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ZBA Hearing - October 28, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 28, 20205h 56m

the street that has no other real commercial activity and is sandwiched between two existing

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residential properties. So you know I disagree with RCO's analysis of the hardship here I believe

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given the current situation with small commercial spaces and also given the location of this

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property being between two multifamily dwellings, to say that it would automatically be a very

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viable commercial space, I think they're disregarding some of the reality of what is

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there. So we again submit that this site being of the narrow width of your standard roll home size

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with a conforming depth of the lot, we believe that it is not the best use to have a commercial

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space on the first floor and we would ask for the board's consideration in granting this variance.

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I'm happy to answer any questions from the board.

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Do you have your client available?

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Yes, I do.

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Joe should be, Joseph should be here.

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His last name is Matt Mazze.

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I'm not very good at spelling it.

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Joe, can you raise your hand so that...

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Yes, I raised my hand.

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Hi, good evening, sir. Please identify yourself with the record, first and last name and address.

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Yes, how are you? My name is Joseph Gitterman. My address is 126 Gardner Street, Philadelphia, PA, 19116.

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And I'm the owner of the lot and 522 West Berkshire.

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Can you spell your last name?

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G-I-T-S-O-T-O-M-E-R-M-A-M.

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We're in a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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Yes, I do.

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Mr. Jin, thank you.

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Joseph, you heard my testimony and representation to the zoning board regarding this case.

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Can you verify that they're true and correct and adopted as your own?

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Yes I do. Thank you. Thank you. Questions from the board? No. Anyone like to testify in this case

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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please raise your hand. Chair, I have slow folks. Mr. Folks, good evening. Please identify yourself

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for the record good evening chairman de chico and members of the zba my name is sloan fuchs s-l-o-a-n-e

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f as a fire o-l-k-s office of councilman maria quinones sanchez room 508 city hall

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19107 do you swear in the firm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes sir i do please proceed thank you sir the applicants having met with the coordinating rco

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and having garnered a letter of opposition, the councilman would also like to reaffirm her opposition of this various requests.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else who would like to testify, please raise your hand.

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That's all, Chair.

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Thank you.

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Planning Commission?

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This property is indicated for neighborhood commercial mixed use on the city plan.

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The applicant has not demonstrated necessary hardship regarding requirements of the code.

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Application represents an incompatible, non-conforming use, not consistent with our adopted district

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plan.

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Recommend request for variance not be granted.

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I'm sorry.

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If I could just interject a thought, Mr. Bettner, could you always announce your name and your

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department please?

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Got it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The plan, I just want to be clear. Is the Planning Commission suggesting that the first

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floor be used as a commercial, for commercial use?

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We are indicating that that commercial use be retained, as it is, and that the zoning

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not be changed. There's no there's been no proposed remapping for this as of yet so that's

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our position. Yeah I appreciate I'm not being argument I'm just curious because it's like in

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the middle almost in the middle of a block and surrounded by residential I don't know how

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commercial is going to work out there. That's just my opinion obviously. Anyone else? Mr. Chairman?

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Mr. Chairman? Yes, sir. Yes. Is there other commercial spaces on the block?

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So there's a lot of empty lots is what I can see. I'm just

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And then these two existing structures are residential in nature. There is maybe on the

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very end of the block, I think there's a daycare on the corner property, which actually does not

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face Burke Street, it faces one of the intersecting streets. And that's towards the lower end

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of the block. There's actually a longer lot towards this end that does have a daycare

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on the bottom.

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You mentioned that there's a grocery store a block away. I don't know. The grocery store

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is actually, so this is our side of the block, as you can see from this photograph. I'm sorry,

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it's a little blurry. But if you look across the street, this is a residential, but this

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down there in that part this is straight across the block from my client's property that's the

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grocery store and their parking lot so the grocery store is about a block away yes thank you across

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perk street and then another uh distance away yes one other question 520 and 526 they're

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residential correct yes they're fully residential are they multi-family or single they're multi-family

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You can see the meters on this one.

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I did look at a record of 526 in the city records.

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I can try to pull that up now if the board would like.

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That's okay.

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I just wanted to make sure that what I saw earlier was correct.

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It's multifamily.

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That's correct.

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Yes.

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Yeah, I just don't see how commercials are going to work in the middle of that block,

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but that's just my opinion.

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All right.

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Any other questions?

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Anybody else have anything off?

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Seeing none, calendar number MI2020-001099, 522 West Berks Street.

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My vote is yes.

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My vote is yes.

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My vote is yes.

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My vote is yes.

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Next one up, it's MI2020-001077, 3818 Aspen Street.

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I have promoted attorney.

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I have promoted attorney Mulvihill oh here we go and I can't wait to see what he looks

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like Mr. Chairman drum roll please say the same thing I used to play the drums too when

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I was a kid oh there he goes well now I'm taking guesses Mr. Mulvihill has an RCO meeting

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after this hearing i'm wondering if he will be wearing the same hey it depends on what neighborhood

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yes sir okay mr mobile hill i think you were on earlier today yes and you're already still

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under oath so uh mr plaza you agree to wait to read in of its refusal and stipulate to its

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accuracy i do also have you emailed an exhibit packet with the required documents proof of

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ownership proof of tax compliance copy of the refusal or referral photos and plans five days

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prior to this hearing I have although this morning I sent to Ms. Zuleta a revised sheet with a

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proviso sheet as well indicating the location of rear access center for the revised plan

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okay have you met with the RCO and have a letter we had a meeting last night at 5 p.m. I do not

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have a letter from the RCO yet thank you please proceed yes good evening chairman members of the

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board it is I Skeletor from Eternia here to present the proposal for 3818 Aspen Street

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what we're proposing today members of the board is relatively straightforward as I share my screen

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we now have showing on the screen the zoning packet today the refusal appeal of project

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information form are at page one area zoning maps at page seven the deed for the property at eight

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my client's tax clearance is at 15 zoning notification that are at 16. we have no rco

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letter yet but i can report back on the meeting we held last night voters the property are at 19 and

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plans are at 29. so members of the board what we have done in this instance is propose a new two

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family dwelling or an existing single family lot the lot itself is currently vacant located in the

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mantua area i'm showing now page 7 of 30 of my packet to the top you can see the site picked

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out in blue from the zoning map from the city and below you see the aerial map from the atlas website

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as well indicating that we are building next to proposing to build next to one vacant lot

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which is off to the west, pardon me, off to the east, and then an existing structure to the west.

