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ZBA Hearing - October 27, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 27, 20215h 40m

hopefully to purchase this property upon zoning approval and our certificate of tax clearance.

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So first things first, this is an RSA 5 property. We have no dimensional refusals. The only refusal

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we have here is for our requested for family dwelling, which will be a condominium. The owner

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this property, Keith Aliats, has in the past done work in Philadelphia. He focuses on these

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corner properties. He feels like that's the most appropriate use to have these multifamily

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structures, multiple forms of egress, to have garbage stored in the rear for light and air

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purposes. So he focuses on these boutique condominium buildings in Philadelphia. You'll

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old kensington neighborhood association uh again overwhelming support for this project

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and as you can see in here uh akna and their neighbors are excited about the fact that the

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proposed project brings home ownership to our community that was very important to them

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especially the affordability aspect of it like many neighborhoods in philadelphia there's been

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new construction with a focus on single family new construction which has priced a lot of people

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out of these neighborhoods, they want a diversity of housing, which will make it more affordable

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for people to stay and to move into a lot of these neighborhoods in Philadelphia.

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So you can see the permit. Again, this was a four-family dwelling back in 1985 before it was

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knocked down. You can see maps of the area. We're right off of a commercial corridor,

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we're right off of a commercial quarter germantown avenue again from a city planning perspective

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Germantown Avenue. Again, from a city planning perspective.

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it makes sense to have density as close to a commercial quarter as possible to support that

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commercial quarter and especially when you're dealing with a corner property as well maps of

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the area from a google perspective photographs of the property you can see we're a vacant lot

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we're a regular shape lot but what you can see is next door is multi-family next door

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side of the property from west montgomery avenue to the right of the property on north 5th to the

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left of the property on north 5th to the right of the property on west montgomery to the left of the

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property on west montgomery again the multi-family structure at 1802 north 5th street which is right

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next door to us and just examples of the interior of other projects mr aliotts and this company has

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done in the past. As you can see, they really focus on having quality materials in there

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for their new construction projects. Example, the bathroom, example, the delivery room with

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an open floor plan. Again, just an example with more of a rendering of what his properties

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look when used. Example of a bedroom. And then just our plans and drawings. Again, what

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we're trying to do is a traditional brick facade with a modern touch. Again, you can

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see there's multiple forms of egress for this building. And then just to kind of go through

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the drawings, you know, quickly, let me just first floor plan. So unit number one, you

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go through Fifth Street. It's a bi-level, lower level, and first floor. You have an

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open floor plan on the first floor. And then you go down to the lower level where you have

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additional living unit number two is you one of the entrances on montgomery avenue again you go

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you go in direct access you have an open floor plan on the first floor as well as the lower level

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as well as access to the rear everyone has access to rear in terms of garbage so you see here the

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receptacle so everyone has access that would be a common element in the condo uh the second the

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third and fourth units you go up the this separate entrance to the second floor the second floor has

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unit number three which is the whole floor right here again right there and you go up to the third

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floor and that is unit number four which is right here our application for appeal

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proof of mailing to you know in terms of our community notice just going to make a little

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bigger you can see that we had our meeting in mid-september we notified 66 addresses of this

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meeting you know the addresses that were sent and our proof of mailing and then the remaining

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documents are just our agreement of sale showing that we have an interest in this property as well

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as a certificate of tax clearance where we are in good standing with the city with that being said

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um i have mr aliats on the line so mr aliats can you virtually raise your hand

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mr aliats you can unmute yourself and wait for the chair

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yes please spell your first and last name

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Sure. Keith, K-E-I-T-H, last name Alliotz, A-L-L-I-O, T as in Tom, T as in Tom, S as in Sam.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Thank you. Mr. Knockinson?

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Mr. Alliotz, you heard everything I stated today.

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Yes.

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And is it true and correct?

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Yes.

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And do you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes.

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Great. Thank you.

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Any questions from the board?

