civus
Hearing video

ZBA Hearing - February 16, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Feb 16, 20223h 51m

streets and it's imposing transformative change the existing residents so the proposal is not

Similar wording

supportive of several things small family new families seeking permanent lives and owning homes

Similar wording

because it's entirely rentals build so you think it's not for families to build equity or raise

Similar wording

children which is what the community has been about at the same time it doesn't support any

Similar wording

low-income housing either so this is a significant turn to the vision uh of a high compact turnover

Similar wording

rental as opposed to long-term community which is currently the prevalent character of the

Similar wording

as opposed to long-term community which is currently the prevalent character of the

Similar wording

kensington neighborhood it's gardens individual homes traditional front stoops uh where people

Similar wording

sit and long times get to know old folk you know new folk and rather it pushes the opposite end of

Similar wording

livability spectrum like to have uh there's no room for street level green surface or anything

Similar wording

so put in basic terms this is a game changer it will alter the essential character of the

Similar wording

neighborhood regarding the density with this multi-family plan the way this large so this

Similar wording

project transforms also just two more points the the car and foot traffic from handling a total of

Similar wording

let's say two storefronts and one evening restaurant and all the 12 narrow blocks around

Similar wording

to double or triple that on a small on these small back streets on the third block off of

Similar wording

arterial front street we're going to have this kind of new commercial traffic so this regards

Similar wording

congestion and the already difficult parking in the surrounding streets will be degraded with this

Similar wording

high density that's proposed i know you know there's some calculations but the proposed seven

Similar wording

spots for all the commercial space is a lot less than was built on nearby gerard which has 155

Similar wording

spaces for their 50 000 square foot commercial ground floor and the proposed 41 spots for the

Similar wording

112 rental units are going to challenge the local streets in contrast with the current zoning and housing the way it stands.

Similar wording

It'll put a significant commercial and moving traffic in the area, too.

Similar wording

So that's it. I just wanted to state those points of opposition and share.

Similar wording

if you would look at um the cba map of of what is rs5 a5 and you know how it's the rest is on the

Similar wording

outside on these large streets you know um should i put that up and share that no we're fine mr we

Similar wording

had maps we were okay thank you that's all thank you mr sterman thank you for calling in we i did

Similar wording

want to say i forgot to say they were very respectful they came around they talked to people

Similar wording

these are really good guys really um well that's that's great to hear right thank you great to

Similar wording

hear thank you very much uh and i'll just say just today i mean we we i appreciate the concerns

Similar wording

that's you know when you talk about parking and traffic you know um you could do uh a lot of

Similar wording

houses here with no parking um we've chosen to add the parking and manage the traffic and i believe

Similar wording

that um you'll counsel let me let me let me see if there's anyone else in the audience is there

Similar wording

anyone in the thank you is there anybody else in the audience has a comment i miss sir i have

Similar wording

mr glenn isaac with their hand raised i would allow them to speak at this time sure right

Similar wording

yeah hi i'm uh glenn could you do me forever state your name and spell it for the court reporter

Similar wording

sure glenn isaac g-l-e-n-n last name is i-f-a-a-c right do you swear or firm to tell the truth the

Similar wording

whole truth and nothing but the truth i do proceed sir so i live at uh master street um commons and

Similar wording

you know i've been there for the last six years um you know i want to say you know when i met mark

Similar wording

and Jake you know I've been very impressed with them you know I think they've gone above and

Similar wording

beyond when it came to engaging the community taking the needs and concerns of the neighbors

Similar wording

into account kind of when it came to changing the footprint of the project you know I walk by this

Similar wording

building all the time you know I'm a block away it's always been a hope of mine that you know if

Similar wording

it was no longer being used that it would be thoughtfully redeveloped so I'd be adamantly

Similar wording

opposed to, you know, seeing this become like a last mile of distribution facility or, you know,

Similar wording

used in like a true industrial manner, because I just don't think it would fit in well or be a good

Similar wording

use for the community. You know, I think what they're, you know, bringing or what they would

Similar wording

potentially bring online, you know, it's something that, you know, I think people in my development

Similar wording

who I've talked to, you know, we would appreciate, you know, I don't, I don't want to see, you know,

Similar wording

big, you know, 18 wheelers going in and out of our community, you know, on a daily basis,

Similar wording

when it comes to noise, you know, potential safety. We all have young children. You know,

Similar wording

I think that this project is something, you know, that I think would fit in well. And, you know,

Similar wording

I think that, you know, we could get behind. So I just want to say, you know, I'm in strong

Similar wording

support for it. Thank you very much for calling in. Is there anyone in the virtual audience has

Similar wording

something different than what's already been said sir mr charles abdo with his hand raised

Similar wording

mr abdo could you could you sir could you state your name and spell for the court reporter

Similar wording

Mr. Abdo, if you are available, please unmute and wait to be sworn in.

Similar wording

Mr. Abdul, if you are available

Similar wording

Okay.

Similar wording

Would you state your name and spell it for the court reporter, please?

Similar wording

Yes, Charles, C-H-A-R-L-E-S, Abdo, A-B-D-O.

Similar wording

Right.

