civus
Hearing video

ZBA Hearing - October 5, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Oct 5, 20224h 36m

No, no, no.

Similar wording

did you see the uh email paulie

Similar wording

i saw the one that you sent so he lost his internet and she was just requested that he

Similar wording

can um join over the phone okay yes that sounds great

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

They're resending him the information right now.

Similar wording

Is he on?

Similar wording

Not yet.

Similar wording

Okay, good.

Similar wording

Good. Is it Mr. Kelly. Yes, sir.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

You

Similar wording

Thank you.

Similar wording

.

Similar wording

do you know if the um caller call them listener if either one of them is mr kelly

Similar wording

and mr kelly if you're in the audience can you please uh press star nine to raise your hand

Similar wording

I don't see any hands up, Keisha, right now.

Similar wording

Excuse me.

Similar wording

This is John Kelly, the court reporter.

Similar wording

Pardon the interruption.

Similar wording

I was knocked offline for several minutes.

Similar wording

I am back on now.

Similar wording

Oh, that's great, Mr. Kelly.

Similar wording

Mr. Kelly, let me, it's Bill.

Similar wording

Let me ask you, would you want us to start this over?

Similar wording

Do you have where you left off?

Similar wording

The last, unfortunately, the last thing I had was the vote for the add-on of 1525 North Stillman.

Similar wording

So, and that was some time ago.

Similar wording

I can get the audio link from Tanya or whoever's working on that right now, if I should need it, if anything should be requested.

Similar wording

All right, so why don't I do this?

Similar wording

Let's start with number seven again.

Similar wording

Okay, 6015 Baltimore Avenue.

Similar wording

all right mr kelly yeah all right yes yes thank you for getting back on mr kelly we

Similar wording

you're the most important person here we could all take our steps back but we feed you okay

Similar wording

all right jennifer could you start again please sure i'll just start from um beginning

Similar wording

all right so hi jennifer basilow i'm the attorney representing the owner of 6015

Similar wording

BALTIMORE AVENUE. SORELE VIGIER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY THROUGH HER LLC. WE'VE ALREADY SCROLLED THROUGH THE

Similar wording

PACKET SO I WON'T DO THAT AGAIN BUT SUBMITTED A PACKET WITH A REFUSAL DEED TAX COMPLIANCE LETTER OF

Similar wording

NON-OPPOSITION FROM COGS CREEK NEIGHBORS, AERIAL PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE BLOCK,

Similar wording

A ZONING MAP, PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY AND FLOOR PLANS. SO LET'S JUST GET TO THE FRONT PHOTO HERE.

Similar wording

All right. So, 6015 Baltimore Avenue is located in the Cobbs Creek neighborhood of Philadelphia.

Similar wording

The parcel is a little under 1,700 square feet and is in CMX1. And there's an existing

Similar wording

two-story structure that is a little under 3,100 square feet. My client purchased this property

Similar wording

in February of this year. At the time, it was already divided into three units, which

Similar wording

appeared to be residential units, and was instructed by her realtor that this was a

Similar wording

legal use of the property by right, and there was a potential for a fourth unit in the building,

Similar wording

again, by right. Relying on that information as a first-time investor, she purchased the property

Similar wording

and soon realized that this was not a by-right use of the property and applied for this variance.

Similar wording

So the original application was for four units.

Similar wording

That has been reduced to three units, and that was what was proposed to Cobbs Creek Neighbors,

Similar wording

and that is what they entered the letter of non-mob position for.

Similar wording

So let's go to the floor plans.

Similar wording

um the um the three units would be a studio in the um in the front um area of the first floor

Similar wording

um a hold on let me scroll up so you can see the whole floor plan um a one bedroom in the rear of

Similar wording

the property on the first floor and then the second floor which is over here you get up through here

Similar wording

is a two-bedroom one-bath unit. There is no living space in the basement. It is storage only.

Similar wording

There is no living space in the basement. It is storage only, and it is accessible by that studio unit for extra storage.

