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ZBA Hearing - May 28, 2025

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)May 28, 20257h 56m

on this site so i guess i'm trying to understand with tree cover like what's the proximity

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is this going to feel out of place for its location and look and look look out of place

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not feel yeah yeah i mean we try to pick materials that are more you know ornamental in nature like

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more aesthetically pleasing and we did um get art commission approval for this uh structure

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so they thought that you know aesthetically it wasn't obtrusive you know and then my last

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question is just a lot of the pwd pumping stations end up getting closed and then they sort of sit

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as leftover infrastructure across the city and other neighborhoods um is there a sort of sunset

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expectation on this already or is this something that we think is going to be in service for

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a long time yeah no we anticipate the staying in service you know for decades if not longer

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okay right other questions um go ahead just one uh so the actual erection of this building

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and its use for basic services and utilities was authorized by a city council ordinance

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Is that what I'm seeing?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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So then what we're really here for is about the heritage trees and the replacement and or the payment in lieu of replacing some trees.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Questions or comments from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience or the audience here?

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yes chair we have daniel troopman with their hand raised

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daniel troopman please let's have promotion to the panelists

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he declined to be promoted hi could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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chair he declined to promotion okay thank you is there anyone else

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there are no other hands play any commission

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Thank you, Chairman, and good morning. David Fecto with the City Planning Commission,

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Chairman and Board members. The comprehensive plan recommends no change to the special purpose

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open space zoning at this location. The appellant has shown that this project cannot be practically

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redesigned to protect the heritage trees for this critical public infrastructure.

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The City Planning Commission recommends that the Board grant a requested special exception

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for heritage tree removal thank you mi 2024 006 487 3401 west rod avenue i vote yes

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proviso revised plans four pages stamped by cba may 28 2025 stamp pages 2 and 15 to 17

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per conversations with l and i michael john my vote is yes with proviso

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Tenetta Graham, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Cheryl Gaston, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Tywin, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Shmuel Shaheed, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Thank you, counsel.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Number 8, MI 2025, 000309-10151 Busselton Avenue.

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Leonard Altieri is the attorney.

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there's a letter of opposition from somerton civic 13 to 8 and a letter of non-opposition

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from council member o'neill also there's an applicant provided support with two signatures

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from neighbors on the block council could you please state your name and spell for the stenographer

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yes mr chairman leonard l-e-o-n-a-r-d last name is altieri a-l-t-i-e-r-i and i am with

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the law firm of Claire Harrison Harvey Brandsburg here in Center City, Philadelphia. Do you swear

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or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? I do. Could you identify

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your client, a relationship to the property? Yes, my client is Busselton HD LLC, which is the owner

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of the property located at 10151 Busselton Avenue. Our vice chair has a few questions.

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Morning, counsel. Do you agree to wait the reading of the refusal or stipulate to his accuracy? I do.

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Have you emailed in all the required documents and exhibits as needed five days in advance of

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this hearing i did mr vice chair with the exception of a revision yesterday uh when we

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received the letter of non-opposition from the councilman's office thank you council um please

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proceed and show your screen. Thank you very much.

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Okay. So again, good morning, everyone. Leonard Altieri with the law from McClare Harrison

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Okay.

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for the property at 10151 Busselton Avenue. It is important to note at the beginning that

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we are here for an application for a retail bakery with baking on-premises. The L&I refusals

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for food and beverages and groceries in an existing commercial structure. The existing

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commercial structure, which we'll get into greater detail through the presentation, was

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originally approved in 1962 and has remained a commercial use and has been a commercial

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operated entity or commercial operated property since that time. Again, we'll get into greater

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detail, but I just want to make sure that we frame that for the board, you know, that it's been used

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as a commercial property since the 1960s. It was approved, as I said, by this board seven years

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before we landed on the moon to give a little context on how long that's been around. So again,

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the property is currently 10151 Busselton Avenue. It is currently a daycare for the St. Luke

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Orthodox Ukrainian Church. When you look at the property, and this is it from a sky view,

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property is located right where my cursor is. George Washington High School is located to the

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left. You do have some institutional uses, such as a synagogue across the street, and then there

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are some residential structures around it. Again, this is a front view of the subject property.

