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Minutes

Stated Meeting, June 21, 2004

Philadelphia City CouncilJun 21, 2004

People mentioned

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Organizations mentioned

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. the ayes are 16. The nays are zero. A majority of all members having voted in the affirmative, this bill passes. Bill Number 040500 is to be called next.

Ms. Rafferty

An ordinance approving the 15th amendment of the redevelopment proposal for the South Central Urban Renewal Area.

Council President Verna

This bill having been read on two different days, the question now is, shall the bill pass finally. The Clerk will please call the roll. stated - 6/21/04

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Nutter voting aye. stated - 6/21/04 Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. The ayes are 16. The nays are zero. A majority of all members having voted in the affirmative, this bill passes. I would ask the Clerk to please read the title of Bill Number 040506.

Ms. Rafferty

An ordinance to amend the Philadelphia zoning maps by changing the zoning designations of certain areas of land.

Council President Verna

This bill stated - 6/21/04 having been read on two different days, the question now is, shall the bill pass finally. The Clerk will please call the roll.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

(No response.)

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye. stated - 6/21/04

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Nutter voting aye. Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. The ayes are 16. The nays are zero. A majority of all members having voted in the affirmative, the bill passes. The next bill to be called for consideration is Bill Number 040520.

Ms. Rafferty

An ordinance stated - 6/21/04 approving the second amendment of the redevelopment proposal for the Brewerytown Urban Renewal Area.

Council President Verna

This bill having been read on two different days, the question now is, shall the bill pass finally. The Clerk will please call the roll.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

(No response.)

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman stated - 6/21/04 Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Nutter voting aye. Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. The ayes are 16. The nays are zero. A majority of all members having stated - 6/21/04 voted in the affirmative, this bill passes. The next bill to be called for consideration is Bill Number 040521.

Ms. Rafferty

An ordinance amending section 14201 of The philadelphia Code relating to R-1A residential district by changing the width of side yards.

Council President Verna

This Bill having been read on two different days, the question now is, shall the bill pass finally. The Clerk will please call the roll.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kelly. stated - 6/21/04

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

(No response.)

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Nutter voting aye. Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Council President stated - 6/21/04 Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye. The ayes are 16. The nays are zero. A majority of all members having voted in the affirmative, the bill passes. The next bill to be called for consideration is Bill Number 040566.

Ms. Rafferty

An ordinance amending Title 10 of The Philadelphia Code by generally prohibiting the keeping of certain farm animals, including certain poultry and livestock, under certain terms and conditions.

Council President Verna

This bill having been read on two different days, the question now is, shall the bill pass finally. The Clerk will please call the roll.

Councilman Ramos

Madam President, point of order.

Council President Verna

Yes.

Councilman Ramos

Can I ask my friend and colleague, Councilman O'Neill, to... He and I started a conversation stated - 6/21/04 before we entered chambers. And I was wondering if he can hold the bill, and maybe we can talk this up a little bit more, and talk with the Health Department and see if we can come up to some agreements on this bill.

Councilman O'Neill

Madam President, I thought I had mentioned to you this morning -- but if I didn't make it clear I'd like to now -- I think the Health Commissioner and Health Department are receptive to amendments, particularly those that would geographically help areas that have historically had farm animals, particularly chickens, geese, and ducks, from a culturally historical background. But the Commissioner had said, if contacted by Council members about any geographical amendment, understanding it is our last session, none of this could take effect until September.

Councilman Ramos

And that's what I'm asking, if you can hold it off. Maybe we can work out those details. I'm'a get stated - 6/21/04 you a rooster.

