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ZBA Hearing - October 12, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 12, 20223h 32m

You trailed off, Ishmael.

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Oh, I'm sorry. Can you hear me?

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We can now.

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Okay, yes. Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yet.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone in the virtual audience whose case has not been called?

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I see no hands, Chair.

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Okay, so we've never had this before, so we're going to have to break until 3.30 for,

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when we have our next group. Okay. Yes. Thanks. We made history.

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You wish.

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Good afternoon. My name is Bill Bergman. I will be chairing this

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afternoon's 330 ZBA hearings. With me is Ismail Shahid, our board

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secretary.

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here mr chair thomas hollman our board member president mr chairman james snell our board

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member and i know mr snell is here so he'll be on shortly also our board attorney hillary

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emerson is here and lakisha lakisha dandy is our zba supervising

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person. Before we begin, here is our virtual format. Be advised the proceedings are being

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recorded. By participating, you acknowledge your agreement to be recorded. The video will be

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available by contacting tonyasunkett at phil.gov. For the benefit of our court stenographer,

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we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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If you're participating by phone, if you wish to testify, press star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute.

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To enter an appearance statement, call 267-270-5548.

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Leave your email and the address for the property in question.

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And lastly, the question and answer box on the screen is not for comments or testimony.

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Any comments should be directed to our Executive Director, Tanya Sumkin.

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Let's look at our continuances for this afternoon.

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Number three, MI 2022-001-395-341 North 52nd Street.

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This case is continued.

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Mark must be tried.

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Number five, MI-2022-001-391-5221 Haverford Avenue. That case is continued. And number six,

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MI-2021-003-955-407 West Cayuga Street. That case is continued. Are there any other requests

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for continuances. Chair. Yes. We have a calling user phone number ending in 3372. Okay. Please

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unmute yourself and wait for the chair. Hi. Could you state your name and spell it for the court

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and spelled for the court reporter yes yes my name is marquisa carter m-a-r-c-h-e-s-a

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Reporter.

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Yes.

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last name carter c-a-r-t-e-r right do you swear for him to tell the truth the whole truth and

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nothing but the truth yes sir okay so i noticed your case um we need your deed and an rco letter

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proof of meeting. And we don't have that yet. So let me ask you, what I want you to do is to call

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the office, call the zoning office, and they'll try to help you get everything together, okay?

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Well, you know something? I called the zoning office, and the zoning office confirmed that

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they had everything. I called Lakeisha Dandy's office 24, I think it's 2429, and they had

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everything. I sent it to all people. So listen to me. We need a deed, and we need the RCO letter,

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and there was a proof of a meeting with the RCO. That's what we need, okay? So if you call back,

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you can tell them that's what you need, and you'll make sure you can have it, and I'm going

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continue this case okay now the question is is this a business that you're you have or is it a

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private home hello okay yes this is this is a family daycare and it's a small it's not a

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it's not a corporation or anything no sir it's not okay fine so here's what i want you to do

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all right you get you make sure you have your deed have the letter from the rco what they said

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and then a proof that there was a meeting for the rco okay

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pardon me i apologize for interrupting you there was not a meeting with the rco i did contact the

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rco uh ul i believe her name is it's not her name right okay all right so what i want you to do is

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go back and set yourself up with an RCO meeting. Okay. And then we're going to, we're going to

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continue this and then we'll bring you back in. Okay. Okay. That sounds great. All right. Good.

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Thank you, ma'am. All right. And number, number four, um, MI 2020 001 710 1615 Elaine Street.

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listed owners lk lk equities group llc no exhibit second listing is there anyone here from that

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i see no handshare okay so that case is going to be continued that's mi20220017101615

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lane street that case is continued mark must be tried

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okay and and case number seven mi 2021 003 821 6811 oxford avenue it's uh james a brew

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a brew but we also have a translator so with the translator come on too please

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good morning judge hi good morning um let's get mr brew on too please yes sir well let me first

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could you spell your name please yes of course sir my name is leonel and it is spelled l as in

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lion e o n as in nancy e l and do you require my id as well no just your last name too okay

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Okay, Gillen, which is spelled G-U-I-L-L-E-N, as it ends.

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Do you swear for him to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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All right, so Mr. Abreu.

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He's unmuted, Chair, and has permission to speak.

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He just muted.

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All right, translator, could you please tell him to state his name

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and spell it for the court reporter and then we're going to swear to interrupt he's parking

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the car right now i'm sorry he's going to come in in one second jimmy abreu i'm his daughter

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okay fine he's coming in right now okay all right okay all right

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if you don't mind judge i can do a quick introduction for him so he knows who you

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you please. Yes, sir. Whenever he's ready. Okay.

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Hello, what do you want to swear him in first? Okay.

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i want to swear him in first okay please tell him we want to swear him in

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Yes, sir.

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no problem no problem okay and could you please tell him to um

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spell his name for the court reporter state his name and spell it for the court reporter

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reportero de la corte puede decir su nombre y deletrearlo por favor okay jimmy abreu j-i-m-m-i

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a-b-r-e-u

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okay do you require me to spell as well yes please yes sir name is jimmy abreu

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j-i-m-m-y-e-b as in boy r-e-u okay all right and i'm going to ask him that do you swear

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for him to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth señor y usted jura decir

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la verdad, solamente la verdad y nada más que la verdad?