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and again a more zoomed out view giving you the context with the entire parking lot

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again since its construction in 1960s the subject property has continuously been used as commercial

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use it is located in the rsd3 and this is just going down pusselton again properties to the left

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so george washington high school is to your right

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and properties here here's church washington high school the property is in the rsd3 residential

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single family detached zoning district it is also subjected to five overlay districts none of which

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are applicable for this morning's hearing what my client is proposing to do is to keep the existing

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walls of the structure and renovate it to do a bakery. The bakery will be the entire footprint

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of the property, excuse me, of the existing structure. And we received the refusal from

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L&I because the proposed use, the retail sale of food, beverages, and groceries is prohibited in the

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RS3D zoning district. Again, the bakery will take up the entire footprint of the building,

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and it's going to be Mediterranean themed. So they're going to have pita, which will be baked

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on premises. Other baked goods, which will be cooked on premises, including cookies, baklava,

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general sweets, hummus, olive oil, spices, coffee will be ground on premises. And again, pita will

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be one of the large bakery items that they provide. There's also a small grocery that is

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proposed, grocery area, if you will, which as you can see on the floor plan right here. So again,

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shelves are going to be here. You're going to have some shelves in the back and then refrigerated

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areas to similarly look as what we're showing right here. This will not be a sit down. And

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after having conversation with the RCO, we will not even have chairs for people who are waiting.

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That was one of the things that the RCO did request that there'd be no chairs on the inside.

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There also will not be a bench on the outside. The RCO had some concerns about students congregating

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afterwards. And my client is going to respect the wishes of the RCO on that. Hours of operation will

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be 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., seven days a week for customers. There will be reduced hours on Sunday.

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We do expect that employees will be in there from 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. The reason why the employees

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will be there earlier is, again, because this is a bakery. Obviously, baking gets done early in the

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morning. We are expecting that with regards to total number of employees, it will have around

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four to six. Total number of parking spaces is what's already there existing, which is 19,

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including two ADA spaces. We have had conversations with the neighbors, and we do have a petition of

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support that was signed by three neighbors across the street. We've also had conversations with

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other neighbors around who were indifferent to the project, but were not comfortable with signing

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anything. And here is that RCO, excuse me, here is that petition of support, which for some reason

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isn't coming in as clearly right now in these exhibits. We will have an exhaust hood. The

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the exhaust hood will be located, the vending will be on the roof, and we will control that.

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Understanding that we are in close proximity to neighbors, my client is going to be installing

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an electrostatic air cleaner that will hang internally and will discharge fresh, clean air

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from the top. These electrostatic air cleaners are for industrial-grade

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venues, if you will, and they collect particles such as dust, oil mist, cooking fumes,

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and various pollutants, usually in factories and machine shops.

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But we understand that we are in close proximity to neighbors

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We understand that we are in close proximity to neighbors, and so to cut back on the bakery smells, we are going to install one of these.

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and sort of cut back on the bakery smells.

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Again, it is important to remember that we're not preparing to cook anything on premises.

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There will not be any fried food.

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It will be purely the only thing being made there is going to be things associated with baking.

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So, again, cookies and pita.

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We will have loading and unloading.

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That will occur in the back of the building at street level through the existing doors.

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Deliveries will be as needed and only during business hours.

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the storage and trash there's currently a a playground in the back that'll be a separate

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enclosed trash enclosure that we will have for the for the dumpster area as you can kind of see

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right here trash will will be picked up potentially three times a week and maybe even more if needed

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and we will coordinate the trash pickup during business hours starting at 9 a.m not at 6 not at

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AM, understanding that, again, we do have a lot of neighbors that are around us.

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Now, I alluded to in the beginning of this presentation about the prior zoning history,

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and I apologize, and we've already seen these.

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This property was originally approved in 1962 for the erection of a medical center with

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accessory all-street parking and an accessory sign.

