i repeat why don't you repeat that please sir uh my name is zamir garcia um

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c-a-m-i-r last name garcia g-a-r-c-i-a do you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes i do please proceed counsel i will let me just uh change the size of

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my exhibit so I can, the board can see it much better.

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Okay, let's get to share it this way.

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So in terms of, again, going back to the earth disturbance refusal, and that's the second of

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the two refusals that have to deal with earth disturbance. We're providing over 1,400 square

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feet of earth disturbance on this steep slope property. Samir, is there a possibility

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uh property um zamir um is there a possibility for us to conform with this deep with this

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requirement uh given the conditions of this property can we do less than 1400 square foot

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of earth disturbance under these circumstances no and why is that the case um the big significant

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contributing earth disturbance to the overage is the creation of the street, which currently

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does not exist. As you can see on this exhibit, that area that's highlighted in red includes

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the developed new cartway that connects to the existing street, the sidewalk up along the curb

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there and then there's the extension of the red part into the property line which includes an area

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to allow the building to connect to the sidewalk so that area that you're talking about in terms

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of earth disturbance where the street is going to be essentially created anew by our client

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is 1,231 square feet. Is that right? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So in essence, then we would only have 169

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square feet of earth disturbance allowing our client to build a building structure.

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Correct. Okay. So in essence, it's almost impossible for us to comply with that section

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of the code. Yes, it is impossible. Thank you, Zamir. Oh, and then the other thing is one more

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thing. In terms of the protections that you have built in to your design regarding the steep slope,

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can you explain what protective measures you have placed to make sure that this is a responsibly

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built property uh yes so the majority of the home um actually the whole portion of the mass

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of the building footprint is supported above this the steep slope on um clusters that go

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into the ground so everything's the whole home is floating above the steep slope so that it can

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it doesn't sit on the grade because the grade is sloped such that the street part is the highest

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portion you you're actually coming in to the home on the third floor and then the rest of the home

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there's one floor above that and then the rest of the home is below the street level

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RESTING ON THE FILLERS.

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GOTCHA. AND I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER EXHIBIT WHICH KIND OF GOES

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TO SHOWING THE STEEP SLOPES. SO LET ME JUST TRY TO GET TO THAT ONE.

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I THOUGHT THAT WAS HERE.

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LET ME STOP SHARING MY SCREEN FOR A SECOND.

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I'm going to take a little bit.

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All right.

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This is a plan that was prepared by Rogerio Plant as part of our steep slope presentation.

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You indicated that our building structure is, if you look in the screen, essentially right in this section of the property, right?

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Yes, that's correct.

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And the steepness of over 25% is more towards the front and the rear portions of the property. Is that correct?

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Yes, that's correct.

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So you purposefully focus situating the building structure in the least steep part of the property.

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that is correct and you also then put footers in that portion of the property to make it

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structurally stable yes um i have no further questions for for samir and um i i also have the

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um individual who prepared the erosion plan if the board feels so inclined to ask any questions

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about the erosion plan why don't you bring them along we'll hear his testimony we can okay

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Thank you.

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Would that be Kyle Dowdy?

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Yes.

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He's been allowed to speak.

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Good afternoon. My name is Kyle Dowdy.

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Kyle, could you spell your name for the court reporter?

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Certainly. First name is Kyle, K-Y-L-E, last name Dowdy, D-O-W-D-Y.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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Kyle, I'm going to reshare my screen here, if you don't mind, Mr. Chair.

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This is a document that you prepared in connection with the soil erosion plan.

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Is that correct?

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That is correct.

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Okay.

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Okay. And what does the pink portion of this plan indicate?

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This indicates any slopes steeper than 25%.

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Gotcha. And that is in the front portion of the property where it's a majority of the front

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portion of the property and then the rear portion of the property. Is that right?

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That is correct.

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um i have no questions um for okay uh for kyle if the board has no further questions

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any questions from the board no chair no we're fine now

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um so hillary my understanding where we'll go next is uh planning right and then alan

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will have a chance to respond to that yes mr chair okay planning commission this is uh ron bednar

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city planning first name ron r-o-n last name bednar b-e-d-n-a-r do you swear a firm to tell

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the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do please proceed right so the comprehensive plan

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recommends no change to existing industrial zone mixed use zoning at this location uh recent

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zoning remapping has sought to limit the expansion of residential uses adjacent to i-95 for the

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purpose ron ron i it's this is not the case you excuse me this case is uh

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uh 251 green all street it's you know that's okay got it

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hold on one second right

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