Similar wording

Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

I do.

Similar wording

Could you give us your comments, sir?

Similar wording

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. You know, my comments are somewhat similar to Mr. Sturman's, but I have them in writing, and I think I could be pretty brief. So if you'll allow me to do that, I'd appreciate it.

Similar wording

Sure.

Similar wording

Okay, so I'm actually-

Similar wording

Can you please address the record of where he lives, just for the record?

Similar wording

Excuse me?

Similar wording

I live at 820 North 23rd Street, but I am probably the longest property owner of the 1300 block of

Similar wording

Masher Street. So I have a shop and business there and I have other properties that I rent out.

Similar wording

I am also on South Kensington zoning committee, but I am here today as a protestant,

Similar wording

as a near neighbor. I am 120 feet away at 1343 Master Street. So South Kensington has seen more

Similar wording

than its share of tall and dense mixed-use buildings. Most of these buildings have had

Similar wording

community support, and most of these buildings have been on the principal corridors of the

Similar wording

neighborhood and have ICMX zoning. Thompson, Howard, and Masher, the streets surrounding this

Similar wording

proposal are a completely different scale than those principal corridors. This site was remapped

Similar wording

as RSA 5 in 2017 for a good reason. Single-family homes would provide the right amount of density

Similar wording

and parking and traffic for this site. This proposal, which is 111,000 square feet of gross

Similar wording

floor area, 112 rental units, 126 bedrooms, 7,300 feet of commercial space, which will most likely

Similar wording

be rented as a restaurant, is not appropriate use for this site. Keep in mind, because this is a

Similar wording

large proposal. The voting radius for this project was within half a mile. So if you live half a

Similar wording

mile or two blocks away, the effect of this project, minor quality of life is fairly minor

Similar wording

compared to those of us who live a block away. Lastly, the 50 foot compromise in height that

Similar wording

was is too little and arrived way too late for any meaningful discussion with the community.

Similar wording

so I ask the board that they do not support the project and that this site remains as it is or

Similar wording

is developed as a single-family homes. Mr. Abdo, thank you for calling in. Thank you. I just want

Similar wording

to say I have great respect for Charlie. He's a friend. I've known him a long time, but I object

Similar wording

to his testimony. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. Anyone else in the virtual audience

Similar wording

have something different. We have pros and cons, and we want to move on.

Similar wording

I have a Marco Guarini with a hand raised, sir. Yes, sir. Go ahead.

Similar wording

Please state your name. Please state your name. It's spelled for the court reporter.

Similar wording

Marco Guarini, M-A-R-C-O-G-O-R-I-N-I. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

Similar wording

the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I do. Proceed, sir. Thank you, Chairman. I'm here

Similar wording

on behalf of the south kensington community partners uh planning and zoning committee um

Similar wording

i just want to actually ask um uh mr grigos if you could just list out what the exact

Similar wording

community benefits associated with this project would be as of today um sure um

Similar wording

i think we have committed to 10 of the units at 80 ami um i think uh

Similar wording

maybe jake can can can go in and just give the details but we have um uh we're working

Similar wording

with west draw progress on to make sure that we have uh inclusion in the construction a training

Similar wording

program um we're also going to work with um people in the neighborhood to um uh train developers and

Similar wording

how to uh help them underwrite projects as developers not just on the construction side

Similar wording

um and we have been open to having a discussion about off-site green space and making a

Similar wording

contribution to that but we have not finalized that discussion but we're still willing to have

Similar wording

that conversation um and uh thank you sir that's that's that's the general high points i don't

Similar wording

think i've included everything but that's the high points okay um yeah i just wanted to make

Similar wording

uh sure that was clear and on the record and you know i think um south kansas community partners

Similar wording

as Herc already kind of covered the scope of our discussion.

Similar wording

I think Mr. Sturman and Mr. Apto have covered a lot of our concerns.

Similar wording

A lot of our concerns, you know, I think the 50 foot height is definitely a step in the right direction.

Similar wording

You know, I think the 50-foot...

Similar wording

And we appreciate that. Unfortunately, it's just come too late in the process for us to change it or really to evaluate whether we can change that position.

Similar wording

That would be part of the community conversation that we had on January 10th.

Similar wording

We had been asking for that height reduction, as Herc said, for quite a long time.

Similar wording

So as of today, the RCO position reflects the neighborhood vote that we had on January 10th, which is, you know, one that's opposed to granting the variance.

Similar wording

And I guess I'll leave it at that. Thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you. Thank you for calling in.

Similar wording

Planning Commission.

Similar wording

Thank you, Chair Bergman.

Similar wording

Ian Hegarty for the Philadelphia City Planning Commission.

Similar wording

members of the board in 2017 the zoning map was amended here and this was done in accord

Similar wording

with recommendations from the comprehensive plan some pretty significant community outreach and

Similar wording

the support of city council i just want to affirm the earlier testimony you heard that the intent of

Similar wording

the neighborhood remapping was to promote mixed use and multi-family development on front street

Similar wording

and Girard Avenue, while maintaining the row house zoning on redevelopment of some of the

Similar wording

industrial parcels on the interior streets. So the RSA-5 designation on this property

Similar wording

is recent and intentional. The proposed use is therefore contrary to an adopted plan.

