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ZBA Hearing - July 15, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 15, 20205h 54m

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. My name is Frank DiCicco. I'm the chair of the Zoning Board

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of Adjustment. We have a quorum. I'm officially calling this session to order. In attendance is

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our vice chair, Ms. Carol Tenere, our board member, Mr. Thomas Holloman, and our board

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secretary, Confessor Plaza, along with our city solicitor, Sharon Saleta. As you're probably

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aware, today is our second day holding virtual hearings. While we may have to make adjustments

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along the way. Our plan is to call each case and basically proceed as we would have in a live

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hearing. We ask that attorneys for applicants or other interested parties identify themselves for

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the record when the case you'll be participating is called. We will then hear the applicant's

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presentation followed by any presentation by attorneys representing other parties,

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interested parties and members of the public not represented by council will

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be then be given an opportunity to testify. We will finally hear the

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recommendation of the Planning Commission. At the hearing's conclusion

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the board will either vote the matter immediately or hold it for discussion

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in executive session. Any case held for discussion will be voted on at the

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scheduled July 21st morning session. Pardon me. A couple of changes related

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to the virtual format. First, we will be administering oaths to individual

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individual participants prior to their testimony rather than to the room as a

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whole since we do not have a room. Second, for the benefit of anyone

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participating by phone, we ask that attorneys and witnesses identify

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themselves prior to speaking, and we ask that you spell your first and last name

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for the benefit of the stenographer. Third, we'd like to ask everyone that is

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in this proceeding...

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Thank you. Third, we'd like to advise everyone that this proceeding is being

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recorded and that by participating you acknowledge your agreement to be recorded so um i think we're

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let me make make sure i didn't leave anything out if anyone wishes to testify after um the the case

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has been hurt during if anyone wishes to testify you have to raise your hand and step right am i

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correct, Tondra? You're going to have to raise your hand. Yes, as soon as the case is called,

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raise your hand if you wish to testify regarding this case so we can find you and allow you to

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speak. And if I could add one more thing, as regards all that who attend the hearings via

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telephone, we do have a number that you can call in and record your appearance statement.

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The phone number for that is 267-270-5548. That number will now be populated on all posters.

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So anytime you call in through the phone, please make sure at the end of the session,

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you go to that number and record your information so we have you at with an apparent statement.

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Thank you. And can I add one more thing too? Mr. Chairman, we have to acknowledge that Tanya

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Sunkit is part of this. Okay, Tanya Sunkit is part of this. Well, no, I mean a little more

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professional. All right, I also would ask those of you who are not speaking to make sure you're on

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mute until you have to speak because sometimes we get feedback. Can I add one thing, Frank,

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please? Yes. Just that if you are an attorney and you are presenting exhibits that you would

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like to share on the screen, you will be permitted to share the screen and present them yourself

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rather than going through the host. And before we begin, there is a continuance in the morning

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list for calendar number 39643. 53 North 52nd Street will be continued. That date will be

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given out by Tanya Sunkit. The continuance date will be provided by Tanya Sunkit. Am I correct,

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tanya yes chair okay carol please call the first case

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carol can you unmute yourself please

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thank you thank you tanya calendar number 39229

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Tanya.

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Calendar number 39229, 310 Moore Street.

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The attorney is Henry Clinton.

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Morning, Mr. Clinton.

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Henry, are you there?

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there he goes

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chairman henry clinton here hey good morning henry uh do you swear and affirm to tell the

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truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth no i also agree to waive the reading

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of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy.

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Thank you.

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Please proceed.

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Mr. Clinton, do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate?

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Carol, he already said that.

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He did?

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Yes, he did.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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You can ask him if you want.

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Good.

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I would love to have that question.

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Okay.

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Do you know what?

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Just put your name and address on the record, please.

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Henry Clinton, 1313 South 33rd Street, Philadelphia PA, 19146.

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With me is my client, Ben Song, to my right, which I hope you can see on the camera.