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no mr chairman no no anyone else would like to testify in this case please raise your hand

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chair we have slow folks with his hand up mr folks you can unmute yourself and wait for the chair

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mr folks i think you're still under oath from earlier today please identify yourself for the

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record yes chairman chico my name is sloan folks s-l-o-a-n-e-f as in fire o-l-k-s representing

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the office of council one maria quinones sanchez room 508 city hall uh the applicant having met

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with the uh coordinating rco and receiving a letter of support uh the councilwoman offers

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no opposition to this various request thank you thank you anyone else to testify in this case

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Chair, we have

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Frances Mangubat

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Ms. Mangubat, you can unmute yourself or wait for the chair.

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Ms. Mangubat, you can

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unmute yourself and wait for the chair

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Thank you

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Hello, can you hear me?

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Sir, good afternoon. Please spell your full name.

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My name is Francis Mangubat, F-R-A-N-C-I-S, Mangubat, M-A-N-G-U-B-A-T.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Please proceed.

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Yep. So I live on 1917, or I own a property on 1917 Lawrence Street. There's not a lot of action going on on this corner of Fifth Street. I think just having a corner property with density, bringing more people into this area is just going to make the neighborhood better, especially in a city where development costs are so expensive and other developers are staying away from this project.

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And on top of that, this developer builds an incredible product and just way better than other developers.

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Other developers put like, you know, the metal side, the corrugated metal or like the hardy to save money.

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This developer puts up brick and a very quality product.

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Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. Anyone else to testify?

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there are no other hands at this time chair thank you planning commission

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good afternoon chair peter bernard for the planning commission this property is indicated

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for single family residential in the comprehensive plan we feel the proposal represents an overuse

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and the applicant has failed to demonstrate a hardship the multi-family use is not grandfathered

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in at this location while the triangular lot is unusual nothing about the lot justifies the

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proposed higher density accordingly the planning commission recommends the board deny the variances

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okay mi 2021.0029241800 north fifth street my vote is yes confessor plaza yes

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James Snell yes

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Thomas Holliman

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my vote is yes

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thank you

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number case number 4

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MI 2021

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that's 003376

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1718

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Fairmount Avenue

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Mr. Boland you're still

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under oath from earlier

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and Mr. Bertil you're under

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oath as well

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so

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So, I guess, who goes first here?

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Mr. Bolin?

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Mr. Bolin, if you're still in the room, please raise your hand.

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Or Mr. Battelle.

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How do you want to proceed?

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Yes, I'm here.

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I'm sorry.

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When it was making me, panelists, it blacked out.

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You want to proceed with your case?

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And then we'll hear from the appellate.

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Sure.

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I mean, if Mr. Bolin doesn't want to start with his appeal, I'm happy to do so.

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Mr. Chair, I apologize.

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I think we can streamline this a lot if I go first.

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Okay.

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Terrific.

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So I'm not sure whether or not Ms. Saleta got a chance to review the applicant's letter. I got it at about 830 last night. But based upon what is in that letter, this is a lot simpler than I thought it would be, because the applicant ignored our primary argument here.

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there's I'll just walk you through a summary and then I'll walk you through in more detail

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the sole issue here on appeal is whether a non-conforming structure that occupies 100%

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of the lot when the code only allows 75% can be gutted and have the interior reconfigured

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so they get rid of two floors inside the existing structure and they have three which would increase

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the square footage within that non-conforming structure. Here, I believe the examiner got

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confused because it's a little weird because there's a fourth floor addition. As far as today's

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concerned, the fourth floor addition means nothing. We're not challenging anything with respect to the

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fourth floor addition. It's just what can they do inside the existing building envelope. As I'll

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explain section 143056G of the code, it governs renovations of non-conforming structures. And it

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says you cannot increase the square footage when you engage in interior renovations. And here,

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this isn't a de minimis. This is about a 50% increase to go from two floors to three floors.

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and this might still be in the board's mind, but there was a long hearing back in April involving

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And this might still be in the board's mind, but

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there were

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this, and at that hearing, there was a refusal for height, and the applicant actually agreed

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that Ellen and I had missed a second refusal, which was that the fourth floor needed to only

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occupy 75% of the lot, so they refiled their plans here, and they fixed the height refusal

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by using a bonus, and they got rid of some of the additional space on the fourth floor.