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Sí, señor.

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Yes, sir.

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Okay.

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So, translator, here's our situation.

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Apparently, he's went to the RCO that approves these type of things, right?

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We have a letter of non-opposition for the council person's office, and we have a letter

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of support from the RCO.

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what we don't have is the exhibits that he needs to put forward with any application

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so what we have to do is we have to explain to him that you know we we we do have letters to

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support from him from the council person and also the rco but we need his basically his application

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package we need like a deed we need like his tax records we need all those things um and that's

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what we need could you please tell him that and then what we're going to wind up doing is we're

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going to have to continue this today because we don't have his documents but someone should explain

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him what he needs right and then once we get that then we can go on because we've already received

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something from the council person saying she agrees with no opposition and also the local

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coordinating rco could you mention that to him for me yes sir first i'll do a quick introduction

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Soginosoian. Señor, yo soy

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Lionel, yo voy a ser el intérprete.

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Todo se maneja confidencial

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y solamente para

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se le pido hablar en frases cortas

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y completas para tener una buena conversación.

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Muy bien, caballero.

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Entonces, tenemos, este es

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el caso, tenemos

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para que, usted

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fue para que lo aprobaran en el

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RCO. Tenemos

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una carta de no

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oposición y tenemos una carta de apoyo de las personas del consejo lo que no tenemos es los

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las exhibiciones y todo lo que es lo que necesito necesitamos poner su aplicación es decir necesitamos

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cualquier documento que sea sus impuestos puede ser un documento de de propietario cualquier

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documento, todos esos documentos

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porque el día de hoy no tenemos ningún

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documento, entonces todo lo que

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necesita, entonces como le digo

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no tenemos ninguna

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tenemos una carta de no oposición

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y tenemos el

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apoyo de

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el apoyo local

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ok

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como usted dice una

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carta de, una carta

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como de tase

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una carta que pruebe que soy dueño de esta propiedad

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o que?

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What do you mean?

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Like a letter that says that I am the owner of this property or things like that?

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Mr. Chair, I can briefly explain.

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So what he needs to submit for an exhibit packet is the deed to his property, photos showing what he is requesting,

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and the photos also need to show that the property had the zoning poster that was sent to him on it.

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he needs a tax clearance certificate

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or proof of zero tax balance

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and then he needs a copy of the refusal

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that was given to him

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and resulted in this zoning appeal

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and I can repeat that again if you need to

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thank you

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muy bien

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entonces lo que necesitamos

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ok

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en la exhibición de paquete

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lo que necesitamos es

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un documento de propiedad

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ok necesitamos fotos que muestren qué es lo que usted está solicitando necesitamos fotos que muestren el póster

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Necesitamos fotos que muestren el póster de zonificación en la propiedad que se le envió a usted. Necesitamos un documento de que tiene cero balance o que tiene cero deudas con los impuestos, que usted está libre, que usted está al día con los impuestos. Necesitamos una copia del rechazo que se le dio a usted por la apelación de la zonificación.

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Okay, when you're telling me to get the tax clearance certificates, can I get those documents, can I get that at the same building at the one located at 1401 JFK?

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Can someone work with Mr. Abreu to email the Zoning Board for instructions on how to do that?

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Yeah.

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So I noticed that his daughter was there.

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If his daughter were to call the office, we can help her on everything he needs.

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Muy bien.

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Noté de que su hija está ahí.

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Si su hija puede llamar a la oficina, nosotros podemos ayudarla con todo lo que necesita.

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Okay, entonces, ¿a qué número debo llamar para eso?

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Okay, what number do I need to call for that?

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Yes, I would say the staff will put the number in the chat.

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Muy bien, el staff va a poner el número en el chat.

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No entiendo.

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Make sure he knows what that is.

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It's on the computer, the screen, on the computer, on the bottom.

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Muy bien.

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El chat es donde está en la computadora.

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En este momento, en la parte de abajo, donde se escriben los mensajes.

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Ahí donde aparece como a la par de la mano, al lado izquierdo.

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Si usted le da clic ahí, va a aparecer la información.

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Dice ZBA, Contact Information.

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okay okay okay judge if you want i can dictate the number

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because he can he says he's not very he's not very good at computers he says so if if you want

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i can dictate the number to him the one that appears in the chat um hillary what do we have

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yes that that is fine that is fine thank you

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caballero le voy a dictar el número para que lo apunte en este momento

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gracias señor ok ¿listo?

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listo señor

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2 1 5

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ok 6 8 6

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ok 2 4 2 9

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ok y también está el

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2 1 5 6 8 6 2 4 3 0

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ok 2 1 5

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3 8 6 6 8 6

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6 8 6

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cuál es el otro

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2 4 2 9

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no ese fue el que usted me di ahora

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yo digo el otro que usted diga

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el otro 2 4 3 0

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2 4 3 0

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Okay.

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I have it on my phone now.

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Okay.

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