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And he is, we're socially distancing, and he also has a mask on.

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This project concerns 310 Moore Street.

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It is currently an industrial warehouse.

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It's been there for many, many years.

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It's just west of Oriana Street, the 1800 block, which is a dead-end street.

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This is a single-story warehouse.

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It has three existing curb cuts and one large roll-top garage door.

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It's about 4,000 square feet, and the proposal is to demolish the existing garage slash warehouse

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and to build four single-family homes on the property.

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Each home will have a garage,

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and we are using two of the existing curb cuts,

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one on Moore Street and one on Oriana Street,

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and we're proposing one additional curb cut.

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So it's an existing lot.

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We're asking that it be subdivided into four,

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and then we're building four single-family homes.

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Each home will have a basement.

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The first floor will have a garage and an office.

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There will be a second, third, and fourth floor with a rooftop deck.

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There's no issue with regard to height.

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All the properties are under the 38 feet maximum height restriction.

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I have submitted my evidence binder, which includes a table of contents, which has exhibits A1 through A12.

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12. And in that packet, I don't want to go through a whole 12, but it has been previously

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submitted. And at the end, I'm going to ask it to be submitted into evidence. The houses range in

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width from 17 and a half to 19 feet, eight inches. The depths range from 30 feet to 38 feet.

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There are rear yards on every property.

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One or two are seven feet, several are nine feet, and unit four is 13 feet.

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There's three bedrooms in each property, and the square footage of each property, each single-family home, is roughly about 3,000 square feet.

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We did revise one plan, Z1, was a zoning plan to show that there is a means of egress from the rear of each of the properties.

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so they basically created an alleyway so you can get out to Oriana Street from each of the

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properties. There's an elevation attached as A10 to my packet, and you can see from the elevation

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that each property has a front-loaded garage, nice brick scape on the front, and kind of fits

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in with the neighborhood. This hearing was originally scheduled for March 18th. Prior to

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that, we had met with the community group, which is Pennsport, in early January, around January 7th

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or so. At that meeting, we presented the project, and there is a letter of support in the packet

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at A8 from Pennsport to support the project because it's really getting rid of an eyesore,

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And it is zoned, the area is zoned RSA 5. So the garage slash warehouse is in pre-existing non-conforming use. So our use will be conforming as these are all single family residences and all within the height requirement and with why.

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and all within the height requirement and and with wise we also conform. So I can go through

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the floor plans if anyone requires that. I have my client here with me I'm going to ask him

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Mr. Song have you heard my testimony? If you had the opportunity to testify would you have

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adopted as your own and as true and correct? Thank you Henry. Is there anyone else who wishes

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to testify on this matter.

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I'm delaying it a little bit because we need time

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if someone else wants to get in.

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So, all right, seeing none.

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Yes, we do have a hand up.

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Kim Ahn.

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I just have a quick question.

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Excuse me, your name again?

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My name is Kimberly Ahn.

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Kimberly, do you swear and affirm that your testimony

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will be true?

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I apologize.

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I'm rusty you swear a firm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but

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the truth yes thank you and spell your name for the stenographer please

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Kimberly k-i-m-b-e-r-l-y last name on a is an apple H is in Henry and is a Nancy

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okay please proceed I just have one question so I'm a property owner and I

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have a garage on Oriana. So I just wanted to know when you guys are, if this gets approved and

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there's construction, is the, like, are we still going to have access to our garages on Oriana?

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Yes, definitely. This is Henry Clinton speaking. I just conferred with my client and the answer is

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yes. I know that Oriana is a dead end street. I know that there's probably five or six full top

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garages there and that question was also asked at the community meeting and we

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agreed at the community meeting to provide full access because we

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understand that there are many businesses in Oriana Street so the answer

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is yes it might be helpful if your client would provide some of the

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neighbors with a contact number in case they need to block it off or any

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particular you know part of the construction period might be helpful we

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we will do that. Thank you. Questions from the board. Planning Commission.

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This property is indicated for residential use on the city plan. We have no objection.

