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ZBA Hearing - January 11, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jan 11, 20233h 53m

what's this hand raised before

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he's he was one of the architects and he was promoted to to panelist we're okay all right so

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uh planning commission good morning chair ian hegarty for the philadelphia city planning

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Commission. Last name spelled H-E-G-A-R-T-Y. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth? Yes, sir. Proceeding. Thank you very much. Good morning,

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board members. The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the residential single-family zoning

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at this location. The proposed dimensional variances are consistent with surrounding

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properties and related to the small size of the lot. So the City Planning Commission recommends

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that the board grant the variances.

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Thank you.

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MI 2022, 004-445-1005 Lombard Street.

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I vote yes.

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Thomas Allen, I vote yes.

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James Snell, I vote yes.

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James Snell, I vote yes.

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Ishmael Shaheed, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shaheed.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Porter, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you.

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Good luck with your project.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Number two, MI2022-004-428-2110, Titan Street, Pasquale, Calavita is the attorney.

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letter of support from Point Breeze Community Development Corporation.

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Mr. Colavita.

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We were joining as a panelist soon, sir.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Could you state your name, please, and spell it for the court reporter?

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Pasquale, Colavita, P-A-S-Q-U-A-L-E-C-O-L-A-V-I-T-A.

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Right.

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Do you swear?

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Go ahead.

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I'm sorry.

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I was just going to say my client is on.

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I didn't know if you wanted to swear both of us in at the same time.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Identify your client, please, in the relationship to the property.

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Keshav Patel, owner.

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Okay.

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Our board secretary has just a few questions for you.

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Okay.

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Good morning, counsel.

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Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to his accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed all the required documents into our offices within five days of this hearing?

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I have.

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Please proceed and share your screen.

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Okay.

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For a moment.

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Screen dot at the bottom.

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Got it.

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I'm just trying to find the actual.

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Okay, here we go.

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We're good.

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Okay, trying to.

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And all of these documents have been submitted.

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You're viewing the table of contents.

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We're going to mark and admit A through L into evidence.

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The deed's been presented, real estate tax clearance shown, architectural plans.

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And I actually have one additional set of updated photographs of the location, which gives it a much clearer view as to what this property actually looks like versus what we previously had submitted.

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This is the present property.

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Okay. So what my client is the owner of this property, but that's not the one in question.

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This is the restaurant that he owns and is seeking outdoor seating. And I can show you

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on the architectural plans that's being shared. Are you able to see these? Yes. Okay. And this is

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the uh plan of the property that is directly behind as you can see there's a three foot alleyway

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behind the actual property and his uh he also is the owner of uh the proposed space and the the

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property in question and if you look below at the renderings of what it is intended to look like

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So it's just seating and nothing more.

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There's no other use other than an accessory used to an existing building, an existing business to its west.

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So this property in question is on Titan Street, and the other is on the corner.

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um we've received we we met with a uh typically uh difficult and uh not difficult but probably

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not the proper word uh that a they look at things very closely let's put it that way as well as the

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uh uh surrounding groups it was nearly unanimous we had only one dissenter amongst

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uh the entire panel it was uh heavily uh attended uh everyone uh so we got a letter of support from

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from the uh the community group and we just asked that uh you approve this project as everyone seems

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uh you approve uh this project as everyone seems to want this in the neighborhood right

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council one one of you uh have your client come on and adopt your testimony

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sure uh mr patel you available has he been promoted yet

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patel's been allowed to speak sir hi could you state your name please and spell for the court

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reporter? Mr. Patel? Mr. Patel, if you're still available, please unmute yourself.

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Yes, I'm here. Sorry. That's fine. Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court

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reporter sure keshaw patel k-e-s-h-a-l tell p-a-t-e-l right do you swear or affirm to tell

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the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do proceed counsel mr patel did you have an

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opportunity to listen to my presentation of the project yes would you adopt my testimony as your

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own yes okay sufficient yes questions from the board um no mr chairman hi questions or comments

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from the virtual audience don't see any hands mr chair planning commission

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thank you chair bergman ian hegarty for the philadelphia city planning commission

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board members the comprehensive plan recommends no change to the existing single family residential

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zoning on this parcel. The appellant did not testify or provide evidence that there's

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no possibility that the property can be used in conformity with the zoning code and that

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variance is necessary to enable viable economic use of the property. This is a requirement for

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establishing hardship, and so we don't believe that there is a hardship in this case, and the

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City Planning Commission has to recommend that the board deny the variance.

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Counselor, you have any response?

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As far as can we build a single family property there?

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I presume yes, but based upon the present condition of being it on an alleyway and have an accessory to the restaurant,

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It seems that the cost basis of it is probably extremely high in comparison to what is presently being recommended.

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Okay. All right. Thank you. So MI2022-004-428-2110-Pyton Street, I vote yes.