Similar wording

Each unit has an entrance off of a central hallway on the first floor hallway.

Similar wording

So here you can see this is the view from the back of the property to the front. That's the front door.

Similar wording

The front unit has a door right inside of that front entryway.

Similar wording

And then in the rear of the property, you see you have these doors.

Similar wording

This is the door to the second floor unit to the left.

Similar wording

And this is the door to the rear first floor unit.

Similar wording

And this is a door to the outside.

Similar wording

All of these properties have access, all of the units have access to the rear yard and this alleyway to the rear yard.

Similar wording

In the rear of the property, there is also, you can see in this left photo, an alleyway that connects the rear of the property to the street.

Similar wording

So each unit has multiple ways to exit the building and access to the rear yard where it's proposed that the trash would be stored and took out on trash day.

Similar wording

Okay. So I just also want to mention in terms of parking and that which is always a concern

Similar wording

in the neighborhood, this is right along the trolley lines for Baltimore Avenue, there's bus

Similar wording

access, as well as like a block away from the media Elwynn regional rail line. And so there's,

Similar wording

we, you know, I know everyone always says it, but there's a lot of public transit use

Similar wording

for the people that live in this neighborhood. Let's go to the zoning map. Okay, so

Similar wording

So this property is zoned CMX1, as are all the other properties, basically on this side of this block.

Similar wording

But that is not how these properties are being used.

Similar wording

And a three-unit residential building is actually much more consistent with these properties than would be a commercial use in this space.

Similar wording

So I've marked the use of the properties, current use.

Similar wording

you can see over here we have a cmx2 that's actually automotive use this is a three-story

Similar wording

building used which is a cmx1 that uses four residential units you have two vacant properties

Similar wording

another auto-centric business the corner does have a commercial space on the first floor it's

Similar wording

a salon with two units with two additional residential units our property the property

Similar wording

next door which is two residential units. The one next to it is three residential units.

Similar wording

We have two residential units with no commercial and then again on the corner we have a deli

Similar wording

with I couldn't really determine the number of residential units above but there are residential

Similar wording

units above. So as you can see the middle of the block is basically being used as more

Similar wording

of an RM1 type usage, not as commercial use. And if we go across the street, while it appears it's

Similar wording

RSA5 zoning through most of this block, about half of the properties are used as duplexes. As far

Similar wording

as I could find documentation for, it's possible even more of them are used as duplexes. And at

Similar wording

the corner, we have a very large senior housing complex. Again, I couldn't find the actual number

Similar wording

of units but it's a very large building so let's go to the aerial photos you can see

Similar wording

that's a really large residential building there. I also want to point out that our building has a

Similar wording

first story addition on the first floor and that's where this rear most of the rear first

Similar wording

first store unit is going to be so that's why it makes sense that this is one of the buildings that

Similar wording

have three units instead of just two, because it is a larger building than even the one next door,

Similar wording

which has a commercial unit and two residential units. So that makes sense. So you might say,

Similar wording

well, why aren't we using the commercial space? First of all, it's not what is happening on the

Similar wording

middle of this block. As you can see, this is all of this side of the block. You have a corner

Similar wording

commercial and a corner commercial and everything else is used as residential um and the residential

Similar wording

that what would be the commercial space is very small it's um less than 500 square feet which

Similar wording

makes it not really suitable or marketable for most of the uses we find in cmx1 um like a daycare

Similar wording

or retail um those sort of things i guess it could be an office but it's not a very large office

Similar wording

either uh my office is about that size and it's not really all that suitable for more than one

Similar wording

person um so we met with like i said so and we already do have on this block um you know

Similar wording

We met with, like I said, so, and we already do have on this block, you know, neighborhood accommodations, such as a salon and a deli, which would be common uses for CMX1 properties.

Similar wording

We did meet with Cobb's Creek neighbors on September 12th.

Similar wording

There were maybe two or three near neighbors who were there.

