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ZBA Hearing - August 17, 2022

Philadelphia Zoning Board of Adjustment (ZBA)Aug 17, 20223h 52m

yes i'm here i just i'm meeting myself i'm sorry are you prepared to go forward we tried to chat

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with you to assist yes i did get an email from ms dandy are you prepared to go forward oh yes

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okay sounds good chair you can go ahead and do what you do thank you so much kindly chair

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you're miss smith you've already been sworn yeah um could you answer if you could carol you already

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asked your questions too right yes i think i did miss smith could you share your screen

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yes so that's when we were having trouble i was trying to share my screen um but uh uh

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you know what okay let me see if i can so let so i'm sharing my screen so you see the the first

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page of the floor plan? No.

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Or the site plan? No, we don't see

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just see your name.

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I don't get, I don't understand.

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Okay, let me try

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this way. Let me see if I can do this.

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Ms. Smith,

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what type of computer do you have or

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tablet or device? Right,

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I'm on a PC. Regular

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computer, not an Apple?

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Right, just a regular. Okay,

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so now you brought up

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and not

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your documents. Okay, now we

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got it your plan okay so this is um of course the property on the on the the block on popular street

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you see the address 4136 right go ahead and then so the next plane it just shows the interior of

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the home. So on the first, so the first unit, I mean, this is how the.

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So, um, on the first, so the first unit, I mean, this is how the person that did the plans put it together. So on the first floor, um, or this is the basement. So it's a storage closet. This is the living area steps in storage.

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So then on the first floor, I'm sorry, let me try to scroll down. It shows, so here's the front of the house. Of course, you walk up to the porch. This is the front door. Then it shows the door going into the unit, the first unit.

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And it shows a living area, kitchen, bedroom, bath, and this is the rear, the exit.

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And then I'm going to go to the next part of the floor plan.

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So this is the second and third floor.

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So here's, of course, the steps.

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This is the living area, kitchen, laundry, door, bathroom.

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uh utility closet this is a office slash bedroom and then the third floor

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i'm sorry a little nervous rest your floor it's the uh the steps of course

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um the bedroom just another bedroom closet bathroom and this is just the the out this is

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the roof um so i'm currently living in my brother and i we live in the property this is how the

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property was set up when we moved into it i can show you some other pictures of the inside of the

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house if you would like to see pictures please okay let me show you the pictures all right just

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bear with me let me bring them up i'm sorry i appreciate your patience uh one second all right

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let me try this again. All right. So this is just the folder where I have the pictures.

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So are you, so tell me you can see the folder, right? No, no, no. Okay. Let me try this again.

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Let me figure this out here. So would you like to, to unshare? Okay. And try and go back up the

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screen and then pull up your documents or pictures click on them and then share all right so let me

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so i unshared so i'm going back to share and here's my folder

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okay all right so here's my folder you see the folder with all the

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no right that's on the screen no no okay hold on let me get it let me let me get it together

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uh choose what to share all right so you see um all right so do you have your folder open

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and if it's actually you choose what to share you're going to share the documents that you

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have open if it's the pictures you're going to click on that actual window okay hold on let me

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do this okay right you see that right windows

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okay sure got you got you okay okay yeah you see okay got it got it I see all

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right all right all right so we see your whole file this is the whole folder

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where I have all right so here's the first picture this is just the door this

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this is the front door of the property see the address 4136 no so miss smith we don't see that

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oh no we only see your whole folder with the pictures in them okay so that's right

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all right let me see here

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all right so

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all right let me try let me unshare and then go back

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this is calling from it do you have two monitors or do you have one monitor

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you're talking to me i'm sorry sorry yes this is calling from it i was just wondering how

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many computer monitors you have do you have two i'm on a laptop oh okay

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all right you know what i think i have to do it this way so let me stop sharing

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and then go back to share

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all right mrs smith let's listen to me a minute yes we saw the layout of what you have currently

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let me ask you a couple questions when did you buy the property uh the end of 2000

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when did you buy the property uh the end of 2017 was the property like that when you bought it

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yes it was laid out like that yes you bought it as a duplex

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yes okay so let me ask you this too the 4100 baca poplar street

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how many other multi-family dwellings are along there if you know

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i think i think there's there's a few

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um because i see the mailboxes right on the addresses right um so there are there are there

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are multiple because i i see the you know i see the addresses the one two a b in the multiple

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mailboxes and you're saying when you bought this property in 2017 it was laid out as a duplex

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yes it doesn't have separate utilities no there's one utility for the whole building

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yes okay one heating system one electric system no no so let me go back so it's two heating

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system right so it's two two um it's two air can you know two um it's two right so it's it's heat

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it's it's air and heating for the basement in the first floor that's one then it's another one for

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the second and third floor that's the was it like that when you bought it yes the electric box for

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the second and third floor is on the third floor in the in the electric for the basement in the

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first for that lecture that panel is in the basement okay all right so so we've seen the

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drawings we know the way the place is laid out and your testimony is you bought this in 2017

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it was laid out as a duplex the places has separate utilities right so is there questions

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from the board relative to this yeah i have one question is there a bedroom in the basement

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based on the first

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picture of the stone.

