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ZBA Hearing - May 7, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 7, 20255h 57m

So when we talked to realtors and my client did, they basically said the commercial space in the

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back, you're not going to be able to rent it. So then he decided, okay, then let me put two more

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residential units in, in the back half of the commercial and keep the front half. We'll keep

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the first floor and the basement right okay all right so that basically would

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other questions from the so so that would be 10 units plus commercial correct yes miss graham

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other questions from the board uh is there uh uh can you show the configuration of the

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bi-level units with the basement living i mean yeah yes

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So we'd come down the alley, go into the hallway, and there's unit B, and then you'd go down the alley and in the back, and there's unit A.

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And A would have, just like B, cellar and first floor.

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Any other questions?

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So when you say down the alley, that's the property line, right?

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Yes, Mr. Johns, right here.

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So you come down, okay.

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You come down here, right.

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Come down, you go up the steps, you go down the steps,

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then you go around the back and up the steps into the apartment in the back.

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Correct.

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Okay, which is bi-level with the bedrooms in the basement.

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Yes, sir.

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All right.

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Henry, do you want to bring your client on?

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Sure.

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Mr. D. Pretoro, are you still on the call?

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Tim?

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Mr. D. Pretoro has been unmuted and allowed to speak.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Thank you, board, for being here this late.

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Hold on, Tim.

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You have to be sworn in.

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Okay.

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Hi, sir, could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer?

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Tim DiPerturo, last name D-I-P-R-E-T-O-R-O.

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Do you swear or affirm that tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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Mr. DiPertura, were you on the call when I presented your project?

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Yes.

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And you heard my comments about the commercial space having frontage on Federal Street.

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Yes.

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Did you speak to any realtor or professional concerning the ability to lease commercial space behind the space that we're requesting?

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Yes. And, you know, the conversation and the thing was in today's commercial leasing market, visibility and street presence are critical factors in attracting and retaining tenants.

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Yes.

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and, you know, the conversation and the...

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and spaces two and three are the distinct disadvantage being in the middle and at the

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rear of the property and you know due to their lack of frontage exposure and absence of walk-up

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traffic making them particularly difficult to lease you know and not being on broad street

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you know added to that and with that was was where uh you know he basically said these are

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to be very very challenging to rent and and that's hence where the idea came up to replace the two

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rear and middle commercial spaces with residential dwelling

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and did you speak to a realtor about trying to rent the rear area in this commercial uh first

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floor and cellar yes that's what i have you know just stated to you okay so that information is

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is based on what a realtor told you yeah yes okay uh if you had the opportunity to testify

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would you adopt my testimony as your own and as true and correct yes okay all right all right

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questions from our attorney uh just a i was just a little bit confused by the refusal because it

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references that a commercial use will remain is this vacant commercial space at present or is

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there a proposed commercial use at this time no it's it's totally vacant it's um not being used

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the machine shop vacated i mean and the photographs so you so so there's not a use you there's not a

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commercial use being requested with this i just usually the refusal will say it's vacant commercial

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space use registration required prior to occupancy but this one didn't say that so that's why

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i just wanted to clarify that that's that's what's happening in this case is the space

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is vacant and at it at some point you know you you would submit a application for a use

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in that front portion correct correct okay all right thank you questions or comments from the

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virtual audience.

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Planning Commission.

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I see no hands, Chair.

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Madison Matera, Planning Commission staff.

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The Planning Commission recommends no change in zoning at this location from the existing CMX2 commercial mixed use.

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The appellant has not demonstrated that there are unique physical conditions or circumstances of the property that would prevent the property from being used in conformance with the zoning code.

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The Planning Commission recommends the Board deny the requested variance for unit count and multifamily.

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Can I respond?

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You can, sir.

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So my client reached out to a realtor that he has used in an attempt to analyze whether or not this deep commercial space is going to be rentable.

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The entrance to that space would have to be down an alley into the rear part of the building.

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I mean, there's many situations where store owners are lopping off the back half of their building, converting it to residential.

