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ZBA Hearing - July 21, 2021

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Jul 21, 20215h 54m

the refusal in the course of the zoning hearing. Thank you. Thank you, Sharon.

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So going back to the zoning information block that was provided by the applicant,

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it notes that there are two variances required. And one of the two variances that the applicant

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is required for this case is minimum rear yard death nine feet and they're proposing two feet

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11 inches so the applicant themselves and their own application materials is conceding that there

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is another refusal that was not issued here and if i direct them we have a refusal for seven feet

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the lot is shorter than 45 feet in width and so that's seven feet which we've already stated we

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can't comply with miss persker i'm just reading from your own zoning block and i'm sorry if your

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zoning block has multi wires. If I could just read from the zoning code and the provision

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that was missed. This is section 14305.4 or 14305.16 where a rear wall does not meet a rear yard

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minimum death requirement. A vertical extension of that wall is an increase of that specific

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non-conforming and is not permitted. So we're dealing here with a vertical extension of a

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non-conforming structure. And my client also takes issue with whether this is a legal non-conforming

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addition to the property. In accordance with 143054, it is the applicant's burden to show

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that the non-conforming structure had at one point been recognized as a legal structure by

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City of Philadelphia prior to enact the zoning code. There is no documentation that has been

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provided by the applicant on when the addition at 746 came into existence, the means and terms

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by which it came into existence, or whether it's ever been recognized as a legal structure by the

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City of Philadelphia. And we represent that it is simply not and the applicant has not met their

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burden. In terms of the setback, if I could ask that the applicant's zoning plan Z001

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focus in on the proposed addition. Could we zoom in some more please?

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A little more.

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so their plans note two important things here one it identifies with two dashed lines

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existing second story rear wall to be demolished line of existing second story and then further

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back into the rear yard the plan notes line a new third story so clearly they are both

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impertinously extending vertically a non-conforming structure, but they're also

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but they're also increasing the amount of non-conformity by extending the wall further

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increasing the amount of non-conformity by extending...

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into the rear yard setback. So that is another separate reason that a refusal should have been

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issued and that the applicant has not met their burden for a variance here. And as Mr. Perry

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eloquently stated, there is no hardship here. Can we pull up the refusal and look at the actual

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issued refusals from L&I, please?

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You have it on the screen, Scott.

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Yeah, because I believe we have two refusals, one for the rear yard, as you're saying,

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Mr. Toner, and one for the eight-foot setback.

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I'm just trying to understand what you're trying to say.

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Oh, well, Ms. Pritzker had represented that there was no refusal issue for the rear yard,

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so I was addressing that.

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No, that's, Mr. Toner, you're mischaracterizing that.

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I believe, I believe she was stating that there's no coverage issue on the lot.

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There is a rear yard variance that we were requesting.

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As far as lot coverage, there is none.

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Correct.

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What I was alluding to was to answer Mr. Holloman's comment about the addition, and

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had said that we're not here because the addition for a lot coverage reasons we're here because of

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the rear yard depth which has nothing to do with the addition that was the clarification i had

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already went through the refusals at the beginning of my testimony and actually put them on the screen

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so that the board could directly see what refusals we were talking about which included the rear yard

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depth well we could all agree now that a refusal has been or should have been issued for further

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encroachment through rear yard death. Yeah it's it's well it's it's clearly here there's two

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refusals one for rear yard death and one for the front setback. Otherwise the transcripts

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can speak for itself so we can just move forward. If I could share my screen Mr. Chairman.

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The record reflect I have shown on Zoom what was marked as Exhibit 4, DERTA Exhibit 4,

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which is provided to the Board in advance of today's hearing.

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Where my cursor is right now is the separation between my client's property at 1814 Fitzwater

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and the proposed extension at 746 Cleveland Street.

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The separation distance, as my client can testify to today, is approximately five feet.

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And as Mr. Woodruff testified or alluded to earlier, that there was a generous provision for shadows

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and that there's going to be a degree of variability in terms of shadows and setback.

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What I would like to point out that is, Mr. Woodruff was at the zoning hearing for 748, so was Ms. Pritzker.

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They certainly received our exhibits beforehand today, and they knew that the issue of the impact on light and air at 1814 Fitzwater was going to be central to my client's concerns.

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Mr. Woodruff has referenced shadows, but what's omitted in their packet is a shadow study.

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When you are constructing a two-story addition within a mere five feet, not from my client's

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property line, but from my client's kitchen and my client's sitting room and my client's outdoor

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deck space, the issue of the shadows is paramount and obvious, and it can't be avoided,

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but was avoided by this applicant. We have no record testimony or no record evidence

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on the shadows and how they can be alleviated, addressed, ameliorated. They can't be.