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Thomas Tolloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes.

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all right counsel thank you thank you i have one other i don't know whether it's on your list next

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or uh i think you're a little bit further down i got a couple things ahead of you okay i tried

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all right you did you did very good thank you mi 2022 004 395 805 diamond street zenjin is the

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attorney. Letter of support from APM. Mr. Jinn will be rejoining as a panelist, sir.

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Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Counsel, could you state your name, please,

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and spell for the court reporter? Yes. Zen Jinn, Z-H-E-N. Last name is J-I-N. 1617 John F.

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Kennedy Boulevard, Suite 1838, Philadelphia EPA 19103, here on behalf of the applicant.

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All right. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Could you identify your client and the relationship to this property?

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The client is Glass Estates LC. They are the owner of the property and a representative for

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the company is here. Okay. Our board secretary has a few questions.

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Good morning, Counselor. Do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to his accuracy?

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I do.

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Have you emailed all the documents that were required to continue with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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I have.

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Please proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you. I'm going to share with the board the package we have previously submitted with relation to this property.

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This is 805 Diamond Street. A copy of the refusal, support letter, and related documentation were previously submitted.

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The application is based on the property being a CMX2 zoned property.

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a CMX2 zoned property. However, based on the conditions of the property surrounding this one

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However, based on the condition...

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and the viability of commercial spaces in the area, we're asking for a variance to use this

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property exclusive as a residential property. As such, the refusals are directly related to

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converting the required commercial space in the 30-foot depth into an additional residential

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unit. We met with APM and notified the neighbors and obtained a letter of support from APM.

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There were really no neighbors that made an effort to attend. APM's committee, for the most part,

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came with another, there was another RCO present as well, and there were no negative feedback from

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any neighbors or the community itself. We are proposing a three-story structure,

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a new construction at this site. Again, the site is zone CMX2. However, this is actually not a

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corner property. As you can see, this is the property that is in the middle. There's a corner

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property next to us that is still vacant, and then there are residential properties on the other side.

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Although across the street, there is what looks like a park.

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I'm going to jump to the photos here.

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There is what looks like a park across the street from the location, or I'm sorry, a

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commercial use of sort across from the location.

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Majority of the block is actually residential in nature.

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The area predominantly is REM1 zoned, and the uses surrounding the area, there are very few

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ongoing commercial activities. As you can see, almost everything in sight, including corners

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that are built, are all residential in nature. So we believe that a full residential use would

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make the most sense here until, in fact, this is, again, this street and its location really isn't

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conducive to any kind of larger commercial activity. And the lot itself is a standard

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row home width, making most commercial uses very difficult to fit into the space.

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In addition, as you can see, the look of the building, if constructed as a residential,

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would actually better fit what is already in the neighborhood. The proposal is simply a

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three-story structure with cellar to be used as three units. These two units would have been

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Otherwise, by right under CMX 2 and the first floor would have to have a commercial space.

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We're simply asking the board to permit the first floor to be used as an additional residential unit.

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So that is essentially our request before the board.

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We asked for a favorable consideration in this case due to the hardship of putting a viable commercial use at this location.

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Thank you.

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Counsel, is your client here?

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Yes, my client should be present.

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Have your testimony adopted, please.

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Yes. Thank you. Mr. Gitterman, can you raise your hand and be identified?

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Yes. Good morning, everybody.

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Hi. Could you state your name, please, and spell for the court reporter?

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My name is Joseph, J-O-S-E-P-H, and the last name is Gitterman, G-I-T-E-R-M-I-N.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Good to see you, counsel.

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Thank you. Mr. Gitterman, you have seen my presentation and heard my representation

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before the zoning board?

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Yes.

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Can you verify what I have stated is true and correct

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and adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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I'm sorry, I have Mr. Charles Dices with his hand raised.

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I will allow him to keep your time.

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Hi, could you state your name and spell for the court reporter, please?

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Charles Deitches, D-Y-C-H-E-S.

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Right.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Are you a neighbor?

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Yes, I am.

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Well, proceed, sir.

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I've been living in the community since 1974.

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Members of the community didn't know about this zoning meeting today, and nor did we know about 8 p.m. having a meeting to vote on it.

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So we would ask for you to table it and for us to have a meeting and do a vote ourselves.

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and that area is the 8th and Diamond Advisory Commission

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and that's that area, APM, is further down.

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So we will ask you to allow the citizens of this community

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to vote on this before you pass it through.

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Mr. Chairman, we did the notifications

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according to the requirements of the code.

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The APM also was the coordinating RCO.

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I don't know if Mr. Deiches represented a different organization

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that wasn't listed on my notification list,

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That wasn't listed on my notification list, but I was not aware of any neighbors, and I was not aware of the situation, in fact, until today.

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