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Thank you. Thank you, Ron. Calendar number 39229310 Moore Street. My vote is yes.

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with revised plans what i'm sorry with right was it one page yes with revised play page one

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revised plan one page my vote is yes with proviso yes with proviso yes with proviso

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Thank you. Thank you, Sharon.

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Next case is calendar number 39227, 4828 Greenway.

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Mr. Clinton, do you agree to waive and stip?

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Yes, I do.

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Name and address for the record, please.

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Henry Clinton, 1313 South 3rd Street in the Queen Memorial Building, Philadelphia PA, 19146.

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With me is my client, John Cassidy, who will testify.

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Do you want us both to be sworn in?

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Yes, please state your names for the record.

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This is Henry Slinton.

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I can't hear him.

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Could you ask him to spell it?

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It's C-A-S-S-I-D-Y, John.

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John, do you swear and affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Henry. Please proceed.

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Good morning again, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. Henry Clinton, on behalf of John

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Cassidy, this property is 4828 Greenway. I have submitted my evidence binder, which includes

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exhibits A1 through A12, which I ask to be admitted into evidence. I'm not going to go

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through and list every item that is in the table of contents because it's

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self-explanatory. By way of background, this property based on my research has

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been vacant for at least 15 years and probably longer. It is in a RSA 3

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residential zone which has prompted several refusals which I will get to. The

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property is unique in that it's 20 by 80 so it's fairly wide and fairly deep but

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in an RSA 3 zone that requires an eight-foot side yard it also requires

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that requires an eight-foot side yard. It also requires off-street parking. If we conform with

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Australia

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RSA 3, our house would only be 12 feet wide, so since the lot is 20, and the off-street parking

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would require a curb cut. I have aerial photographs attached to my exhibits, which indicate that

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in this section of Greenway Avenue, there is no off-street parking, even though that whole area

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is zoned RSA 3. So it's basically a physical impossibility to conform with RSA 3. However,

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we are conforming with RSA 5 as our proposal is a single-family two-story home and all the homes

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on that block are two-story to conform with what is on the block. It is again a single-family home

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and if you look at the elevations which are attached as A12 you can see that we tried to

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match the house next door which has a nice front porch with a little roof over the porch and then

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it's a two-story structure with windows on the first and second floor. The house basically is

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17 wide with a three-foot side yard instead of an eight-foot side yard and the depth is 49 feet

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leaving an ample rear yard and actually there's even space in the front because when you walk up

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to the home, it requires an approach of about 15 feet or so. So there's ample open space

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in the front and in the rear. We did meet with Southwest Philadelphia District Services.

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As the board may recall, this project was to be presented March 18th. The city went silent just

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about March 16th or 17th. So our hearing never took place. We had met with the community group

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in January, January 21st. At that meeting, we presented our original plan, and the community

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feedback was that they did not want a roof deck, and they did not want a pilot house.

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At that meeting, we agreed in writing to remove those two items from the plans. So the plans have

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been revised, and there's three pages, and we have removed the rooftop deck, and we have removed the

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pilot house. If you look at the elevation, you can see that it's sensitive to the

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surrounding houses and does fit in with the neighborhood. I also have, obviously,

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floor plans attached, aerial photographs attached. The aerial photographs, you

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know, indicate that it's there's trees on the property and does conform to my

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representation that it has been vacant for a minimum of 15 years. The floor plan

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is pretty straightforward. I can go through that if the board wants me to. If not, I'm going to

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ask my client if he adopts my testimony, and then I'll do a short summary. Tom, do you have any

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questions regarding the floor plan? You have to unmute. No. No. Okay. Thank you. All right,

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Mr. Henry. Mr. Cassidy, have you heard my testimony?

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Did you hear his response? He said yes, he had.

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If you had the opportunity to testify, would you adopt my testimony as your own and as true and correct?

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So just in summary, this is a unique situation in an RSA 3 zone, which requires an eight-foot side yard.

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