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I mean, it's happening in Chestnut Hill and it's happening in other areas where the commercial space is just too deep.

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This is a hundred foot deep property and it just doesn't make economic sense for the client to move forward with having empty commercial space on an off corridor street.

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Okay. Thank you. Henry, we're going to hold this until next Wednesday. We're going to vote for

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on it at two o'clock. We just want to have a little conversation about it.

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Understood. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Appreciate it. And Henry, before you go, I'm getting ready to open up for the 330 list.

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So I don't waste your time. The number one on the list, we believe is yours,

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but we thought there was going to be an amended refusal.

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Correct. And so did I. It just hasn't been issued yet. So I'm going to have to ask.

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So what I'll do when I call that today, I'll continue it. OK, thank you very much.

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Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. All right. Have a great night. All right.

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So we're going to go right into number one. Is there anyone whose 2 p.m. case has not been called?

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I see no hands, chair. OK, so we're going to go right into the 330 list.

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Good evening. My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing the RSA, the zoning board hearing for this for tonight.

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With me as our vice chair, Ismail Shahid.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Board member Shel L. Gaston.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Board member Teneda Graham.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Board member Michael Johns.

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Chairman. Board member Taya Nguyen. Present, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Also, here is our attorney, Hillary Emerson, our zoning board director, Ian Haggerty, and our board administrator, Lakeisha Dandy.

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Chairman.

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Board member Ty Owen.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you all.

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A recording of this hearing will be posted on the ZBA website.

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By participating, you consent to be recorded.

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There is an in-person meeting with remote capabilities.

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Whether remote or in person, if you're called to speak, you must state and spell your name and then wait to be sworn in.

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Once you're sworn in, please state your name each time before beginning your testimony.

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Any person may enter their appearance to become an interested party to a case.

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there are three ways to enter your appearance. You can identify the case property address on

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your Zoom webinar. You can see a staff member or you can call ZBA appearance line by the close of

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business tomorrow. Call 267-270-5548. Leave a message that includes your email address

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and the address of the property of the appeal case. The following guidance is for our remote

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attendees first when directed by the chair you must raise your virtual hand in order to be

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recognized second if you're called to testify you will be prompted to join as a panelist please

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accept the request and turn your camera third the webinar q a is for questions about the hearing

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do not comment on cases in the q a and fourth if you're participating by phone

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press star nine to raise your hand and star six to unmute um we also have uh directions for

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attendees in person there is no one in the room so we're going to go right into our our list right

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so i mean right that's i mean i'm not just joking i mean okay all right all right so

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So MI 2024-006-715-8200 to 08 Castor Avenue.

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This case is continued to 10-15-25 at 3-30.

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number three mi 2024 007 462 6215 north 13th street this case has been continued

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until 10-15-25 at 3-30.

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Case number four, MI 2024-007-465-6217 North 13th Street.

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Case is continued to 10-15-25.

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And number six, MI 2024-007-674-4927 5th Street.

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This case has continued to 10-15-25.

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We're going to go to the one case that we have, MI-2024-007-485-2146 North Franklin Street.

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Meredith Ferliger is the attorney.

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Meredith Ferliger is coming back in as a panelist now, Chair.

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Thank you.

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chairman members of the board good evening council could you please state your name and

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spell for the stenographer sure meredith ferlinger f-e-r-l-e-g-e-r right do you swear or firm to tell

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the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth i do would you identify your client the relationship

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to this property? My client is 2114 North 8th LLC, the owner of the property. That LLC is

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represented today by Dennis Schifrin. There's a letter of support from APMRCO. Vote was five

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in support, four in opposition. Four choose not to vote. Our vice chair has a few questions.

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Good evening, counsel. Do you agree to either read another refusal or stipulate to its accuracy?

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Yes, I do.

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Have you emailed in all of the required documents and exhibits that is needed to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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I did, with the exception of proof of tax compliance, which was sent in this morning.

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Thank you. Please proceed. And you've already shared your screens between you and us.

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This is the last case, I think.