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This extension of the rear of 746 will undeniably, unavoidably cast not just shadows of my client's property, but it's going to be a development of a structure within so close proximity to my client's living space that it stands in direct conflict with the simple purpose of the rear yard setback that all property owners enjoy in Philadelphia.

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which is you shouldn't have two structures built one on top of each other and that's exactly what's

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being proposed here without any explanation any basis for a hardship and I know that this is a

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property Mr. Katz purchased back in July of 2019 two years ago for

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Back in July of 2019, two years ago, for $440,000, it was a single-family, two-story home that had a very significant market price in 2019.

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It's continued to be used as a single-family home in a viable manner.

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They simply provided no evidence whatsoever on how they suffered any hardship.

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They have a very valuable property that's not casting significant shadows on my client's property right now.

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They're asking for a variance that will only increase the value of their property all at the cost of the use and enjoyment of my client's property.

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That's not a basis for a variance.

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They've provided no legal authority to give them a right to a variance.

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In this circumstance, it's respectfully submitted that none exist.

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um i'd like to revise mr toner's comments if you could leave up his exhibit on the screen

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it does a great job of showing the addition to the property uh 714 sorry 1812 and 1814 were

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consolidated by mr toner's client she has a significant rear yard in the back and an addition

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that I didn't find any documentation for in the zoning archives that extends and does not provide

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eight-foot setback. Mr. Toner, if you could leave up the aerial of your client's property on the

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screen, that would be appreciated, or I can share my screen. I have it as well.

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Yeah, thank you. So as the board can see, her addition stretches way back into the rear of the

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property. Her lot is actually over 3,200 square feet, according to the city's records. She also

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has two backyards because she consolidated two properties. So there's ample open space, light

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and air. And these properties actually have a hardship. They're under 700 square feet.

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They don't have the ability to go up a crazy amount. Again, if we were going to do this by

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right, we'd be at 38 feet, which would be more intrusive to Mr. Toner's client. We're actually

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going to be at 32 feet and again with a mansard roof slope pilot house and pulling back the rear

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addition specifically on 746 also if you will get 744 south cleveland which i mentioned which is

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directly also directly adjacent they were approved of variance to extend even further back which the

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board granted in 2011 so i can't i wouldn't agree that ours is going to exponentially uh impede her

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light and air it's something that's self-caused by putting an addition that takes up 100% lock

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coverage, almost 100% lot coverage, and she has two lots with two backyards and almost a 3,200

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square foot property. So in addition, I don't know if you saw the changes we made in order to make

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it as minimally impactful as possible. And we did explain what the hardship was, is that we'd have

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to demo part of the existing building in order to meet the seven foot rear yard, and that most of

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these properties don't have even a five foot rear yard. So we are in line with everything else in

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the block and is the minimum variance as opposed to your client's property who again is almost

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four times the size of ours if not larger and has a addition that I haven't seen any permits for

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either that takes up almost 100% law coverage. Would someone go back to there was a photograph

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of the rear yard of 746 and it also shows to the right of that I don't know if it's Mr. Toner's

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client or not a building that had white siding a vinyl siding on it could we go back to that

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that was in mr perry's exhibit package chairman mr perry could quickly go to that i just had a

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question i think it's in the same line of and mr chairman i would like to address the the permitting

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status of 1814 as well as a misrepresentation that this is an addition that my clients well i

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again i'd like to see that photograph because it looks to me as though there is no rear yard but

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i just want to make certain that because the addition is in the way

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or the extension of the property however you like to classify it

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that's your client's address again mr toner 1814 fitzwater this is one of the original

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structures in the neighborhood goes straight back does it not and there's no yard on that property

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1814 goes straight back that's correct straight back no yard correct the yard was created when

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your client purchased the other properties adjacent she always owned 1812 and she

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consolidated them these properties have always been owned together so she's already had two rear yards

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Mr. Chairman, in our exhibit packet, Exhibit 12b, this is a zoning permit.

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This is a zoning permit. When they consolidated the lots back in 2014, there was no addition to the property. This was simply a consolidation of lot lines.

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when they consolidated the last fact

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There was no refusal issued. My client didn't need or secure or request a variance. It was not needed. It was simply to consolidate.

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the point i'm trying to make is your client at 1814 that had no has no rear yard

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a lot of the yard space was created when she bought the adjacent property no that's not

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correct no did she go correct me now yeah no there is a rear yard behind 1814.

