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ZBA Hearing - June 9, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jun 9, 20216h 56m

will be able to shed some more light on that. This is the project site here. It's across

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from the Cruz playground. And it, as I said, is the site of an existing affordable housing

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project for ASEE. This was actually their first low-income housing tax credit site. And so there

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are affordable units that already exist at this location. And this proposal is seeking to

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replace those with a newer and upgraded product. These are the photos of posting so the board can

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see what's there now. This isn't really relevant to what we're doing as these structures are going

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be coming down but this is the existing site for context. What the proposal is is in two phases

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and it's most easily shown with this site plan and phase one will be demoing this front building

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and all the residents that are located there now will be put into other housing units that are

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owned by ASEE so no one's going to be displaced from their housing as part of this. That's why

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we're doing it in phases so that we can relocate those who need to be while the phase one construction

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is done. And then in phase two, the residents for phase one, we move back into the then

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completed first portion of the project. We're proposing this to be in two connected structures.

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The reason for the variance about the front setback, you can see right here,

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What we tried to do was angle the building to create a little open space off of the street frontage here to allow for some outdoor space.

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What we tried to do was angle the building to create a little open space off of the street frontage.

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There's going to be a community area or a sort of general purpose room here.

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And so that's going to flow nicely into this open space.

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And there's also going to be a tot lot for the senior housing.

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It's going to be located back there so that if those families have grandparents or relatives visiting, there will be a place to accommodate kids as well.

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This is just to give you a sense of the phasing. As I said, this is the phase one structure,

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phase one and a half, and then phase two will be the rear senior building there.

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General overview of our site plan. As I mentioned, there's a community room with kitchen here,

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this outdoor plaza, offices, maintenance, storage, and mechanicals. And then we have

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15 parking spaces that are going to be accessed off of Marshall Street here.

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section drawings just to give the board a sense of the scale of the project once

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it's completed we are asking for a height variance as we need the additional elevation to be able to

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make these nice size units the 24 regular residential multi-family units are a mix of

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one two and three bedrooms and the senior housing is all one bedroom so we needed the additional

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height beyond what was there now to accommodate that mix of housing styles

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these are general floor plans to give you a sense of how the stacking of the building

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will look an elevation to show the context of the various phases

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and we have a rendering of what the outside will look like we really felt that the neighborhood

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would appreciate a little pop of color with the design and that was appreciated at the RCO level

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and at CBR as well. We tried to develop something that would stand out a little bit as a unique

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addition to the neighborhood rather than just your standard gray box. The remainder of the

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materials that I submitted to the board include the tax clearance and the notifications sent to

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neighbors with a certificate of mailing. And at this point, we do have the architect, Darren

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Edwards, on the line if the board has any questions. But I will stop there and ask Maria

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Gonzalez to virtually raise her hand so she can adopt my testimony.

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Good morning, Ms. Gonzalez. Please identify yourself with a record, spell your full name,

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and I'll swear you in.

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Ms. Gonzalez, you've been unmuted. You can speak now.

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Okay, thank you. Maria Gonzalez, M-A-R-I-A-G-O-N-Z-A-L-E-Z. Good morning.

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You swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you. Maria, did you have a chance to listen to my presentation this morning?

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Yes, I did.

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Was there anything that I said that you would like to correct?

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No, you weren't.

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Okay, then it's fair to say you adopt my statements as true in your own testimony.

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Correct, I do.

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Okay, thank you.

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Mr. Chair, I don't have anything for it.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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I have two questions.

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What's the trash plan?

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And are there any units below grade?

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so the number one the trash plan is um we're going to design trash chutes like we do in our

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other developments so we're going to handle the trash that comes from every floor there will be

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a trash room at every level and then there will be a trash compactor at the at the bottom that's

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going to capture all the trash and we will have private hauling that will take the trash um and

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we'll have pick up either once or twice a week depending on the amount of trash that the residents

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generate. Right now, we have private hauling there as well. So it's something that we institute in

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all our properties. And to answer your second question, Mr. Holloman, no, there will not be

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any units below grade. That is good. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Any other questions

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from the board? No. No. Anyone else like to testify in this case, please raise your hand.

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Only those who would like to testify in this case, raise your hand at this time.

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Chair, we have a Bart Levy.

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Mr. Levy, you can unmute yourself and speak now.

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Good morning, Mr. Levy.

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Please identify yourself with a record.

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Spell your first and last name, and I'll swear you in.

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I'm Bart Levy for 5301 Euclid Street.

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Your last name is spelled L-E-V-Y.

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B-A-R-T-L-E-V-Y.

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Pennsylvania ID number 204800.

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This is Sharon. That is number 11 on your list. Euclid Street. It's not this case.

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Euclid Street. It's not this case. All right, sir, we'll be back to you. Anyone would like to

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testify in this case, 1426-44 North 6th Street. Raise your hand. All others, please keep your

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hand down until we acknowledge you. I see no hands at this time, Chair. Thank you. Planning

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Commission. Good morning Mr. Chairman Ian Hegarty for the Philadelphia City Planning Commission.

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The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing residential multi-family

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zoning at this location. The proposed redevelopment is supported by the affordable housing

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goals of the comprehensive plan. This case was heard by the Civic Design Review Committee but

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the committee did not identify any design issues with the variance refusals and so the City Planning

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Commission recommends that the board grant the variance. Thank you. Mr. Kleiner, two revised

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pages? One. Okay, thank you. MI 2021-000667, 1426-44 North 6th Street. My vote is yes with the

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proviso. Revised plan one page approved today. My vote is yes with proviso. Yes with proviso.

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yes with proviso yes with proviso thank you all very much enjoy the rest of your day

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you too calendar number mi 2021 000717 2135-37 south 17th street the attorney is jack verman

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I see no hands at this time, Madam Vice Chair.