Similar wording

none of them were in opposition and one of them explicitly said they were so happy that there's

Similar wording

not going to be more commercial use on this block because they had been having trouble with the

Similar wording

congestion from the commercial uses so in summary you know we think this is an appropriate use of

Similar wording

this property given the way that these buildings are currently used and the surrounding uses of

Similar wording

the property. I just want to mention that if this was actually zoned RM1, like how this block is

Similar wording

basically being used at this point, based on the size of the parcel, four units would be allowed

Similar wording

by right, and we're just seeking to have three here. So we think it's an appropriate use. It's

Similar wording

consistent with the surrounding neighborhood. It wouldn't really burden anyone. None of the neighbors

Similar wording

are opposed, and it would provide much needed housing in the neighborhood. It was mentioned

Similar wording

at the community meeting that there was a lack of housing for people, especially smaller units

Similar wording

in the neighborhood, and that they thought this was a good use of the building. So that's my

Similar wording

summary, and I'm happy to answer any questions. Well, you want your client to adopt your testimony?

Similar wording

Absolutely. Sorrel, are you on? Can you raise your hand?

Similar wording

Mr. Sorrell, please unmute yourself and wait for the chair.

Similar wording

Hi, could you state your name and spell for the court reporter, please?

Similar wording

Hi, good morning. I'm Sorrell Vang.

Similar wording

Hi, could you state your name and spell it, please, for the court reporter?

Similar wording

Sure, Sorrell Vang, S-O-R-E-L-L-E-V-E-I-G-N-E.

Similar wording

right do you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

Similar wording

yes i do proceed counsel as well did you hear my testimony here today and believe it to be

Similar wording

truthful and accurate yes correct i do as your own yes thank you okay questions from the board

Similar wording

no mr chairman mr chair no mr chairman no mr chairman questions or comments from the virtual

Similar wording

audience. I see no hands this time, Chair. Planning Commission. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good

Similar wording

morning. David Fecto, F-E-C-T-E-A-U with the City Planning Commission. Do you swear a firm to tell

Similar wording

the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes, sir, I do. Proceed, sir. Thank you,

Similar wording

Mr. Chairman and members of the board. The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the

Similar wording

commercial mixed-use zoning at this location. This property, along with the others on this side of

Similar wording

the block, were built as commercial mixed-use buildings, and the commercial mixed-use one

Similar wording

zoning district allows the applicant the flexibility to decide whether to include

Similar wording

commercial space on the ground floor. The zoning archive shows that the building received approval

Similar wording

in 2002 for a ground floor commercial unit and one apartment. Converting the ground floor

Similar wording

commercial unit to residential would yield two apartments the third unit was built without

Similar wording

benefit of permit through no fault of the applicant and so the city planning commission recommends

Similar wording

the board grant the use variance for maximum of three dwelling units thank you MI 2022 003 456

Similar wording

60 15 Baltimore Avenue I vote yes proviso maximum three units

Similar wording

carol tenery my vote is yes with proviso thomas holliman my vote is yes with proviso james snell

Similar wording

my vote is yes with proviso ishmael shaheed my vote is yes with proviso thank you counsel

Similar wording

thank you so much okay number nine mi 2021 001 108 2500 wilmot street sean ward is the attorney

Similar wording

recommendation of support from the Bridesburg Community Action Alliance

Similar wording

Mr. Ward is coming back in as a panelist now chair thank you

Similar wording

good morning Mr. Chairman members of the board Sean Ward on behalf of the owner applicant

Similar wording

Hi, Mr. Ward, just for the record,

Similar wording

should you spell your name for the court reporter?

Similar wording

By all means. First name, Sean. S-H-A-W-N. Last name, Ward. W-A-R-D. Address is 331. East Street Road, Trevos, Pennsylvania, 19053.

Similar wording

By all means.

Similar wording

First name, Sean, S-H-A-W-N, last name Ward.

Similar wording

Do you swear a firm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Similar wording

Yes, I do.

Similar wording

And could you identify your client in relationship to the property, please?