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That use has continued to the present day, with the most recent being, most recent decision

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from the Zoning Board in 2016, granting a variance for a religious assembly along with

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the previously approved use of group medical dental health practitioner. The site has never

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been used for residential. The site is also not laid out, quite frankly, for residential use the

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way that it is right now. With regards to the RCO meeting, as the chairman alluded and as part of

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my exhibit packet, we did have an RCO meeting on May 13th where the RCO voted not to support the

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variance. The vote was 8 to 13 against. As was stated in the letter of opposition, there were

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45 members present. Only 21 members voted, so less than half. But none of the individuals who

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were present at the meeting, none of those 45 that were there, and none of the 21 that voted

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were members who were in the affected area. No one there received a letter of notice for that

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hearing. They were just individuals as part of that RCO that came for their general meeting.

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Again, while there's nothing controversial or concrete on why the application itself was

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denied. The questions were pretty benign when we went through the presentation. The RCO letter did

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state three or four questions that were asked as potential reasons of why we might have received

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the refusal. The one had to do with concern about traffic exiting the site and making a left-hand

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turn onto Busselton Avenue. Having conversation with the councilman for this district, along with

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my client, we will, at our own expense and in coordination with the streets department, install

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no left-hand turn, so you're only going to be able to make a right-hand turn onto Busselton,

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so you won't have to cross over Bustleton to make that left. I think people were concerned

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with regards to George Washington High School being there and traffic flow being pretty heavy.

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Concern about proximity to the building to nearby residents. Again, this use for over 60 years has

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always been a commercial use. We believe that this is a nice transitional use from the institutional

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use of George Washington High School to what I will refer to as a soft commercial with a bakery

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and then going into that residential district. Again, it's always been used as a commercial use

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with those residential properties around it.

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Again, being aware of the proximity of the neighbors,

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we're going above and beyond

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with that electronic electrostatic air cleaner

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to collect any sort of pollutants or smell

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that might be discharged from the baking.

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And then lastly, there was concerns

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about the adjacent high school

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and the quote, afterschool misbehavior

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of various kinds on the part of some students.

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Again, my client originally was gonna have a bench out there

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for people who were waiting for baking,

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for their bakery items to be done.

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The RCO, prior to the vote, asked if we would remove that.

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We will still respect the wishes of the RCO, even though they gave us a letter of opposition.

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We will not have a bench there.

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But we don't view George Washington High School being right next to us as a detriment.

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My client actually views it as a benefit to retain employees, to retain individuals who

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might have an interest in the culinary arts, such as baking.

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And that's something that he hopes to cultivate with that school.

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The RCO did request, as a condition of approval, that we deed restrict the property so that

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there would not be any sort of commercial uses, which realistically are already prohibited under

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the zoning code, but that they view as concerning, such as tattoo parlors, medical marijuana,

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dispensaries. They were all referenced in the RCO letter of opposition. Even though the RCO voted

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to vote, voted against us, and we did say, you know, at the hearing, hey, we would enter into

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that deed restriction. They still voted to oppose the relief that we're requesting today. So even

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Even though we're no longer bound by saying, yes, we'll do that, we do believe that that's important to the RCO, and so we will deed restrict after final non-appealable zoning.

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We will put a deed restriction in there to address the zoning uses that they have concerns about.

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We will deed restrict our property to, again, be a good neighbor to that area.

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uh to that area lastly and in closing again uh we did receive that refusal from l and i because of

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Lastly, and in closing, again,

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the the proposed use of retail sale food beverages and groceries is prohibited in the district and

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we do have a letter of non-opposition from the councilman we were in contact with the councilman

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prior to the zba here excuse me prior to the rco meeting and then also after the rco meeting

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again highlighting the fact that we do believe this is a soft transitional use and also the fact

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that for 62 years, it's always been a commercial property and has continued to be a commercial

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property. With that being said, Mr. Chairman, I do have my client here that I would like to just

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have adopt my testimony. Sure. Sure. Could you make sure that Mike's closed here? Could you

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please state your name and spell for the stenographer? My name is Hashim Dahabra. First

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name Hashim, H-A-S-H-E-M. Last name Dahabra, D-A-H-A-B-R-E-H. Do you swear or affirm to tell

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the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

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Please proceed, Counselor.

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Hashem, can you state what

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your interest is to this property? You're the owner

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of, are you the, excuse me,

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are you the

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