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ZBA Hearing - November 9, 2023

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Nov 9, 20235h 14m

would like to see more corner businesses in the interior of the neighborhood, which is exactly

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what we're proposing today. It also talks about how Washington Avenue really does not allow a lot

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of viable uses because of its industrial zoning, which is also a problem. So I'm not sure what

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Greg is going to have to say in a moment, but I would say that the central district plan seems to

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me at least to sort of promote putting our type of business within this neighborhood, despite the

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residential zoning of our property. So with that, I will ask if I can bring on Tammy to adopt my

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testimony.

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Tammy Murphy has been unmuted and allowed to speak, Chair.

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Could you state your name, please, and spell it for the court stenographer?

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Tammy Murphy, and it's spelled T-A-M-M-Y-M-U-R-P-H-Y.

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Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

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I do.

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Please proceed, Counsel.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Hi, Tammy. Were you able to hear my testimony over the last few minutes in your zoning case today?

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Yes.

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Was my testimony true and accurate to the best of your knowledge, information, and belief?

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Yes.

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And would you therefore adopt it as if it were your own testimony?

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Yes.

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Okay. Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Questions from the board?

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No, Chair.

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No, Mr. Chairman.

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No, Chair.

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questions or comments from our attorney hillary emerson

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not at this time mr chair questions or comments from the virtual audience

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i see no hands at this time chair planning commission

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greg i noticed that they're sending questions your way before even at your turn here i'm

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that was in the day uh yeah um yes i uh i i don't know if there was a preliminary preliminary

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zoning uh meeting but i was not part of that but i'll just speak to the um the recommendation that

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i have um good afternoon chair members of the board the conference plan recommends no change

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to the existing residential single-family zoning proposed personal services use exists in the

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redacted reuse of the historic church structure the city planning commission recommends the zoning

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board for at the variance. Thank you. MI 2023-003-839-810-South 23rd Street, I vote yes.

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Thomas Holloman, my vote is yes.

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James Snell, my vote is yes. Ishmael Shahid, my vote is yes.

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Thank you.

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Number 10, MI 2023-002-937-5610 Lancaster Avenue.

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Carrie Nass Poust is the attorney.

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Let her support from the Overbook West Neighbors Incorporated.

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Carrie Nass Poust is coming back and is a panelist now, Chair.

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good afternoon could you state your name please and spell for the court stenographer

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good afternoon my name is carrie nace paust i'm an attorney with law firm of fox rothschild

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last name n-a-s-e hyphen p-o-u-s-t you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth

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nothing but the truth yes i do could you identify your client a relationship to the property

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yes my client is family dollar stores of pennsylvania llc and they are the tenant at this

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property our vice chair has a few questions good afternoon council do you agree to wave

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the reading of the refusal and stipulate to his accuracy yes i will note that it is a referral

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thank you uh have you emailed in all the required documents that is needed and

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required to proceed with this case five days in advance of this hearing?

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Yes, I have. Thank you. Please proceed and share your screen.

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Thank you.

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Can you see my screen? Great. Thank you.

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This property is located at 5610 Lancaster Avenue.

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we did submit our exhibits five days in advance of the hearing we included a copy of the notice

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of referral application of appeal the project information form a redacted copy of the lease

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confirming standing for this property as well as confirmation that the taxes have been paid for

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this property we also did submit copies of the notice that was sent out to the neighbors as well

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the certificate of bulk mailing confirming such mailings. The property in question as I indicated

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is 5610 Lancaster Avenue. It's highlighted here on your screen on the aerial. It runs along North

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56th Street on Lancaster Avenue which runs along the bottom. This property is zoned CMX3 and is

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also subject to the fourth district overlay commercial review area. As you

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As you can see, this property is improved with an existing shopping center and is leased to several other commercial tenants.

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can see this property is improved with an existing shopping center and

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It is also surrounded by other commercial uses as well as residential uses on the other side of North 56th Street as well as 57th Street.