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Mr. Furman, is there anyone here for 2135-37 South 17th Street?

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Chair, I have someone by the name of Shakira Barrett with her hand up.

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Thank you.

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Ms. Barrett, please identify yourself, spell your first and last name, and I'll swear you in.

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My name is Shakira Barrett, S-H-A-K-E-E-R-A-H, Barrett, B-A-R-R-E-T-T.

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You swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes.

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Please proceed. You're here on this case, 17th Street?

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Yes.

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i'm the tenant here and i was proposing for it to be a daycare center um no more than 24 hours

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consecutive hours um with serving of food um for the building excuse the interruption but who is

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mr jack verman that's probably someone from the owner that's probably like his lawyer but

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today the purpose of me coming because this is my um zoning is for the daycare usage

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I don't know if he got the same date

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because I'm the tenant in the building right now.

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Ma'am, are you operating a business LLC?

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Yes.

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You need an attorney.

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You're a nonprofit or an LLC.

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You're required to have an attorney.

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So we're going to need to continue your case, ma'am.

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I have to have an attorney?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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MI 2021-000717, 2135-37 South 17th Street is continued.

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Calendar number MI 2021-000727, 2212 North 58th Street.

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Lamont Rogers is listed as the person of interest.

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that doesn't sound right

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rogers

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mr chair there are also no exhibits and it's the first listing

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all right mi 2021-000727

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2212 north 58th street is continued

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seven and eight go together carol thank you calendar number

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MI-2021-001284, 2815 Graysbury Avenue, and calendar number MI-2021-001239, 2815 Graysbury Avenue.

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The attorney is Brett Feldman for both of these cases.

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Mr. Feldman's coming back in as a panelist.

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Still on the roof.

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Thank you, Mr. Feldman.

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Name and address, please, and spell your last name.

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Yes, good morning.

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I'm Brett Feldman, 1835 Market Street, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 19103.

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I represent the applicant McDonald's in these two related cases,

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is 2815 Grace Ferry Avenue at the Grace Ferry Shopping Center.

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I misspoke. He has to be sworn in. I didn't swear him in, really. I'm sorry.

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Okay. Do you swear or affirm to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership, tax compliance, refusal, or referral,

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photos and or plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing and have you met with the

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RCO and do you have a letter? Yes to all. Okay. Thank you. We may proceed. Okay. Again, good

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morning. Brad Feldman. I represent McDonald's. With me today, we have two witnesses, Jonathan

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Basque, who is the McDonald's area construction manager, and Mary Bockert, who is our project

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engineer from Boulder Engineering. We passed up exhibits one through 11, which I believe you see

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on your screen. Those were our exhibits. And just to orient the board, there's two cases here.

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This is for an existing McDonald's in the shopping center that we're looking tired and in need of

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renovation. We are demolishing the restaurant and we're rebuilding another restaurant at the

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exact location. LNI now needs you to file applications for the building and the site

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improvements on one application and signs on another application. So that's why there's two

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cases here that you'll see in front of you, but we've consolidated the exhibits so that it's all

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as one. So I'd ask Exhibits 1 through 11 to be incorporated into the record. You'll see at

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Exhibit Tab 9 is our letter of support from the Tasker Morris Neighborhood Association. So let me

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just go through these pretty quickly those are the exhibits list of witnesses

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interestingly the the main refusal here is that here here's the building

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this shopping center is still zoned industrial so here here's the greatest very shopping center

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there's a fresh grocer over here a number of other tenants in this large shopping center

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The McDonald's is on a pad site to the right.

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The property is still an industrial, even though it's a shopping center.

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So once we demolish the existing restaurant, we have to get a variance to rebuild a new

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restaurant at the same location.

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That is the main refusal.

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There's also a refusal for signs.

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You can only have two menu boards.

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We are one of the main features of this application is we're creating a side-by-side tandem drive-through

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option to make it to make this mcdonald's operate better but each each drive-through needs to have

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two menu boards on itself so that's the location this is the mcdonald's if you've driven past uh

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it used to be a roy rogers um it's really antiquated um mcdonald's has wanted to for a

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number of years of rebuild the location that's what it looks like that's what it looks like

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just a bunch of pictures here take it through that here there's a posting

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and here is the layout now the proposed McDonald's

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Mary Walker do you want to just briefly just explain in one minute just the the

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the new layout of the McDonald's and how we're seeking to upgrade in all

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respects of this restaurant.

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I think it could be a very brief description.

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Absolutely. Good morning. Can you hear me?

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Yeah, please identify yourself and I'll swear you in.

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Mary Bockert, M-A-R-Y-B-A-C-H-E-R-T with Bowler Engineering.

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You swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Thank you.

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So if we take a look at the layout here that we're looking at the page, everything in gray

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is our lease area within the overall shopping center, which will be getting a new coat of

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pavement. And then we are tearing down the existing building, which is in the same layout

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as proposed. So generally the same position and configuration with respect to orientation

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towards Grace Ferry. New side-by-side drive-through. So currently there's just one stacking lane to

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new side-by-side drive-through. So currently there's just one stacking lane to one order

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point and then they merge and pick up at the building. Now we will have two stacking lanes,

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two order points, and then they will merge for pickup. This does speed up the efficiency

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of the drive-through and cuts down on stacking both internal and external to the site.

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And then a new trash enclosure demolishing the derelict one in the rear and that will

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have a matching facade as the building so really no changes to circulation uh or orientation of

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the building just a brand new building with a brand new signage package uh and nice new menu

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boards and just real quick i think this is this really brings it alive that's that's the proposed

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that's what this would look like when it's done and and and just just so the board sees

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what mcdonald's has been doing throughout the city as far as new designs this is a location

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