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I'm going to proceed now, members of the board, to the photographs.

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So I'm showing now, for the purposes of the record, members of the board, page 19 of my package,

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showing the zoning signs that were posted on the property.

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Going to page 20, we now see the adjacent structures that are existing.

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Although it appears to be one large vacant lot in this photograph, this is actually two

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separate lots, and our lot is to the right of this photograph, next to this two-story

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home that I'm indicating.

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I'm just going to show sort of a panoramic shot of photos of the surrounding block.

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scrolling out at 27 page 28. Zooming out now what I'm showing is the original site plan

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and the reason I'm going to this is because it shows our proposed structure looking to

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the upper left hand side our proposed structure next to the existing home my architect Michelle

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is on the line today. I'll have her raise her hand in a minute. But you can see that

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although we are building three stories tall for which we did not receive a refusal, we're

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doing our best to match both the porch line of the existing homes because these homes

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are set back with small front yards and small porches. We include that in this proposal.

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We try to keep the facade the same. We're using red brick. And we try to keep the second

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story windows the same as well within an inch or two. The height of the property as proposed

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is 36 feet tall so we're not even going to the full 38 as required by code

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just moving to the next page members of the board i'm showing now the entire site plan here

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you can see to the front there's a small front yard about 14 of the lot with an uncovered porch

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that is matching the adjacent setbacks and adjacent porches of the existing home

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home to the right of the property. To the left, as I said before, it's a vacant lot. I'm assuming

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somebody will wish to build there in the future. Pilot House is set back from the front towards

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pilot house is set back from the front towards the middle of the structure so it won't be visible

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the middle of the structure so it won't be visible from the street.

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from the street and then we have rear exit basement stairs in the rear yard the rear yard

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itself is slightly smaller than what's allowed by code so we did receive a refusal for that although

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we have all the required open area as required by code between the front and rear yard what i'm

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showing now members of the board it was the bottom left hand side of this sheet which is just a side

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view showing the front yard, steps, porch, three stories up. The five-foot setback is

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required by code for the roof deck. A pilot house for access to the roof deck and the rear yard.

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Moving on to the next page, members of the board, which is the final page of our presentation.

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These are the floor plans. I'm going to start from the left, which is the basement. So we do

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have bedrooms in the basement, members of the board, which is why we have egress stairs coming

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out to the rear, leading to the rear common fire alley.

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Bedroom 1 is to the front, closet space in the middle, along with the bathroom.

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Bedroom 2 is to the rear, could also be used as an office, rec room, anything along those

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lines.

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But for the purpose of these plans, we are showing those bedrooms, again, including the

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stairs in the back.

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This is to the right of that on the first story, members of the board.

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the second part of unit number one which is three beds three baths about 1500 square feet

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give or take as you proceed up the front steps on the porch you go into a front door and hang

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a right down that common hallway kitchen to the front dining to the middle living room behind that

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bath and then a bedroom to the rear which again could be a den office anything along those lines

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that has access to the rear yard for trash storage.

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Proceeding up the common stairs, you'll get to unit number two.

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Again, three bed, three bath.

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It's slightly larger than the other unit

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because we don't have to worry about the basement walls.

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And the floor plan is basically the same.

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Living and dining to the front, kitchen in the middle, bedroom to the rear.

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Proceeding up the stairs then to the third floor of the structure,

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bedroom to the front, bedding to the rear,

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restrooms and closets in the interior.

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to the staircase leading up to the pilot house roof deck for access to the exterior space for

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that second-story unit. As stated before, the roof deck is set back from the front as required by code.

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Trash will be stored in the kitchen and in the trash storage closet. Feedback from the community

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meeting members of the board, and I had my notes in front of me from that, after this presentation

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of this very same packet, there were nine, pardon me, ten people altogether in attendance, including

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myself my architect and the representative from the council's office there was a total of six

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votes three yes three no uh the questions asked had to do with whether we had spoken to the

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immediately next door neighbor and at this point we hadn't yet but we intend to do so before

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continuing construction um that's really all the questions that we had other than general questions

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The plan is to rent out each of these units at around $1,300 per unit.

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We did receive a copy of a letter from a council person's office indicating that they don't object to the multifamily, but they object to the height.

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Members of the board, I understand that where you build a three-story home next to a two-story home, sometimes there are objections about that.

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But in this instance, we did not receive a refusal for the height or for having a third story.

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That would be permitted by right no matter what.

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So I'd ask that if that is the only community concern

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as expressed in that letter that we received,

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that you take that into consideration

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as not being an issue at zoning for this particular case.

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As if we were-

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Excuse me, this is Sharon Stiletto.

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We did receive an email from Andrew Goodman

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of the councilwoman's office this afternoon.

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I don't know whether you were copied on that.

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I did send it just now to the board members

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if you're able to view it in your text messages.

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Yes, that's the letter to which I was referring.

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