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family dollar currently leases the end cap of the shopping center this is a copy of the leasing plan

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you can see here the two existing buildings family dollar is currently here on the plan west end cap

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of the building. Shown here in front of you are photographs of the existing conditions

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of the property. You can see here is Family Dollar. To the right of the screen is the

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remaining of the shopping center. This photo just shows a view looking down towards Lancaster

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Avenue away from the store. This photograph shows across the street looking at 56th Street.

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This photograph looks up 56th Street away from Lancaster Avenue.

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And then this photograph shows the other side of the existing Family Dollar store.

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A Family Dollar has been leasing this space since 2004. We've submitted in our exhibit packet a copy

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of the Certificate of Occupancy that was received when they initially started occupying the space.

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Since that time, the space adjacent, you can see here in your photograph,

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previously occupied by a child care facility, has become vacant. Family Dollar is looking to

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amend their lease or has amended their lease to expand the existing store into the space adjacent.

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Family Dollar is proposing to open one of their combo stores, as they call it, in this

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location, which would be a Family Dollar as well as a Dollar Tree store.

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This would allow them to expand the merchandise that they offer.

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They would additionally include seasonal items, some party supplies, stationery, houseware,

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kitchen items and as well as some arts and crafts submitted in the exhibit

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packet and shown before you here is a copy of the floor plan this area here is

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the existing space and then this area here would be the space that they would

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be expanding into the expansion will allow for the existing store to be

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refurbished let me just pull up here for you see this down here in the lower right again is the

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existing conditions this above that is the elevation of what the store will look like

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when it's combined they will be refurbishing it they will be painting the exterior cleaning it up

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as well as doing a new interior fit up and upgrading it as well as coming up with a new

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layout. Their hours of operation are 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. And although the existing store does have

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a certificate of occupancy and is permitted under the zoning, the expansion into the new space

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is requiring a separate permit for that additional space to allow the retail sale of consumer goods.

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Under the underlying CMX-3 zoning district, this use is permitted by right.

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However, the fourth district overlay does require special exception approval to allow the retail sale of consumer products.

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The overlay district prohibits uses from operating between the hours of 11 p.m. to 5 a.m.

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As indicated, the hours are 8 a.m. to 9 p.m.

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And as such, the applicant would agree to a proviso that would limit the hours pursuant to the overlay district.

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We don't believe that the proposed use would have a detrimental impact to the neighborhood.

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In fact, to the contrary, we believe that it would be a benefit as it will provide a wider range of merchandise for sale to the community,

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as well as cleaning up an existing underutilized space within the shopping center.

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Furthermore, the proposed use will also be located within an existing commercial space

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and will be an expansion of an existing use.

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And as such, we do not believe that it would create any overcrowding of the land

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It would create any overcrowding of the land or cause undue traffic congestion or impair the supply and light of the air.

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or cause undue traffic congestion.

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We did meet with the RCO, which is the Overbrook West Neighbors Community Association.

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They did have certain concerns regarding the current operations.

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We met with them on two occasions to address those concerns.

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and as a result of those meetings, we did receive a letter of support, which was submitted again to

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the zoning board and in our exhibit packet. Based on the foregoing, we are respectfully requesting

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that this board grant a special exception to allow the additional space to be used for retail sale

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of consumer goods. And with that, I do have my client on the line. And I would like to have him

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be admitted, Sergio Sangelapur. Chair, Sergio Sangelapur has been unmuted and allowed to speak.

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Sir, could you state your name, please, and spell for the court stenographer?

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yes uh sergio chanelport s-e-r-g-i-o the last name is s-c-i-a-n-c-a-l-e p as in peter o-r-e

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we're referring to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

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Yes. Please proceed, Council.

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Thank you. Mr. Shailenpour, were you here this afternoon during the statements that I've just made with regard to the property and the proposed use?

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I was.

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And do you agree with the statements that I made and were they true and accurate?

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They were and I did.

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And had you provided testimony yourself, would you agree to adopt those statements as your own testimony?

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I have no further questions at this time

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and we request that the exhibits be moved into record.