Councilman O'Neill

If I can finish. He is... I would ask that -- He is not going to enforce this bill in any area where there's an amendment coming forth over the summer to be introduced in the fall. But there are areas where people, particularly in the Bustleton section -And that's what generated this bill and this legislation, where people can't open their windows and their doors to their house because of the offensive odors. And it was that the Health Department asked me to make the bill broader. But at the same time, they recognize there may be some narrowing, particularly in some areas. And they're not out to over enforce the bill, if there's amendments intended on it. So I would ask, if it doesn't pass today, people will be spending another summer with odors that are just intolerable. And you wouldn't want and I stated - 6/21/04 wouldn't want them to have to do that. But at the same time, this isn't a Health Department that wants to run roughshod over people with a history of using these animals properly. And I think over the summer we can work out amendments. But I would ask you to support the bill in its present form so that people don't have to wait three months to get the kind of relief they need. There's no intention to -

Councilman Ramos

I understand. That I can't do for you because on the other side of this argument is that there are people in different parts of the City that actually take very good care of animals, such as chickens and ducks. And I know of a lady -- a group of people that have this nice little place where they have air conditioning. While they don't have air conditioning inside their home, they had air conditioning out there. And the treatment of their -- of these animals are like pets to them. stated - 6/21/04 And I think that there's, more importantly, there's health concerns and we have to address the health concerns. So, again, I humbly submit that you be able to hold up on that bill that we can tell the Health Department anyone who's stinking up a neighborhood should be reported anyway. So, you can always -- we can always report areas where people are presenting health hazards, and report them anyway, instead of making it law.

Councilman O'Neill

Councilman, I can only tell you it was the Health Commissioner in the Health Department that told me in order to effectively enforce the situation in Bustleton, which is your area as well, that they needed this bill. But they are very aware of the kind of situations you're talking about. I had not heard about the air conditioning, but certainly had heard some really good stories about people that are good neighbors with their farm animals. And stated - 6/21/04 there's no intention here to affect that.

Councilman Ramos

My wife won't let me bring a rooster home to raise, but I'll be glad to give you one if you want to raise one.

Councilman O'Neill

Thank you. Sorry I can't help you because of the last session.

Councilman Ramos

Sorry I can't help you either on this one.

Councilman O'Neill

I understand.

Council President Verna

The Clerk will please call the roll.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

No.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Clarke.

Councilman Clarke

No.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Cohen.

Councilman Cohen

No.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman DiCicco. COUNCILMAN DiCICCO: Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Goode.

Councilman Goode

Aye. stated - 6/21/04

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kelly.

Councilman Kelly

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Krajewski.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

Can you come back to me on this? (Laughter.)

Council President Verna

How about half a vote? (Laughter.)

Councilman Mariano

No.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Miller.

Councilwoman Miller

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Nutter voting aye. Councilman O'Neill.

Councilman O'Neill

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Ramos.

Councilman Ramos

No.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman stated - 6/21/04 Reynolds-Brown.

Councilwoman Reynolds-Brown

No.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilman Rizzo.

Councilman Rizzo

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman Tasco.

Councilwoman Tasco

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

Council President Verna.

Council President Verna

Aye.

Ms. Rafferty

The nays are 6. The ayes are 11. The bill passes.

Council President Verna

Thank you. The Chair recognizes Councilman Kenney.

Councilman Kenney

For what?

Council President Verna

Your light is on. (Laughter.)

Councilman Kenney

Whoops.

Council President Verna

You didn't think I recognized you there, huh? I think you wanted to cast a vote for bills that you were not present.

Councilman Kenney

Thank you, Madam stated - 6/21/04 President. I would like to be voting aye on all bills that I missed while out of the chamber.

Council President Verna

The record will so reflect that. And The Chair recognizes Councilman Mariano.

Councilman Mariano

It was just on by mistake. I'm sorry.

Council President Verna

Okay. Thank you. The next bill to be considered is Bill Number 040616.

Ms. Rafferty

An ordinance declaring it is desirable for the health, safety and welfare of the people of the area served by Temple University Hospital.

Council President Verna

This bill having been read on two different days, the question now is, shall the bill pass finally. The Clerk will please call the roll.

Ms. Rafferty

Councilwoman stated - 6/21/04 Blackwell.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Aye.