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ZBA Hearing - September 15, 2020

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Sep 15, 20204h 33m

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members and we had that officially

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in case the employer wants to know and who opposed it and one who supported it.

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The reason why, as the Planning Commission indicated, the size of this

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building is a lot larger than shit. You can put the objects that the applicant

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indicated in there, but you can put a lot of other things in there too of nature.

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you can put a lot of other things in there too of nature and that's why the neighbors

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And that's why the neighbor uses

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who attended that meeting were definitely opposed to doing this now i know other people have sheds

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in the area and the person next door's shed is larger well why wouldn't he support something

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where uh he is doing something that's not legal either so the bottom line is we want to raise

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objection to it based on what the neighbors fear. Also, too, there are other objections. First of all,

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the property is three and a half feet beside the property line when you require 10 feet,

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so that's not legal right there. And also the neighbors are concerned that this is going to be

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used for other purposes other than storage with the size. This is three times bigger than a shed,

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normal shed so you can store a lot more things in there than that or else you

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can move those things somewhere else and use it for some other purpose whether

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it be a business which you're hearing as another location or whatever else you

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want to do now business is illegal we realize that but as the learner said

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himself that this is way back of this property it's very large no one can see

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it, so you could be doing anything in that particular shed. So this is the

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objection that the neighbors raised. This shed was going to be used for other

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purposes than what they indicate there. And also, too, since one neighbor has

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indicated to us that there is an electrical line running through the shed,

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now it may not have electricity now, as Irina stated, that doesn't mean in the

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future electricity can't be posted in there. So basically we're supporting the

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neighbors to oppose this particular change, as the Planning Commission has also done.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for your testimony, sir.

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Is it safe to say, or correct me if I'm wrong, is it the size of the shed or is it the concern

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about what the use may be going forward?

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It's the concern.

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It's the fact of how it could be used in the future.

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I think that's the major objection, because the size of it is such a large size that the neighbors are concerned that it's going to be converted into something other than shed.

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That's from my understanding of what the neighbors have told us.

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I think I get that. I think the board gets that as well.

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I'm just curious, Sharon, if we were to approve this with a proviso, is there a proviso that we could come up with that would guarantee that it could only be used for storage of materials or whatever and never to be used for anything?

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No one living in there, no living unit, no whatever.

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You could add proviso saying no electricity and no use other than storage.

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yeah i think that would do it so mr chair we actually offer to do a proviso for no business

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purposes in terms of electricity and i haven't really talked to my client about this i think

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she would just want electricity just in case like you know potentially i don't know why turn a light

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on you don't want to go if it's dark at night you want to go in there you need light i don't have

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that much of concern about the electricity it's just what gets what what the electricity would

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be used for other than lighting on some receptacles in there if they're going to you know do any work

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in here they have tools yeah i so i and i may correct me if i'm wrong if we wanted to do

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anything but for storage that would that would generate another violation like we would have

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so the the purpose was never to like use this for any type of commercial use i'm not suggesting that

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that was the reason. I'm just trying to find a place where the community can be, you know,

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feel comfortable that this is not going to turn into an extension of a business or some other

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use than storage. Well, how about accessory storage for household living? Something to

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that effect, Mr. Chair. Whatever is the tightest we can make it, it would be my opinion. And that's

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the board has to vote so I'm just throwing that out there. What is the square footage?

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The square footage, Madam Vice Chair, it is according to refusal 355 square feet.

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And Mr. Nockamson is correct that any business use or extension of the residence into that would

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would generate and that would be a violation in any case um so adding the language that

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um so adding the language that he suggested it would give the community some assurance

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he suggested it would give the community some assurance

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and again i want to make it as tight as possible in the event i'm not saying suggesting that his

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client is going to do this but somebody else can come along they sell the house someone else has

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that shed and they may decide to use it as an office or something of that nature because i look

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at 1009

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Twist Road, that seems to be

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a very large

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shed as well.

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Again, I would ask that

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Sharon, you give us the

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most restrictive language you could give us.

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I think the language that

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Mr. Nockamson suggested was good.

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Storage accessory to household use

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only.

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All right. Anyone else

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wish to testify in this case, please

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raise your hand.

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i have no one chair all right um alan i'm going to ask you to give me that language again

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uh storage for a storage accessory to household use only

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okay uh calendar number three nine five eight six nine six nine five six six wally avenue

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my vote is yes with the proviso storage for household accessory uses only a storage

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accessory to household use only storage be limited to a storage accessory

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storage accessory limited to household use

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to house storage storage accessory to household use only storage to be accessible to household

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use only that's the proviso my vote is yes with that proviso yes with proviso yes for proviso

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yes for proviso yes with proviso

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thank you very much

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you're welcome

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have a great day

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you too

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I believe that completes

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the 3.30 list is there any

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unfinished business

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no nothing for today but I will

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send out an invitation for tomorrow

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morning there are a lot of

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follow up things that you will be doing

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tomorrow so I'll send you

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a memo on that and then we can talk

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about them in the morning

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executive session nine o'clock tomorrow morning yes all right well tanya yes that's true sir

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we're good yes okay good night everyone stay safe good night all good night everyone good

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night good night sheree thank you for everything okay you too it's tanya it's tanya

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