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They were moved in.

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Questions from the board?

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No, Chair.

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Questions or comments from our attorney, Hillary Emerson?

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Not at this time, Mr. Chair.

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Questions or comments from the virtual audience?

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there we have a gregory allen with their hand up they have been muted and allowed to speak

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sir could you state your name please and spell for the court stenographer

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yes sir chair my name is gregory allen g-r-e-g-o-r-y last name is a-l-l-e-n

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you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth sir

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I do. Are you a neighbor? I am the president of the RCO. Okay, please proceed. And a neighbor,

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but not a near neighbor. Okay, that's okay. Okay, so first I want to compliment Carrie and Sergio

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on the time that they took to hear our neighbor's concerns about the quality and other issues that

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were related to store operations. They did that on two occasions, on the second meeting coming

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with another group who were actually the team that would work in the stores. So I want to give

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that compliment. And I agree with everything else that has been said. Our neighbors had

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no questions about the store related to zoning. The only concern I think that hasn't been addressed

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was the trash. There was concern about it being outdoors, and there was a comment that the trash

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might be able to be moved indoors, or that there would be a compactor. Because what happens in

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that area is that people will see a dumpster, they'll bring their trash to the dumpster,

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And then vermin are attracted to that trash and the residential parts of the store are, the residential is really close to the store.

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So a lot of neighbors were concerned about vermin entering their homes from the commercial property.

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thank you very much

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let me see if there's anyone else

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in the virtual audience

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and I'll let counsel respond

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yes sir

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thank you and thank you for taking the time

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to call us is there anyone else

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in the virtual audience

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we have David

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David Friedler

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they have been unmuted and allowed

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to speak

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sir could you state your name

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sir could you state your name and spell it please for the court stenographer

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and spell it please for the court stenographer.

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my name is david friedler thank you chair for allowing me to speak

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could you spell your name please for the court stenographer david d-a-v-i-d friedler f-r-i-e-d

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l-e-r you swear or affirm to tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

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yes i do are you a neighbor i'm not a neighbor i'm one of the owners at the property

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um i just wanted to do your client

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i'm sorry this is your account client counselor i know this is the landlord my client family

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dollar the tenant all right all right thank you proceed sir okay i just wanted to address um what

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the what the gregory was saying regarding the trash i spent um thousands of dollars to have

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the trash it's it's in a special department in the shopping center there has not been any trash

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problems in the past um i would say eight to eight months to a year since i've done that it's

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gated off it's locked every day we make sure that the trash is clean and i don't foresee any issues

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with the trash going forward um everybody has a separate garbage bin we have cameras on the

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location we watch it on a constant basis and there should be no issues with the trash and if

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there ever is we are more than willing and able to to handle it and take care that there should

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be no trash going forward and no trash problems going forward that's that's just what i you know

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that's all i wanted to say thank you thank you so much for taking the time to call so we appreciate

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Is there anyone else in the virtual audience?

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I see no hands at this time, Chair.

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Planning Commission.

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Good afternoon, Chair and members of the board.

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This is Greg Walton for Planning Commission staff.

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We comprehensive plan recommends no change to the commercial mixed use zoning at its location.

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The appellant has shown that the proposed retail sales of consumer goods will have no detrimental impacts beyond what might be expected.

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The City Planning Commission recommends that the Board grant the proposed special exception for retail sales of consumer goods.

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MI 2023-002-937-5610 Lancaster Avenue, I vote yes.

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The 4th District Overlay requires proviso limiting the hours of operation from 5A to 11P.

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Thomas Hollis, my vote is yes with proviso.

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James Snell, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Ishmael Shahi, my vote is yes with proviso.

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Thank you, counsel.

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Thank you. Have a nice afternoon.

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Number 11, MI-2023, 003-954-3753 North 18th Street.

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Alan Nockmson is the attorney.

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There is a letter of opposition from the 13th Board RCO Committee.

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Mr. Nockmson.

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He's coming back in as a panelist now, Chair.

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