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I didn't see it. It said living space.

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It said living space.

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It's finished.

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It's not being used as a

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bedroom.

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It's finished, like a

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living space, like sitting

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there.

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And the only reason

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I'm asking that is because on the next

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floor up, there was another living room.

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So I just wanted to.

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It was just a finished basement.

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I don't know.

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all right but what she's saying is you don't use that as a place to sleep exactly okay all right

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all right other questions from the board no mr chairman i'm good now mr chair thomas

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chair he's having technical difficulties all right fine questions or comments from the virtual

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audience. I see no virtual other hands, Mr. Chair. Planning Commission. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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David Fecto, City Planning Commission. Mr. Chairman and members of the board, the comprehensive plan

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recommends a change from residential single family to residential multifamily in this location

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under the proposed zoning. This proposal would be allowed without a use variance. So the City

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Planning Commission recommends that the board grant the proposed variance for two dwelling units.

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Thank you. MI 2022-003-349-4136 Poplar Street, I vote yes.

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Carol Tenere, my vote is yes.

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Ishmael Shahi, my vote is yes.

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Okay, Mrs. Smith, you're fine.

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All right, thank you, everyone.

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You have the votes, thank you.

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Thank you very much. Thank you for your time and your patience. Thank you. Okay.

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So let's take a five minute break and then we're going to come back and we'll finish up right away.

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Okay.

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So just take five minutes.

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Could we take 10?

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I'm going to try to work at getting Thomas back.

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Okay.

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That's fine.

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Mr.

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Chair, since that concludes the 2 p.m.

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list, can we just make sure there's nobody else here?

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Is there anyone in the audience, in the virtual audience, whose case has not been called from the 2 p.m.

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list?

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Okay.

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I see no answer.

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Okay, thank you.

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Everybody see you in 10 minutes.

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Okay.

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Right.

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We should have a quick afternoon.

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Hi, Pauline, this is Tanya.

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Can you promote Ishmael Shaheed back to our panelists, please?

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Can you promote Ishmael Shaheed back to a panelist, please?

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Thanks, Tanya. I thought y'all cut me out of here.

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Thank you. Sorry, I kicked you out.

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Mr. Perez, please reach out to our office.

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There will be no more discussion of this case.

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If you need help, please contact Tanya Sunkit.

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Thank you.

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Tani, do you need help with Mr. Holliman at all?

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No, we should be okay.

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But if I need you, I'll reach out.

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Thanks, Pauline.

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That's good.

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Thank you.

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You

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Hi, Chair.

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Can you call me, Tanya?

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Thank you.

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You

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, Chair, this is Tanya.

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We are ready to start when you are.

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we are down one member but we do have a quorum so you can

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carolyn is i have them but i sure am i see carol's on i mean i'm here mr okay great great

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okay we'll start start uh we're ready yeah so it's me you and is me you is right me you and

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That is Tom's computer one.

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Okay.

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We are all set in 19, sir.

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We are recording, Chair, and you can go forward as you wish.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Bill Bergman, and I will be chairing this afternoon's 3.30 scheduled meetings.

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With me is Carol Cenary, our vice chair.

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Present, Mr. Chairman.

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Ishmael Shahid, our board secretary.

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Present, Mr. Truman.

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Also, here is our Executive Director, Tanya Sunkit, and our Board Attorney, Hillary Emerson.

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Before we begin, here's our virtual format.

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Be advised the proceedings are being recorded.

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By participating, you acknowledge your agreement to be recorded.

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The video will be available by contacting tanyasunkit at phil.gov.

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For the benefit of our court stenographer, we ask attorneys and witnesses to identify themselves before testifying.

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if you are participating by phone if you wish to testify press star nine to raise your hand

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and star six to unmute to enter an appearance statement call 267-270-5548 leave your email

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address and the address of the property in question and lastly the question answer

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button on the on the on the screen is not for comments or testimony any comments should be

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directed to Tanya Sumkin. I have a few announcements. Number one, effective July 18, 2022, if the cases

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continue, attorney or applicant moving party, the attorney or applicant has 90 days from the date

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the cases continue to either request a new hearing date, ask for an extension of moving party status,

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or withdraw the case. If ZBA staff is not contacted by the end of the 90-day period,

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the case will be automatically listed for a new hearing. Please note, extensions for moving party

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