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and my clients here can testify that you had just said it went straight back that's why we're

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yeah that's why that's all right that's apparently you're having problems I also want to just rebut

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Mr. Toner's comment that his client didn't obtain a variance this property on 1814 Fitzwater has

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obtained many use variances over the years if you we submitted all of the zoning archives in our

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packet and the chairman and board can look it up online she's obtained various use variances

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over the years and when you do a lot line relocation they simply look that you're meeting

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the correct dimensional considerations and they don't look at any of the use permits as far as

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variances that you've obtained or any of the building considerations as Mr. Toner knows as

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I'm sure he's done a lot of consolidations. Ms. Pritzker I just have a question your client

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could have gone to 38 feet as a buy right correct? Correct. Is there any reason why he chose

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your clients chose not to do that as opposed to what they're presenting today uh yeah they could

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avoid a lot of headaches i guess if they went to 38 feet uh because uh we would still be here for

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rear yard depth and for the timing of it we were thought that submitting them together would be

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easier for the neighborhood to look at them both together and the reason we're not at 38 feet is

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because we wanted to be considerate of the concerns of the community and the scale of the block

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anyone else to testify in this case Mr. Chico I had a few more items I'd like to address

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please do I'd like to call Mr. Smith to testify

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my name is Gerda Smith I reside at 1814 Fifth Quarter Street I have lived there since 1971

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in this building.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth,

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the whole truth, nothing but the truth?

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you, ma'am. Please proceed.

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I've lived this since 1971

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when my father-in-law died

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who had purchased these properties

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in 1944,

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had a business there

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which extended and took part

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of what is now the backyard.

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The building itself

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is does not have a first floor living area. The only place I live is on the second floor

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and on the in the front of the third floor. Ms. Smith. Yeah. An issue of notice was raised by Mr.

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Perry in his examination. Did you receive a copy of the notice of either the SOSTA meeting or the

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a new meeting from the Appalachian? She was at the meeting. I received one notice with regard to 748.

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In regards to 746, did you receive a notice? No. They were heard on the same day. Nicole can speak

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to that. 746 and 748 were held at the same meeting and Ms. Smith was at that meeting.

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Ms. Smith, did you attend that meeting where they discussed 746 South Cleveland? No, I attended a

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meeting where 748 was discussed. They were held at the same time. According to the attorney for

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the applicant, they were both being, they were held at the same time. Well, that may be an arrow

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on my part. If we could go back to the applicant's notice, were they both noticed as being held on

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the same time? We sent out two letters, but yeah, they were at the same time. It was something that

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Sazna had agreed to, given they were identical proposals. So in order to not have the community

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come out twice and that's why also we were sent proviso plan forms from sasna at the same time

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because they were asking the same thing for both properties that we were fine agreeing to

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okay mr toner i'd like to show the board what we've marked as exhibit 11.

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Ms. Smith, can you please identify what's the mark as Exhibit 11?

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This is the rear of 746 and 748 Cleveland Street in a photo taken from my third floor bathroom.

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Cleveland street in a photo taken from my third floor bathroom. Did you take this photo? I took

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this photo. And how close is the existing first story edition at 746 to your building itself?

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Just over two feet. And what are your concerns about the impact of this proposed development

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on your use and enjoyment of 1814 Fitzroy Street?

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Well, that's where I live.

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That's where my windows are.

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That's where my sun comes in.

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That's where the air flows through.

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All of this will be taken away, highly diminished,

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and I will be living in a shadow place with constantly lights,

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turning on lights in order to see.

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I have a question.

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how did do you live directly behind 746 yeah my how do you get the angle the way you are it looks

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like it would be on a property next to you i'm on the third floor i don't understand that but it's

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it looks as though you would be one property to the left of 746 as it appears in this well you

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see 744 you see a little bit of 744 and then 746. So Mr. DeChica this is 746 right here

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if she's standing on the third floor here that's the perspective you're getting. Well so on an

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angle so it's not directly. Correct. Well her property is right here and it's directly. Yeah

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but it extends. This is her living space this is her kitchen right here. I understand I'm just

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curious how she got that angle if it was directly uh she was directly facing 746.

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so part of part of what where she lives faces yeah she's directly she's perpendicular to okay

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all right thank you

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miss smith would you be uh would how would you feel about uh 746 being developed at

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to 38 feet in height. Oh, I'd be very upset. Thank you.

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Were you ever shown any studies from the applicant on how this proposal would impact

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air and light? Nope, none.

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Did you receive the revised plans and did you respond to my email or ask me for any

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additional information regarding the revised plans that we sent or any conversations we

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