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Save the best for last.

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no we've never seen you here this time of night personally uh you are i it's been a long time i

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had one at seven o'clock probably 10 years ago so it's been a long time that's a pretty good run

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The request before the board today concerns 2146 North Franklin Street, and we submit

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the request before the board today concerns 21 46

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that it is a de minimis request, so I will be brief.

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You have an exhibit packet in front of you that contains 15 exhibits.

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To briefly summarize the basis for today's request, this application requests a variance

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for the addition of a third residential unit, which would be permitted if the lot were less

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than 10% bigger than it is. Despite some unusual disruptions during the RCO meeting that were

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entirely unrelated to this project, the application did ultimately receive support from the local RCO

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APM. Let me first orient you to the location of this property. The deed and the recently submitted

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tax clearance are included at Exhibits 2 and 3, and for Board Council I did submit the tax

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clearance through the portal, so if you don't see it yet, it is there. As you can see on the aerial

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images that I have up on the screen at Exhibit 11, this property sits roughly mid-block between

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West Susquehanna Avenue and Diamond Street. As you'll see in the photographs a little bit later

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on the aerials are slightly out of date as there has been further development on this block since

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even these aerials were taken however they are still helpful to provide the context of the block

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which you'll notice has been significantly developed in recent years

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from the east view you'll see that the lot that is the subject of the application

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is one of the few remaining vacant parcels on this block.

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Consistent with the zoning map that's up on your screen at Exhibit 6,

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this is a nearly exclusively multifamily block that is zoned RM1.

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We have also included photographs at Exhibit 12 that provide a more current look of this block,

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again, given the volume of current development that has occurred here.

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From the first image, you'll notice that the property is surrounded by newer multifamily developments of predominantly two- and three-family density.

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There is not necessarily a uniform aesthetic character of the newer construction, which is shown in the next image here, directly across the street from the subject property.

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after that the next image is pointed towards the right of the property looking down towards

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West Susquehanna Avenue and then in this next image this one is the same side but looking down

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towards Diamond Street and again this predominantly shows the three-story character of this block

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despite the fact that these structures themselves vary a little bit in look

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i've also included another image showing across the street towards diamond street where again

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you can glimpse the significant construction that has occurred and this is showing the

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location of the property here this is the one showing directly across the street

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photos of the zoning posters which were timely posted are also included in the exhibit packet

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The proposal for 2146 North Franklin Street is shown on the zoning site plans at Exhibit 7

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and includes one new three-story structure. The building will contain three dwelling units.

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As you can see on the elevation, the structure is elevated so that the lower level is roughly

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four and a half feet above grade, similar to other newer developments on this block

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and possible due to the heightened grade of many of the properties on this block.

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Turning to the floor plans at Exhibit 8,

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the proposal includes three units, each a one-bedroom, one- or two-bathroom unit.

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Each unit has high ceilings of nine feet.

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The units are diversely sized.

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Unit A comprises the first floor and lower level and is just over 1,200 square feet.

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Unit B is on the second floor and is 560 square feet.

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Unit 3 is on the third floor and measures 650 square feet.

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There is also a roof deck.

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Each unit has its own washer and dryer, and trash will be stored interior to each unit.

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Dennis, my client, and his maintenance staff are responsible for all of his property's trash maintenance, which includes putting out and cleaning up trash after collection.

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Dennis, my client, and his maintenance staff are responsible for all of his properties.

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He does also own other properties in this immediate area and can answer any questions the board has about his management of properties in this immediate area.

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Just by way of example of what this may look like, at Exhibit 9, we've included a photograph of another recent development that my client is in the process of constructing, just to give you a sense of the aesthetic intent for this property as well, since the zoning plans are simply two-dimensional.

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now regarding the refusal the application was refused for the proposed density as two units

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would be permitted on the lot by right where three units are proposed as i mentioned earlier

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this block is nearly exclusively multifamily unfortunately the lot is 991 square feet

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which is a measly 89 square feet deficient to allow that third unit by right

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