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ZBA Hearing - December 6, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Dec 6, 20234h 7m

good afternoon mr elliot good afternoon chair members of the board could you state your name

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please and spell for the court stenography my name is peter elliot p-e-t-e-r-e-l-l-i-o-t

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right do you swear or further tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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i do could you identify your client the relationship to this property yes my client

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IS 13 HOMES OPPORTUNITY LLC, WHICH IS THE OWNER AND APPLICANT.

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OUR VICE CHAIR HAS JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

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GOOD AFTERNOON COUNSEL, DO YOU AGREE TO WAVE THE READING OF THE REFUSAL AND STIPULATE

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TO ITS ACCURACY?

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I DO.

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HAVE YOU EMAILED IN ALL THE REQUIRED DOCUMENTS AND EXHIBITS THAT ARE NEEDED AND REQUIRED TO

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PROCEED WITH THIS CASE FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THIS HEARING?

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YES, I DID.

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please proceed and share your screen

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is the board able to see my screen it's up it's up now sir okay

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great okay so this property 5028 north 12th street is located in the logan section of the

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city. So I'm just trying to orient you here with a satellite

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image. This is exhibit five. And so the blue icon is where the

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property is located. And the yellow boxes slightly to the

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left, run up and down Broad Street. And the grass towards

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the bottom of the image has Roosevelt Boulevard just below

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it. So we can go down. So as you can see, this is another map of the same area showing the streets

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as opposed to being a satellite image. That's West Roosevelt Boulevard down in the lower right-hand

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corner. And the property is located near to the intersection of Lindley and 12th Street.

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near to the intersection of Lindley and 12th Street.

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So this is the image of a zoning map as the city has currently zoned.

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It's in the RSA 3 district. As you can see, it's two blocks off of Broad Street, which has a much greater density along that corridor.

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so this is a head-on image of the property it's the yellow one on the left as far as the twin

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houses go this next image is looking straight down 12th street southbound again the property

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is on the right it's the yellow house and this is looking northbound on 12th street

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it's on the left this time it's the yellow house

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so uh just by way of general introduction to my client 13 homes opportunity llc

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uh the board may remember that we were here on two presentations previously on july 19th

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relating to 31 1321 west wing of hawking street and 4645 north north 13th street those were

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what we described as part of a scatter site proposal, and this is a continuation of that

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scattered site proposal. So 13 Homes Opportunity LLC is a mission-driven LLC that strives to

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eliminate societal prejudice and inequities. So they're committed to providing affordable

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and workforce housing using high-quality building materials, renewable and sustainable technologies

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with an energy-efficient design.

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They install energy-efficient appliances,

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brand new, in all of the units.

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The goal here is to keep local families

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in Philadelphia in the neighborhood.

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I'll bring Leslie Hollins,

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the real estate manager, on shortly,

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but she will tell you that the goal

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is to keep local families

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who are either low-income or single parents

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and give them a place to stay.

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So they work with services, nonprofits, to keep families in their home.

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The nonprofits help to screen.

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Mr. Elliott.

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It looked like it may be his Internet share.

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This is how I noticed.

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Yeah.

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yeah i think you're right

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yeah we have a hand up with kevin greenberg could that be his associate or well kevin

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kevin greenberg's an attorney okay all right so what let's let's see maybe it's his associate

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okay kevin greenberg you're free to speak yes members of the board hello good afternoon um

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thank you for uh peter is my colleague he is down okay just for the record kevin state your name

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please and spell for the course greenberg g-r-e-e-n-b-e-r-g right do you swear for him to

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tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth of course mr chair i'm sure can you pick

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up where he was um i cannot because he has this the the display on his screen and not here he has

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texted me that his computer has crashed and he is rebooting so if you can hold on for a minute or

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We'll hold for a couple of minutes.

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Yep.

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Thank you very much, members of the board.

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Greenberg, are you still on?

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Yes, I am.

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I am texting him again to see what's going on.

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Yeah, just see if he can't reboot.

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If not, we can pick it up.

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We will figure out a way to get the presentation back up.

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And I can certainly put Ms. Hollins on and have her adopt the testimony because this really is essentially a version of the same program.

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have her adopt the testimony, because this really is essentially a version of the same program you

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saw. Yeah, we've heard from them before. So I appreciate this. I know we're the last one on a

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long day. So. If you want to take a two-minute recess, Your Honor, we will be back up either

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from my computer or his by then if you want to if you can he get to you yeah he's i'm going to go

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down the hall i just have to figure out how to get oh okay okay all right i have to figure out

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how to get to the slideshow is the problem okay all right we're going to wait two minutes all

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right you got it i'll be right back okay

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Bye-bye.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Chairman, he's in the process of re-registering.

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He will be right back.

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The computer is back online.

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All right.

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That's great.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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he's coming back in as a panelist chair okay

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okay peter

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i apologize for that no that's okay peter uh so i i think i know where you were here's a question

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for you. On that block where you're putting this on 12th Street, are the other homes multiple?

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Absolutely. Yes. By our estimation, more than 50% of those homes are multiple units. They're

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not legalized by our review. But there's plenty of parking on that block. I've parked with no

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issue every time I've stopped by. And you can tell by the mailboxes and the meters on the

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properties that those are multiple units. And the neighbors at the meeting said so as well.

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So why don't you bring on the representative?

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Yes.

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If Leslie Hollins is here, she can raise her hand and we will.

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I'll ask her to unmute herself.

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Yep.

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Leslie, please let us know when you are unmuted.

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Leslie Hollins is free to speak.

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Hi, Leslie, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court stenographer?

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Sure. Leslie Hollins, L-E-S-L-I-E, Hollins, H-O-L-L-I-N-S.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, counsel.

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So, Leslie, first, I'd just like to ask you if you could explain just a little bit more about the 13 Homes Mission on a national level and at the Philadelphia level.

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Sure. So our family office does social impact infesting in mainly marginalized and disinfested neighborhoods.

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And for the 13 Homes Project, we partnered with social service partners like Mr. Elliott stated, and we take housing that is blighted.

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And we take housing that is blighted and return it back to the community.

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Great. And so, Leslie, is the goal here to change the property as it is currently existing in terms of its shape or how many units are existing in it?

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No.

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Right. Okay. And so, Leslie, did you hear all of my statements that I made previously before I got kicked off the system?

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Yes.

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And would you agree with those statements?

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I agree.

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And would you adopt it as your own testimony?

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Yes.

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So, members of the board, I can walk you through the exhibits that we have, but we have a letter of support from the community organization.

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We have a letter of support from the city council member that came in this morning.

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We do.

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We have that.

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We have Logan Civic and also the council member Phillips.

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Yep.

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And so the neighborhood was unanimous.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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So questions from the board?

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Chair.

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No, Chair.

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Questions or comments from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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I see no handshare.

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Planning Commission?

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Ron Bednar, City Planning.

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Properties indicated for residential use on the city plan,

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given the physical circumstances of the site.

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We recommend, we have no objection to the granting advance.

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Thank you.

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MI 2023

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002865

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5028 North 12th Street

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I vote yes

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Thomas Holliman

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my vote is yes

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James Snell

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my vote is yes

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you have your three votes sir

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thank you very much

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thank you Mr. Elliott

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and tell Mr. Greenberg

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thanks too

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we appreciate it

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I'm sorry about that

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thanks again

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no no no it's fine

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that's fine members of the board thank you for bearing with us we do appreciate it thank you

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thank you thank you is there anyone in the virtual audience whose 3 30 case has not been called

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i see no hands chair uh thanks everyone we're done for the day thank you bill all right

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good night all thank you

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