Similar wording

While the reuse of the existing structure does place some constraints on development,

Similar wording

we recognize that. We think that the proposal is far away from the minimum variance necessary

Similar wording

to make use of the existing building if that's the choice of the developer and then finally we

Similar wording

would just note for the board's consideration that the affordable dwelling units contained

Similar wording

in the benefit agreement are not enforceable by the city pursuant to a deed restriction and

Similar wording

affordability agreement and their actual value as community benefits should be discounted

Similar wording

accordingly city planning commission recommends that the board deny these variances thank you

Similar wording

Mr. Hagedy. MI 2021-003-290-1300 North Howard Street. I vote yes with revised plan, two pages,

Similar wording

maximum of 112 units. Carol Tenere, my vote is yes with proviso. Thomas Holliman, my vote is no.

Similar wording

James Snell, my vote is yes with Proviso.

Similar wording

Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes with Proviso.

Similar wording

Thank you very much.

Similar wording

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. It was a pleasure to be in front of you. Thanks so much.

Similar wording

Good luck.

Similar wording

Here it is.

Similar wording

MI 2021 003845 1501 South 50th Street.

Similar wording

RCO letter in support from the Southwest Philadelphia District Services.

Similar wording

RCO letter in opposition from King Cesson Area Civic Association.

Similar wording

Kelly Lewis, proprietor and owner.

Similar wording

Ms. Kelly Lewis, if you're in the virtual audience, please raise your hand.

Similar wording

Ms. Lewis?

Similar wording

No hands.

Similar wording

Wait, I got a hand to Leslie Caldwell.

Similar wording

Do I allow them to speak?

Similar wording

Yes.

Similar wording

Sir, madam, please unmute yourself.

Similar wording

wait to be sworn in. I said that's my sister. She's on here. She probably don't know how to

Similar wording

raise her hand. Let me see. You raised it? Okay. No. Can y'all hear her? She said she raised her

Similar wording

hand? No. They don't see it. He has to unmute. Wait, I have to promote her to panelists. She's

Similar wording

using an older version of a... Okay, thank you. I'm raising my hand, Kelly Lewis. Yes. Hi. Miss

Similar wording

Lewis, state your name and spell for the court reporter, please. Kelly Lewis, K-E-L-L-I-L-E-W-I-S.

Similar wording

right do you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

Similar wording

i do our vice chair has a few questions for you

Similar wording

I do. Our vice chair has a few questions for you.

Similar wording

Hi, do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

Similar wording

Yes. And it appears that you've submitted the required documents.

Similar wording

Is that correct? Yes. You may proceed. Thank you.

Similar wording

Ms. Lewis, can you share your screen with us?

Similar wording

Um, let me see. I thought I was sharing it.

Similar wording

Is it larger?

Similar wording

No, we need your forms and everything else that you have. You have them on your computer to share?

Similar wording

I have them by hand. I would have to show them. I don't have them. All my information, my plans and everything.

Similar wording

Tanya?

Similar wording

um so we would really need for them to be displayed on the share screen on zoom

Similar wording

oh i'm sorry and are you not capable of doing that at this time i'm not i had to come to my

Similar wording

daughter's house to use her computer my computer was acting up i'm so sorry so what tanya we could

Similar wording

do a short continuance for this so that you can be prepared at the next hearing to actually

Similar wording

display your information on the screen because we have a whole audience of people

Similar wording

reviewing this session and it should be visible to all. I'm sorry. Okay. Can you give me a second?

Similar wording

Let me see if I can have that happen. If not, I'll be right back and have to do a continuance.

Similar wording

okay so we're going to move forward um you could just turn your camera and your audio off

Similar wording

we'll move forward with cases and then we'll come back to you okay okay thank you you can

Similar wording

continue chair thank you mi 2021 003850 2163 north 15th street

Similar wording

no rco letter but council president's office confirms that there was a meeting

Similar wording

sabria mcgill

Similar wording

ms mcgill if you're in the audience please raise your hand

Similar wording

all right sir

Similar wording

ms mcgill has her hand raised i have allowed her to speak

Similar wording

please hello hi miss mcgill state your name and spell it for the court reporter please

Similar wording

yes sabria mcgill s-a-b-r-i-y-a m-c-g-i-l-l right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth

Similar wording

the whole truth nothing but the truth i do our vice chair has a few questions for you

Similar wording

I'm sorry, can we pause for a moment?

Similar wording

Chair, Jason, you have to promote her to a panelist.

Similar wording

She's the presenter.

Similar wording

Okay, I understood.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Mr. Chair, who am I questioning?

Similar wording

Ms. Sabrina McGill.

Similar wording

She's coming back in as a panelist, Madam Chair.

Similar wording

Okay, because I didn't see her anywhere.

Similar wording

She's on the bottom there, I see her.

Similar wording

and miss you can unmute yourself hi miss mcgill do you do you agree to wave the reading of the

Similar wording

refusal and stipulate to its accuracy yes i do all right madam vice chair she's not an attorney

Similar wording