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But at that last hearing, there was an unresolved legal issue, and that was the same issue we

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raised today. Can you demolish the two existing floors and add three? And I don't know on what

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basis the board made its decision and whether or not that came into play because there was a

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height variance. But as the board knows, it denied the variance. So we're here today. This is a very

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simple, I'll try to speed it along. This is a 35-foot hall building. It has two stories. It

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occupies 100% of the lot. It's non-conforming because under CMX2, you can only occupy 75%

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of the lot as an intermediate lot. And here it occupies 100%. The plans that were submitted last

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night um by the applicant um show that we're that the plan here is to demolish the two floors

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and to add three with it um and here's here's the argument the argument is pretty simple

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and if i can share my screen

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if what I have up here is my letter which um has excerpt from um section 143056 of the code

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governing non-conforming structures and I'm just going to scroll down to the subsection

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here, which is G. And that provides here repairs or renovation of a non-conforming structure or

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site improvement that brings the structure or site improvement into greater compliance

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with the building code as permitted. It then goes on and states that

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interior work, which does not result in increased gross floor area. And here,

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this is not a permitted repair or renovation because it increases the gross floor area.

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So what we simply want is L&I to issue a refusal and to go back through the process. It's as simple

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as that. That's the primary argument here. The other argument, which is quite frankly academic

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because it's a fallback argument, is that under the first provision here of subsection six,

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It states that a non-conforming structure, if you expand or extend it, that it does not increase any existing non-conformity.

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And here we believe, because you have a non-conforming structure, that by increasing the density within that non-conforming structure, you are increasing the existing non-conformity.

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We are not contending that they can't build the fourth floor up.

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they can do that. They're limiting it to 75% of the occupied area, which the code allows. That's

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fine. They just can't take this space and make it infinitely larger inside. That's the problem here.

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We also argued about the one-year rule. And again, Mr. Chairman, this is completely academic

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because if they missed a refusal the first time and the second time, the one-year rule,

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it's academic. It really would only come into play if you rule in my favor today and we have

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subsequent zoning board hearing so again that that really isn't that really is not important today

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but if the board wants I can take them through anything else in more detail

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I just think this is a pretty simple legal issue and I don't want to waste any of the board's time

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thank you for that does the board have any questions for Mr. Boland no Mr. Chairman no

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Mr. Bertil. Thank you, Mr. Chair. If I'm going in the right order or not in the wrong order,

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just let me know. I see Ms. Culligan, I believe, is present as well. So we'll go with you,

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Mr. Bertil, then we'll go back to the city. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So let me start here.

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I'm pleased and surprised, but pleased to hear that counsel for the appellant is stating that

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the addition on the property um is not an issue here um the the the the appeal that was filed

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made um in multiple paragraphs mentioned of it and had addressed that issue um but i won't

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address that if um if council is con is uh is is stating that that is not an issue of his appeal

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um because we believe that that that we agree that that's not an issue

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because we believe that we agree that that's not an issue and that addition is by right

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and not an extension of the non-conformance. Now, regarding to council's main point,

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and I'm glad that you still have this section up. I was going to share, but I can just use

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what you have here. Counsel, in his reading of the section, sort of conveniently omitted

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a sentence. What this section states is repairs to a renovation to a non-performance structure

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or site improvement that brings a structure or site improvement into greater compliance

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with the building code is permitted. For the purposes of this section, a repair shall be

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defined as one of the following. A, interior work that does not result in the increased floor area,

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or B, replacement of up to two-thirds of the structural framing members when work involves

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the replacement of any portion of the exterior wall. So what this section is saying is to be

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defined as a repair in this section, you need to meet one of these two definitions. Either the work

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doesn't increase the floor area, or section B, replacement of two, it's up to, it's under two

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thirds of the structural framing members. That section of, this section of the, of the code,

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It's only to establish whether what you're doing is a repair or not. It has nothing to do with whether you can actually increase the floor area of a nonconforming structure. Because if you think about what Mr. Bolin is saying, it essentially doesn't make sense.

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You can't say that you can't increase the ground floor area of a structure, but you can put an addition on the structure.

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I don't know how you can put an addition without increasing the ground floor area.

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It's counterintuitive.

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Furthermore, the ground floor area of the structure is not the nonconformity.

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