Similar wording

Yes, Mr. Chairman, I represent ROW, that's R-O-W-R-O-W-L-L-C, which is the owner of the property.

Similar wording

Okay, our Vice Chair, Carl Tedere, has a few questions.

Similar wording

Hi, Mr. Ward, do you agree to waive the reading of the refusal and stipulate to its accuracy?

Similar wording

I will waive a reading, and there is one inaccuracy as I see it, which I will address during my presentation.

Similar wording

Okay. Have you emailed the exhibit packet with proof of ownership, tax compliance, a copy of the refusal or referral, photos and or plans of the property five days in advance of this hearing? And have you met with the RCO and do you have a letter?

Similar wording

Yes, to all the above.

Similar wording

Okay, great. You may proceed and begin by sharing your screen, which is already up.

Similar wording

Very good. Thank you, Madam Vice Chair. I've submitted my typical exhibit packet for Roro LLC

Similar wording

for the subject property at 2500 Wilmot Street. Just as a little background, Mr. Chairman,

Similar wording

you marked one matter for 2500 Wilmot Street as withdrawn at the beginning of today's session.

Similar wording

There were two applications pending in this matter. I was granted administrative leave by

Similar wording

the executive director to amend the refusal and basically what we did was we included whatever

Similar wording

uses and refusals or referrals that were in the other appeal into this one so we consolidated it

Similar wording

into one. And therefore, we withdrew the appeal at MI 2021 001001, which the board acknowledged

Similar wording

this morning. So that brings us back to the present case at application ZP 2021-001772

Similar wording

at calendar number 001108 before the board now. A1 is the notice of referral and refusal

Similar wording

as amended and consolidated. The application is basically for use permits for personal vehicle

Similar wording

repair and maintenance, as well as equipment and material storage. Now with regard to that refusal,

Similar wording

Let me just fast forward a little bit here. In 2015, a permit that was granted pursuant to a variance for equipment and material storage, as well as in 2018 for the erection of a new building for use as contractor's office equipment storage.

Similar wording

So I am not quite certain why that was refused in the present application when, in fact, in 2018, you know, at the earliest 2018, those uses were approved and the new application was filed within three years of 2018.

Similar wording

and therefore I believe those refusals for equipment and material storage were issued in

Similar wording

error. However, I'll defer to the board on how we deal with that today. In any event,

Similar wording

we submitted with the revised application a key plan which identified the uses in the 10 spaces.

Similar wording

As you can see, they're all either personal vehicle repair or contractor use with

Similar wording

material and equipment storage. So the amended refusal resulted in six refusals, actually six

Similar wording

refusals and referrals together. The order of repair requires special exception. There was five

Similar wording

of those. And then there was one refusal for equipment and material storage as not permitted

Similar wording

in the district. So today we seek special exceptions for the five tenant spaces and a

Similar wording

use variance for the equipment and materials storage yard. A2 is the ZBA application, A3

Similar wording

project information form. A4 proof of ownership, A5 proof of tax clearance. A6 is the aforementioned

Similar wording

site and key plan with regard to the amended application. A7 are photographs. A8 is the RCO

Similar wording

meeting notices and certificate of mailing. There was two meetings held in this matter.

Similar wording

A-9 is the RCO letter from Bridesburg. That letter does reference some provisos, which were not worked out at the time they submitted their RCO summary, but we have since resolved that and have come to an agreement as to provisos, which I believe are acceptable and related to the zoning issues at hand.

Similar wording

A9 is the RCO letter from Bridesburg. That letter does

Similar wording

A-10, I would ask if a district council person's letter was submitted, that that be marked as A-10.

Similar wording

Again, the relevant zoning history.

Similar wording

2015, equipment and material storage was approved and permitted.

Similar wording

And 2018, the same direction of a new building for use as contractor's office with equipment and storage.

Similar wording

A-12 is the zoning map.

Similar wording

A-13 is the aerial photograph.

Similar wording

So we have attached, we have the amended refusal.

Similar wording

We have both other refusals as part of both appeals, the applications for appeal.

Similar wording